Angelina Jolie reveals she had double mastectomy

[John H. Gohde]

Angelina Jolie reveals she had double mastectomy

http://tinyurl.com/croy47k

Angelina Jolie revealed today that she recently underwent a preventive
double mastectomy after learning she carries a gene that puts her at
high risk for breast cancer.

(In an op-ed in Tuesday’s New York Times, the Oscar-winning movie star
wrote that she wrapped up three months of surgical procedures,
including reconstructive surgery, in late April.
“I wanted to write this to tell other women that the decision to have
a mastectomy was not easy,” Jolie writes. “But it is one I am very
happy that I made. My chances of developing breast cancer have dropped
from 87 percent to under 5 percent. I can tell my children that they
don’t need to fear they will lose me to breast cancer.”

Jolie, who has six children with fiancé Brad Pitt, writes that her
mother, actress Marcheline Bertrand, died at 59 after a long battle
with ovarian cancer. That prompted Jolie to pursue genetic testing and
discover she carries the BRCA1 gene, with a high likelihood of both
breast and ovarian cancer. “I started with the breasts, as my risk of
breast cancer is higher than my risk of ovarian cancer, and the
surgery is more complex.”
While acknowledging that the cost of genetic screening is high — as
much as $3,000 — Jolie writes that she hopes more women “will be able
to get gene tested” and “know that they have strong options.”

[John H. Gohde]

I hope that MORE progressive females STOP buying into the lies of
conventional medicine hook, line, and sinker and START being rational
for the first time in their lives by getting serious about vitamin D.

Breast cancer is a vitamin D deficiency disease.

http://tinyurl.com/ckzpks4

Here is an introductory article on How to Easily Prevent Most Breast
Cancer.

http://tinyurl.com/7b77fkp

ALL age-related epithelial cancers are a vitamin D deficiency
disease. And, I do NOT mind saying so. :)

ALL that the Science Psychos have to offer on these ngs is a pack of
lies and their silence on important health issues.

Please Science Psychos do yourselves in for the betterment of man and
woman kind.

[vittyguy]

"ALL age-related epithelial cancers are a vitamin D deficiency
disease. And, I do NOT mind saying so. :)"

Nope.

"ALL that the Science Psychos have to offer on these ngs is a pack of lies
and their silence on important health issues."

Hmmm, then the wing nut will in the next breath use some science based
study to support his rant, go figure.

[vittyguy]

Sad to hear, what relevance to nutrition?

[John H. Gohde]

On May 14, 9:30 am, vitty guy wrote:

> Sad to hear, what relevance to nutrition?

THREAD Ngs: misc.health.alternative, sci.med, sci.med.nutrition,
talk.politics.medicine, sci.life-extension

ROFLOL

This Bozo asks: what relevance to nutrition?

I ask: What School did YOU go to?

[vittyguy]

"This Bozo asks: what relevance to nutrition?

I ask: What School did YOU go to?"

All the news accounts speak of the rare genetic basis for the high risk for
breast and overy cancer. What relevance then for nutrition?

[Taka]

On May 14, 10:30 pm, vitty guy wrote:
> Sad to hear, what relevance to nutrition?

Actually quite a lot. Just check keywords like prostaglandin and
breast/prostate cancer and then look up where they come from. Well I
give a hint - VitF. My point is that mammals who don't eat VitF or
cannot synthesize prostaglandins (due to genetic mutation) don't die
and some can even reproduce. Certainly they don't get any invasive
form of cancer and many other inflammation-related diseases. So to
remain cancer free you got the choices - cut the target organs off,
keep discharging the prostaglandins from the organs (breastfeeding or
jerking off) or don't feed the body the prostaglandin precursors.
Physical workout also marginally clears the prostaglandins from the
body (by burning them in the muscle - DOMS). As far as Gohde's
prostate is concerned VitD is a double edged sword. It helps cellular
differentiation and apoptosis but it also stimulates androgens which
cause prostate overgrowth. Moreover, in the long term more molecular
damage accumulates in the tissues exposed to steroids like VitD and
DHT. Hence if he manages to escape PC he will die younger from organ
failure (considered a natural cause) or Parkinson. You may encounter
prostaglandin-supercharged men in Jamaica (favorite British women sex
tourism destination) and the opposite at the Greek Mt. Athos.

Taka

[Taka]

On May 15, 12:52 am, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You may encounter
> prostaglandin-supercharged men in Jamaica (favorite British women sex
> tourism destination) and the opposite at the Greek Mt. Athos.

