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Yanick Toutain

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Feb 21, 2008, 10:48:43 AM2/21/08
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On 21 fév, 15:19, "Yap" <y...@isp.com> wrote:
> "The Observational Collapse of Einsteinian Physics"
>
> Observations made in the field of Quantum Physics have already
> established that the concept that space and time are different aspects of
> the same entity - "space-time" is flawed. This concept was based on the
> recognition that the Lorentz Transformations resulting from velocity and our
> inability to transmit information faster than the velocity of light made it
> impossible to establish our absolute velocity through space observationally.
> Physicists who were more enamored with mathematical elegance than with
> establishing a better understanding of the way the Universe works extended
> that impossibility to generate the belief that an absolute velocity did not
> exist! This leads to logical contradictions, as Dr. Einstein recognized
> instinctively, causing him to resist the idea of "space-time" for about 25
> years after the publication of Special Relativity and asserting that the
> "space-time" concept required the existence of an infinite number of
> Aethers!
>
> Lately, Quantum physicist have made observations which demonstrate
> that, of the two current explanations of quantum theory, the one which
> requires that the velocity of propagation of quantum effects be infinite
> velocity rather than being limited to the velocity of light, is consistent
> with the results of observation. Experiments have shown that the velocity of
> the coupling of the polarization angle (the quantum number of the photon) of
> "paired photons" occurs at a velocity of at least four times the velocity of
> light and perhaps at an infinite velocity. Such a coupling velocity prevents
> physicists from hiding behind the idea that there is no absolute velocity
> reference frame and forcibly re-establishes the idea of Aether and
> demolishes the idea of "space-time" as other than as a conventional
> mathematical abstraction.
>
> The idea that information can travel at a velocity greater than the
> velocity of light is not inconsistent with the requirements of Special
> Relativity. If one examines all of the conventional means of transmission of
> information one finds that they involve the transmission of energy (e.g.-
> light signals, radio signals, particle transmission, etc). If one examines
> the Lorentz Transformation for energy (F-L-T system of units), one finds
> that the units of energy are the product of the Lorentz Transformations
> Force and for Length. Since the Lorentz Transformation for Force (on axis)
> is unity, the Lorentz Transformation for Energy is equal to the
> Transformation for Length and is 1/(1-V^2/C^2)^0.5). This transformation
> becomes infinite at the velocity of light and becomes imaginary at
> velocities above the velocity of light. Clearly, no observable process which
> involves energy can proceed faster than the velocity of light!
>
> The limitation imposed on the velocity of energy propagation does not
> apply to the velocity of propagation of the polarization angle of "paired
> photons". Since changing the polarization angle of a photon does not change
> its energy content, the limitation that Special Relativity imposes on the
> transmission of energy does not apply. To see how Special Relativity does
> impose a velocity limitation on the propagations of the polarization angle
> of "paired photons" one must apply the Lorentz Transformation for Angle to
> the problem. Angle is measured as the length along an arc divided by the
> radius of that arc. As a result, the Lorentz Transformation for Angle is
> (1-V^2/C^2)/(1-V^2/C^2), and is equal to unity at all velocities between
> +/-C! A simple calculus procedure shows that the Transformation for Angle
> remains unity even at the velocity of light, where the Transformation for
> Energy becomes Infinite!. Unlike the Transformation for Energy, at
> velocities above that of light, the Transformation for Angle does not become
> imaginary. It retains its value of unity for all velocities. From this it
> seems reasonable to conclude that the
> velocity limit for the propagation of polarization angle of such photons is
> infinity. It is the writer's belief that this results applies to all quantum
> numbers and that the current interpretation of Quantum Theory which asserts
> that quantum effects must pervade through all of space at an infinite
> velocity is the correct one. (The alternative idea, that alternate universes
> co-existing in the same space would seem to be a concept that is so absurd
> that it seems reasonable to wonder how much LSD its adherents absorbed
> during their college years.)
>
> Quite significant is the fact that the original "big bang" fireball
> from which our Universe is believed to have begun has been observed. We know
> its location and we know our velocity with respect to it. As a result we
> have actually observed our "absolute velocity" through space. Since this is
> impossible under the "space-time" concept, we seem to be forced back to the
> Lorentz Transformation - Aether Theory!
>
> When one recognizes that information CAN propagate at a velocity
> significantly greater that the velocity of light, the idea of a "ABSOLUTE
