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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 1, 2007, 1:34:58 PM4/1/07
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brother gaedhealic wrote:

>
> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15

Let us pray for them.

Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

Andrew <><
--
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May HIS immortal brethren pray for our dying mortal friends and
neighbors:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Especially dear Bob(this one) Pastorio:
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Yang, AthD (h.c)

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Apr 1, 2007, 1:52:21 PM4/1/07
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On 1 Apr 2007 10:34:58 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

>brother gaedhealic wrote:
>
>>
>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>
>Let us pray for them.
>
>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,


BWAHAHAHAHA

How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
April Fool's Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday


--
Yang
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The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3245 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

Having Bush fuck up my country: Worthless


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duke

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Apr 1, 2007, 2:13:43 PM4/1/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:52:21 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

>>Let us pray for them.
>>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

>BWAHAHAHAHA

>How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
>April Fool's Day.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday

We keep trying to help the atheists wannabe's.

duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Rev. Karl E. Taylor

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Apr 1, 2007, 2:14:24 PM4/1/07
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> brother gaedhealic wrote:
>
>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>
> Let us pray for them.
>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>
Talking to the voices in your head again Chunks?

Not surprising of course, the mentally deluded can't help themselves.
In your case Chunks, the voices try to tell you that mythical beings are
real.

Why don't you take Big Daddy, Junior and the hole filled spook, and
shove them up your ass.

Moron. No wonder they don't allow you into any hospitals.

--
There are none more ignorant and useless,
than they that seek answers on their knees,
with their eyes closed.
____________________________________________________________________
Rev. Karl E. Taylor http://www.secularity.com/ktayloraz

A.A #1143 http://azhotops.blogspot.com/

Apostle of Dr. Lao EAC: Virgin Conversion Unit Director
____________________________________________________________________

Sanity's Little Helper

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Apr 1, 2007, 2:23:26 PM4/1/07
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD tripped gaily down the garden path, and yelled:

> brother gaedhealic wrote:
>
>>
>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15

That's right. April 1st, All Fools' day, the day we atheists celebrate tha
fact that even the Holy Bible admits that even a fool knows in his heart
that there is no God.

>
> Let us pray for them.
>

Each time a bad Christian parades their hatred and bile, Yahweh kills a
kitten.

> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>
> Andrew <><

l
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The above gesture is freeware.

--

David Silverman AA#2208
Earthquack: A sort of cyberManson

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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Apr 1, 2007, 2:28:56 PM4/1/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 13:13:43 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:52:21 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
>
>>>Let us pray for them.
>>>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>
>>BWAHAHAHAHA
>
>>How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
>>April Fool's Day.
>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday
>
>We keep trying to help the atheists wannabe's.


Ah, the Christian fools lighting the way

Doc Smartass

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Apr 1, 2007, 4:00:27 PM4/1/07
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
news:k7sv031e525q4lcal...@4ax.com:

> On 1 Apr 2007 10:34:58 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>
>>brother gaedhealic wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth
unto
>>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>>
>>Let us pray for them.
>>
>>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>
>
> BWAHAHAHAHA
>
> How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
> April Fool's Day.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday

Palm Sunday?!

I forgot to jerk off!

--
Doc Smartass, back in a few

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 1, 2007, 4:32:59 PM4/1/07
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
news:1175448898.8...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> brother gaedhealic wrote:
>
>>
>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15

If you're so sure "god" and jesus" exist, why don't you just produce them so
they can prove their existence and powers?

If you can't, then it means it's all a bogus myth.


> Let us pray for them.

Pray for yourself- you're the one who is so weak he needs a fantasy crutch.

You're the one ranting on the internet, with no life or career.

Like all supernaturalists, you're pathetic and weak.


Kurt Gavin

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Apr 1, 2007, 4:33:05 PM4/1/07
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:52:21 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"

Here's "dupe" should be able to relate to:

--Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers
[misspellings, his].

I talk to my only friend Jesus our "LORD"! I know "JESUS" understands my
terrible desires and ect. I have tords little boys! And the main reason I
murdered them little "BOYS", is because our society is so "AGAINST" the fact
of "CHILDREN-DOING-SEX" together or with anybody! I believe children should
be "ABLE" to do sex! And I can "ARGUE" that all the way to the U.S. Supreme
Court! "SEX" is a great "GIFT" that Jesus gave us all!!!!


Condemned and Stricken Flying Rat

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:05:20 PM4/1/07
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In article <%FUPh.17294$PL....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
bugg...@s.com says...

Do you think our esteemed colleagues in the military, both serving and
retired, should be introduced to the fake Christian and unemployed
'cardiologist' Andrew Ben-Hua Chung?

After all, he has gone on record many times in his usenet preaching as
saying he admires and worships Fred Phelps and the Westboro crew. The
same Phelps that pickets the funerals of soldiers killed in combat in
Iraq.

The same Phelps who has pickets holding up signs stating "God hates
America" and "Thank God for IEDs" when a fallen comrade is being buried
after giving his or her life in service.

Chung runs away hissing and howling if you challenge him. But he can't
get away from this. Google is totally unbiased and his worshipping of
the Phelps mob is archived for all to see

FR

Parsifal

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:08:08 PM4/1/07
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On 1 Apr., 20:13, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 10:52:21 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
>
> <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
> >>Let us pray for them.
> >>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
> >BWAHAHAHAHA
> >How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
> >April Fool's Day.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday
>
> We keep trying to help the atheists wannabe's.

Why "wannabe's"? Shouldn't it be "wannabes"?
Actually, you're the wannabe: you'd like to prove the existence of
your god but you can't... That makes you a christian wannabe...

>
> duke, American-American

wtf does that mean "american-american"?

> *****
"Duke is the most perfect form of stupidity."


> *****


Parsifal

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:10:40 PM4/1/07
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On 1 Apr., 19:34, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com>
wrote:

> brother gaedhealic wrote:
>
> > The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
> > counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>
> Let us pray for them.

Fuck off, moron. We don't need your prayer. Why don't you pray your
god to get a brain instead?

>
> Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

Is this an example of your "christian love"?
How hypocrite of you, Chung...
But, hey, why should I be surprised by this: you support death
penalty...

John Baker

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:11:05 PM4/1/07
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The day isn't over yet. <G>


duke

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:12:07 PM4/1/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:33:05 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:

>Here's "dupe" should be able to relate to:

>--Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers
>[misspellings, his].

>I talk to my only friend Jesus our "LORD"! I know "JESUS" understands my
>terrible desires and ect.

Jesus knows he belongs behind bars, and he just said the he knows that Jesus
knows.

duke

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:14:10 PM4/1/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:28:56 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

>>>How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
>>>April Fool's Day.
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday

>>We keep trying to help the atheists wannabe's.
>Ah, the Christian fools lighting the way

Palm Sunday came well before the atheist fool's day. I think it's a message to
you atheist wannabe's it's time to clean up your acts. The time draws near.

duke

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:16:28 PM4/1/07
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On 1 Apr 2007 14:08:08 -0700, "Parsifal" <jeanpasc...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> We keep trying to help the atheists wannabe's.

>Why "wannabe's"? Shouldn't it be "wannabes"?

No, I forgot to add the "desire for eternal death".

>Actually, you're the wannabe: you'd like to prove the existence of
>your god but you can't... That makes you a christian wannabe...

I can't prove God's existence, but I do believe. It's only logical and all
evidence demands his existence.

duke

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:17:59 PM4/1/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:00:27 GMT, Doc Smartass <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com>
wrote:

>"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in

call yang for help.

mariposas rand mair fheal greykitten tomys des anges

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Apr 1, 2007, 5:47:57 PM4/1/07
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In article <MPG.207a2eeab...@news.readfreenews.net>,

Condemned and Stricken Flying Rat <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> In article <%FUPh.17294$PL....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
> bugg...@s.com says...
> >
> > "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> > news:1175448898.8...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > > brother gaedhealic wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
> > >> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
> >
> > If you're so sure "god" and jesus" exist, why don't you just produce them
> > so
> > they can prove their existence and powers?
> >
> > If you can't, then it means it's all a bogus myth.

so what youre saying is in any trial the prosecution cannot produce a witness
then the charges are a bogus myth
even when pieces of the witness are found later in bits and pieces

einstein made claims about gravity bending light
yet he could produce no evidence of that
so again i guess the general theory of relativity is a bogus myth

> > > Let us pray for them.
> >
> > Pray for yourself- you're the one who is so weak he needs a fantasy crutch.
> >
> > You're the one ranting on the internet, with no life or career.
> >
> > Like all supernaturalists, you're pathetic and weak.

im a macho macho man

> Do you think our esteemed colleagues in the military, both serving and

youre changing the subject
which given bugg...@s.com startling display of stupidity and machoism
is not surprising

meow arf meow - they are performing horrible experiments in space
major grubert is watching you - beware the bakalite
impeach the bastard - the airtight garage has you neo

Doc Smartass

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Apr 1, 2007, 6:05:06 PM4/1/07
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John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote in
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Got till local midnight--already too late for people in Egypt.

