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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 10, 2006, 10:22:58 AM8/10/06
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::: veralein ::: wrote:
> Love - what is Love?

The Holy Spirit guides me to write the following...

There are two kinds:

(1) Love from others.

(2) Love from GOD.

The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
become thirsty again.

The latter is our LORD's living water that after drinking, one will
never thirst again.

"...whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the
water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to
eternal life." -- LORD Jesus Christ (John 4:14)

Love of either kind holds everything in the universe together and feeds
our souls keeping our souls from thirsting and dying.

However, GOD's love is the living water that our LORD told the
Samaritan woman about by Jacob's well (John 4:10).

This was what the Samaritan woman needed because the love she received
from her many male partners left her thirsty.

LORD Jesus Christ is the Source of this living water. HE is the Fount
of living water.

Christ Jesus as the Son of GOD is the Heart of GOD.

Just as our hearts are our source of love for others, Christ Jesus is
GOD's source of love for us.

When we give GOD our love, we are giving HIM our firstfruits from our
hearts.

Our sinful nature would have us be selfish and not give our love to GOD
and others but to hoard it for our souls.

Indeed, before being reborn of water (living water) and the Holy
Spirit, before drinking our LORD's living water, the amount of love in
our hearts was finite.

We would have run out ! ! !

> Maybe you think that this is a silly question, but I think that it is
> not really easy to answer...

WIthout the Holy Spirit, your question would have been unanswerable.

> Is love an emotion?

No.

> A feeling of well-being?

No.

> Or is it more?

It is something else. See above.

> What is it for different people?

No.

> Do they all agree on what it is?

Most don't realize what love is.

Those of this world define love is its shortsighted terms ...

"Love is a many-splendored thing."

> What is God's love?

See above.

It is Christ Jesus' living water.

> What does it mean for us and our lives?

See above.

It is GOD's gift of eternal life.

> "I love you" - the term can get an inflationary touch if used all the
> time and like hollow shell.

Yes, if one is without GOD's love.

> For what reasons do people love others?

By choice through the free will that GOD has generously given each of
us to obey HIM.

> For what reasons would they love God?

By choice through the free will that GOD has generously given each of
us to obey HIM.

May our LORD's peace be with you, dear sister Vera.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

Pastor Kutchie

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Aug 10, 2006, 1:15:24 PM8/10/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > Love - what is Love?
>
> The Holy Spirit guides me to write the following...
>
> There are two kinds:
>
> (1) Love from others.
>
> (2) Love from GOD.
>
> The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
> become thirsty again.
>

You are one sick puppy, Chung.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 10, 2006, 1:23:16 PM8/10/06
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In my continued walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me completely well.

May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.

Pastor Kutchie

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Aug 10, 2006, 1:50:22 PM8/10/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > > > Love - what is Love?
> > >
> > > The Holy Spirit guides me to write the following...
> > >
> > > There are two kinds:
> > >
> > > (1) Love from others.
> > >
> > > (2) Love from GOD.
> > >
> > > The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
> > > become thirsty again.
> >
> > You are one sick puppy, Chung.
>
> In my continued walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me completely well.
>

Only one as sick and twisted as you could think so.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 10, 2006, 7:12:19 PM8/10/06
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Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Pastor Kutchie

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Aug 10, 2006, 11:19:44 PM8/10/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > > > > > Love - what is Love?
> > > > >
> > > > > The Holy Spirit guides me to write the following...
> > > > >
> > > > > There are two kinds:
> > > > >
> > > > > (1) Love from others.
> > > > >
> > > > > (2) Love from GOD.
> > > > >
> > > > > The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
> > > > > become thirsty again.
> > > >
> > > > You are one sick puppy, Chung.
> > >
> > > In my continued walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me completely well.
> >
> > Only one as sick and twisted as you could think so.
>
> Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
>

A firm grasp on reality obviates the need for belief.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 11, 2006, 12:55:30 AM8/11/06
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Without beliefs there is no grasp of reality.

"There are many participating in these usenet newgroups whose hearts
are
black with hate and nearly completely devoid of love. In their hatred,

they latch themselves onto us, the brethren of Christ, in a desperate
attempt to drain us of the love that we have in our hearts.

This is why many of us feel the need to take a break from our
interactions with you and your ilk in order for our supply of love to
regenerate. The closer our walk with Christ Jesus, the quicker our
hearts refill with HIS love. "

Pastor Kutchie

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Aug 11, 2006, 3:37:52 AM8/11/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > > > > > > > Love - what is Love?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Holy Spirit guides me to write the following...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There are two kinds:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (1) Love from others.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (2) Love from GOD.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
> > > > > > > become thirsty again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are one sick puppy, Chung.
> > > > >
> > > > > In my continued walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me completely well.
> > > >
> > > > Only one as sick and twisted as you could think so.
> > >
> > > Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> >
> > A firm grasp on reality obviates the need for belief.
>
> Without beliefs there is no grasp of reality.
>

If you believe that, you'll believe shite is chocolate.