> TIME" cannot be dismissed, just as the idea cannot be dismissed by those who
> consider the virtually instantaneously travel between locations using
> "wormholes". A successful use of a "wormhole" in this manner would also
> effectively establish "ABSOLUTE SIMULTANIETY". Unfortunately for the
> intellectual status quo, "ABSOLUTE TIME" requires that the special case
> solution of Special Relativity represented by the Lorentz-Transformation
> Aether Theory represent our reality. The mathematical abstraction of
> space-time is just that,
> an abstraction which makes the computations of velocity effects easier, it
> has no physical significance. Nature doesn't actually give a damn about the
> abstractions we use to make computations simpler, it does care, however,
> about the useful function that the classical Aether performs. (Dr. Einstein
> is reported to have held on to the belief in absolute time, identical to a
> belief in the Aether theory, for 25 years after he published Special
> Relativity and to have warned "remember gentlemen, we have not proven that
> the Aether does not exist, we have merely proven that we do not need it for
> computations.) We have reached a point where the existence of the Aether has
> been observationally proven though the "paired photon" experiments. It is
> time for the mathematical idiot-savants to step aside and let intelligent
> men attack the problem objectively without fear of repression.
>
> Recently, astronomers in Australia announced that they have observed
> that the velocity of light in the early stages of the Universe was greater
> than it is now. At present, their observations are considered to be errors
> since the velocity of light is "known" to be constant. WRONG! The velocity
> of light is "a constant" only when measured with local units of measurement.
> It cannot be both constant and "a constant" unless the Lorentz
> Transformations for length and time are either equal or are unity. THEY
> AREN'T, they are reciprocal! In addition, cosmologists are struggling to
> make sense of the apparent speeding up of the expansion of the Universe at
> extreme distances from the original "fireball". It must be pointed out that
> both these
> observations would result if the correct gravitational transformations were
> employed, i.e-
>
> Force = 1
> Length = 1/G*M1*M2/(R*C)^2
> Time = G*M1*M2/(R*C)^2
>
> instead of the erroneous ones which result from the naive error made in the
> original derivation of General Relativity which was plastered over with the
> fakery of "curved space". (There is no transformation for length in General
> Relativity.
>
> It is puzzling as to why there is a search for a mysterious additional
> repulsive force to explain the observed rate of expansion of the Universe.
> The reason that this is puzzling is the fact that nowhere in the discussions
> has the writer found that the radiation pressure of the 3K background, and a
> possibly much large pressure caused by neutrinos, has been taken into
> account. Since it is currently estimated that the energy represented by that
> radiation is at least 10 times the energy present in the matter contained in
> the Universe, it is easy to believe that the pressure produced by the
> radiation can easily produce the required espansive force. Is there proof
> that this is the case, probably not, but this source of expansive force has
> not been included in the calculations. With this viewpoint, the Universe
> would be analogous to a gas (radiation) filled balloon containing a
> sprinkling of dust (matter). (An article in the March 2003 issue of
> Scientific American describes the Universe as just such a dist filled
> gas-bag.)
>
> If one examines the big bang observations one finds that they are
> consistent with the Universe being formed within a gravitationally collapsed
> object when the correct gravitational transformations are employed. Such an
> object, as observed internally without accounting for the relativistically
> changed size of the units of measurement, would collapse and then, when that
> collapse had proceeded to a radius equal to four times the horizon radius,
> would be observed to expand explosively at the beginning and then settle
> down to a more moderate rate of expansion. In directions away from the
> observed source of the expansion, the rate of that expansion should also
> seem to be increasing due to the fact that we are also looking into the
> past. These effects are to be expected from the application of the corrected
> gravitational transformations to the problem. The effects described are
> rigorously derived inhttp://einsteinhoax.com/gravity.htm.
>
> The source material for this posting may be found inhttp://einsteinhoax.com/hoax.htm(1997);http://einsteinhoax.com/gravity.htm
> (1987); andhttp://einsteinhoax.com/relcor.htm(1997). EVERYTHING WHICH WE
> ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS
> TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE
> MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS
> REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM
> THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS.
>
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>
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>
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> exception for which a correction was provided.

