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Riley Corninget

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Sep 12, 2005, 8:15:36 PM9/12/05
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I think math was just created to torture innocent children and
teenagers.Yes, math gives me headaches and math is painful for me and I
think math should be outlawed, because it's painful, inhumane torture.

Ouch.


Devan L

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Sep 12, 2005, 8:44:17 PM9/12/05
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A good sign that your argument doesn't do much to back itself up is
that I can change things and it sounds just as logical.

Observe.

"I think Riley Corninget was just created to torture innocent children
and
teenagers.Riley Corninget, math gives me headaches and listening to
Riley Corninget is painful for me and I think Riley Corninget's
existence should be outlawed, because it's painful, inhumane torture.

Ow."


But seriously, when you come up with something to back up your
statement, I'll be listening.

Jim Spriggs

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Sep 12, 2005, 9:28:52 PM9/12/05
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Riley Corninget wrote:
>
> I think math was just created to torture innocent children

An example of Mathematical torture would be a Procrustean stretch

x' = ax
y' = y/a.

--
I don't know who you are Sir, or where you come from,
but you've done me a power of good.

Jim Spriggs

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Sep 12, 2005, 9:30:58 PM9/12/05
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Devan L wrote:
>
> Riley Corninget wrote:
> > I think math was just created to torture innocent children and
> > teenagers.Yes, math gives me headaches and math is painful for me and I
> > think math should be outlawed, because it's painful, inhumane torture.
> >
> > Ouch.
>
> A good sign that your argument doesn't do much to back itself up is
> that I can change things and it sounds just as logical.

Here's an argument that's valid:

From A and B one can deduce A or B.

Let's change things:

From A or B one can deduce A and B. (*)

Let's change some other things:

From P and Q one can deduce P or Q. (**)

(**) is valid because I only changed the variables and introduced no
clashes when I did so. In (*) I changed the logical constants, which is
not allowed.

So the question arises: what is a logical constant? I don't know.

>
> Observe.
>
> "I think Riley Corninget was just created to torture innocent children
> and
> teenagers.Riley Corninget, math gives me headaches and listening to
> Riley Corninget is painful for me and I think Riley Corninget's
> existence should be outlawed, because it's painful, inhumane torture.
>
> Ow."
>
> But seriously, when you come up with something to back up your
> statement, I'll be listening.

Proginoskes

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Sep 12, 2005, 9:52:09 PM9/12/05
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Gee, that's my opinion on Phys Ed ...

--- Christopher Heckman

Devan L

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Sep 12, 2005, 10:13:17 PM9/12/05
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Jim Spriggs wrote:

> Devan L wrote:
> > A good sign that your argument doesn't do much to back itself up is
> > that I can change things and it sounds just as logical.
>
> Here's an argument that's valid:
>
> From A and B one can deduce A or B.
>
> Let's change things:
>
> From A or B one can deduce A and B. (*)
>
> Let's change some other things:
>
> From P and Q one can deduce P or Q. (**)
>
> (**) is valid because I only changed the variables and introduced no
> clashes when I did so. In (*) I changed the logical constants, which is
> not allowed.
>
> So the question arises: what is a logical constant? I don't know.

Well, if I said "I think all people who eat kumquats are evil.
Therefore we should line them up against the wall and shoot them." you
could very easily replace "people who eat kumquats" with something
else. He didn't provide any evidence. He did nothing but state his
opinion.

> An example of Mathematical torture would be a Procrustean stretch
>
> x' = ax
> y' = y/a.

What is supposed to be solved for?

Gerry Myerson

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Sep 12, 2005, 10:53:17 PM9/12/05
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In article <dg55ne$k5d$1...@domitilla.aioe.org>,
"Riley Corninget" <spam...@burninhell.com> wrote:

> I think math was just created to torture innocent children and
> teenagers.

I think children and teenagers were created just to torture math,
so we're even.

--
Gerry Myerson (ge...@maths.mq.edi.ai) (i -> u for email)

Proginoskes

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Sep 13, 2005, 2:31:19 AM9/13/05
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Gerry Myerson wrote:
> In article <dg55ne$k5d$1...@domitilla.aioe.org>,
> "Riley Corninget" <spam...@burninhell.com> wrote:
>
> > I think math was just created to torture innocent children and
> > teenagers.
>
> I think children and teenagers were created just to torture math,
> so we're even.

Maybe that's the sole purpose of some of my students ... 8-)

--- Christopher Heckman

mathedman

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Sep 13, 2005, 10:15:19 AM9/13/05
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And you are clearly an idiot without the guts to give a valid e-mail
address
! Without math ---
How can you tell what is the best price amoung varied prices?
How would you compute interest on a loan?
How would one put an object in orbit or on the moon?
There would be NO physics, no engineers, no ability to construct safe
bridges, and on and on and on.
You don't think very much do you?

David McAnally

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Sep 13, 2005, 10:52:17 AM9/13/05
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math...@hotmail.CUT.com (mathedman) writes:

Nor would there be a computer for Riley Corninget to write his complaints
on, if there was no maths.

> You don't think very much do you?

-----

Jim Spriggs

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Sep 13, 2005, 12:29:59 PM9/13/05
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Devan L wrote:

> > An example of Mathematical torture would be a Procrustean stretch
> >
> > x' = ax
> > y' = y/a.
>
> What is supposed to be solved for?

Nothing. It is a transformation of the plane: x becomes ax, y becomes
y/a. It's a joke, look up Procrustes in a classical dictionary.

Herman Rubin

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Sep 13, 2005, 3:20:04 PM9/13/05
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In article <1126576329.2...@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Proginoskes <CCHe...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree. Furthermore, what is taught to children and
teenagers is largely the memorization of procedures to
get answers, often without being able to understand the
questions.

But the most inhumane torture for bright children is to
have to sit through hours of the teacher, often without
the understanding of the child, giving a dumbed-down
presentation of what the child knows thoroughly.

--
This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
hru...@stat.purdue.edu Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558

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