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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 3, 2008, 2:00:15 PM4/3/08
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Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
lowering medications and those around them if they are operating heavy
machinery.

The brain absolutely requires glucose to function normally.

Smarter to eat less, down to the right amount to possibly cure the
type-2 diabetes:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

A simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow


Reality_Check© wrote:
> Driver Dies in Fiery Wrong-Way Truck Crash Caught on Video
>
> Watch the Video:
> http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=6201569&version=1&locale=EN-US
>
>
> Wednesday, April 02, 2008
>
> A Canadian truck driver drove into oncoming traffic for 20 minutes at high
> speeds before dying in a crash when the truck went over an abutment, as seen
> on eyewitness video obtained by FOX News.
>
> The truck driver had a medical condition that may have contributed to the
> incident, United Press International reported.
> In the dramatic video footage of the incident, the truck hits a concrete
> guard rail on an exit ramp near Edmonton, Alberta, becoming airborne and
> falling onto railroad tracks, before exploding.
>
> The truck clipped several cars and numerous others were forced into a ditch
> along the highway, but no one other than the truck's driver was hurt,
> according to the UPI report.
>
> The driver, 25-year-old Mark Santos, was an insulin-dependent diabetic, his
> brother Jordan Santos told the UPI.
> A witness of Monday's afternoon crash described the driver to reporters as
> looking "mad," "angry" and "zoned out."
> "He was basically slumped down, head down, bobbing around, arms hanging down
> at his side," Dave Hybeck told FOX News.
>
> The driver's brother said he's been around his brother when he's gone into
> hypoglycemia and Santos would be confused and sleepy.
>
> "You don't know what was going on inside of the cab of that vehicle; you don't
> know what that person was thinking, so all of those pieces are what our
> officers need to bring this to a conclusion," Edmonton Police spokesperson
> Karen Carlson told FOX News.
>
> Autopsy results were expected later in the week.

_ Prof. Jonez _

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Apr 3, 2008, 2:02:56 PM4/3/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
> lowering medications and those around them if they are operating heavy
> machinery.

So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?

>
> The brain absolutely requires glucose to function normally.

So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?


> Smarter to eat less, down to the right amount to possibly cure the
> type-2 diabetes:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?

>
> A simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?

>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?

>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Your pathetic god hates diabetics.

>
> Andrew <><

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 3, 2008, 5:23:01 PM4/3/08
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_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
> > lowering medications and those around them if they are operating heavy
> > machinery.
>
> So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?

Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's
license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because
his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such
incapacitating events.

The surest way of preventing hypoglycemia would be by curing the
type-2 diabetes by losing the black fat (VAT). The smartest way of
losing the VAT is by eating less, down to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

Again, a simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Scott in SoCal wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
> >> > lowering medications and those around them if they are operating heavy
> >> > machinery.
> >>
> >> So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
> >
> >Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's
> >license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because
> >his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such
> >incapacitating events.
>
> So let's say the guy had developed cataracts instead of diabetes;
> would you also want to wait until he had "frequent episodes" before
> you took his license away?

The visual impairment from cataracts would be more than frequent in
that it would be constant. Such a person would not pass the required
visual acuity screening to renew their license in the first place.

Truth is simple.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be healthier:

Larry Bud

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Apr 4, 2008, 8:43:46 AM4/4/08
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> So let's say the guy had developed cataracts instead of diabetes;
> would you also want to wait until he had "frequent episodes" before
> you took his license away?
>
> What if the diabetic kills someone with his very first "episode?" Why
> do we have to wait for something bad to happen before we yank
> someone's license?

You sould like Aunt Judy. That argument could be made about anything,
including your Vette.

Where do you draw the line? Seemlingly perfectly healthy 30 year olds
have been known to have strokes or die from an unknown heart problem.
Everyone is at risk, it's just a matter of the risk amount. I have
known people for 15 years that I had no clue had diabetes.

J666

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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 7:43:46 -0500, Larry Bud wrote
(in message
<d4bc72c0-f879-4e99...@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>):

> Everyone is at risk, it's just a matter of the risk amount.

