> > On Dec 31 2009, 9:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > On Dec 31, 2:00 pm, PD  the *collective* body
> > > > of experimental evidence that determines which theory is the most
> > > > successful. Choosing one experiment that permits both explanations and
> > > > then insisting that only your favorite is the favored one is
> > > > scientific fraud.

> > > > > > However,
> > > > > > relativity does not rest on the MMX as its sole experimental support.

> > > > > 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

> > > > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
> > > > > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places"

> > > > > The state of the aether is its state of displacement and entrainment.

> > > > > > You need to check what other experimental work has been done to test
> > > > > > not only relativity, but other models that are consistent with a
> > > > > > subset of the data that relativity also matches.
> > > > > > The problem is that relativity is the only model so far that
> > > > > > accurately predicts ALL the experimental results.

> > > > > Yes, but it is not a physical explanation.

> > > > It is perfectly physical. You perhaps have a disagreement with
> > > > physicists about what "physical" means.

> > > > > Time is a concept. SR (and
> > > > > its incorrect train gedanken) and GR are mathematical theories

> > > > No, they are PHYSICAL theories.

> > > SR, GR, and QM are not physical explanations of nature. They are
> > > mathematical representations of nature.

> > > Your dogma makes you insist a 'wave function probability' is nature.

> > > > > describing the aether pressure
> > > > Since SR and GR dispense with aether as something that exerts pressure
> > > > on anything, it is difficult to say that SR and GR describe aether
> > > > pressure. Now, it's plain that AD is a theory that describes aether
> > > > pressure, but AD doesn't have anything to do with SR and GR, does it?

> > > AD is a physical representation of SR, GR, and QM, but again, your
> > > dogma doesn't allow you to understand anything but what you have been
> > > indoctrinated into believing.

> > > You will never understand time is a concept and a 'wave function
> > > probability' is not nature.

> > ---------------------------
> > i fully agree with your last sentence !!!

> > 2
> > if you will replace  your' Aether pressure'    with
> > **Circlon pressure**  i will be with you   !!!

> > ATB
> > Y.Porat
> > -----------------------------------

> If by Circlon Pressure you are referring to:

> http://www.circlon-theory.com/index.html

> Then I have to disagree with you. 'Their' explanation of gravity:

> http://www.circlon-theory.com/HTML/gravitation.html

> seems too different than what I am describing.

> In terms of the apple falling on Newton's head, the AD explanation of
> this is the matter which is the apple displaces the aether which would
> otherwise exist where the apple is and the Earth displaces the aether
> which would otherwise exist where the matter which is the Earth is.
> The apple displaces the aether to infinity, but it is like dropping a
> bowling ball into the ocean. Where does the bowling ball 'stop'
> displacing the ocean?

> When the apple breaks free from the tree, the aether pressure
> associated with the aether displaced by the Earth and the aether
> pressure associated with the aether displaced by the apple push the
> Earth and the apple towards one another, but for all practical
> purposes, it is only the aether pressure associated with the aether
> displaced by the Earth that is pushing the apple towards the Earth.