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It's Pi Day: Whose birthday is not in pi?

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TPiezas

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Mar 14, 2010, 11:06:08 AM3/14/10
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Hello all,

At least not in the first 200 million digits, that is. David
Andersen's cool applet,

http://www.angio.net/pi/bigpi.cgi

allows you to search for an arbitrary string of digits in the
database. It we use the convention mm/dd/yyyy, then today is
03142010, and it occurs after the 54th million decimal place.

But if you were born in April 6, 1981, or 04061981, then, sorry, you
are not in the present slice of pie, er, pi. :-)

Happy Pi Day!

- Titus

Leroy Quet

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Mar 14, 2010, 12:19:49 PM3/14/10
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I prefer the continued fraction representation of pi to the decimal
expansion. Since the first three terms of the continued fraction
expansion of pi are 3, 7, 15, then this kind of pi birthday would be
March 7th, 1915 or 2015. Or maybe July 3rd of 1915 or 2015, given the
order of day and month in much of the world vs the US.

Yes, happy (decimal) Pi Day to everybody!

Thanks,
Leroy Quet

Leroy Quet

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Mar 14, 2010, 12:43:31 PM3/14/10
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And today is Albert Einstein's birthday, so Einstein was a...

Pi-eces!

Leroy

TPiezas

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Mar 14, 2010, 1:12:37 PM3/14/10
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Pisces: Feb 18- Mar 20.

That's such an awful pun, Leroy. :-)

- Titus

Mensanator

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Mar 14, 2010, 1:20:49 PM3/14/10
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On Mar 14, 10:06�am, TPiezas <tpie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> At least not in the first 200 million digits, that is. �David
> Andersen's cool applet,
>
> http://www.angio.net/pi/bigpi.cgi
>

This one's funnier:

>>Subject: New website: "Is my name in Pi?"
>>From: da...@dhbailey.com (baileydh)
>>Date: 12/15/2001 6:58 PM Central Standard Time
>>Message-id: ><d8e6a739.0112151658.6b42b...@posting.google.com+>
>>
>>I am pleased to announce a new website that permits one to enter a
>>name (or any other character string), or a hex digit string, and
>>determine whether or not it appears somewhere in the first 4 billion
>>binary digits of pi. The URL is:
>>
>>http://pi.nersc.gov
>>
>>There are also links here to some recent papers on the normality
>>(digit randomness) of pi, log 2 and other mathematical constants.
>>
>>Thanks to several people whose efforts made this tool possible.
>>
>>David H Bailey
>>Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
>>dhbai...@lbl.gov


>Pi-Search Result:
>
>search string = "what"
>search string found at binary index = 3027720424
>search string = "a"
>search string found at binary index = 3940448344
>search string = "boon"
>search string found at binary index = 1675419624
>search string = "to"
>search string found at binary index = 2976886092
>search string = "crack"
>search string found at binary index = 1033573332
>search string = "pots"
>search string found at binary index = 3624951812
>search string = "they"
>search string found at binary index = 2966530512
>search string = "can"
>search string found at binary index = 312101184
>search string = "prove"
>search string found at binary index = 93065468
>search string = "any"
>search string found at binary index = 1594234356
>search string = "thing"
>search string found at binary index = 2532216996
>search string = "as"
>search string found at binary index = 1305330176
>search string = "long"
>search string found at binary index = 2720580796
>search string = "as"
>search string found at binary index = 1305330176
>search string = "they"
>search string found at binary index = 2966530512
>search string = "limit"
>search string found at binary index = 2212625872
>search string = "their"
>search string found at binary index = 3090145864
>search string = "stuff"
>search string found at binary index = 3754473752
>search string = "to"
>search string found at binary index = 2976886092
>search string = "four"
>search string found at binary index = 3623060776
>search string = "letter"
>search string found at binary index = 1109071146
>search string = "words"
>search string found at binary index = 1094612736
>
>
>
>search string = "did"
>search string found at binary index = 3219521604
>search string = "castro"
>search string found at binary index = 3081039365
>search string = "kill"
>search string found at binary index = 2389572600
>search string = "kennedy"
>search string found at binary index = 2436044899
>
>
>
>search string = "world"
>search string found at binary index = 20284488
>search string = "trade"
>search string found at binary index = 2801815176
>search string = "center"
>search string found at binary index = 2440717252
>search string = "09112001"
>search string found at binary index = 2629023888
>
>
>
>search string = "hey"
>search string found at binary index = 278401784
>search string = "osama"
>search string found at binary index = 2281602588
>search string = "bin"
>search string found at binary index = 3388427800
>search string = "laden"
>search string found at binary index = 3010741840
>search string = "you"
>search string found at binary index = 1205643196
>search string = "faggot"
>search string found at binary index = 1881189333
>search string = "stick"
>search string found at binary index = 358463400
>search string = "a"
>search string found at binary index = 3940448344
>search string = "daisy"
>search string found at binary index = 3311002664
>search string = "cutter"
>search string found at binary index = 521847596
>search string = "up"
>search string found at binary index = 2794367076
>search string = "your"
>search string found at binary index = 3197632248
>search string = "ass"
>search string found at binary index = 1303964752

