Newsgroups: sci.logic, sci.math
From: Zuhair <zaljo...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:12:01 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 14 2012 2:12 am
Subject: Re: Cantor's first proof in DETAILS
On Nov 14, 12:45 am, "LudovicoVan" <ju...@diegidio.name> wrote:
> "Zuhair" <zaljo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Now I think I'm beginning to somewhat perhaps understand your
> news:3929e6b6-2932-401d-ba0a-0a440bb18277@y6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...> On Nov 13, 11:16 pm, Uirgil <uir...@uirgil.ur> wrote:
> <snip>
> >> Your alleged argument against the Cantor proof does not work against
> > I showed in the Corollary that even if he use N* as the domain of
> You are simply missing the point there: we don't need N* to disprove Cantor,
> -LV
argument. I think (I'm not sure though) that what you want to say is that when we are having arguments with "LIMITS" then we must design the whole argument such that the Limit comes from the sequence, and if this design was not made then the argument is inherently deficient as far as the truth of inferences derived from it is concerned. So what you are trying to say is that Cantor's argument began with incomplete arsenal so it ended up with misleading inferences. You are making an argument at TRUTH level of the matter, and yet it is concerned with formal technicality as well, which is an argument beyond the strict formal technicality. Anyhow if I'm correct, this form of reasoning for it to stand the
What you are having is the following:
[1]When we use N as the domain of injections (x_n), (a_n) and (b_n),
[2]When we use N* as the domain of injections (x_n), (a_n) and (b_n),
[3]However we also have the corollary that even when we use N* as the
Now you call [1] deficient, [2] apt to reality standards [3] bogus.
Why? because we used N in an argument that involves a higher order
But again: why? what is the higher order part of the argument that you
Is it the definition of Limit.
But limit is defined in this argument as the least upper bound, and I
Should I adopt this rational of yours then I'd ask you: why not say
Or you'll say that {-1,0,2,3,...} is also a kind of high order
Your argument is simply shunning one of the most important two sets in
Zuhair
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