easy experiment to prove charge is the dual of mass #173 New Physics #307 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed

[Archimedes Plutonium]

On Feb 12, 1:28 am, Archimedes Plutonium
<plutonium.archime...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> > > Are electrons bound to atoms in shells or as uncollapsed particles?
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> > That is the interface between charge as mass and mass as charge
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> Let me talk some more about the above for it is difficult to grasp,
> even
> those in physics. In the Double Slit Experiment what we learn is that
> a
> electron is both a particle and a wave, but when we measure it, it
> comes
> fully as one and not the other. It comes either as 100% wave or either
> as
> 100% particle.
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> Now the reason duality is incomprehensible to human minds is the same
> reason that it is incomprehensible that a plutonium atom held in one's
> hand
> is the same as the total Universe which is a plutonium atom. In other
> words
> scale is all lost. Science and physics are far above what the human
> mind
> can understand and comprehend, and so we make piecemeal progress, in
> understanding a little piece at a time. We come to understand that a
> electron
> is a particle and a wave but when we measure it, it is not both at
> once but only
> one of them at once.
>
> Now we have electrons with a mass of 0.5 MeV and a charge of -1. In
> Old Physics
> we assumed an electron always had both a charge of -1 and a mass of
> 0.5MeV simultaneously
> in every measurement. Likewise we assumed a proton had a mass of 938
> MeV and a
> charge of +1 simultaneously. But why should we believe that to be the
> case when an electron
> in measure is either 100% particle with 0% wave or 100% wave with 0%
> particle?
>
> We should not carry that hideous assumption into physics, but rather,
> like particle wave
> duality think of charge as a form of mass and that when an electron is
> inside a atom it has
> no charge only mass and when outside the atom it has charge but no
> mass.
>
> Now does that make any difference to Physics in general? It makes a
> huge difference because now we explain how particles gain mass and not
> be some fantasy fairy tale of a Higgs mechanism field. That mass is
> just form of charge inside an atom and outside the atom, the mass is
> charge.
>
> It also means that mass-gravity of Newton and General Relativity are
> bunk, and that gravity
> is only the charge differential between two bodies in motion as
> Faraday's law.
>

In the Double Slit Experiment with the Complementarity Principle, we
know that a electron is both a particle and a wave, however, in any
experiment we perform we only derive particle at 100% with 0% wave and
vice versa.

It does not have anything to do with the fact of measuring, isolates
one trait and deletes the other trait as so many novices of physics
think.

What it has to do with is the fact of Scale of the Universe. Quantum
Mechanics with duality is a scale factor, so that a single electron
has a wave that stretches across the entire Cosmos, and has a particle
to represent that electron as a point charge of -1. So as we set up
the Double Slit and look for a wave aspect, we find it, but we do not
see any particle in that wave. We then look for a electron as a
particle and we find it, but we have no wave.

Likewise, we look at a plutonium atom in our hand and it is so tiny
that we need a special microscope tunnel scanning to see it, yet the
entire Cosmos itself is a single big plutonium atom. It is a scale
problem and that is why
Quantum Mechanics is so strange and difficult. In the Double Slit of
an electron we have to scale across the entire Cosmos for the wave of
that electron, and for the particle we have to scale to a tiny
subatomic particle of an electron.

Now we focus on charge dual to mass. Duality in Quantum Mechanics is
existence. Everything in QM is dual paired of particle to wave, of
time to energy, of charge to mass to name a few pairs.

Now let us prove mass is the dual of charge, and we cannot use the
Double Slit for this experiment. I think this experiment has already
been proven true
by vast numbers of observations of electrons and protons.

EXPERIMENT:

We want to prove that an electron or proton has charge outside the
atom and no mass, and inside the atom it has mass but no charge. That
is a daunting task. But I think it has already been proven many times
over.

Description of Experiment: We have a magnetic field of precision
monitoring and we set a proton or proton beam into that magnetic field
and look for the angle of deflection. Since the proton has a +1 charge
yet a mass of about 938 MeV that the angle of deflection should be
smaller than the angle of deflection of an electron with -1 charge
and mass of 0.3 MeV. Of course the angle of deflection are opposite
for the proton and electron but because the proton has that huge
amount of mass it should deflect less, for we know that mass is an
impedance to acceleration.

Observation: I am not certain of this, but I think the experimental
results have already been seen many times over around the world in
science laboratories that the angle of deflection is the same for both
the proton then the electron. They are symmetrical in the deflection
track, yet the proton has a huge amount of mass.