--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939

AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS. Why?
--They consider themselves shepherds.
--They consider the rest of us sheep.
--Shepherds fuck sheep.
--Therefore AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS.

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 1, 2007, 6:07:12 PM4/1/07
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:33:05 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>
>>Here's "dupe" should be able to relate to:
>
>>--Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers
>>[misspellings, his].
>
>>I talk to my only friend Jesus our "LORD"! I know "JESUS" understands my
>>terrible desires and ect.
>
> Jesus knows he belongs behind bars, and he just said the he knows that
> Jesus
> knows.

The Catholic church has a history of protecting its pedophile priests, and
Freddy knew "jesus" loved and understood him.

--Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers
[misspellings, his].

I talk to my only friend Jesus our "LORD"! I know "JESUS" understands my

terrible desires and ect. I have tords little boys! And the main reason I
murdered them little "BOYS", is because our society is so "AGAINST" the fact
of "CHILDREN-DOING-SEX" together or with anybody! I believe children should
be "ABLE" to do sex! And I can "ARGUE" that all the way to the U.S. Supreme
Court! "SEX" is a great "GIFT" that Jesus gave us all!!!!

>

Kurt Gavin

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"Condemned and Stricken Flying Rat" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.207a2eeab...@news.readfreenews.net...

Yes, xianity does great things for the brain.

It turns many into queers (and pedophiles), then goes to ludicrous extremes
in condemning queers.

Doc Smartass

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"Parsifal" <jeanpasc...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:1175461688.7...@p15g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

> On 1 Apr., 20:13, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:

>> duke, American-American
>
> wtf does that mean "american-american"?

It's his reactionary way of slapping at hyphenated-Americans; if African-
American means "Black" then I suppose American-American means "festering
fucking imbecile with no chance of getting laid." Gotta admit, it's
shorter.

I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN!

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Apr 1, 2007, 6:16:07 PM4/1/07
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> I can't prove God's existence, but I do believe. It's only logical and
> all
> evidence demands his existence.
>
>
> duke, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

UHHH-HELLO?
DID ANYBODY ELSE HERE CATCH THAT?
GOD DAMN THIS MORON IS SUCH--WELL---A MORON!


Yang, AthD (h.c)

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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:17:59 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:00:27 GMT, Doc Smartass <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>news:k7sv031e525q4lcal...@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On 1 Apr 2007 10:34:58 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>> <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>brother gaedhealic wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth
>>unto
>>>>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>>>>
>>>>Let us pray for them.
>>>>
>>>>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>>
>>>
>>> BWAHAHAHAHA
>>>
>>> How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
>>> April Fool's Day.
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday
>>
>>Palm Sunday?!
>>
>>I forgot to jerk off!
>
>call yang for help.


Call PedophilEarl if it involves 9 YO girls

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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Apr 1, 2007, 6:26:09 PM4/1/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:14:10 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:28:56 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
>>>>April Fool's Day.
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday
>
>>>We keep trying to help the atheists wannabe's.
>>Ah, the Christian fools lighting the way
>
>Palm Sunday came well before the atheist fool's day.

Palm Sunday IS April Fool's Day

BWAHAHAHAHA

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 1, 2007, 8:34:41 PM4/1/07
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convicted neighbor Parsifal wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > brother gaedhealic wrote:
> >
> > > The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
> > > counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
> >
> > Let us pray for them.
>
> Fuck off, moron.

Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

May GOD bless you.

Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

Andrew <><

Phineas T Puddleduck

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Apr 1, 2007, 8:50:48 PM4/1/07
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In article <1175474081....@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:

> convicted neighbor Parsifal wrote:
> > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > brother gaedhealic wrote:
> > >
> > > > The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
> > > > counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
> > >
> > > Let us pray for them.
> >
> > Fuck off, moron.
>
> Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:


Lo! As it was written, when one finds oneself in a deep hole - one
bestest stoppeth digging.

Chung and Gaedhealic - partners in idiocy.

--
Painius admits he cannot answer a single question to NB:

"Yes, you're right of course, NB. And they get very useless very
quickly.
I shall do my best to ignore them, as you wish."

Marcus

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"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9905AD8A0CCD...@216.77.188.18...

> John Baker <nu...@bizniz.net> wrote in
> news:qu7013too07og8m5m...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:00:27 GMT, Doc Smartass
>> <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>>news:k7sv031e525q4lcal...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 1 Apr 2007 10:34:58 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>>> <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>brother gaedhealic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth
>>>unto
>>>>>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>>>>>
>>>>>Let us pray for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BWAHAHAHAHA
>>>>
>>>> How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
>>>> April Fool's Day.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday
>>>
>>>Palm Sunday?!
>>>
>>>I forgot to jerk off!
>>
>> The day isn't over yet. <G>
>
> Got till local midnight--already too late for people in Egypt.
>
> --
> Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
> aa # 1939 <== This number is obsolete and has been revoked.
>


"Zadok" <nob...@accesswave.ca> wrote in message news:xgOPh.33311$__3.21407@edtnps90...
> In Matthew chapter 21 we have the story of the entry of Jesus into
> Jerusalem.
> A religionist on the radio this morning, pointed out that in reality the
> entry of Jesus into Jerusalem was like a presidential motorcade, or the
> procession of the English Queen to her coronation.
>
> So, I thought we would examine this chapter.
>
> Starting with verse, two -
>
> 2saying to them, "Go to the village ahead of you, and at once you will find
> a donkey tied there, with her colt by her. Untie them and bring them to me.
> 3If anyone says anything to you, tell him that the Lord needs them, and he
> will send them right away."
>
> 4This took place to fulfill what was spoken through the prophet:
> 5"Say to the Daughter of Zion,
> 'See, your king comes to you,
> gentle and riding on a donkey,
> on a colt, the foal of a donkey.' "[a]
>
> 6The disciples went and did as Jesu
>
> Notice how Jesus sends his disciples to find the donkey and colt, with the
> intention of fulfilling the prophecy from Zechariah 9: 9 -
>
> [ The Coming of Zion's King ] Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion! Shout,
> Daughter of Jerusalem! See, your king comes to you, righteous and having
> salvation, gentle and riding on a donkey, on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
>
> Notice further a couple of things. The OT version says riding on a donkey,
> on a colt, the foal of a donkey.
>
> But the clowns who redacted this into Matthew's Gospel, got confused and
> said both the donkey and her colt.
>
> It really makes the whole story rather comic.
>
> Read Matthew 21: 7 - They brought the donkey and the colt, placed their
> cloaks on them, and Jesus sat on them.
>
> In their confusion, and their inablility to properly read the OT, they have
> Jesus sitting on both the donkey and the colt. Certainly indictative of the
> general stupidity of the times.
>
> Now, before you jump all over that, you must remember that in those days,
> the general populace never got to see a bible. They were the exclusive
> priviledge of the priestly class. So, it was impossible for the average
> person to point out the idiocy of the stories.
>
> Anyway, I won't delve into history too much. All you have to do is read some
> Josephus, either his The Antiquities of the Jews, or The Wars of the Jews,
> to know that the time was a period of unrest and revolts against Roamn rule.
> The Roman Governor in turn ruled the occupied territories with an iron fist.
>
> Again, bible redactors have recast Pontius Pilate as this peace loving,
> religiously tolerant, kind and benevolent governor, when in fact he was a
> blood thristy tyrant.
>
> So, in this period of unrest, you have this Jesus character, suddenly try to
> fulfil some bible prophecy that he was the King of the Jews, and make his
> big entry in Jerusalem, where the people would proclaim him King and open
> the rebellion against Roman rule.
>
> Thus fulfilling the role of the Messiah, and deliver his people from
> Bondage, as Moses delibvered his people from the Egyptians.
>
> However, Rome was not Egypt!!
>
> Jesus was quickly arrested, and charged with sedition!!
>
> He was tried by a Jewish council, who determined that he was a
> revolutionary, and rather than endanger all the people in a revolt that
> could not succeed, they turned him over to the Roman Governor, where he was
> quickly tried and executed.
>
> Roman's executed zealot revolutionaries by crucifixation, and put their
> crime on the cross.
>
> Back to Matthew 21 - verses 8-11 -
>
> 8A very large crowd spread their cloaks on the road, while others cut
> branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9The crowds that went
> ahead of him and those that followed shouted,
> "Hosanna[b] to the Son of David!"
> "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord!"[c]
> "Hosanna[d] in the highest!"
>
> 10When Jesus entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred and asked, "Who
> is this?"
>
> 11The crowds answered, "This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in
> Galilee."
>
> Got that?? A VERY LARGE CROWD proclaimed him. The whole city was stirred.
>
> Amazing. The Romans had spies everywhere, and a man being proclaimed as the
> heir of David, was a threat to their Herodian puppet Kings.
>
> And Romans dealt with threats.
>
> So, Jesus was executed by the Romans.
>
> And if you read Matthew 27: 37 - His crime was listed as was the Roman
> custom.
>
> READ IT!!
>
> 37Above his head they placed the written charge against him: THIS IS JESUS,
> THE KING OF THE JEWS.
>
>
> Dont' get caught up in religionist bullshit.
>
> Read the charge one more time.
>
> 37Above his head they placed the written charge against him: THIS IS JESUS,
> THE KING OF THE JEWS.
>
> So, the revolutionary was executed, for trying to overthrow the Roman puppet
> king!! That is sedition, and the penalty for sedition was crucifixation.
>
> The revolution failed, the leader was executed and his followers scattered.
>
> Read Matthew 27: 55 - Many women were there, watching from a distance. They
> had followed Jesus from Galilee to care for his needs.
>
> Where were his disciples. They were hiding!!
> Scared for their lives.
>
> Peter even denied his Lord three times.
>
> Fear does that to followers, once the ring leader has been taken.
>
> Just the facts people!!
>
> Smile.


