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Rotwang

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Nov 5, 2008, 1:21:39 PM11/5/08
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Hi all

Does anybody know how to evaluate the limit as x -> 0 of

x^2 * Sum_{n = 1}^oo [n*exp(-n*x)/(1-exp(-2n*x))] ?

For reasons I won't go into (it's physics-related) it would be very
nice if the answer turned out to be pi^2/8, and based on numerical
evidence this appears to be true. But I have no idea how to prove it.

victor_me...@yahoo.co.uk

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Nov 5, 2008, 1:45:55 PM11/5/08
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Let q = exp(-x). Then
sum_{n=1}^infinity n q^n/(1-q^{2n})
= sum_{n=1}^infinity sum_{m=1}^infinity n q^{n(2m-1)}
= sum_{m=1}^infinity sum_{n=1}^infinity n q^{n(2m-1)}
= sum_{m=1}^infinity q^{2m-1}/(1 - q^{2m-1})^2.
As
x^2 q^{2m-1}/(1 - q^{2m-1})^2
= x^2 exp(-(2m-1)x)/(1 - exp(-(2m-1)x))^2 -> 1/(2m-1)^2
as x -> 0 the original limit is
sum_{m=1}^infinity 1/(2m-1)^2 = pi^2/8.

Victor Meldrew
"I don't believe it!"

Rotwang

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Nov 5, 2008, 2:57:58 PM11/5/08
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On 5 Nov, 18:45, victor_meldrew_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> On 5 Nov, 18:21, Rotwang <sg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Does anybody know how to evaluate the limit as x -> 0 of
>
> > x^2 * Sum_{n = 1}^oo [n*exp(-n*x)/(1-exp(-2n*x))] ?
>
> > For reasons I won't go into (it's physics-related) it would be very
> > nice if the answer turned out to be pi^2/8, and based on numerical
> > evidence this appears to be true. But I have no idea how to prove it.
>
> Let q = exp(-x). Then
>   sum_{n=1}^infinity n q^n/(1-q^{2n})
> = sum_{n=1}^infinity sum_{m=1}^infinity n q^{n(2m-1)}
> = sum_{m=1}^infinity sum_{n=1}^infinity n q^{n(2m-1)}
> = sum_{m=1}^infinity q^{2m-1}/(1 - q^{2m-1})^2.

OK...

> As
>   x^2 q^{2m-1}/(1 - q^{2m-1})^2
> = x^2 exp(-(2m-1)x)/(1 - exp(-(2m-1)x))^2 -> 1/(2m-1)^2
> as x -> 0 the original limit is
> sum_{m=1}^infinity 1/(2m-1)^2 = pi^2/8.

Very nice, thanks. One step I'm not sure about though - how do you
show that the sum over m commutes with the limit x->0 in this case?

W^3

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Nov 5, 2008, 5:41:29 PM11/5/08
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In article
<de072f85-325d-41eb...@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
Rotwang <sg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Let h = -(2m-1)x and write the mth term as [h^2*e^h/(1 -
e^h)^2]*(1/(2m-1)^2). Then show the term is brackets is bounded on R.
You can then use the Weierstrass M test to see the sum is uniformly
convergent for x in a neighborhood of 0. This allows interchange of
limit and sum.

Rotwang

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Nov 5, 2008, 8:09:33 PM11/5/08
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On 5 Nov, 22:41, W^3 <aderamey.a...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <de072f85-325d-41eb-a438-19012c740...@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,

Thanks. I will probably be using this result in my PhD thesis - do you
have a real name so I can acknowledge you? The same question goes to
Victor.

W^3

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Nov 5, 2008, 8:40:21 PM11/5/08
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In article
<c7f28bc9-2b8d-4c0c...@1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Rotwang <sg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

How about "W^3 from sci.math"?

W^3

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Nov 5, 2008, 8:54:01 PM11/5/08
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In article
<c7f28bc9-2b8d-4c0c...@1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Rotwang <sg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

By the way, the above is better stated as: Show that h^2*e^h/(1 -
e^h)^2 is bounded on R. This implies there exists C such that the mth
term is bounded by C/(2m-1)^2, m = 1, 2, ... etc.

Rotwang

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Nov 5, 2008, 9:41:53 PM11/5/08
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On 6 Nov, 01:40, W^3 <aderamey.a...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c7f28bc9-2b8d-4c0c-8df6-518afb1ee...@1g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>  Rotwang <sg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [...]

>
> > Thanks. I will probably be using this result in my PhD thesis - do you
> > have a real name so I can acknowledge you? The same question goes to
> > Victor.
>
> How about "W^3 from sci.math"?

Sure.

victor_me...@yahoo.co.uk

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Nov 6, 2008, 5:59:22 AM11/6/08
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On 5 Nov, 19:57, Rotwang <sg...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Let q = exp(-x). Then
> > sum_{n=1}^infinity n q^n/(1-q^{2n})
> > = sum_{n=1}^infinity sum_{m=1}^infinity n q^{n(2m-1)}
> > = sum_{m=1}^infinity sum_{n=1}^infinity n q^{n(2m-1)}
> > = sum_{m=1}^infinity q^{2m-1}/(1 - q^{2m-1})^2.
>
> OK...
>
> > As
> > x^2 q^{2m-1}/(1 - q^{2m-1})^2
> > = x^2 exp(-(2m-1)x)/(1 - exp(-(2m-1)x))^2 -> 1/(2m-1)^2
> > as x -> 0 the original limit is
> > sum_{m=1}^infinity 1/(2m-1)^2 = pi^2/8.
>
> Very nice, thanks. One step I'm not sure about though - how do you
> show that the sum over m commutes with the limit x->0 in this case?

I was leaving that to you...but as an exercise show that the original
limit equals lim_{x->0+) of
sum_{k odd} (sinh x/2)^2/(sinh kx/2)^2
which is uniformly convergent since
(sinh y)/(sinh ky) <= 1/k.

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