Interpretation: If I am correct on those results, then the
interpretation is that charge is the dual of mass and that no proton
and no electron has both charge and mass simultaneously. That the
proton and electron found outside an atom has only charge and no mass.
The proton and electron that reside inside an atom has only mass, and
no charge.

Tell me if this experiment has already been performed and the results
match what I just talked about. In fact, CERN of LHC could probably do
the above experiment every day of the week.

Archimedes Plutonium
http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium/
whole entire Universe is just one big atom
where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

[Archimedes Plutonium]

On Feb 12, 4:14 am, Archimedes Plutonium

I do not know, just guessing here, so I need verification.

I am guessing that the tracks in the bubble chamber of protons versus
electrons are the
same tracks, except in opposite symmetry, so that the mass is
irrelevant to the tracks.

The only picture I have so far is the one on page 1133 of PHYSICS,
part 2, extended version
Halliday & Resnick, 1986.

--- quoting page 1133 caption of Bubble Chamber tracks ---
The tracks are lines of bubbles left by charged elementary particles,
such as protons, as they move through the chamber. How can such tracks
be associated with waves? (Lawrence Berkeley
Laboratory, University of California).
--- end quoting ---

What I am doing here is conjecturing that charge is the duality of
mass, and that is like particle the duality of wave. So that in any
experiment, we see only 100% of one and 0% of the other. In the Double
Slit, when we look for wave, we get only wave and no particle.

So to proof my claim, I need to show in an experiment such as the
Bubble Chamber, that as you look at a track of a proton and compare
with an electron track, that they are identical except in opposite
directions. That means the mass of the proton 938.5 MeV versus the
mass of the electron 0.5 MeV do not enter the track at all. This means
that the proton never has simultaneously both mass and charge at once,
(ditto for the electron). This means that the proton and electron have
mass only when they are bound in an atom.

So what I need is Bubble Chamber verification or I need CERN
accelerator verification. This means that the track of a muon versus
an electron are the same tracks also, due to both having
the same -1 charge. Only when the experiment looks for mass, can we
distinguish mass, but no charge.

This makes sense, because, well, otherwise we should not have a Double
Slit Experiment of its
confusing end results. It is just that in Old Physics, no-one had
enough logical abilities to extend the particle wave duality to that
of charge versus mass.

The end conclusions from seeing that the proton and electron have
identical tracks, yet opposite in direction, is the conclusion that no
mass-gravity exists and that gravity is a charge differential
between two objects in motion. Another conclusion is that the stupid
and silly Standard Model of
physics is all ruined and worthless, because when charge is the dual
of mass, we no longer have
a desire to peg mass to some stupid and silly Higgs mechanism of
fantasy land physics.

So, please tell me, because bubble chamber photo tracks of the
electron and proton are not easily shown on the Internet. Please tell
me if the track of an electron is identical to proton, except in
opposite directions.

This also would increase our understanding of Magnetism. I never
really liked the 20th century explanation of a permanent bar magnet,
did you? What was missing is why so permanent when
we see everything else in the world around us quickly decay in energy,
yet this bar magnet is
permanent. Well, if mass and charge are dualities, then the better
explanation of a permanent bar magnet is that a electron or proton in
a lodestone would occasionally trade its internal masses for that of
charge and thus have an overall charge differential. So that when an
electron is bound in an iron atom, it is all mass, but when it
occasionally pops out of the lodestone for a brief moment
it turns that mass into charge of -1 and many electrons and protons in
the lodestone pop out occasionally given the lodestone this permanent
bar magnet status.

Can someone please refer to a Bubble Chamber track or other track of
an electron versus proton to see if they are identical except in
direction.

[Archimedes Plutonium]

I maybe in luck here with a photo showing that the electron bubble
track is identical to the proton
bubble track only difference is symmetry.

http://frank.mtsu.edu/~phys3110/Homework/HW/Extra_12_A/Analysis_of_Bubble_Chamber_Photo.pdf

Analysis of a bubble chamber picture. Introduction, Elementary
particles are everywhere
around us

If I am not mistaken the author of that photo shows a proton track and
next to it is an electron
track, both identical and if we draw a straightline down the middle of
both we end up with symmetry of tracks for both proton and electron,
even though the proton is 938 MeV yet the electron is 0.5MeV.

So what that proves is the proton and electron can never have
simultaneously both charge and mass at once. They either have mass and
no charge or have charge and no mass at any given
instant of time. The same quantum mechanical behaviour of the particle
versus wave.

Unless I am mistaken, the above photo proves my claim.

Now I would like to see a track of a muon versus a electron and they
should be almost identical
save for a line of symmetry. In other words, the mass of the muon has
no role in the track.