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Alain Verghote  
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 More options Nov 30 2004, 5:30 pm
Newsgroups: sci.math.research
From: Alain Verghote <alainvergh...@yahoo.fr>
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 22:30:11 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 30 2004 5:30 pm
Subject: " A continuous iteration of f(x,y) r>0 ; f(x,y)^[r] "
f:R*R->R  .Let us start with a simple case:
 g(x,g(x,y))= f(x,y)    f given     (1)
 or f(x,y)^[1/2]=g(x,y)  
 Example: f(x,y)=y/(1+x*y)  , g(x,y)=2*y/(2+x*y) verifies (1).

 By the same way will have:f(x,y)^[1/p]=p*y/(p+x*y)=g(x,y) p integer
verifying g(x,g(x....)))n times =f(x,y)=y/(1+x*y).
 We may generalize:
     if f(x,y)=phi^-1(phi(y)+n(x))   or  m^[n(x)](y) ,
     phi(m(y))=phi(y)+1 ;
     then f(x,y)^[r]=phi^-1(phi(y)+r.n(x))   or  m^[r.n(x)](y) ,
     here r is a positive real number.

 Please your comments and ideas,alain.


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Daniel Geisler  
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 More options Dec 14 2004, 7:48 pm
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From: Daniel Geisler <dan...@finestplanet.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:48:56 -0800
Local: Tues, Dec 14 2004 7:48 pm
Subject: Re: " A continuous iteration of f(x,y) r>0 ; f(x,y)^[r] "

Alain Verghote wrote:
> f:R*R->R  .Let us start with a simple case:
>  g(x,g(x,y))= f(x,y)    f given     (1)
>  or f(x,y)^[1/2]=g(x,y)  
>  Example: f(x,y)=y/(1+x*y)  , g(x,y)=2*y/(2+x*y) verifies (1).

>  By the same way will have:f(x,y)^[1/p]=p*y/(p+x*y)=g(x,y) p integer
> verifying g(x,g(x....)))n times =f(x,y)=y/(1+x*y).
>  We may generalize:
>      if f(x,y)=phi^-1(phi(y)+n(x))   or  m^[n(x)](y) ,
>      phi(m(y))=phi(y)+1 ;
>      then f(x,y)^[r]=phi^-1(phi(y)+r.n(x))   or  m^[r.n(x)](y) ,
>      here r is a positive real number.

>  Please your comments and ideas,alain.

Alain, my tetration.org web site is dedicated to continuous iteration.
See http://www.tetration.org/Dynamics/index.html for resources on
continuous iteration and
http://www.tetration.org/Combinatorics/index.html for an outline of my
combinatorial approach to the subject.

For ideas consider Stephen Wolfram's question:
 > How can one extend recursive function definitions to continuous
 > numbers? What is the continuous analog of the Ackermann function? The
 > symbolic forms of the Ackermann function with a fixed first argument
 > seem to have obvious interpretations for arbitrary real or complex
 > values of the second argument. But is there a general way to extend
 > these kinds of recursive definitions to continuous cases? Given a way
 > to do this, how does it apply to recursive definitions like those on
 > page 130? What happens to all the irregularities when one is between
 > integer values? Or is it only possible to find simple continuous
 > generalizations to functions that show fundamentally simple behavior?
 > Can this be used as a characterization of when the behavior is simple?

For my non-peer-reviewed response to Wolfram's question on the NKS Forum
see http://forum.wolframscience.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=488

Here's why I'm interested in the subject. A theory of continuously
iterated smooth matrix functions would probably encompass all of
dynamics in physics. A theory of continuously iterated smooth complex
functions would be powerful enough to extend the Ackermann function to
complex numbers.

Daniel Geisler


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