Given one rectangular sheet of paper of dimensions 8.5"x11.0", I want to cut out two identical squares that are as large as possible. (Obiously, they cannot overlap. Also, no gluing, taping, etc. is allowed.) Can I do better than 5.5"? If not, can you prove it? If so, what is the best I can do, and how?
Just off the top of my head 5.5" is not optimal. You can do at least 7 2/3 " by putting two squares of that size next to each other and turning them so that the diagonals of each square run H & V.
In article <9...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> ph600...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Sir Six) writes:
> Given one rectangular sheet of paper of dimensions 8.5"x11.0", >I want to cut out two identical squares that are as large as >possible. (Obiously, they cannot overlap. Also, no gluing, taping, >etc. is allowed.) Can I do better than 5.5"? If not, can you prove >it? If so, what is the best I can do, and how?
>Sir Six
I believe that 5.5" is the maximum dimension for the squares. Consider the center point of the paper. Every solution to the problem (two identical squares) can be made to be symmetric about that point.
But by observation with a 5.5" square, the only suitable solution occurs when the square is parallel to the paper, so a larger square will not work.
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In article <9...@sdcc6.ucsd.edu> ph600...@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Sir Six) writes: > Given one rectangular sheet of paper of dimensions 8.5"x11.0", > I want to cut out two identical squares that are as large as > possible. (Obiously, they cannot overlap. Also, no gluing, taping, > etc. is allowed.) Can I do better than 5.5"? If not, can you prove > it? If so, what is the best I can do, and how?
> Sir Six
Let the paper be ABCD (AB < BC), draw lines at 45 degree from A and C these intersect the median of the paper parallel to AB at E and F (see the fig.) ^ X| | |\ | | \<-separator line B-----+-----C | \ | |/ /| | \ E | E/ / | | \/ | /| / | |... /\ | / | / | | /. \ | / |/ | | / . \ | / /F | | / . \ |/ /| | |/ . \Y A-----+-----D A----------------------
If two squares are cut from the paper, there is a line which separates them. W.l.o.g we may assume that this line has a common point with the ray AB starting at A. (If it is parallel to AB, then at least on part is too small to have a square of size 5,5".) This means that the line must have a common point either with segment AE or with segment CF. Suppose again that this is AE. In this case one of the squares lies entirely inside the rectangular triangle AXY. Now it is easy to check that the biggest square inside a rectangular triangle is the one with two sides at the rectangular corner (shown by dots), thus its diagonal is part of AE, therefore has length < AE. Consequently the side of the square cannot be > 5.5", QED.
The same idea can be used to prove that if the unit square contains two disjoint squares with sides a and b, then a+b<=1.
Problem: Which is the smallest square into which all the squares with sides 1, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5, ... can be packed without overlapping?
In article <Aa88F1m00Ws9Q3t...@andrew.cmu.edu> rf...@andrew.cmu.edu (Randolph James Finder) writes:
>Just off the top of my head 5.5" is not optimal. You can do at least 7 >2/3 " by putting two squares of that size next to each other and >turning them so that the diagonals of each square run H & V.
>"And yet I would give it all up to be human" - Lt. Cmdr Data
This would be a wondrous solution indeed.
The area of an 8.5x11 piece of paper is 93.5;
The area of 2 7 2/3 sided squares is 117 5/9.
I believe that the original question is equivalent to "what is the largest square that will fit into a trapzeoid constructed by drawing a (straight) line through the center of an 8.5x11 rectangle." Among other limits, such a square certainly cannot have a side longer than hypot(5.5, 4.25), which is 7.10633...
-- John Sahr, | Electrical Engineering - Space Plasma Physics jo...@alfven.spp.cornell.edu | Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853
Help!!! I'd like a short proof if possible that the sign of a permutation is really well-defined, i.e., that any element which is a product of an even number of interchanges is not the product of an odd number.
Please DON'T give me a proof that says "just take the determinant of the matrix of zeros and ones representing the permutation" unless you have a definition of the determinant that doesn't depend on the sign of a permutation being well-defined!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I.e., no circular arguments please.
And can you do it by tomorrow morning????
No, this is not a homework problem!!!!!!!! I'M TEACHING THE COURSE.