YES! IT WAS *** PERFECT *** ! ! !

That is EXACTLY the way God wanted to go down!

The *REAL* reason Jesus was born was to die on the cross to
pay for the sins of man. It's all about propitiation!
But it had to cloaked, like a parable, so people wouldn't get
the *simple* understanding, like your just discovered and
think that was the only reason it went down that way! (-:


Propitiation! *** PART 1/2 ***

A man in Texas had the urge for a midnight snack. So he rolled out of bed
and walked down the hallway toward the kitchen. Passing the nursery, he
noticed his three-month-old son's bassinet toppled on the floor. Racing
back into the bedroom, he woke his wife to see if she had taken the baby
from the bassinet, but his wife was sound asleep and knew nothing of the
matter. Panic filled his heart as he ran down the hall, down the stairs,
and into the living room, where, much to his horror and shock, he saw his
twelve-foot pet python with a large lump in its center. He knew
immediately what happened to his baby. In anger and outrage, he went to
the back porch, grabbed a splitting maul, chopped up the snake, and ran
out of the front door screaming. He was later committed to a mental
institution.

This true story haunts me and is helpful to me in understanding a
biblical concept often misunderstood by people who wrestle with theology.
You see, although people do not have a problem when we talk about the
love of God, the wrath and judgment of God are things with which people
struggle. Yet if the man in Texas was justified in smashing that snake,
how much more is God justified in dealing with snakelike people who have
devoured others mindlessly and heartlessly.

I think of what happened in Somalia. Tens of thousands of babies starved.
Why? Because war lords were fighting for territory geographically,
jockeying for position politically, and preventing food from reaching
kids who were dying needlessly.

I think of what happened in Bosnia Herzegovina-where women were raped and
men slaughtered by the thousands, all in the name of ethnic cleansing.

I think of Medford, Oregon, where the school board forbids the
distribution of Bibles on school campuses as well as the use of any
school buildings to be rented to any church group for any reason. I
think, wonder, and ponder how it can be that a society that distributes
condoms refuses to allow the distribution of Scripture.

Why does God allow this insanity? Why does He, who sees not only the
tragedy of Bosnia and Somalia, but the utter depravity of even the most
seemingly together person, put up with a world so bent on
self-destruction?

The answer is very simple: Because God made man in His image, He gave him
the ability to choose. And when man chose to listen to the hissing of
Satan rather than to the Word of God, he unknowingly handed dominion of
the planet over to Satan. That's why Jesus called Satan the prince of
this world (John 14:30) and why Paul called him the god of this world (2
Corinthians 4:4). In the Garden of Eden, man turned this planet over to
Satan. That's why there are diseases and rape, war, death, and sadness on
our planet. It's not a matter of God allowing these things. It's a matter
of man giving Satan the authority to cause them.

Meanwhile, God looks down from heaven, and, as He was in Noah's day, is
filled with righteous indignation (Genesis 6:5-7). Yet even in Noah's
day, man found grace in the eyes of the Lord (Genesis 6:8). God looked at
Noah, had grace on Noah, and did a work through Noah. So, too, He will
again pour out His wrath in the period called the Tribulation.

Until then, however, what's the solution for the very genuine wrath God
feels concerning snakelike creatures like you and me? The answer is
propitiation. Why such a big word? Because no smaller word would suffice.
The Greek word translated "propitiation" is hilasterion, which means "to
appease the wrath of." We often say, "God hates the sin but loves the
sinner." While that is true, it is at best a shallow understanding
because the distinction between sin and sinner is not so easily made. You
see, I am not only the baby devoured by the python. I am the python. I am
a victim of sin, yes-but I am also its perpetrator.

Sin hurts people. It destroys mankind. It's cruel, vicious, and wrong.
And my own sin is no less devastating. Thus, God is understandably filled
with righteous indignation, which can only be appeased through
propitiation.

The people of Israel, having been delivered from Egypt, were on their way
to the land promised to them-a land flowing with milk and honey and
wonderful blessings. But en route, they started murmuring and complaining
(Numbers 21:5). The sin of complaining led to suffering in verse 6 as the
people were bitten by poisonous snakes. Suffering led to sorrow in verse
7. Sorrow led to salvation in verses 8, 9, when those who looked upon the
brass serpent were healed. Who was the Brass Serpent? Jesus (John
3:14-16).

Propitiation is God wielding a splitting maul upon the snake, the Brass
Serpent, Jesus Christ-instead of upon me. Am I calling Jesus Christ the
snake? Yes, because He who knew no sin became sin for us (2 Corinthians
5:21) in order that the wrath of the Father over the sin of the world
would be appeased. Instead of smashing a world that is snakelike and
bestial, He turned to His innocent Son and laid upon Him the iniquity of
us all.

Jesus understood this. That's why in the Garden of Gethsemane, He prayed
with such intensity, "Father, if possible, don't let Me drink of this
cup" (see Matthew 26:39). Socrates took the cup of hemlock and drank it
bravely. Was Jesus less than Socrates? No. It wasn't physical death Jesus
feared; it was the wrath of His Father that caused Him to break out in a
bloody sweat (Luke 22:44). Jesus knew what it meant to be the
propitiation, the satisfaction, the appeasement of wrath.

"The Father pouring out His anger upon His innocent Son is a form of
child abuse," you say. Wait a minute. What is the name of the Son?
Almighty God, Everlasting Father (Isaiah 9:6). You see, God Himself
became a Man and absorbed the wrath of His own indignation. The mystery
of the Trinity, the mystery of propitiation is that God actually wielded
the splitting maul upon Himself.

Hilasterion, or "propitiation"-the word we don't hear much today-is used
only five times in the entire New Testament: Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:1-2; 1
John 4:10; and Hebrews 9 are four of them. The Hebrews reference, I
believe, is a real key to unlocking this understanding, for in describing
the mercy seat, the author of Hebrews uses the word hilasterion. The
mercy seat, or hilasterion, covered the ark of the covenant. The ark of
the covenant contained the law. Therefore, through the mercy seat, God
says, "I know you've broken the law. I know you deserve to be consumed
because of it. But I'm going to put a lid on it through the sacrifice of
My Son. He is the helasmos, the mercy seat, the propitiation. It's not
something He gives. It's who He is, for He has come between you and the
broken law. The wrath that I should vent on you was instead placed upon
My Son, who died in your place."