Warning - Life can be hazardous to your life

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 4, 2008, 3:46:37 PM4/4/08
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Scott in SoCal wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >Scott in SoCal wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
> >> >> > lowering medications and those around them if they are operating heavy
> >> >> > machinery.
> >> >>
> >> >> So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
> >> >
> >> >Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's
> >> >license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because
> >> >his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such
> >> >incapacitating events.
> >>
> >> So let's say the guy had developed cataracts instead of diabetes;
> >> would you also want to wait until he had "frequent episodes" before
> >> you took his license away?
> >
> >The visual impairment from cataracts would be more than frequent in
> >that it would be constant. Such a person would not pass the required
> >visual acuity screening to renew their license in the first place.
>
> But if they already have the license, they won't have to take a vision
> test for years. So this hypothetical driver would have plenty of
> opportunity to drive legally...

Not in good conscience however.

> - at least until his "episodes" became
> "frequent."

Again, visual impairment from cataracts would be more than frequent
because this would be constant.

> >Truth is simple.
>
> That's right. The simple truth is diabetics who can fall into
> hypoglycemic comas at unpredictable times should NOT be allowed to
> drive.

That would be your opinion rather than truth as evident by your use of
the word "should."

Again, truth is simple.

It is possible for you to fall into a hypoglycemic coma at any moment
if GOD so wills it.

Therefore, by your own measure, your driver's license (if you have
one) should be revoked.

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

_ Prof. Jonez _

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Apr 4, 2008, 6:49:53 PM4/4/08
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
>>> lowering medications and those around them if they are operating
>>> heavy machinery.
>>
>> So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
>
> Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's
> license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because
> his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such
> incapacitating events.

And how many of these "episodes" does it take to cause a fatal accident?

>
> The surest way of preventing hypoglycemia would be by curing the
> type-2 diabetes by losing the black fat (VAT). The smartest way of
> losing the VAT is by eating less, down to the right amount:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart
>
> Again, a simple parable in hopes of promoting understanding:
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable
>
> Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:
>
> http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier
>
> Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,
>
> Andrew <><
>
>>>

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 4, 2008, 9:20:16 PM4/4/08
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_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
> >>> lowering medications and those around them if they are operating
> >>> heavy machinery.
> >>
> >> So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
> >
> > Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's
> > license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because
> > his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such
> > incapacitating events.
>
> And how many of these "episodes" does it take to cause a fatal accident?

That would be knowable only by GOD.

"See you are well again. Now stop sinning or something worse may
happen to you." -- LORD Jesus Christ

Amen.

Thus, it remains smarter to eat less, down to the right amount:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/BeSmart

A simple parable given in hopes of promoting understanding:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Parable

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be euglycemic:

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com/BeHealthier

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Andrew <><


--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Lawful steward of http://EmoryCardiology.com
A latter-day disciple of the KING of kings and LORD of lords.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/DiscipleNow

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>
> >

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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <heart...@emorycardiology.com> wrote in message
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>_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> > _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
>> >>> lowering medications and those around them if they are operating
>> >>> heavy machinery.
>> >>
>> >> So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
>> >
>> > Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's
>> > license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because
>> > his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such
>> > incapacitating events.
>>
>> And how many of these "episodes" does it take to cause a fatal accident?
>
> That would be knowable only by GOD.

Which god ?


Tiger_Lily

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Apr 4, 2008, 10:40:02 PM4/4/08
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Scott in SoCal wrote:

> Yes, it is. People who are a danger to others on the roads due to
> their medical conditions should not be permitted to drive. That's the
> truth (not to mention the law). This guy's doctor should have filled
> out the Canadian equivalent of this form
>
> http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/ds/ds326.pdf
>
> and reported him to the DMV and gotten his license yanked. Notice that
> Diabetes is specifically listed on this form, indicating that, despite
> your OPINION, it is a cause for concern to the folks who actually give
> out driver's licenses.


a Semi driver in Alberta MUST have a complete physical exam every year
and get clearance from their Dr before they can renew their
license............ even if their Dr allows them, DMV can refuse the license

i drive a car........ i must have a Medical every year........ the DMV
is reported to every time i have an unconscious hypo or a severe hypo NO
MATTER if i'm driving or NOT....... the DMV has the final say on if i
will get my license (my last unconscious hypo was due to an insulin
change back in 1993)

are you telling me that *I* should not be driving?