Therefore, tau \in S_n cannot have representations as both an even and an odd number of transpostions, for in the first case the action would change the sign of p, and in the second case it would not. We require that p neq -p, which follows because p is not identically zero, as can be seen by specializing the variables appropriately, say x_i = i.
What is happening here is that we define a mechanism for specifying the sign of each term of a determinant quite independently of any discussion of permutations. If you consider the Vandermonde matrix
then each possible term of its determinant is uniquely determined by the vector (e_1,...,e_n) of exponents of x_1,...,x_n which it entails. Each term x_1^{e_1}...x_n^{e_n} for 0 <= e_i <= n-1 also appears in p, however. Use the sign appearing in p as the sign for the term in the determinant. This makes p equal to the Vandermonde determinant, and everything else works out from then on.
In article <5...@ucrmath.UCR.EDU>, John Baez writes: > Help!!! I'd like a short proof if possible that the > sign of a permutation is really well-defined, i.e., > that any element which is a product of an even number of > interchanges is not the product of an odd number.
The following (due to Hans Liebeck) is my favorite proof of this result.
If a permutation f is the product of both an odd and an even number of transpositions then we may write the identity e as the product of an odd number of transpositions. Assume WLOG e = (x_1 y_1) * ... * (x_n y_n) with 1 =< x_i < y_i, where n is odd. Next, replace (x_i y_i) with (1 x_i)(1 y_i)(1 x_i) if x_i > 1. We now have that e = (1 z_1) * ... * (1 z_m) with m odd and z_i>1 for all i. This gives a contradiction, since each symbol (1 k) with k>1 must appear an even number of times, and m is odd.
Q.E.D. -- Chris Long, 272 Hamilton St. Apt. 1, New Brunswick NJ 08901 (201) 846-5569
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In article <Apr.11.04.39.43.1990.20...@topaz.rutgers.edu>, cl...@topaz.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) says:
>If a permutation f is the product of both an odd and an even number >of transpositions then we may write the identity e as the product >of an odd number of transpositions. Assume WLOG >e = (x_1 y_1) * ... * (x_n y_n) with 1 =< x_i < y_i, where n is odd. >Next, replace (x_i y_i) with (1 x_i)(1 y_i)(1 x_i) if x_i > 1. We >now have that e = (1 z_1) * ... * (1 z_m) with m odd and z_i>1 for >all i. This gives a contradiction, since each symbol (1 k) with k>1 >must appear an even number of times, and m is odd.
This doesn't work. For example, e = (1 2) (1 3) (1 2) (1 3) (1 2) (1 3) but (1 2) appears an odd number of times. ------- Dean Hickerson, Dept. of Math., Penn State Univ., University Park, PA 16802 h...@psuvm.psu.edu
In article <5...@ucrmath.UCR.EDU> b...@x.UUCP (john baez) writes: >Help!!! I'd like a short proof if possible that the >sign of a permutation is really well-defined, i.e., ....
Let's assume we are talking about a permutation of 1,2,...,n, so that we can describe the permutation by a sequence, e.g. (5,1,3,2,4). Define an _inversion_ to be a place where a larger number in the sequence precedes a smaller one. The above example has 5 inversions (5 precedes four smaller numbers; 3 precedes one). Define the parity of the permutation to be the parity of the number of inversions.
Lemma: Any transposition (i.e., interchange) reverses the parity of the permutation.
Corollary: Any permutation that consists of an odd number of transpositions is odd, i.e., has an odd number of inversions. Similarly for even.
In article <5...@ucrmath.UCR.EDU> b...@x.UUCP (john baez) writes:
>Help!!! I'd like a short proof if possible that the >sign of a permutation is really well-defined, i.e., >that any element which is a product of an even number of >interchanges is not the product of an odd number. > . . . >And can you do it by tomorrow morning????
>No, this is not a homework problem!!!!!!!! >I'M TEACHING THE COURSE.
For a permutation in S_n define its sign to be 1 or -1 according to what effect that permutation has on the polynomial
product for 1 <= i < j <=n of (x_i - x_j)
It is then obvious that the sign defined this way is a character, i.e., a homomorphism from S_n to the multiplicative group {1, -1}, that assigns the value -1 to any transposition and, therefore, "counts mod 2" the number of transpositions in any factorization of a permutation. -- Bill