The fifth use of the word "propitiation" is found in Luke 18. If you feel
offended that I would liken you to a baby-eating python, if you are
repulsed by a God who would became a Man and slaughter Himself to
propitiate His righteous indignation, Luke 18:10-14 is the passage for
you. It is a brief vignette, concerning the prayers of a Pharisee and a
tax collector. Look at verse 13: "God, be merciful to me a sinner." It
begins with "God" and ends with "sinner." The middle phrase, "be
merciful"-the verb form of hilasterion-stands between God and sin. Every
one of us is in one of two categories. You're either the self-righteous
Pharisee, or you're the tax collector, grateful that Jesus is standing
between God and your sin.

What does a correct understanding of the concept of propitiation do?

Propitiation blows my mind. Propitiation adds an entirely different
dimension to what Paul calls "so great salvation" (Hebrews 2:3). It's not
just the Father saying, "I'm going to settle mankind's problem
judicially." No, He deals with it personally.

Propitiation warms my heart. That God would love me so much He would
actually become the object of His own wrath touches my heart in a
profound way.

Propitiation weakens my knees. Considering the righteous wrath of a
powerful God makes me realize that sin is serious. The Bible says the
beginning of wisdom is to fear God (Proverbs 1:7). And it goes on to say
that to fear God is to hate sin (Proverbs 8:13). The concept of
propitiation makes me question my own view of sin. How do I react when I
see things on the screen or hear unkind words come from my own mouth? If
you're knowingly sinning today in what you're doing, or where you're
going, I encourage you to think through propitiation.

Propitiation tickles my toes. Jacob was in a place he called Luz, or
"separation" After tricking his brother Esau out of his birthright and
blessing, he was in the wilderness running for his life. That night, as
he laid his head on a rock and tried to sleep, God revealed Himself to
him, pouring out a blessing upon him and giving a promise to him. Jacob
woke up and said, "Surely I am in the presence of God and I knew it not."
And he changed the name of the location from Luz to "Bethel," or "house
of God." Then, as we read in Genesis 29:1, Jacob "went on his journey."
Translated literally this phrase reads, "Jacob had happy feet."

"I'm a creep. I'm a crook. I'm a criminal," he said, "but the Lord met
me, has a plan for me, and is going to travel with me. Now I have happy
feet."

So, too, I say, "Oh, Lord, I know I'm a sinner. But because You absorbed
the anger that should have been poured out upon me, I leave here today
with tickled toes, weakened knees, a warmed heart, and a blown mind!"

May God continue to give us a comprehension of His love through an
understanding of propitiation.

In Jesus' Name.

[1]

A Topical Study of Romans 3:23-25

(Romans 3:23-25 NASB)

23 for all ?1??a?have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

24 being justified as a gift ?a?by His grace through ?b?the
redemption which is in Christ Jesus;

25 whom God displayed publicly as ?a?a ?1?propitiation ?2??b?in
His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness,
?3?because in the ?c?forbearance of God He ?d?passed over the sins
previously committed;

[2]

3:25 God set forth Christ Jesus as a propitiation. A propitiation is a
means by which justice is satisfied, God's wrath is averted, and mercy
can be shown on the basis of an acceptable sacrifice.

Three times in the ?NT? Christ is spoken of as a propitiation. Here in
Romans 3:25 we learn that those who put their faith in Christ find mercy
by virtue of His shed blood. In 1 John 2:2 Christ is described as the
propitiation for our sins, and for those of the whole world. His work is
sufficient for the whole world but is only effective for those who put
their trust in Him. Finally, in 1 John 4:10, God's love was manifested in
sending His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

The prayer of the publican in Luke 18:13 was literally "God be propitious
to me, the sinner." He was asking God to show mercy to him by not
requiring him to pay the penalty of his aggravated guilt.

The word propitiation also occurs in Hebrews 2:17: "Therefore, in all
things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a merciful
and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make
propitiation for the sins of the people." Here the expression "to make
propitiation" means to put away by paying the penalty.

The ?OT? equivalent of the word propitiation is mercy-seat. The
mercy-seat was the lid of the ark. On the Day of Atonement the high
priest sprinkled the mercy- seat with the blood of a sacrificial victim.
By this means errors of the high priest and of the people were atoned for
or covered.

When Christ made propitiation for our sins, He went much further. He not
only covered them but did away with them completely.

Now Paul tells us in 3:25 that God set Christ forth as a propitiation by
His blood, through faith. We are not told to put our faith in His blood;
Christ Himself is the object of our faith. It is only a resurrected and
living Christ Jesus who can save. He is the propitiation. Faith in Him is
the condition by which we avail ourselves of the propitiation. His blood
is the price that was paid.

The finished work of Christ declares God's righteousness for the
remission of sins that are past. This refers to sins committed before the
death of Christ. From Adam to Christ, God saved those who put their faith
in Him on the basis of whatever revelation He gave them. Abraham, for
example, believed God, and it was reckoned to him for righteousness (Gen.
15:6). But how could God do this righteously? A sinless Substitute had
not been slain. The blood of a perfect Sacrifice had not been shed. In a
word, Christ had not died. The debt had not been paid. God's righteous
claims had not been met. How then could God save believing sinners in the
OT period?

The answer is that although Christ had not yet died, God knew that He
would die, and He saved men on the basis of the still-future work of
Christ. Even if ?OT? saints didn't know about Calvary, God knew about it,
and He put all the value of Christ's work to their account when they
believed God. In a very real sense, ?OT? believers were saved on credit.
They were saved on the basis of a price still to be paid. They looked
forward to Calvary; we look back to it.

That is what Paul means when he says that the propitiation of Christ
declares God's righteousness because He had passed over the sins that
were previously committed. He is not speaking, as some wrongly think, of
sins which an individual person has committed before his conversion. This
might suggest that the work of Christ took care of sins before the new
birth, but that a man is on his own after that. No, he is dealing with
the seeming leniency of God in apparently overlooking the sins of those
who were saved before the cross. It might seem that God excused those
sins or pretended not to see them. Not so, says Paul. The Lord knew that
Christ would make full expiation, and so He saved men on that basis.

So the ?OT? period was a time of the forbearance of God. For at least
4000 years He held back His judgment on sin. Then in the fullness of time
He sent His Son to be the Sin-bearer. When the Lord Jesus took our sins
upon Himself, God unleashed the full fury of His righteous, holy wrath on
the Son of His love.

[3]

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[1]Courson, J. (2003). Jon Courson's Application Commentary (894).
Nashville, TN: Thomas Nelson.

1 Or sinned a Rom 3:9 a Rom 4:4f, 16; Eph 2:8 b 1 Cor 1:30; Eph 1:7; Col
1:14; Heb 9:15 a 1 John 2:2; 4:10 1 Or a propitiatory sacrifice 2 Or by b
1 Cor 5:7; Heb 9:14, 28; 1 Pet 1:19; Rev 1:5 3 Lit because of the passing
over of the sins previously committed in the forbearance of God c Rom 2:4
d Acts 14:16; 17:30

[2]New American Standard Bible : 1995 update. 1995 (Ro 3:23). LaHabra,
CA: The Lockman Foundation.

NT New Testament OT Old Testament

[3]MacDonald, W., & Farstad, A. (1997, c1995). Believer's Bible
Commentary : Old and New Testaments (Ro 3:25). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.


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Propitiation - ** Part 2/2 **

Now we are coming to another wonderful word: propitiation, and propitiation is
toward God. It occurs seven times in the Greek text of the New Testament. The
reason it may not occur all seven times in your Bible is because in several places
it's not translated correctly into the same English word propitiation. For instance:

Therefore, in all things He had to be made like His brethren, that He might be a
merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation
[reconciliation in some English translations] for the sins of the people. (Hebrews
2:17)

It should be propitiation here, for it is that in the Greek.

