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Jesse F. Hughes  
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 More options Nov 18 2012, 9:23 pm
Newsgroups: sci.logic, sci.math
From: "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@phiwumbda.org>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:19:39 -0500
Local: Sun, Nov 18 2012 9:19 pm
Subject: Re: Matheology S 152
To Virgil:

Why the fuck do you keep changing your "From:" line?

You are no better than the trolls to whom you reply.  If someone wants
to killfile you (and Lord knows there are reasons), then fucking well
let them.

Escaping killfiles by morphing your From line is despicable, son.

--
Jesse F. Hughes
"And a journal can beg me for the right to publish it [...] because
I'd rather see it in "People" magazine [...]"
     --James Harris on his simple proof of Fermat's last theorem


 
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Virgil  
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 More options Nov 18 2012, 11:48 pm
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From: Virgil <vir...@ligriv.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 21:48:19 -0700
Local: Sun, Nov 18 2012 11:48 pm
Subject: Re: Matheology S 152
In article <87k3titjus.fsf...@phiwumbda.org>,
 "Jesse F. Hughes" <je...@phiwumbda.org> wrote:

> To Virgil:

> Why the fuck do you keep changing your "From:" line?

> You are no better than the trolls to whom you reply.  If someone wants
> to killfile you (and Lord knows there are reasons), then fucking well
> let them.

Sorry!

I try to remember not to do it in what should be serious NG's like this
sci.logic and sci.math, but only in ones like alt.atheism where
creatinists try to ignore us atheists.
--


 
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Discussion subject changed to "Matheology § 152" by WM
WM  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 1:50 am
Newsgroups: sci.logic, sci.math
From: WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:50:18 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 1:50 am
Subject: Re: Matheology § 152
On 19 Nov., 01:10, Vurgil <Vur...@arg.erg> wrote:

It is clear to every sufficiently intelligent reader.

> And without knowing that, no limit can possibly be determined.

> Now if is just that "1/((((((10^0)/10)+10^1)/10)+10^2)/10)+ " is
> sufficiently ambiguous that Cauchy and Cantor disagree on what the
> finite sequences are which leads to this expression, I am not at all
> surprized.-

Thank you for implicitly confessing that you do not see a way how the
set theoretical limit { } of the indices of the integer-digits in

> > 0_2 1_1 .
> > 0_2 . 1_1
> > 0_4 1_3 0_2 . 1_1
> > 0_4 1_3 . 0_2 1_1
> > 0_6 1_5 0_4 1_3 . 0_2 1_1
> > 0_6 1_5 0_4 . 1_3 0_2 1_1
> > 0_8 1_7 0_6 1_5 0_4 . 1_3 0_2 1_1
> > 0_8 1_7 0_6 1_5 . 0_4 1_3 0_2 1_1
> > ...

can be avoided or how the application of set theory in calculating the
limit can be interpreted as "another" limit.

Regards, WM


 
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WM  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 1:52 am
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From: WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:52:45 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 1:52 am
Subject: Re: Matheology § 152
On 19 Nov., 01:14, Vurgil <Vur...@arg.erg> wrote:

> I see no reason to suppose that the expression is well enough defined to
> have anything like a unique limit.
> If it is  expressible as the limit of a sequence at all, then show us
> the terms of such a sequence.- Zitierten Text ausblenden -

Here you are:
> > 01.
> > 0.1
> > 010.1
> > 01.01
> > 0101.01
> > 010.101
> > 01010.101
> > 0101.0101
> > ...

Is this in fact more difficult to grasp than, say, the Conway
sequence? Should I be proud for that reason?

Regards, WM


 
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Vurgil  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 4:40 pm
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From: Vurgil <Vur...@arg.erg>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:40:49 -0700
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 4:40 pm
Subject: Re: Matheology § 152
In article
<f2d00db5-e13a-47d9-a2f2-3c82ae5d5...@y6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,

It is STILL not at all clear that the sequence you indicated has any
limit according to any standard definition of limit of a sequence.

What definition (with a URL which will verify its authenticity) do you
propose to use on your sequence


 
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Vurgil  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 4:49 pm
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From: Vurgil <Vur...@arg.erg>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 14:49:40 -0700
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 4:49 pm
Subject: Re: Matheology § 152
In article
<4304750f-ea45-46e7-80bc-1afe4c131...@o30g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>,

Does WW now claim that

   1/((((((10^0)/10)+10^1)/10)+10^2)/10)+

somehow produces the sequence
    0_2 1_1 .
    0_2 . 1_1
    0_4 1_3 0_2 . 1_1
    0_4 1_3 . 0_2 1_1
    0_6 1_5 0_4 1_3 . 0_2 1_1
    0_6 1_5 0_4 . 1_3 0_2 1_1
    0_8 1_7 0_6 1_5 0_4 . 1_3 0_2 1_1
    0_8 1_7 0_6 1_5 . 0_4 1_3 0_2 1_1
    ...
?

And I certainly DO see ways how WM's nonsense can be avoided.

A simple PLONK would do it, but I find more amusement in seeing WMs
struggles to maintain what little sanity he has left and still support
the insupportable.


 
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