Transfer Principle

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Mar 14, 2010, 2:31:54 PM3/14/10
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Dang it! My birthday is not in the present slice of pi either.

This year marks the first time that the Google search engine
has actually acknowledged Pi Day with a Google Doodle, thus
increasing awareness of this "holiday." So let's make this
year the biggest Pi Day "celebration" ever.

Happy Pi Day everybody!

Frederick Williams

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Mar 14, 2010, 2:51:53 PM3/14/10
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I think the sensible way to represent dates as numerals is in the format

yyyymmdd,

then date order equals numerical order.

--
I can't go on, I'll go on.

Ashton K

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Mar 14, 2010, 3:10:01 PM3/14/10
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In sci.math Transfer Principle <lwa...@lausd.net> wrote:

And it's a fantastic google doodle indeed.
Or, maybe my bias is showing.
Happy Pi Day!

--Ashton

porky_...@my-deja.com

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Mar 14, 2010, 4:42:33 PM3/14/10
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Mine occurs if you use ddmmyyyy, like they do it in Europe.

In fact I still consider mmddyyyy inferior to ddmmyyyy.

Mensanator

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Mar 14, 2010, 4:52:23 PM3/14/10
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On Mar 14, 3:42 pm, "porky_pig...@my-deja.com" <porky_pig...@my-

Little choice amongst rotten apples. You can't sort with either.

Transfer Principle

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Mar 14, 2010, 4:59:23 PM3/14/10
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On Mar 14, 12:10 pm, Ashton K <ash...@ashtonk.ath.cx> wrote:

> In sci.math Transfer Principle <lwal...@lausd.net> wrote:
> And it's a fantastic google doodle indeed.
> Or, maybe my bias is showing.
> Happy Pi Day!

Right now, it's 3/14, 1:59pm here in California (the state that's
home to the annual pi day at the Exploratorium in San Francisco).

Happy Pi Day, Everybody!

Ashton K

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Mar 14, 2010, 5:07:30 PM3/14/10
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In sci.math porky_...@my-deja.com <porky_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
<snip>

> In fact I still consider mmddyyyy inferior to ddmmyyyy.


See now, I've always found this confusing. Because long ago
I realized that most Americans pay absolutely no attention
to which way they write it, and I've never noticed a clear
consensus on this. So whenever the day <= 12, I get concerned
that people will misread the date I'm trying to confer.

Or maybe I'm just weird.

--Ashton

Don

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Mar 14, 2010, 10:06:29 PM3/14/10
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On 03/14/2010 02:07 PM, Ashton K wrote:
> In sci.math porky_...@my-deja.com<porky_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>> In fact I still consider mmddyyyy inferior to ddmmyyyy.
>
>
> See now, I've always found this confusing. Because long ago
> I realized that most Americans pay absolutely no attention
> to which way they write it, and I've never noticed a clear
> consensus on this.

If I understand correctly, the American military uses a canonical date
format like this: 14 Mar 2010 (today's date).