First of all, let me say that the word propitiation is absolutely void of any pagan
meaning. If you have read any Greek mythology or read anything concerning the
pagan religions, or if you've read any of the stories of the Greeks, you will recall
that even Agamemnon had to make a human sacrifice to appease the gods on
Mount Olympus. They were perceived to be angry, therefore a sacrifice had to be
made, and that was called a propitiation. In fact, the Greeks used it like that.

Well, may I say to you that the word as used in the Scripture does not even hint of
being used to appease a deity. It doesn't convey the idea that God is angry and
you've got to do something to win Him over. It doesn't have that thought at all.

Therefore, I want to turn to several passages where this word occurs, and let's
look at them. First,

. being justified freely [that is, without a cause] by His grace through the
redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His
blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance
God had passed over the sins that were previously committed. (Romans 3:24-25)

The word propitiation actually means "?place of propitiation.?" I want us to see
something in Hebrews, where we'll find again this word in the Greek text. It is not
translated propitiation here but with another word, a very vivid word. I'll move
back and quote a few verses before the occurrence of this word since the writer to
the Hebrews is describing the tabernacle. He says:

. behind the second veil, the part of the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of
All, which had the golden censer and the ark of the covenant overlaid on all sides
with gold, in which were the golden pot that had the manna, Aaron's rod that
budded, and the tablets of the covenant; and above it were the cherubim of glory
overshadowing the mercy seat [here is our word propitiation].. (Hebrews 9:3-5)

Propitiation means "?to be a mercy seat.?" That's the picture. Notice again the
passage in Romans for just a moment:

. whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to
demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over
the sins that were previously committed. (Romans 3:25)

This is the tabernacle. Outside was the laver and also the brazen altar.

The Holy Place. The entrance faced east. Inside there was the golden lampstand
on the left (south), and over on the right (north) the table of showbread, and then
before the veil was the golden altar, which speaks of prayer.

The Golden Altar. It is interesting that the writer to the Hebrews puts the golden
altar inside the Holiest of All. The Old Testament places it in front of the veil, so
why did the writer to the Hebrews put it inside where the ark is? Because when
we come to the New Testament the veil which represented the body of Christ is
torn in two, opening the way into the presence of God, and Christ has gone up to
heaven. This altar of prayer is where the priest went to pray. And that's where our
Lord is now. He is in heaven, making intercession for us. Properly, the altar of
prayer belongs there now.

The Holiest of All. Behind the veil was the ark. And inside the ark there were three
things-the tables of stone on which the Ten Commandments were written, a pot
of manna, and Aaron's rod that budded. On top of the ark, which was shaped like
a box, there was this very highly ornamented cover with two cherubim of gold
over-shadowing it. Once a year the high priest went inside, and we are told that
the Shekinah Glory was there, indicating that God dwelt there. This is where they
were to meet with Him, and the high priest went there once a year and sprinkled
blood on the ark's cover between the cherubim. And this is the throne of God
where the presence of the holy God is. Now it is a mercy seat. It's where God can
extend mercy to His people. That which was a throne of judgment before has
become a mercy seat now.

Let's refer again to Romans 3:25. The apostle Paul, speaking of Christ, wrote,
"?Whom God set forth as a propitiation [mercy seat].?" Christ on the cross served
as our mercy seat. We know that as He hung on the cross, blood was running
down His face from that thorny crown, blood was coming from the nails in His
hands and in His feet. It is John who mentions the propitiation, by the way. He and
Paul are the only two writers who do that. John tells us at the time of the
crucifixion:

One of the soldiers pierced His side with a spear, and immediately blood and
water came out. And he who has seen has testified, and his testimony is true; and
he knows that he is telling the truth, so that you may believe. (John 19:34-35)

We know that this made a tremendous impression on John because, when he
wrote his first epistle, he made this statement again. He didn't forget about this
incident:

This is He who came by water and blood-Jesus Christ; not only by water, but by
water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness, because the Spirit is truth.
(1 John 5:6)

Without going into detail, we will skip verse 7 since it is not in our better
manuscripts:

And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood;
and these three agree as one. (1 John 5:8)

John was present at the crucifixion. Remember it was there at the cross that the
Lord said to him, "?Behold your mother!?" In other words, "?You take care of
My mother,?" and John says, "?When I was there I watched, and I was very
close.?" It seems that at the trial of Jesus, John got in closer than anyone else. And
he's also closer at the crucifixion than anyone else. He said in effect, "?While I was
watching, blood was coming from His head, blood was coming from His hands
and His feet. Finally, this soldier came up to make sure He was dead, and he ran a
spear into His side.?" John says, "?Out of that side there came water and blood.?"
May I say that John is going to tell us that our Lord was the propitiatory sacrifice
for our sins. It was Christ, Paul says, "?whom God set forth as a propitiation by
His blood, through faith?" (Romans 3:25). Jesus Christ on the cross shed His
blood. I think that every drop of blood went out of His body and that His whole
body was covered with His blood. That, my friend, is the mercy seat for you and
me. Because He shed His blood, taking your place and my place, a holy God now
is able to extend mercy to us. And that's the meaning of propitiation. It means
simply that Christ is our mercy seat.

Now I want to follow through on what John has said. Let's look at that for just a
moment:

And He Himself [Jesus Christ] is the propitiation for our sins. (1 John 2:2)

John is the one who says, "?I was there and I saw that soldier put the spear in His
side, and there came out blood and water.?" And he adds, "?These three bear
witness on earth and they agree.?" The Spirit and the water and the blood-and
that blood speaks of the fact that He shed His blood that He might be the
propitiation for your sins and my sins. This is tremendous! "?He Himself is the
propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.?"

Notice something here which is very important: John said this: "?My little children,
these things I write to you, so that you may not sin.?" Well, John, I wish I could
say I didn't sin, but I do. Now what shall I do?

And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the
righteous. (1 John 2:1)

And after all, John says, "?He Himself is the propitiation for our sins,?" referring to
our sins as Christians. I need a mercy seat every day, don't you? I don't want
justice from God. I don't want Him to treat me on the basis of legality because I
would come off a loser. I want mercy from God. That's the thing I want from
Him-mercy. And that is the thing both you and I need. He is the propitiation for
our sins.

John doesn't stop there:

. and not for ours only but also for the whole world. (1 John 2:2)

There is a mercy seat today for every person on topside of this earth. And people
are not lost because of the fact they are so bad and cannot do enough to gain
God's forgiveness. That's not the reason. They are lost because they won't go to
the mercy seat. There's mercy for every person. God is merciful today. And the
reason He is merciful is not because He's just bighearted and sort of sentimental.
No, He is not that. God is holy and righteous. And He loves. God loved long
before He did anything about it-but God is not only love, God is holy. And
though He might love a sinner, He cannot take the sin into heaven. But then Christ
died and was covered with blood. So He is the mercy seat. A holy God now can
extend mercy because Christ paid the ultimate penalty for our sin.

And that's not all. He wants to mention it again to us: "?In this is love, not that we
loved God, but that He loved us.?" He loved us, and what did He do? Did He
fling open the door of heaven and say, "?Everybody, come in?"? No, He cannot
do that because He is holy.

In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be
the propitiation [to be the mercy seat] for our sins. (1 John 4:10)

And so today a holy God is prepared to extend mercy down here to lost men and
lost women.

For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless
deeds I will remember no more. (Hebrews 8:12)

God says, "?I will be merciful to their unrighteousness.?" How can a holy God do
that? Because there is Christ on the cross, covered with blood, His precious blood
is poured out, and there is a mercy seat. The throne of God, where a holy God
would judge you and judge me-that very throne at this moment extends mercy to
us.

Oh, my friend, God is not a police officer waiting around the corner to give you a
ticket or to find fault with your conduct. God is not demanding. He is saying to the
world tonight, "?I have My arms outstretched toward you, and I am prepared to
extend mercy to you because Christ died. There is a mercy seat for you.?"

Now let's see that in action. Turn with me to the eighteenth chapter of Luke's
Gospel, starting with verse 9, our Lord

spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous,
and despised others: "?Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee,
and the other a tax collector [a publican]. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with
himself..?"

It's sort of like Hamlet's soliloquy. In Shakespeare's play, Hamlet goes out and
talks to no one but himself:

To be, or not to be, that is the question:

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer

The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,

Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,

And by opposing, end them? To die, to sleep-

No more, and by a sleep to say we end

The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks

That flesh is heir to; 'tis a consummation

Devoutly to be wish'd. To die, to sleep-

To sleep, perchance to dream-ay, there's the rub,

For in that sleep of death what dreams may come..

