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Timothy Murphy

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Sep 22, 2009, 1:31:22 PM9/22/09
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I was looking at <http://groups.google.com/group/open_math>
but there seemed surprisingly few posts to me.

At the same time, the nonsense/sense ratio on sci.math
seems to have got even higher, if that is possible.
Several of the people one could rely on to say something sensible
seem to have disappeared, or at least got quieter.
Have they finally been extinguished by the sheer weight of garbage?

I find it quite difficult to steer through google groups,
though I suppose that is just a matter of getting used to them.


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Larry Hammick

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Sep 22, 2009, 2:14:18 PM9/22/09
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"Timothy Murphy" <gayl...@eircom.net> wrote in message
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>I was looking at <http://groups.google.com/group/open_math>
> but there seemed surprisingly few posts to me.

Jump in. Only total nonsense and obvious crankery get deleted. I haven't had
to delete anything at all yet.

> At the same time, the nonsense/sense ratio on sci.math
> seems to have got even higher, if that is possible.
> Several of the people one could rely on to say something sensible
> seem to have disappeared, or at least got quieter.
> Have they finally been extinguished by the sheer weight of garbage?

In some cases, I fear so.

>
> I find it quite difficult to steer through google groups,
> though I suppose that is just a matter of getting used to them.


The interface isn't perfect, it is true. But the price is right. :)

Larry < benevolent dictator of the open_math Google group


Aatu Koskensilta

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Sep 22, 2009, 2:33:40 PM9/22/09
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"Larry Hammick" <larryh...@telus.net> writes:

> "Timothy Murphy" <gayl...@eircom.net> wrote in message
> news:aS7um.30138$j7.4...@news.indigo.ie...
>

>> I find it quite difficult to steer through google groups,
>> though I suppose that is just a matter of getting used to them.
>
> The interface isn't perfect, it is true. But the price is right. :)

The interface is God-awful. It being free is not much of a consolation.

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Cliff Bott

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Sep 22, 2009, 9:48:14 PM9/22/09
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About a month ago the question was asked as to whether there would be
support for a moderated version of sci.math (as a usenet group). This was
posted by William Elliott. A group of about 7 sci.math users has
volunteered to be moderators of such a group and an informal request for
discussion was subsequently posted here, at news.groups and at
news.groups.proposals. This were followed by some discussion of the pros
and cons.

At the moment the proponents have secured an offer from a university to
provide the hardware to host a new newsgroup, and we are looking at software
options. This will be followed by a formal proposal to the 'big-8' (who
manage the sci.* hierarchy) via a post here and on news.groups.proposals..

One of the possible downsides identified to forming a moderated usenet group
is that it might split the base of constructive posters between the two
groups, and could leave both groups with a base of posters insufficient to
sustain them. On the other hand a moderated group might bring back
constructive posters who have, to use your words, disappeared or got
quieter. We will just have to see what support the formal request for
discussion for a moderated group receives from the sci.math users when it is
posted.

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Rogério Brito

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Oct 7, 2009, 12:26:54 PM10/7/09
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Hi.

On Sep 22 2009, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Several of the people one could rely on to say something sensible
> seem to have disappeared, or at least got quieter.

I sincerely hope not. If is there anything that I can answer, I will
possibly do.

Of course, I don't know if I am one of "the people one could rely on".

> Have they finally been extinguished by the sheer weight of garbage?

The problem seems to be that people are feeding the trolls. Just let us
get on with the Mathematics and ignore the posts we don't care about.

I'm doing that and it is easy enough (I'm just replying to this one, but
I'll refrain from any other polemical topic). People have always done
so for many years in many newsgroups. I can't see why we live a special
period in any way.

> I find it quite difficult to steer through google groups,
> though I suppose that is just a matter of getting used to them.

I sincerely hope that the Usenet structure lives on.


Regards,

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