> "There are many participating in these usenet newgroups whose hearts
> are
> black with hate and nearly completely devoid of love. In their hatred,
>

You especially.

> they latch themselves onto us, the brethren of Christ, in a desperate
> attempt to drain us of the love that we have in our hearts.
>

You have no real love for real people, only emptiness and needfulness.
Your confession to such is in this thread.


> This is why many of us feel the need to take a break from our
> interactions with you and your ilk in order for our supply of love to
> regenerate. The closer our walk with Christ Jesus, the quicker our
> hearts refill with HIS love. "
>

That is up to you.

> May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.
>

Nothing wrong with any of my cardiovascular system, thanks, and my mind
is far healthier than yours.

> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>

You will never understand how malevolent you are being.

> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA

I believe you......

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 11, 2006, 6:35:38 AM8/11/06
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Atheist neighbor wrote:
> Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Love - what is Love?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Holy Spirit guides me to write the following...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There are two kinds:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (1) Love from others.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (2) Love from GOD.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
> > > > > > > > become thirsty again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are one sick puppy, Chung.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In my continued walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me completely well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Only one as sick and twisted as you could think so.
> > > >
> > > > Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> > >
> > > A firm grasp on reality obviates the need for belief.
> >
> > Without beliefs there is no grasp of reality.
>
> <hiss sputter hiss hiss about excrement being chocolate>

>
> > "There are many participating in these usenet newgroups whose hearts
> > are
> > black with hate and nearly completely devoid of love. In their hatred,
>
> You especially.

No. Wouldn't be able to pray for you if this were the case.

> > they latch themselves onto us, the brethren of Christ, in a desperate
> > attempt to drain us of the love that we have in our hearts.
>
> You have no real love for real people, only emptiness and needfulness.

Wouldn't be still standing here if this were the case.

> Your confession to such is in this thread.

Hardly.

> > This is why many of us feel the need to take a break from our
> > interactions with you and your ilk in order for our supply of love to
> > regenerate. The closer our walk with Christ Jesus, the quicker our
> > hearts refill with HIS love. "
>
> That is up to you.

Yes. The closer walk and no break has been up to me :-)

> > May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.
>
> Nothing wrong with any of my cardiovascular system, thanks, and my mind
> is far healthier than yours.

Not to the discerning.

> > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>
> You will never understand how malevolent you are being.

The light of the truth burns the creatures of darkness who are drawn to
it.

This light bears no malice to anyone.

> > Andrew B. Chung
> > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
>
> I believe you......

You would be wiser to believe in LORD Jesus Christ.

May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

Pastor Kutchie

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Aug 11, 2006, 1:04:36 PM8/11/06
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > Atheist neighbor wrote:
> > > > > > > > Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> > > > > > > > > ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Love - what is Love?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The Holy Spirit guides me to write the following...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > There are two kinds:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (1) Love from others.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (2) Love from GOD.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
> > > > > > > > > become thirsty again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are one sick puppy, Chung.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In my continued walk with Christ Jesus, HE keeps me completely well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Only one as sick and twisted as you could think so.
> > > > >
> > > > > Without the LORD, your beliefs are meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
> > > >
> > > > A firm grasp on reality obviates the need for belief.
> > >
> > > Without beliefs there is no grasp of reality.
> >
> > <hiss sputter hiss hiss about excrement being chocolate>
> >

Fair comment about credulity, in fact.

> > > "There are many participating in these usenet newgroups whose hearts
> > > are
> > > black with hate and nearly completely devoid of love. In their hatred,
> >
> > You especially.
>
> No. Wouldn't be able to pray for you if this were the case.
>

Unsolicited prayer is contempt.

> > > they latch themselves onto us, the brethren of Christ, in a desperate
> > > attempt to drain us of the love that we have in our hearts.
> >
> > You have no real love for real people, only emptiness and needfulness.
>
> Wouldn't be still standing here if this were the case.
>
> > Your confession to such is in this thread.
>
> Hardly.
>

QUOTE:

> > > > > > > > > (1) Love from others.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (2) Love from GOD.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
> > > > > > > > > become thirsty again.
> > > > > > > >

UNQUOTE

> > > This is why many of us feel the need to take a break from our

Promises are lies.

> > > interactions with you and your ilk in order for our supply of love to
> > > regenerate. The closer our walk with Christ Jesus, the quicker our
> > > hearts refill with HIS love. "
> >
> > That is up to you.
>
> Yes. The closer walk and no break has been up to me :-)
>

Who would Jesus treat with contempt?

> > > May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.
> >
> > Nothing wrong with any of my cardiovascular system, thanks, and my mind
> > is far healthier than yours.
>
> Not to the discerning.
>

HTFWYK?

> > > Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
> >
> > You will never understand how malevolent you are being.
>
> The light of the truth burns the creatures of darkness who are drawn to
> it.
>
> This light bears no malice to anyone.
>

Thank you for admitting that your beliefs are untrue, and your prayers
insincere.