And so on. He's just talking to himself. And when a soliloquy is done by a fine
actor, with expression, it's tremendous! But may I say that the Pharisee's prayer
was a soliloquy. Our Lord says, "?He prayed thus with himself.?" He didn't pray it
to God. He had a big time patting himself on the back and, in essence, said,
"?What a fine actor I am!?" And an actor was what he was.

The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, "?God [although he addresses
God, he is not really talking to Him], I thank You that I am not like other
men-extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a
week; I give tithes of all that I possess.?" (Luke 18:11-12)

Now that's what a lot of people brag about today. But, you see, that kind of talk
didn't get anywhere, didn't get out of the rafters, and it did not get to God. My
friend, you never get to God when you go to Him and tell Him how good you are
and all that you're doing for others. No one gets to our holy God that way.

Then will you notice, a publican, a despised tax collector, was there.

And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to
heaven, but beat his breast, saying, "?God, be merciful to me a sinner!?" (Luke
18:13)

The only thing is, he didn't actually say, "?God, be merciful to me a sinner.?"
Literally, he said, "?O God, if there was only a mercy seat for me to go to!?" You
see, the Pharisee was the fundamentalist of that day, and he was quite separated.
Well, listen to him, and know that everything he said was true. He said, "?I do
this,?" and he did do it, friend. And he said, "?I'm not like this publican,?" and he
wasn't. But he sure was proud, and he was depending on his works. He was
depending on himself, not recognizing he needed to have mercy from God. As you
know, most people-your neighbors and my neighbors-don't think they need
mercy from God. Oh, my friend, we all need mercy from Him. He is the
propitiation for our sins. For those of us who are Christians, He is the mercy seat
for our sins. And He is the mercy seat for the sins of the whole world.

But this publican stands way off and he beats his breast. He won't even look up.
He says, "?God, I'm a poor publican. I have no access to that mercy seat yonder
in the temple. If there was only a mercy seat for me to go to!?" Why did he say
that? Because when he became a publican he denied his people. When he denied
his people, he denied his God and his religion, and he no longer had any access to
the mercy seat in the temple of that day. Therefore when he went to the temple to
pray, he couldn't claim mercy there. He was pleading, "?O God, if there was only
a mercy seat for a publican to go to.?" And the Lord Jesus Christ said, "?That
fellow went down justified.?" Why? Because the Lord Jesus right there and then
was on His way to make a mercy seat for him.

And our Lord has made a mercy seat for you and me. Today we don't need to
ask God to be merciful. My friend, He is already merciful! What can you do to
make Him merciful? Do you think you can shed a few little tears and win Him
over? Do you think you could promise to do some good little thing to persuade
Him? My friend, what do you want Him to do? He gave His Son to die for you.
Don't you know that when Christ died on the cross He paid the penalty for your
sins? You can't add anything to that. He is holding out His arms to you. Don't ask
God to be merciful-claim it, my friend! Claim it!

That's the way I stay in fellowship with Him. Bad as I am, I have to go to Him
constantly and say, "?Lord, I need mercy. Oh, I need mercy.?" He hasn't run out
of it yet, and He has enough for you. In fact, He has enough for the whole world.
Jesus Christ is the mercy seat for the sins of the whole world. Oh, how we need to
get to that mercy seat! Have you been there recently?

[1]

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[1]McGee, J. V. (2000, c1996). Doctrine for difficult days (electronic ed.) (148).
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Phineas T Puddleduck wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Parsifal wrote:
> > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > > > brother gaedhealic wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
> > > > > counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
> > > >
> > > > Let us pray for them.
> > >
> > > Fuck off, moron.
> >
> > Name-calling simply shows that you remain lost:
> >
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/dream.asp

>
> Lo! As it was written, when one finds oneself in a deep hole - one
> bestest stoppeth digging.

In regards to your being "in a deep hole..."

It is a sign from LORD Almighty GOD, that your hero in disbelief, our
dear Bob (this one) Pastorio, is taken from the world on this day.
Carol and the rest of Bob's family have my condolences and my
prayers. May GOD help them through this their difficult and sad time.

** begin Scripture (Luke 16:23-31) reading **

"In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far
away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham,
have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water
and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'

But Abraham replied, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received
your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is
comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us
and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go
from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.'

He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's
house, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will
not also come to this place of torment.'

Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to
them.'

'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to
them, they will repent.'

He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they
will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' "

** end Scripture reading **

Indeed, that someone Who has risen from the dead is LORD Jesus Christ.

HE is risen.

May you and yours have a blessed Easter in remembrance of HIM.

Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://EmoryCardiology.com

May HIS immortal brethren pray for our dying mortal friends and
neighbors:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Especially the family of our dearly departed Bob(this one) Pastorio:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
http://pics.livejournal.com/bobs_amanuensis/pic/0000z24f/g1

St. Jackanapes

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In sci.med.cardiology, Condemned and Stricken Flying Rat said...

Can you locate some posts? I'm going to build a webpage honoring Dr.
Chung, now that he's ordered his god to put me out of my misery. Two can
play this game. I'll try and find some myself, but if you come across
any send them here: larry_j...@hotmail.com

Thanks!

--
St. Jackanapes of Usenet ~ Bearer of The One True Liver ~
Ordained Minister & Holy Saint of The Universal Life Church
John "Melchizedek & Free Gift" Loiodice: SPNAKED! Wed, 28 Mar 2007
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Condemned and Stricken Flying Rat

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Apr 2, 2007, 4:38:41 AM4/2/07
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In article <qmsib.7...@news.alt.net>, quu...@hotmail.com says...
have a look for posts by mwphelps in SMC. That was hilarious too. Teh
Holey Spirit told Chunk that mwphelps was Fred's son and he refused to
believe that it was justa case of having the same surname!

At least it outed Chung as worshipping the Westboro funeral wreckers

FR

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 2, 2007, 7:08:46 AM4/2/07
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Condemned and Stricken Flying Rat wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (demon) wrote:
> > Condemned and Stricken Flying Rat wrote:

> > > satan via another sockpuppet (demon) wrote:
> > > > Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/FR

May GOD bless you.

Robibnikoff

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Apr 2, 2007, 4:19:21 PM4/2/07
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"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns990598681164...@216.77.188.18...

> "Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
> news:k7sv031e525q4lcal...@4ax.com:
>
>> On 1 Apr 2007 10:34:58 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

>> <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>>
>>>brother gaedhealic wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth
> unto
>>>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>>>
>>>Let us pray for them.
>>>
>>>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>
>>
>> BWAHAHAHAHA
>>
>> How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
>> April Fool's Day.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday
>
> Palm Sunday?!
>
> I forgot to jerk off!

TMI! TMI!
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557


duke

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Apr 2, 2007, 5:48:43 PM4/2/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:07:12 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:

>>>--Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers
>>>[misspellings, his].

>>>I talk to my only friend Jesus our "LORD"! I know "JESUS" understands my
>>>terrible desires and ect.

>> Jesus knows he belongs behind bars, and he just said the he knows that
>> Jesus
>> knows.

>The Catholic church has a history of protecting its pedophile priests

Uh, no it doesn't. There have been a few, but a very few.

duke

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Apr 2, 2007, 5:49:39 PM4/2/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:26:09 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:14:10 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:28:56 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
>><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter on
>>>>>April Fool's Day.
>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday
>>
>>>>We keep trying to help the atheists wannabe's.
>>>Ah, the Christian fools lighting the way
>>
>>Palm Sunday came well before the atheist fool's day.

>Palm Sunday IS April Fool's Day

Palm Sunday came well before the atheist fool's day.

duke, American-American

duke

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Apr 2, 2007, 5:50:30 PM4/2/07
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No change in what I've always said, dummy.

duke

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Apr 2, 2007, 5:51:22 PM4/2/07
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On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:25:31 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

>>>Palm Sunday?!
>>>I forgot to jerk off!

>>call yang for help.

I get funnier by the day.

Doc Smartass

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Apr 2, 2007, 6:59:55 PM4/2/07
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"Marcus" <l...@ckanap.com> wrote in news:461054b9$0$2263
$8d2e...@news.newsgroup-binaries.com:

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*switch hands*

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<SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK>
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<BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT>

Now be quiet.