Live a monk's life to avoid cancer

Living like a monk may have more than spiritual benefits, with a
recent study into one of the world's most isolated monastic
communities in Greece revealing that such dietary and healthy living
habits resulted in lower cancer rates.

The dietary and lifestyle habits of monks in the all-male community in
Mount Athos have shown that regular consumption of olive oil, daily
portions of fish, seasonal fruit and vegetables are among the main
contributors towards keeping prostate cancer below international
averages, data presented by urologist Haralambos Aidonopoulos showed.

"It is not just the Mediterranean diet that helps, but generally a
diet consisting of old, traditional standards," Aidonopoulos said. He
said he had examined hundreds of monks living on Mount Athos since
1994 and found that the incidence of prostate cancer was four times
lower than the international average.

The study found that in the last 13 years, there had been 11 reported
cases of prostate cancer among the more than 1,500 monks living in the
20 different monasteries in the segregated community in northwest
Greece from which women are banned.

Other factors in the same study shown to keep prostate cancer at bay
were the stress-free existence of the monks away from women, proper
sleep patterns and the lack of air pollution.

The lifestyle habits and traditions of the various monasteries on the
peninsula, which the Prince of Wales visits regularly and which are
only accessible by boat, have not changed in 1,000 years. Meals on
Mount Athos are simple and do not contain meat, but fish is a regular
fare on holidays and feast days such as Christmas and Easter.

The staple foods are bread, olives, vegetables, rice, pasta, soya
dishes and fruit. In fact, the monks grow much of what they consume
themselves. Monks usually indulge in a glass of red wine, which is
made locally from mountain grapes, with their dinner but on fast days,
Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, they abstain from wine, olive oil and
dairy products altogether.

Many of the monastic communities on Mount Athos eat twice a day, and
have bread and tea for breakfast and a supper of lentils, salad and
fruit, except during the rigorous fasting periods of the Orthodox
Church, when some will eat only at midday.

The average day begins with an hour of prayer before dawn and meal
times are conducted in silence while one of the monks usually reads a
passage from the Bible. The monks normally have to eat at great speed
because once the reading is over the meal is officially completed. The
rest of the day is spent doing chores such as cleaning, attending to
crops and cooking followed by evening prayers.

SOURCE: http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2008-01-05/news/27720508_1_prostate-cancer-monks-mount-athos

http://www.wellness.com/news/2566/live-like-a-monk-on-greece-s-mount-athos-to-avoid-cancer/health-and-wellness-news

---------------------------

How do Mount Athos Monks stay so healthy?

If you want to live a long healthy life, you could do worse than
joining the monks atop Mount Athos in Greece.

On Easter Sunday, "60 Minutes" profiled many of the Orthodox monks
that have dedicated their lives to following the words and deeds of
Christ. It's a job they take seriously. Prayers have been offered at
Mount Athos every day, with no interruption, for more than a thousand
years.

"The monks here have one goal, and that is how they can get closer to
God," Father Serapion told "60 Minutes" correspondent Bob Simon.

But the monks have also benefited in an unexpected way - they live
long lives with shockingly low levels of cancer and heart disease.
Alzheimer's is virtually unheard of.

Is it the holy water?

Actually, say scientists, it might be what they are eating, rather
than drinking.

"What seems to be the key is a diet that alternates between olive oil
and non olive oil days, and plenty of plant proteins", Haris
Aidonopoulos, a urologist at the University of Thessaloniki, told The
Independent in 2007. "It's not only what we call the Mediterranean
diet, but also eating the old-fashioned way. Simple meals at regular
intervals are very important."

Before you go running out to buy the Mount Athos diet book (there
isn't one), you might want to consider their meal plan.

"They eat two meals a day. The 'first meal' lasts 10 minutes; the
'second meal' also lasts 10 minutes," Simon reported. "There's no meat
and no dinner table conversation - the only sound is a monk reading
from sacred texts."

Still, the results seem impressive. The health of 1,500 monks was
studied between 1994 and 2007. None had developed lung or bowel
cancer. Only 11 had prostate cancer, a fraction of the international
rate, according to the The Independent.

The benefits associated with the Mediterranean diet - lower rates of
cancer, heart disease, Parkinson's and Alzheimer's - have long been
touted. And it's not that hard to follow. Eat mostly fruits and
vegetables, use herbs instead of salt, replace red meat with fish and
lean poultry, and ditch the butter for olive oil. Also, be sure to
throw in a few glasses of red wine. And, perhaps most importantly, get
plenty of exercise.