> > > Andrew B. Chung
> > > Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
> >
> > I believe you......
>
> You would be wiser to believe in LORD Jesus Christ.
>

I did not use the word 'in'. This gives the sentence a different
meaning, the stops indicate that the sentence is incomplete, the rest
of it is clear to the genuinely discerning (not you).

> May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.
>
> Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
>

Unsolicited prayer is contempt.

> Andrew B. Chung
> Cardiologist,

Whatever.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 11, 2006, 2:05:23 PM8/11/06
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Four letter words about bodily functions especially when misspelled do
little for your credibility.

May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

Pastor Kutchie

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Aug 11, 2006, 2:46:24 PM8/11/06
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CREDULITY, fuckwit. Look it up.

Please forgive my over-estimation of your English comprehension.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 11, 2006, 6:14:06 PM8/11/06
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Name-calling continues to serve only to draw attention to your lost
state.

Barry OGrady

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Aug 11, 2006, 7:39:59 PM8/11/06
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Christianity exists to give mentally ill people the ability to express themselves.

Barry
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Pastor Kutchie

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Aug 11, 2006, 8:03:23 PM8/11/06
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Fuckwit is a description, not name-calling. Look it up in the
dictionary.

Resorting to homespun platitudes you made up does not mark you out as
intellectually superior to anyone, just desperate, isolated and weird.

You lack certain basic human attributes that would allow you to
identify and solve your problems. Who, then, is 'lost'?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 11, 2006, 8:06:26 PM8/11/06
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Not for those with discerning hearts.

May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Pastor Kutchie

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Barry OGrady wrote:
> On 10 Aug 2006 10:15:24 -0700, "Pastor Kutchie" <use...@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> >Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> >> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> >> > Love - what is Love?
> >>
> >> The Holy Spirit guides me to write the following...
> >>
> >> There are two kinds:
> >>
> >> (1) Love from others.
> >>
> >> (2) Love from GOD.
> >>
> >> The former is like regular water that after drinking, one will still
> >> become thirsty again.
> >>
> >
> >You are one sick puppy, Chung.
>
> Christianity exists to give mentally ill people the ability to express themselves.
>

You certainly have a point. When I went to visit a manic-depressive
friend of mine in hospital, there was a fellow patient there who
insisted, and I quote, "The only reason I am in here is because I was
telling people about God". Given that in order to be sectioned, a
patient must be regarded as a danger to themselves or others, one can
easily imagine how he was going about it!

Pastor Kutchie

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Yes it is for those with a copy of the OED.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Aug 12, 2006, 1:45:56 PM8/12/06
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Even so.

There are many words listed in the OED that can be used for
name-calling.

It is the context/use of the word and not the word itself that
determines whether it is name-calling.

Source: http://www.m-w.com

May GOD continue to heal your heart, dear neighbor.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Alacrity wrote:
> ::: veralein ::: wrote:
> > Love - what is Love?
> >
> > Maybe you think that this is a silly question, but I think that it is
> > not really easy to answer...
> >
> > Is love an emotion? A feeling of well-being?
> >
> > Or is it more?
> >
> > What is it for different people? Do they all agree on what it is?

> >
> > What is God's love?
> >
> > What does it mean for us and our lives?
> >
> > "I love you" - the term can get an inflationary touch if used all the
> > time and like hollow shell.
> >
> > For what reasons do people love others?
> >
> > For what reasons would they love God?
> >
> >
> > ::: vera :::
> >
> > ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><>
> > John 3:16-17 WEB For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and
> > only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have
> > eternal life. For God didn't send his Son into the world to judge the
> > world, but that the world should be saved through him.
> > <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <>< <><
> > --
> > ___________________________________________________
> > ::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de :::::::
> > ::::::: http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm :::::::
> > ::::::: http://www.e-sword.net :::::::
> > ::::::: http://alpha.org/default.asp :::::::
>
> I have given years of consideration to that question. I've read volumes
> of literature and, in all my research, found nothing that satifies that
> question more than the following:
>
> "The fruit of the tree of life is the love of god, spread abroad in the
> hearts of the children of men"
>
> So love is the fruit of the tree of life and it is of divine origin:)

That would be the love from GOD and not the love from others, who are
of this world.

> The book I read this in is "the book of mormon" and although I am not a
> mormon, I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day
> Saints. I'm also a member of all churches on earth, as I love all the
> good people there in and grudge them not their diverse expressions of
> the ineffable.

We are to love even those who hate us just as Christ Jesus loves those
who hate HIM so much HE prayed from them while suffering and dying
horribly on the cross. This is possible only when we have HIS love
(HIS living water) in our hearts so that we are no longer wanting for
love.

> All who have tasted this fruit need not ask what it is; crave no
> comprehension of the incomprensible: They just share it.
>
> "Do you love me, Peter?"
>
> "yes lord!"
>
> "Then feed my sheep."

"Man does not live on bread alone but on every word that comes out of
the mouth of GOD." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 4:4).

May our LORD's peace be with you, dear brother Alacrity.

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