i think you are 'over the top' in your opinion about 'potentially could
have a hypo'

ANYONE can have a heart attack at the wheel, and have been in 'good
health' up until that point......... i know........ my uncle died of a
heart attack at the wheel while doing 60MPH and 3 people in the car he
hit died :(

i guess under that logic YOU shouldn't be driving either?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Reality_Check© wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
> >> >>> lowering medications and those around them if they are operating
> >> >>> heavy machinery.
> >> >>
> >> >> So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
> >> >
> >> > Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a driver's
> >> > license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic episodes because
> >> > his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to prevent such
> >> > incapacitating events.
> >>
> >> And how many of these "episodes" does it take to cause a fatal accident?
> >
> > That would be knowable only by GOD.
>
> Which god ?

There is only One.

Your asking simply demonstrates you don't know HIM.

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

http://TruthRUS.org/KnowingGOD

Hunger is wonderful:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Hunger

It's how we know what GOD wants, which is what is good.

Yes, hunger is our knowledge of good versus evil that Adam and Eve
paid for with their and our immortal lives.

Those who suffer from the powerful delusion predicted by the prophecy
of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 would deny this and perish ( gone !!! )
forever ...

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyOne

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyTwo

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyThree

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/CrazyFour

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Bob

... gone:

http://YouTube.com/watch?v=Qb6d_z5C35E

Such will be the demise of all those who refuse to know **and** love
the truth, Who is LORD Jesus Christ:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Love/TheTruth

Be hungry... be healthy... be hungrier... be blessed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/BeBlessed

"Blessed are you who hunger NOW...

... for you will be satisfied." -- LORD Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen.

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Luke6_21

A simple parable for the wise and discerning:

_ Prof. Jonez _

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> Reality_CheckŠ wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>> _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on
>>>>>>> glucose- lowering medications and those around them if they are
>>>>>>> operating heavy machinery.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So should Diabetics be allowed to Drive ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. However, it would be reasonable to consider revoking a
>>>>> driver's license if a diabetic is having frequent hypoglycemic
>>>>> episodes because his/her diabetes is not optimally managed to
>>>>> prevent such incapacitating events.
>>>>
>>>> And how many of these "episodes" does it take to cause a fatal
>>>> accident?
>>>
>>> That would be knowable only by GOD.
>>
>> Which god ?
>
> There is only One.


Says who ?

>
> Your asking simply demonstrates you don't know HIM.

How do you know it's a "HIM" ?


> May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
> blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
> Christ as the Son of Man ...

Fuck your god and fuck what it stands for.

Any questions?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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_ Prof. Jonez _

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ScienceByGOD

Fuck your god, and fuck what it stands for, you superstitious imbecile.

Any questions?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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neighbor_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ScienceByGOD
>
> Fuck your god, and fuck what it stands for, you superstitious imbecile.

Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to GOD for HIS compelling
you to unwittingly demonstrate what life would be without HIM.

Laus Deo ! ! !

http://HeartMDPhD.com/LausDeo

May you and other dear neighbors, friends, and brethren have a
blessedly wonderful 2008th year since the birth of our LORD Jesus
Christ as the Son of Man ...

... by being hungrier:

_ Prof. Jonez _

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> neighbor_ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
>> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>>
>>> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ScienceByGOD
>>
>> Fuck your god, and fuck what it stands for, you superstitious
>> imbecile.
>
> Many thanks,

Fuck your god.

> much praise,

Fuck your christ.

> and all the glory to GOD for

Fuck your holey ghost.

> HIS compelling you to unwittingly demonstrate what life would be without HIM.

So you admit there is no god, eh nutter?


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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_ Prof. Jonez _

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
> QED
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/ScienceByGOD

Piss on your christ, nutter.