This has the advantage of being unambiguous even if you remove the spaces.

It also has the disadvantage that other countries may want to use different
3-letter abbreviations for the name of the month. (But why would the US
military care about other countries? That's really *not* their job.)

OTOH, the common US civilian format for the date one-week-ago would be
3-7-10, which is completely useless for any data processing purpose, even
if done by humans instead of machines. Complete insanity, but that's the
most common date format in the US. (Hmm. Who benefits if the date on a
document is ambiguous? Let me think for a minute...)

> So whenever the day<= 12, I get concerned
> that people will misread the date I'm trying to confer.

You have good reason to be worried.

> Or maybe I'm just weird.

Probably.

Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.

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Mar 14, 2010, 10:07:38 PM3/14/10
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On Mar 14, 2:07 pm, Ashton K <ash...@ashtonk.ath.cx> wrote:

> In sci.math porky_pig...@my-deja.com <porky_pig...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> > In fact I still consider mmddyyyy inferior to ddmmyyyy.
>

Of course. There must be monotonicity in the unit lengths.

>
> See now, I've always found this confusing. Because long ago
> I realized that most Americans pay absolutely no attention
> to which way they write it, and I've never noticed a clear
> consensus on this. So whenever the day <= 12, I get concerned
> that people will misread the date I'm trying to confer.
>

It is highly important to the American psyche to be different (and,
thus, better) than the rest of the World. Even in sports scoring, the
US lists the visiting team first and the host - second. The rest of
the world does it in reverse. When telling time, US writes "5 pm"or
"seventeen hundred hours" instead of "17:00".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

American exceptionalism

American exceptionalism refers to the theory that the United States
occupies a special niche among the nations of the world in terms of
its national credo, historical evolution, political and religious
institutions and unique origins.

Dissemination in popular culture

Critics point out that the idea of American exceptionalism is not so
much manifested in an actual difference between the US and other
countries in terms of outward behavior, but more in terms of a ‘truth’
about the mental and moral superiority of Americans being actively
reiterated by American popular culture to the American public via
movies, television and political rhetoric. To generalize, all
Americans are told every day in the media that only they know how the
world really works, and only they know how it should work. In this
way, the myth is kept alive.

Jim Ferry

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Mar 15, 2010, 12:02:11 AM3/15/10
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On Mar 14, 11:06 am, TPiezas <tpie...@gmail.com> wrote:

We had our first pi day party. My kids were very enthusiastic (the
younger two only about the pie, the eldest about the pi as well), and
we invited some neighborhood kids over as well. We all looked up our
birthdays on the site you mention, and the winner (first occurrence)
brought home a small pie. We also measured a small round table we
have. Circumference: 112 inches, Diameter 35 5/8 inches. Approximate
value of pi: 3.14386. Of the two kids who were still paying
attention at that point, one was impressed (hey: 3.14, March 14, there
it is!) and the other not so much (that's barely any digits of pi!).

Gerry Myerson

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Mar 15, 2010, 12:24:49 AM3/15/10
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In article
<f661ad46-2b5e-4039...@z1g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,

"Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr." <ostap_be...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Even in sports scoring, the
> US lists the visiting team first and the host - second.

Generally in the US one lists the winners first and the losers
second. Perhaps you're referring to a baseball linescore,
in which the visitors are listed first because they bat first.

--
Gerry Myerson (ge...@maths.mq.edi.ai) (i -> u for email)

TPiezas

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Mar 15, 2010, 2:53:07 AM3/15/10
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That's so commendable! Regardless of what they will remember (or
forget) in high school, in their adult years, they will remember that
once upon a time they had a Pi Day with dad.

Thank goodness the odds are great (86%) that one's birthday is in the
first 200 million digits of pi -- otherwise you will have a hard time
explaining the statistics to a teary-eyed 5-year-old why his/her
birthday is not in pi. :-)

- Titus

Mensanator

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Mar 15, 2010, 1:15:14 PM3/15/10
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Wouldn't you have better luck using http://pi.nersc.gov ?

They have 4 billion binary bits.

>
> - Titus

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