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Inverse 19 mathematics

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:12:10 PM12/14/09
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This remains to be verified by your Mathematician in a spirit of
understanding and NOT in a spirit of "balls and rectums" that many of
you have exemplified to us on sci math . "Balls and Rectums" will not
solve your predicament of Riemanns and the mess of Quantum
mathematics----- , but Hope research has been able to construct the
creation of Prime numbers and thier understanding as posted here in
several other posts, I believe 5 and 7 reconstruction has veen shown
(without the 19 Paragon to guide the undestanding for now).

Frederick Riemann Probably understood Mathematics in "parallel
contraints" and had he lived he would have discovered 1:3 constant in
mathemativs , but the contraints of the diversion and conversion of
mathematics are not parallel but a cone of 19 Paragon as we have
proven. The Midline as Riemann hypothesised is actually " 9.5 degrees
median linear at 4.75 constant between 1/3 and 1/4 of the
proportions"( 19 -14.25 degrees)


Vinoo Cameron, Theo Denotter, Hope Research

YBM

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:15:19 PM12/14/09
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Inverse 19 mathematics a �crit :
> [nonsense]

> Vinoo Cameron, Theo Denotter, Hope Research

Two nuts in a psychiatric hospital?

Giovanni Resta

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Dec 14, 2009, 1:35:20 PM12/14/09
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folie_%C3%A0_deux

This is really a sad case. I hope these two guys
search soon some mental health support because they
clearly share an obsession about math, which now it
is more or less innocuous, but can readily extend to
more mundane matters and become more dangerous for them
and other people.

Apparently one of these guys is a family doctor
(search for Dr Vinoo Cameron MD Family Practice Physician Athens, WI )
I find this thing quite scaring...

g.

YBM

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:30:03 PM12/14/09
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Giovanni Resta a �crit :

Dr. Vinoo Cameron MD
704 Pine St
Hope Clinic
Athens, WI 54411

Damned! Really scary! He's even given his clinic the same name
he gave to his nutty research.

Is there some medical institution in USA which should be aware of
this dangerous mess?

porky_...@my-deja.com

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:55:57 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 2:30 pm, YBM <ybm...@nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> Giovanni Resta a écrit :

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Sure, it's

Hope Clinic
704 Pine St
Athens, WI 54411

YBM

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Dec 14, 2009, 2:59:37 PM12/14/09
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porky_...@my-deja.com a �crit :

> On Dec 14, 2:30 pm, YBM <ybm...@nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
>> Giovanni Resta a �crit :

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>>> On 14/12/2009 19.15, YBM wrote:
>>>> Inverse 19 mathematics a �crit :

Had it be a 'real' clinic (say with others medical doctors), this nut
could not have worked there for long...

porky_...@my-deja.com

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Dec 14, 2009, 3:24:23 PM12/14/09
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On Dec 14, 2:59 pm, YBM <ybm...@nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> porky_pig...@my-deja.com a écrit :

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> > On Dec 14, 2:30 pm, YBM <ybm...@nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> >> Giovanni Resta a écrit :

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> >>>> Inverse 19 mathematics a écrit :

Don't know about other medical doctors, but this clinic is listed on
aspirus network of regional providers:

http://www.aspirus.org/hospitalsClinics/index.cfm?catid=2&subcatID=16&pageid=234&docID=915

Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.

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Dec 15, 2009, 7:47:03 AM12/15/09
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On Dec 14, 11:59 am, YBM <ybm...@nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> porky_pig...@my-deja.com a écrit :
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> > On Dec 14, 2:30 pm, YBM <ybm...@nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> >> Giovanni Resta a écrit :

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> >>>> Inverse 19 mathematics a écrit :

Does he work there or is he a patient? If he works - in what capacity?

Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.

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Dec 15, 2009, 8:11:40 AM12/15/09
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On Dec 14, 11:30 am, YBM <ybm...@nooos.fr.invalid> wrote:
> Giovanni Resta a écrit :
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> >> Inverse 19 mathematics a écrit :

It gets even scarier. He also mentions Christopher Cold MD in his
posts. Well, here he is:

http://www.cirp.org/library/anatomy/cold-taylor/

The prepuce

C.J. COLD and J.R. TAYLOR*
Departments of Pathology, Marshfield Clinic, Wisconsin, USA, and
*Health Sciences Centre, University of Manitoba, Canada

Keywords Prepuce, embryology, development, anatomy, function,
circumcision, histology


Introduction

The prepuce is a common anatomical structure of the male [1] and
female [2] external genitalia of all human and non-human primates...

Authors

C.J. Cold, MD, Pathologist.
J.R. Taylor, MB, ChB, MRCPED, FRCPC, Pathologist.