Matthew T. Russotto

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In article <0qdcv39rgg7e60qin...@4ax.com>,
Scott in SoCal <scotte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I draw the line at serious medical conditions which could result in a
>driver blacking out at unpredictable times. :)

Sorry, that's life. Any one of us could have a stroke or a heart
attack or other physiological event which could cause us to black out
at any time. For some people, it's probably even more likely than for
an otherwise-healthy diabetic whose disease is under control. Unless
you quantify the chance of blackout, your "line" is useless.
--
There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can
result in a fully-depreciated one.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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convicted neighbor Kate (Tiger_Lily) wrote:
> neighbor _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Kate (Tiger_Lily) wrote:
> >> neighbor _ Prof. Jonez _ wrote:
> >>> Studemania wrote:
> >>>>"Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS" <beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>> We let convicted drunk drivers and speeders continue to drive so
> >>>>> why not everyone?
>
> >>>> Having ridden with my GF many miles
> >>> <snip personal annecdote>
> >>>
> >>> Why should Diabetics be allowed to drive?
> >>>
> >> a better question would be 'why not' ?
> >
> > Why not drunks, epileptics and those under 16 yrs old ?
>
> it's obvious that drunks aren't LEGALLY allowed to drive........
> epileptics ARE allowed to drive as long as they are on effective
> medications for their seizures......... and laws are in place for
> children under 16 yrs old
> >
> >> ANYONE can have a sudden unexpected heart attack at the wheel of their
> >> vehicle, and kill the people in the car(s) they hit
> >
> > Sure, and pigs might fly if they had wings.
>
> this very thing happened to my uncle when he was 38 years old...........
> dead at the wheel, driving 60mph down the freeway....... into the car
> with a family in it........ all dead at scene

All surviving family and friends have my condolences.

This simply illustrates that tomorrow in this world is not promised
for any of us especially after being convicted by the Holy Spirit:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Indeed, you do not have much longer, dear Kate:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Prophecy

May you wisely choose to repent now by publicly declaring with your
mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

May we, who are Jesus' disciples, continue to pray for your perishing
soul:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/PrayForKate

Father Haskell

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On Apr 3, 2:00 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> Hypoglycemia is a very real danger both for diabetics on glucose-
> lowering medications and those around them if they are operating heavy
> machinery.
>
> The brain absolutely requires glucose to function normally.
>
> Smarter to eat less, down to the right amount to possibly cure the
> type-2 diabetes

Smarter to eat a Snickers.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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J666

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On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:27:16 -0500, Father Haskell wrote
(in message
<8780ee7e-371c-471e...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>):

> Smarter to eat a Snickers.

And to collect girl's knickers

Father Haskell

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On Apr 6, 6:54 pm, J666 <jeaa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Apr 2008 17:27:16 -0500, Father Haskell wrote
> (in message
> <8780ee7e-371c-471e-b94c-01cac3428...@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>):

>
> > Smarter to eat a Snickers.
>
> And to collect girl's knickers

I'm Popeye the Sailor Man!!!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Studemania

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On Apr 4, 5:52 am, J666 <jeaa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 7:43:46 -0500, Larry Bud wrote
> (in message
> <d4bc72c0-f879-4e99-b481-76cd0ec13...@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>):
>
> > Everyone is at risk, it's just a matter of the risk amount.
>
> Warning - Life can be hazardous to your life

Life is a sexually--transmitted condition

_ Prof. Jonez _

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Except of course the MILLIONS of species that
don't reproduce sexually.

Studemania

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On Apr 4, 7:12 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:46:37 -0700 (PDT), "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
> The same could be said for drivers who are likely to slip into comas,
> could it not? Why the double standard?

>
> >> - at least until his "episodes" became "frequent."
>
> >Again, visual impairment from cataracts would be more than frequent
> >because this would be constant.
>
> So where do you draw the line?

>
> >> >Truth is simple.
>
> >> That's right. The simple truth is diabetics who can fall into
> >> hypoglycemic comas at unpredictable times should NOT be allowed to
> >> drive.
>
> >That would be your opinion rather than truth as evident by your use of
> >the word "should."
>
> My opinion holds just as much "truth" as yours does.
>
> >Again, truth is simple.

>
> Yes, it is. People who are a danger to others on the roads due to
> their medical conditions should not be permitted to drive. That's the
> truth (not to mention the law). This guy's doctor should have filled
> out the Canadian equivalent of this form
>
> http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/ds/ds326.pdf
>
> and reported him to the DMV and gotten his license yanked. Notice that
> Diabetes is specifically listed on this form, indicating that, despite
> your OPINION, it is a cause for concern to the folks who actually give
> out driver's licenses.
>
> >It is possible for you to fall into a hypoglycemic coma at any moment
> >if GOD so wills it.
>
> Oh, and I suppose your fantasies about an invisible man in the sky are
> "truth," as well?
> --
> "Dave's not here, man!"
>   - Tommy Chong- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Yes, some diabetics might be liable to pass-out.