--
Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939

AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS. Why?

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 2, 2007, 7:01:29 PM4/2/07
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:3gu213p16u7cjcvkj...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 22:07:12 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>
>>>>--Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers
>>>>[misspellings, his].
>
>>>>I talk to my only friend Jesus our "LORD"! I know "JESUS" understands my
>>>>terrible desires and ect.
>
>>> Jesus knows he belongs behind bars, and he just said the he knows that
>>> Jesus
>>> knows.
>
>>The Catholic church has a history of protecting its pedophile priests
>
> Uh, no it doesn't. There have been a few, but a very few.

Oh yes it does, and it wasn't just a few.

THe FACT that they protected them and facilitated them molesting boys, is
WHY THEY HAVE LOST SO MANY CIVIL SUITS.

There are cities where the pedophile church has gone bankrupt due to suits
WON against it, WON in open courts.

Doc Smartass

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Apr 2, 2007, 7:03:24 PM4/2/07
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"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
news:2ac013dq29e67vf3p...@4ax.com:

> On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:17:59 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:00:27 GMT, Doc Smartass
>><gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>"Yang, AthD (h.c)" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote in
>>>news:k7sv031e525q4lcal...@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On 1 Apr 2007 10:34:58 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
>>>> <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>brother gaedhealic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that
>>>>>> hearkeneth
>>>unto
>>>>>> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>>>>>
>>>>>Let us pray for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>Prayerfully in Jesus' ever-lasting love,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BWAHAHAHAHA
>>>>
>>>> How appropriate you fools celebrate your Jesus' week before Easter
>>>> on April Fool's Day.
>>>>
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palm_Sunday
>>>
>>>Palm Sunday?!
>>>
>>>I forgot to jerk off!
>>
>>call yang for help.
>
>
> Call PedophilEarl if it involves 9 YO girls

Girls?! He's catlick!

Doc Smartass

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Apr 2, 2007, 7:04:02 PM4/2/07
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"Robibnikoff" <witc...@broomstick.com> wrote in news:57d6qkF2cngf6U1
@mid.individual.net:

Well...I did forget :p~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Robibnikoff

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Apr 2, 2007, 8:42:22 PM4/2/07
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"Doc Smartass" <gek...@astroskivviesboymail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9906B6D6B223...@216.77.188.18...

> "Marcus" <l...@ckanap.com> wrote in news:461054b9$0$2263
> $8d2e...@news.newsgroup-binaries.com:
>
>> YE<SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK>
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> <SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK>
> <SMACK>
>
> *switch hands*
>
> <SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK>
> <SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK><SMACK>
> <SMACK>
>
> Dammit...
>
> <BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT>
> <BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT>
> <BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT><BOOT>
>
> Now be quiet.

Oh my. Need a hand?

I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN!

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Apr 2, 2007, 9:37:51 PM4/2/07
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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your so stupid-you really are.
read what you wrote-fucking damn stupid.
i quote your stupidity-begin quote- I can't prove God's existence, but I do
believe. It's only logical and
all the evidence demands his existence.-end quote.

do ya see the problem?

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:51:22 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:25:31 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>Palm Sunday?!
>>>>I forgot to jerk off!
>
>>>call yang for help.
>
>I get funnier by the day.


You're a bigger loser by the day.


--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division

The Bush 'balanced' budget: -3 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting

The Bush Iraq lie: -3255 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

duke

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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:01:29 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:

>>>>>--Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers
>>>>>[misspellings, his].
>>>>>I talk to my only friend Jesus our "LORD"! I know "JESUS" understands my
>>>>>terrible desires and ect.

>>>> Jesus knows he belongs behind bars, and he just said the he knows that
>>>> Jesus knows.

>>>The Catholic church has a history of protecting its pedophile priests
>> Uh, no it doesn't. There have been a few, but a very few.
>Oh yes it does, and it wasn't just a few.

No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.

>THe FACT that they protected them and facilitated them molesting boys, is
>WHY THEY HAVE LOST SO MANY CIVIL SUITS.

How many got more than 1 year in jail?

>There are cities where the pedophile church has gone bankrupt due to suits
>WON against it, WON in open courts.

How many? And how many for protecting a pedophile as opposed as the $ penalty
for a pedophile being previously assigned to their diocese?

You're got a long way to go to come to grips with the truth.

duke

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Apr 3, 2007, 6:46:47 PM4/3/07
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On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 21:37:51 -0400, "I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN!"
<nuniag...@bizniz.biz> wrote:

>>>> I can't prove God's existence, but I do believe. It's only logical and
>>>> all evidence demands his existence.

>>>UHHH-HELLO?


>>>DID ANYBODY ELSE HERE CATCH THAT?
>>>GOD DAMN THIS MORON IS SUCH--WELL---A MORON!

>> No change in what I've always said, dummy.

>your so stupid-you really are.


>read what you wrote-fucking damn stupid.
>i quote your stupidity-begin quote- I can't prove God's existence, but I do
>believe. It's only logical and
>all the evidence demands his existence.-end quote.

Yep, absolutely no change is what I said.

>do ya see the problem?

Other than your confused mind? No.

duke

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Apr 3, 2007, 6:47:14 PM4/3/07
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On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:27:35 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

>>>>call yang for help.
>>I get funnier by the day.
>You're a bigger loser by the day.

Just so long as I'm not you.

Doc Smartass

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"Robibnikoff" <witc...@broomstick.com> wrote in news:57dm6pF2ci68tU1
@mid.individual.net:

Nope :)

Kurt Gavin

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8tl513hsl3ncslr5b...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 23:01:29 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>--Freddy Goode, serial killer, in a letter to one of his lawyers
>>>>>>[misspellings, his].
>>>>>>I talk to my only friend Jesus our "LORD"! I know "JESUS" understands
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>terrible desires and ect.
>
>>>>> Jesus knows he belongs behind bars, and he just said the he knows that
>>>>> Jesus knows.
>
>>>>The Catholic church has a history of protecting its pedophile priests
>>> Uh, no it doesn't. There have been a few, but a very few.
>>Oh yes it does, and it wasn't just a few.
>
> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.


This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....

"reports came mostly from the United States and Ireland. The John Jay
Report[1] found accusations against 4,392 priests in the USA, about 4% of
all priests.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

>
>>THe FACT that they protected them and facilitated them molesting boys, is
>>WHY THEY HAVE LOST SO MANY CIVIL SUITS.
>
> How many got more than 1 year in jail

This idiot doesn't know the difference between civil and criminal cases.

" Some bishops have been heavily criticized for moving offending priests
from parish to parish rather than seeking to have them stripped of their
faculties. Many dioceses submitted priests accused of sex abuse for
intensive psychotherapeutic treatment and assessment, with the priests only
resuming pastoral duties when the bishop was advised by the treating
psychologists or psychiatrists that it was safe for them to be so assigned.
"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases

>
>>There are cities where the pedophile church has gone bankrupt due to suits
>>WON against it, WON in open courts.
>
> How many? And how many for protecting a pedophile as opposed as the $
> penalty
> for a pedophile being previously assigned to their diocese?

You can't even write a coherent sentence.

Idiot.


> You're got a lo way to go to come to grips with the truth.


You're a degenerate liar.

Yang, AthD (h.c)

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Apr 3, 2007, 8:18:00 PM4/3/07
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:47:14 -0500, duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 21:27:35 -0700, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
><eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>call yang for help.
>>>I get funnier by the day.
>>You're a bigger loser by the day.
>
>Just so long as I'm not you.


Of course not, little GOPedophile

* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered
to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and
13.

* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting
sex from 13-year old girls.

* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days
in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year
period.

* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with
molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from
Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him
flirting with a 16-year old boy.

* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative
Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a
13-year old girl on the internet.

* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres
confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to
charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has
repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling
a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex
with a 5-year old boy.

* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of
an associate in the petition business.

* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to
fondling a 14-year-old girl.

* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins
pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted
child molester.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence
in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child
pornography over the internet.

* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of
soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to
molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years
in prison.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10
years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with
molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a
convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran
church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual
act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded
guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a
bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to
three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old
girl.