Correspondence: Christopher J. Cold, MD, Department of Pathology,
1000 North Oak Ave, Marshfield, Wisconsin, 54449, USA.

-------------------------

Almost the same zip code...


Here are more of his Wisconsin characters:

http://www.inverse19mathematics.com/site/Welcome.html

Vinoo Cameron and Thomas Ellenbecker... Professor Edgar E Escultur...
us, raw mathematicians at Hope Research... Vinoo Cameron M.D CHCQM,
Theo Denotter, Hope Research...

Hope Research
Principal Research Discoverers:
Vinoo Cameron
Theo den Otter

Associates Prime Researchers:
John Daniels (Inverse Law)
Tod Kittel (Topological Research)

Assentors:
Dr. Gillian Battino, MD
Dr. Christipher Cold, MD
Matt Spaulding, Engineer
Reed Hall
Thomas Ellenbecker Jr.

Edgar E. Escultura
MathSciNet
Ph.D. University of Wisconsin-Madison 1970

Theo den Otter
Owner, denotter's repair
Wausau, Wisconsin Area

Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.

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Dec 15, 2009, 8:23:54 AM12/15/09
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On Dec 15, 5:11 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."

Dr. Gillian Battino practices Diagnostic Radiology in Wausau,
Wisconsin. Dr. Battino graduated with an MD 13 years ago.

Address & Contact Information:
333 Pine Ridge Boulevard
Wausau, WI, 54401

Specialties: Diagnostic Radiology


Matt Spalding

Title Electrical Division Manager at PGA Inc
Demographic info Construction | Wausau, Wisconsin Area
Current: Electrical Division Manager at PGA Inc

Reed E. Hall, Executive Director

Reed E. Hall has served as Executive Director of Marshfield Clinic,
Marshfield, Wisconsin, since January, 2000. From June, 1976 to
January, 2000, he served as General Counsel to Marshfield Clinic.
Marshfield Clinic is one of the five largest private medical clinics
in the United States.

S.D. Ellenbecker, Inc.
1222 Mount View Ln.
Athens, WI 54411

S.D. Ellenbecker, Inc. is one of the most successful and progressive
commercial construction companies in central Wisconsin.

Left to right: Dan Ellenbecker, Tom Ellenbecker, Bill Ellenbecker,
Skip Ellenbecker, John Heier, Dean Ellenbecker, Jay Ellenbecker


Tod Kittel local Schofield profile:
Address: 5260 Bus. Hwy. 51
City: Schofield
State: Wisconsin
ZIP: 54476
Phone: 715-355-0606
County: Marathon
Manufacturing Firm: David Design, LLC, T.

Todd Kittel

Educator
Madison, Wisconsin Area

Education
* Marian College of Fond du Lac
* University of Wisconsin-Madison
Industry
Education Management

Todd Kittel’s Education
Marian College of Fond du Lac
MA Education , Educational Leadership , 1998 — 2001
University of Wisconsin-Madison
BS-Education; MA-Ed. Leadership , 1979 — 1986

Baugh

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Jan 2, 2010, 11:06:18 PM1/2/10
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On Dec 16 2009, 12:11 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."

Anybody living in Wisconsin, perhaps give the clinic a ring? They
should clearly be notified if one of their physicians
(a family physician nonetheless) seems to be delusional or psychotic,
and may be unfit to carry out his duties. This will probably
need serious investigation on the clinic's part.

The problem is that it's not clear that the Vinoo Cameron on Usenet is
the actual Vinoo Cameron
and not someone willfully impersonating him for the purpose of
tarnishing his reputation.

Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.

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Jan 3, 2010, 4:25:47 AM1/3/10
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Exactly what I fear too. May be worth it to call these people and find
out if they are aware of this situation.

Baugh

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:03:54 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 8:25 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."

Here's a phone number for Hope Clinic in Athens, WI, from the
internet:

715-257-9900

Somebody should definitely help to call them and set this straight.

Inverse 19 mathematics

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:30:39 AM1/3/10
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> Somebody should definitely help to call them and set this straight.- Hide quoted text -
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You all can call and Whine all you want , our Premises are
registered, see latest post under "INVERSE 19 , KING OF POSTS-- Our
friends and assenters are all very reputable, accomplished People .
All Phone calls to the HOPE CLINIC are recorded and we willl prosecute
this" harassements from frustrated Mathematicians JUST BECAUSE We
called thier Riemann an abberation, which he is ,because he did not
realize the divergence. We are posted under American Law at scimath.

YOUR MATHEMATICS is dead fellows, we have proven that and within 6
months we will have an official proof. to bring down your Theories.,
or are you going to harass us because we do.