Now, how about someone who hit another drinker when that person said
something insultig to him. He is, therefore, proven to be subject to
flyiomg off the handle. Therefore anyoe who ever started a fight or
physically responded to an insult is liable to suffer from road rage
nd should have his/her licence pulled.
Agree?

Studemania

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On Apr 4, 11:08 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:


> > Which god ?
>
> There is only One.
>

Who is the same, no matter what name he / she goes under.
Some worshippers of God have never even seen a person from a
"civilized" society - in fact don't even know that there are
civilizations other than their own.

How can any educated person have faith that their religion is the true
one if they haven't studied all known religions just as deeply as they
have their own, which was probably passed onto them by their
parents.)

Tell me PhD/MD, can a believer be an agnostic?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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neighbor Studemania wrote:

> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
>
> > > Which god ?
> >
> > There is only One.
> >
> Who is the same, no matter what name he / she goes under.

HE has only one begotten Son, Who is LORD Jesus Christ.

"I am the way and the truth and the life." -- GOD (John 14:6)

The brethren of LORD Jesus Christ are neither perfect nor more
special...

... we are simply forgiven by GOD:

http://www.interviewwithgod.com/forgiven/

May you wisely choose to be forgiven too by publicly declaring with


your mouth that "Jesus is LORD:"

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/TheWay

Prayerfully in the infinite power and might of the Holy Spirit,

Mike Mordant

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Apr 10, 2008, 7:16:09 PM4/10/08
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I love to go swimin'
with bowlegged wimmin

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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On Apr 10, 6:26 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan

I'm strong to the finish
'cause I eats me spinach

I'm Popeye the Sailor Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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Apr 10, 2008, 8:25:33 PM4/10/08
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On Apr 10, 7:16 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Nope - not Satan and not dead.

I know that this frustrates and disappoints you.

You a a sad sick little man. Get help!

I'm Popeye the Sailor Man

TOOT TOOT!!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Father Haskell

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Apr 10, 2008, 9:07:49 PM4/10/08
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And swim between their legs

Message has been deleted

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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Apr 11, 2008, 10:24:09 AM4/11/08
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On Apr 10, 7:37 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

You keep making this threat - It has not worked using your "scary"
Holy Ghost powers. I'm sure that you are frustrated.

Bring it on - you know you want too.

See ya!

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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On Apr 12, 2:57 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Imbecilesatan

So imbiclie is the word of the day!

;-)


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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On Apr 12, 10:34 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Depressedsatan

;-) It's too bad that you are feeling sad.

Quit getting so worked up and frustrated. Calm down.

Get some help.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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Apr 12, 2008, 9:03:58 PM4/12/08
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On Apr 12, 6:16 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/OAF

Are you feeling Oafish?

You can feel better if you behave differently.

Do you have any thoughts on how you might behave in order to feel
better?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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Apr 12, 2008, 9:45:26 PM4/12/08
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On Apr 12, 8:39 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts/Idioticsatan

Feeling idiotic tonight? Maybe you are acting idiotic. Do you think
you can change your feelings if you change your actions?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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Apr 13, 2008, 11:38:07 AM4/13/08
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On Apr 13, 5:07 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Why do you think you are feeling so imbecilic? What could you do
differently so that you would feel better about yourself?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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Apr 14, 2008, 9:30:51 AM4/14/08
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On Apr 13, 10:42 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Deadsatan

Are you obsessed with thoughts of death? Why do you think that is?

Are you trying to project death toward me? You have done that before,
many times, and it has not worked to your satisfaction.

Why do you think that is?

J666

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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 8:30:51 -0500, Mike Mordant wrote
(in message
<f2458041-22b5-46dd...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

> Why do you think that is?

The bigger question is does Chung think at all.