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom
Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended
during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after
admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having
an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced
to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom
appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex
parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties
at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of
having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of
child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual
photos.

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of
sex crimes involving children.

* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty
to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five
years later on the same charge.

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor
working as a congressional page.

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly
Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of
child pornography on his home computer.

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was
charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay
bar.

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for
distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"),
was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful
sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the
drug LSD.

* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with
molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having
sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after
the allegations were reported in the media.

* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to
traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a
14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to
exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was
sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after
he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts
of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to
two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a
14-year old girl.

* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of
first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven
felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age
of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found
guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to
molesting a male child.

* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual
assault on a teenage girl.

* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his
two daughters.

* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was
convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded
guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no
contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession
of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30
months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state
representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography
was found in his possession.

* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate
Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of
soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a
"good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly
having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in
prison.

* Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for
Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in
the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed
reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage
girls.

* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation"
Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced
to six years in prison.

* Republican president of the New York City Housing Development
Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography
on his computer.

* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard
A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen,
62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has
allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1
million to have sex with a large number of young women.

* Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape
of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into
providing information about the anti-American insurgency. See excerpt
of one prisoner's report here and his full report here.

I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN!

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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well,there ya go.
you just proved how dumb you are.
ya see,puke,the thing about being stupid-like you are-is that your too
stupid to realize how stupid you truelly are.
is you can not see the flaw in what you scratched out-well-that there is
proof of your stupidity.
that probably hurt your little head.


duke

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Apr 5, 2007, 2:40:03 PM4/5/07
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On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:50:24 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:

>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.

>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....

But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?

duke

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Apr 5, 2007, 2:40:49 PM4/5/07
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Haahaahaahaahaahaa.

Mu

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Apr 5, 2007, 3:34:39 PM4/5/07
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:40:03 -0500, duke wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:50:24 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>
>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>
>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>
> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?
>
> duke, American-American

duke, duke, interacting with Gavin is like talking to Jello except more
worthless. You can eat the Jello.

duke

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Apr 5, 2007, 5:10:19 PM4/5/07
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I understand fully. But sometimes one just has to laugh.

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 5, 2007, 6:32:07 PM4/5/07
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:50:24 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>
>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>
>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>
> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?


You're just an ignorant scumbag.

Go drink some koolaid.

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 5, 2007, 6:33:04 PM4/5/07
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"Mu" <nocowi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Poor little chung - too afraid to use his real name, too afraid to speak
directly.

Kurt Gavin

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 15:34:39 -0400, Mu <nocowi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 13:40:03 -0500, duke wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 23:50:24 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>>>
>>>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>>>
>>> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?
>>>
>>> duke, American-American
>>
>>duke, duke, interacting with Gavin is like talking to Jello except more
>>worthless. You can eat the Jello.
>
> I understand fully. But sometimes one just has to laugh.

People laugh at you all the time you braindead fool.

Here's an example: a couple posts up you showed you did't know the
difference between civil and criminal law.

LOL -now disappear moron and take your little "mu" with you.

Mu

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Apr 5, 2007, 9:03:32 PM4/5/07
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 16:10:19 -0500, duke wrote:

>>duke, duke, interacting with Gavin is like talking to Jello except more
>>worthless. You can eat the Jello.
>
> I understand fully. But sometimes one just has to laugh.
>
> duke, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

No problem, he'll supply dozens.

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 5, 2007, 9:34:16 PM4/5/07
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"Mu" <nocowi...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Really, Andi?

Is that why you're afraid to reply to my posts?

watch the Chung demon let out a shriek and scamper back to its super
naturalist swamp.

duke

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Apr 6, 2007, 8:37:36 AM4/6/07
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:32:07 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:

>>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?

>You're just an ignorant scumbag.
>Go drink some koolaid.

Ok, so you were just mouthing off and really don't know what you said.

duke

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Apr 6, 2007, 8:38:57 AM4/6/07
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On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:35:35 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:

>>>>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>>>>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>>>> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?

>>>> duke, American-American
>>>
>>>duke, duke, interacting with Gavin is like talking to Jello except more
>>>worthless. You can eat the Jello.

>> I understand fully. But sometimes one just has to laugh.

>People laugh at you all the time you braindead fool.

>Here's an example: a couple posts up you showed you did't know the
>difference between civil and criminal law.

?? Say what?

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 6, 2007, 10:18:14 AM4/6/07
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:35:35 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>>>>>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>>>>> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?
>
>>>>> duke, American-American
>>>>
>>>>duke, duke, interacting with Gavin is like talking to Jello except more
>>>>worthless. You can eat the Jello.
>
>>> I understand fully. But sometimes one just has to laugh.
>
>>People laugh at you all the time you braindead fool.
>
>>Here's an example: a couple posts up you showed you did't know the
>>difference between civil and criminal law.
>
> ?? Say what?

Exactly.


> dupe, American-American

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 6, 2007, 10:18:46 AM4/6/07
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 22:32:07 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>>>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>>> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?
>
>>You're just an ignorant scumbag.
>>Go drink some koolaid.
>
> Ok, so you were just mouthing off and really don't know what you said.

Pathetic moron.

duke

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Apr 6, 2007, 1:56:00 PM4/6/07
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:18:46 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:

>>>>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>>>>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>>>> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?

>>>You're just an ignorant scumbag.
>>>Go drink some koolaid.

>> Ok, so you were just mouthing off and really don't know what you said.

>Pathetic moron.

Yes you are, but maybe you can't help it.

Kurt Gavin

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Apr 6, 2007, 3:29:00 PM4/6/07
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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 14:18:46 GMT, "Kurt Gavin" <bugg...@s.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> No, it was just a few, unless you have some numbers.
>>>>>>This type of crime is obviously under-reported and ....
>>>>> But why would anyone believe YOU that it is under reported?
>
>>>>You're just an ignorant scumbag.
>>>>Go drink some koolaid.
>
>>> Ok, so you were just mouthing off and really don't know what you said.
>
>>Pathetic moron.
>
> Yes you are, but maybe you can't help it.


I have helped it - by getting out of the dank swamp of religion.

It is you pedophile supporters who are in the muck.

You're such a craphead that you don;t know the difference between civil and
criminal law, and when I pointed where you had made the error, you STILL
couldn't figure it out.

I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN!

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"duke" <duckg...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 5 Apr 2007 11:06:03 -0400, "I KILLED YOUR GOD---IT WAS FUN!"
> <nuniag...@bizniz.biz> wrote:
>
>>well,there ya go.
>>you just proved how dumb you are.
>>ya see,puke,the thing about being stupid-like you are-is that your too
>>stupid to realize how stupid you truelly are.
>>is you can not see the flaw in what you scratched out-well-that there is
>>proof of your stupidity.
>>that probably hurt your little head.
>
> Haahaahaahaahaahaa.
>
> yep-that hurt your half-baked braincell allright.


Condemned and Stricken Flying Rat

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Apr 18, 2007, 4:28:02 PM4/18/07
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In article <%FUPh.17294$PL....@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
bugg...@s.com says...
>
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <lov...@thetruth.com> wrote in message
> news:1175448898.8...@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > brother gaedhealic wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto
> >> counsel is wise. Pro 12:15
>
> If you're so sure "god" and jesus" exist, why don't you just produce them so
> they can prove their existence and powers?
>
> If you can't, then it means it's all a bogus myth.
>
>
> > Let us pray for them.
>
> Pray for yourself- you're the one who is so weak he needs a fantasy crutch.
>
> You're the one ranting on the internet, with no life or career.
>
> Like all supernaturalists, you're pathetic and weak.
>

Do you think our esteemed colleagues in the military, both serving and
retired, should be introduced to the fake Christian and unemployed
'cardiologist' Andrew Ben-Hua Chung?

After all, he has gone on record many times in his usenet preaching as
saying he admires and worships Fred Phelps and the Westboro crew. The
same Phelps that pickets the funerals of soldiers killed in combat in
Iraq.

The same Phelps who has pickets holding up signs stating "God hates
America" and "Thank God for IEDs" when a fallen comrade is being buried
after giving his or her life in service.

Chung runs away hissing and howling if you challenge him. But he can't
get away from this. Google is totally unbiased and his worshipping of
the Phelps mob is archived for all to see

FR

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