Hope Research.

Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:51:12 PM1/3/10
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I would also call the other people that this fellow mentions in his
posts and inform them of what is being done to their good names.

Look, if this guy claimed that there were 1 or 2 people involved - I
could believe him. But with so many names mentioned - I may suspect
that this loon is somebody else entirely and uses the good names of
these people out of spite.

Baugh

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:29:46 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 4, 9:51 am, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."

Yeah, the guy really does appear to be a loon. His posts are just
getting weirder and more incoherent
each time, like the distorted thoughts of someone who does need
serious psychiatric care.

Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:31:20 AM1/4/10
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Either:

A. He is indeed a practicing medical doctor, in which case his insane
behaviour is dangerous to his patients

or

B. He is falsely impersonating and name-dropping these real-life
Wisconsin doctors, in which case these doctors need to be notified of
this impersonation, damage to their reputation and of possible bodily
harm from a menacing crazy man. Why did he choose to impersonate
them?

Baugh

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:29:00 PM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 5:31 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."

Who knows what drives insane people to do what they do. Either way,
it doesn't look good. Somebody should try to speak to those doctors,
or perhaps notify the local Athens, WI, law enforcement to investigate.

spudnik

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Jan 4, 2010, 10:07:56 PM1/4/10
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the Riemann hypothesis may be an aberration, but
you have to explain, why or what that is, so that
we can see "what it all means" --
meaning centuries of mathematical proving grounds.

thus:
that's an interesting anomaly;
how does it relate to the heliopause & so on?... and,
what is it about aether that causes it to entrain --
is that it's sole property?... well,
doctor Einstein's essay seems quite confuzed
about the electromegnetic properties of matter, but
that was a while before our standard textbookoid concepts
were put out from the Texas Schoolbook Suppository.

> It's an analogy. Your refusal to offer any evidence against the Sun's
> entrained aether ending around the orbit of Uranus being the reason
> for the Pioneer Effect is analogous to your insistence in flying
> wombats without providing evidence of any.

thus:
do you have the date of the essay by doctor Einstein?... it seems
that
you are agreeing with him "insofar as," but not really
with his penultimate conclusion -- that is,
whenver he was concluding what is sufficiently subtle as
to be not totally apparent without further thought. also,
he is giving a lot of credit to Lorentz, who may
be more responsible, after all, forr the time-space crack-up
than doctor Minkowski; can you say,
Useless fomalism?

however, the real problem is your persistent use
-- with whomever else from the past & future --
of the the concept of vacuum, as Pascal first thought of it,
which is really, strictly relative or active (as in,
That giant sucking sound, you hear, when you're trying
to read this ****).
> http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

--Brit's hate Shakespeare, Why?
http://wlym.com/campaigner/8011.pdf
--Madame Rice is a Riceist, How?
http://larouchepub.com/other/2009/3650rice_racist.html
--The Riemannian Space of the Nucleus, What?
http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles_2009/Relativistic_Moon...
--In perpetuity clause in healthcare bill, Where?

mike3

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:13:01 AM1/5/10
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On Jan 3, 11:31 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
<ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
<snip>

> Either:
>
> A. He is indeed a practicing medical doctor, in which case his insane
> behaviour is dangerous to his patients
>
> or
>
> B. He is falsely impersonating and name-dropping these real-life
> Wisconsin doctors, in which case these doctors need to be notified of
> this impersonation, damage to their reputation and of possible bodily
> harm from a menacing crazy man. Why did he choose to impersonate
> them?

Wow, you think some silly Usenet *math group* troll or crank or
whatever
is a menace to someone's life and limb?! How many other such silly
group
trolls/cranks/etc. do you think are such menaces to life and limb? Is
it
only when they do one of the two items you mention above or not?

mike3

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:11:27 AM1/5/10
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On Jan 3, 11:31 pm, "Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr."
<ostap_bender_1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Either:
>
> A. He is indeed a practicing medical doctor, in which case his insane
> behaviour is dangerous to his patients
>
> or
>
> B. He is falsely impersonating and name-dropping these real-life
> Wisconsin doctors, in which case these doctors need to be notified of
> this impersonation, damage to their reputation and of possible bodily
> harm from a menacing crazy man. Why did he choose to impersonate
> them?

Wow, you think some silly Usenet *math group* troll or crank or

Ostap S. B. M. Bender Jr.

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:41:44 AM1/5/10
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But he is no ordinary troll.

If he is a medical doctor, then his insanity and incompetence are a
danger to his patients. In that regard, doctors are very different
from software engineers or garbage collectors.

If he impersonates these particular doctors and other real-life people
in Wisconsin - I find it menacing. Why would he assume the identity of
actual living people?

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