Mike Mordant

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On Apr 14, 8:58 am, J666 <j...@jmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 8:30:51 -0500, Mike Mordant wrote
> (in message
> <f2458041-22b5-46dd-8b6b-738b47c10...@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

>
> > Why do you think that is?
>
> The bigger question is does Chung think at all.

Good question.

In earlier less enlightened times, Dr. Chung would be said to be demon
possessed. He appears to be externally controlled and given to
delusions. He doesn't seem to think but simply emote, projecting his
feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness on others.

J666

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Apr 14, 2008, 10:57:12 AM4/14/08
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On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 9:24:11 -0500, Mike Mordant wrote
(in message
<ef66fdb3-32de-4cdd...@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>):

> He doesn't seem to think but simply emote, projecting his
> feelings of inadequacy and worthlessness on others.

It comes from Chung's "discerning" heart, quotes to him from the Holy Spirit
and him being the unique person in the whole wide world to know the will of
God.

Wonder if God needs a will in which He leaves everything to Chung?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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Apr 15, 2008, 1:06:05 PM4/15/08
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On Apr 14, 4:01 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Despairingsatan

There you go again. The despair is yours.

;-)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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On Apr 16, 5:07 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/DepressedSockPuppet

Andrew, we have been over this before. I am not Satan nor am I a sock
puppet. It is you who continue to show signs of depression,
frustration and delusion. You must seek help soon.

J666

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On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 8:12:03 -0500, Mike Mordant wrote
(in message
<e63035fa-c186-4fe5...@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

> nor am I a sock
> puppet.

"Sock it to me." Rowan and Martin

Mike Mordant

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On Apr 16, 8:20 am, J666 <j...@jmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 8:12:03 -0500, Mike Mordant wrote
> (in message
> <e63035fa-c186-4fe5-af6a-d3634f054...@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Mike Mordant

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On Apr 16, 4:52 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/CrazySockPuppets

You are only making things worse for yourself.

Father Haskell

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It's time to summon a professional.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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cactus

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Apr 17, 2008, 1:35:27 AM4/17/08
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It wasn't Goldie Hawn, it was Judy Carne.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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Apr 17, 2008, 5:51:55 AM4/17/08
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cactus wrote:
> satan via a sockpuppet (corporeal demon) despairingly posted:

> >> "Sock it to me." Rowan and Martin
>

> > Re: Andrew Chung is all wet. As wet as Goldie Hawn after she said "Sock it to me!"


>
> It wasn't Goldie Hawn, it was Judy Carne.

Simply shows that he is indeed:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Erroneoussatan

<><

http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren

Mike Mordant

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Apr 17, 2008, 8:31:27 AM4/17/08
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On Apr 16, 11:06 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/Insanesatan
>
> <><
>
> http://HeartMDPhD.com/ChristianBrethren

;-) Correcting your typo - Your name is spelled C H U N G not S A T
A N

Mike Mordant

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Apr 17, 2008, 8:32:03 AM4/17/08
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Damn - your are right ----

Mike Mordant

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Apr 17, 2008, 8:37:32 AM4/17/08
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On Apr 17, 4:51 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

;-) Nope and unlike you I can admit to a mistake.

And it took someone else to point it out.

Missed that with your discerning heart did you?
That's where you wind up being right less that an broken clock.

cactus

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Apr 18, 2008, 12:45:40 AM4/18/08
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Mike Mordant wrote:
> On Apr 17, 12:35 am, cactus <cac...@nonespam.com> wrote:
>> Mike Mordant wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 8:20 am, J666 <j...@jmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 8:12:03 -0500, Mike Mordant wrote
>>>> (in message
>>>> <e63035fa-c186-4fe5-af6a-d3634f054...@a23g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>):
>>>>> nor am I a sock
>>>>> puppet.
>>>> "Sock it to me." Rowan and Martin
>> It wasn't Goldie Hawn, it was Judy Carne.
>
> Damn - your are right ----

It dates me to say I watched the show every week. Haven't followed one
that closely since.

BTW, Judy Carne struck a major blow for feminism when she was denied
entry to a restarant for wearing a pantsuit. She went to the ladies
room and removed them. Upon her return, she checked the pants, wearing
only the top, which seemed to have been equivalent to a microminiskirt.

It pretty much destroyed the prohibitions on pantsuits for women.

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

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