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Vous semblez récuser Einstein en voulant supprimer le plafond 299 792
458 m/s
C'est inutile.
Si vous souhaitez examiner la grille théorique néo-newtonienne, allez
sur mon site.
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Cela consiste à reprendre
TEMPS ABSOLU (TEMPS OBJECTIF)
LIEUX ABSOLUS (LIEUX OBJECTIFS)
DEPLACEMENTS ABSOLUS (DEPLACEMENTS OBJECTIFS)
VITESSES ABSOLUES (VITESESS OBJECTIVES)
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les équations vectorielles de Newton
du type
Vx2 = Vx1 - G M / ( c * t1) power 3 * X1 * délai

Vx1 vitesse absolue (sur l'axe des X)
G constante
M "masse" (calcul provisoire cfci-dessous)
t1 délai du signal
X1 coordonnée en X
délai : délai entre deux mesures
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DANS LE VIDE DE DEMOCRITOS NEWTON

En y ajoutant le DELAI DU TRAJET DU SIGNAL

En considérant les photons (les atomos à l'intérieur) comme les causes
de la gravitation
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http://site.voila.fr/monsyte/de/SCIENCES/scphys/Recherche/La_veritable_equation_de_la_gravitation_helio_planetaire.htm
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CONSTANTE DE DÉVIATION HÉLIOPLANÉTAIRE

La constante de déviation gravitationnelle hélioplanétaire est égale à
Kdevia = 2,17004 10-6
m 3 s -1 J -1
Sa signification :
Toute planète recevant une énergie locale, Eloc, en provenance du
Soleil, aura sa trajectoire déviée d'une quantité égale à :
Eloc * Kdevia
Eloc en
J s -1 m -2
Eloc calculée sur un plan perpendiculaire à la direction des photons
depuis le Soleil jusqu'à la planète
Cette quantité a les dimensions d'une accélération (mètres par
secondes²) mais correspond simplement à la quantité de déviation (en
direction du Soleil) de la trajectoire de la planète.
m s -2
Son usage est strictement identique à celui d'Isaac Newton concernant
l'accélération gravitationnelle.

Le vecteur vitesse est diminué d'une quantité égale à
Eloc*Kdevia*unitédetemps
Pour une valeur Eloc = 1367
Il suffit de multiplier 1367 par Kdevia
Soit 1367 * 2,17004 10-6 =
Et l'on trouve 0.002966448
Ce résultat indique que la trajectoire de la Terre est déviée de 2.97
millimètres par seconde
J s -1 m -2

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Cette grille rend erronée l'ellipse (les délais de réception ne sont
pas égaux aux délais d'émission des signaux gravitationnels)
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Je vous renvoie à l'équation qui va prendre la place des âneries
positivistes de Lorentz

Elles sont Newton-compatibles

Merci


Yanick Toutain

Les crétins relativistes mal-polis sont dispensés de répondre (idem
pour les partisans du fasciste Heisenberg et de la mécanique
quantique)

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Yanick Toutain

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Feb 21, 2008, 10:57:54 AM2/21/08
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You seem to challenge Einstein while wanting to remove ceiling 299.792
458 m/s
It is useless.
If you wish to examine the néo-Newtonian theoretical grid, go
on my site.
monsyte
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That consists in beginning again
ABSOLUTE TIME (OBJECTIVE TIME)
ABSOLUTE PLACES (OBJECTIVE PLACES)
ABSOLUTE DISPLACEMENTS (OBJECTIVE DISPLACEMENTS)
ABSOLUTE VELOCITIES (OBJECTIVE VITESESS)
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vectorial equations of Newton
type
Vx2 = Vx1 - G M/(C * T1) power 3 * X1 * time

Vx1 absolute velocity (on the x axis)
G constant
M "masses" (provisional calculation cfci-dessous)
T1 time of the signal
X1 coordinated in X
time: deadline between two measurements
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IN THE VACUUM OF DEMOCRITOS NEWTON

By adding to it the TIME OF the WAY OF the SIGNAL

By considering the photons (atomos inside) as causes
gravitation
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extracts of the page:
http://site.voila.fr/monsyte/de/SCIENCES/scphys/Recherche/La_veritable_equation_de_la_gravitation_helio_planetaire.htm
_______________________________________________________
CONSTANT OF DEVIATION HÉLIOPLANÉTAIRE

The constant of gravitational deviation hélioplanétaire is equal to
Kdevia = 2,17004 10-6
m3 S -1 J -1
Its significance:
Any planet receiving a local energy, Eloc, coming from
Sun, will have its deviated trajectory of a quantity equalizes with:
Eloc * Kdevia
Eloc in
J S -1 m -2
Eloc calculated on a level perpendicular to the direction of the
photons
since the Sun to planet
This quantity has dimensions of an acceleration (meters by
seconds ²) but corresponds simply to the quantity of deviation (in
direction of the Sun) of the trajectory of planet.
m S -2
Its use is strictly identical to that of Isaac Newton concerning
gravitational acceleration.

The Flight Path Vector is decreased by a quantity equalizes with
Eloc*Kdevia*unitédetemps
For a Eloc value = 1367
It is enough to multiply 1367 by Kdevia
That is to say 1367 * 2,17004 10-6 =
And 0.002966448 are found
This result indicates that the trajectory of the Earth is deviated of
2.97
millimetres a second
J S -1 m -2

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This grid makes erroneous the ellipse (the times of reception are not
not equal to the times of emission of the gravitational signals)
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I return you to the equation which will take the place of the stupid
things
positivists of Lorentz

They are Newton-compatible

Thank you

Yanick Toutain

The relativistic cretins impolite fellows are exempted to answer (idem
for the partisans of the Heisenberg fascist and mechanics
quantum)
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