The monks on Mount Athos don't have any treadmills, but you won't
catch them sitting on the couch watching TV either. They don't
actually have any televisions, or radios or newspapers for that
matter. What they do have, is plenty of manual labor: picking fruit
from the gardens, clearing brush and hauling building materials
through the mountains via mules.

It's not an easy life - the monks don't have wives or children. In
fact, women aren't allowed on the property at all. And the monks
rarely leave, not even for the funerals of their closest loved ones.

When asked if he regretted not seeing his father one more time before
he died, Father Iakovos told Simon, "Not at all... I know that we're
gonna see each other in paradise one day."

SOURCE: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20056985-10391704/how-do-mount-athos-monks-stay-so-healthy/

------------------------------

Monks On Spartan Diet Super Healthy

During our two-month long trip to Greece this summer, we were shocked
at the diets of modern Greeks. In Athens, where nearly half the Greek
population lives, people eat far too much greasy, fatty, low-quality
junk food, and rich pastries far too often. Many Greeks smoke heavily.

In the past week, reports have surfaced that even as the
"Mediterranean Diet" remains trendy among American yuppies, people in
the actual Mediterranean are abandoning it. And that's why rampant
obesity, cardiovasular disease, strokes, diabetes and more is ruining
and shortening their lives.

But not everywhere. Greeks on the male-only religious community of
Mount Athos eat a diet very close to the Spartan Diet. According to
Reuters:

"The monks also observe a high number of fast days each year. They
seldom eat meat and they cultivate their own wines, fruit and
vegetables."
In other words, they're not eating industrialized foods, and they eat
wild fish and octopus, and never domesticated animal meat.

The result? According to another report:

"Despite their average venerable age, the 2,000 monks living in 20
ancient monasteries have virtually no heart disease, no cardiac
arrests and no strokes, a zero-incidence of Alzheimer’s disease which
astonished the researchers conducting the various studies, and
unusually low rates of cancer, which in the case of prostate cancer is
4 times lower than the international average. The latter finding is
even more remarkable when you know that the monks in that particular
investigation were aged between 50 and 104. Their rates of lung, bowel
and bladder cancer are zero."
As good as it is, it's likely that the Monk's diet isn't quite as
healthy as the Spartan Diet. For example, they're not getting a wide
variety of nutritous superfoods from around the world. Their breakfast
consists of hard bread and tea, rather than a typical Spartan Diet
breakfast of whole grain cereal and fruit. They do eat some dairy from
domesticated animals. In other words, Monks on Mount Athos are among
the healthiest people on earth, but you can be even healthier by
getting on the Spartan Diet.

The main cancer monks get is prostate cancer. Studies have shown that
frequent sex is necessary to reduce prostate cancer, so this could
explain why of all cancers, this is the one they get.

The monks on Mount Athos prove that a long, healthy, disease-free life
results from:

1. Fasting and calorie restriction
2. Eating a diet consisting primarily of plant foods
3. Avoiding all industrialized foods
4. Avoiding domesticated animal meat, and
5. Getting plenty of exercise and sunshine

But you don't have to live like a monk to get all these benefits. Just
get on the Spartan Diet.

SOURCE: http://thespartandiet.blogspot.jp/2008/08/monks-on-spartan-diet-super-healthy.html

[vittyguy]

> Sad to hear, what relevance to nutrition?

"Actually quite a lot. Just check keywords like prostaglandin and
breast/prostate cancer and then look up where they come from. Well I give
a hint - VitF. My point is that mammals who don't eat VitF or cannot
synthesize prostaglandins (due to genetic mutation) don't die and some can
even reproduce. Certainly they don't get any invasive form of cancer and
many other inflammation-related diseases. So to"

Actually likely not much at all. The example is a rare genetic based risk
factor.

[John H. Gohde]

What relevance is a Bozo?

None! So drop dead, and kindly be quick about it.

[Bob Officer]

On 14 May 2013 13:28:44 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
wrote:

Thus his current residency in my bozo bin.
--
Bob Officer
"Whoops .... now where did I put that other braincell?
It make it very hard to work things out.

Oh, I'll check up my arse ...get back to ya."
carole hubbard in Message-ID: <f3b680d9-da69-4c7e...@y5g2000pbi.googlegroups.com>

[John H. Gohde]

On May 14, 5:23 pm, Bob Officer <*.*@*.*> wrote:
> On 14 May 2013 13:28:44 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
> wrote:
>
> >"ALL age-related epithelial cancers are a vitamin D deficiency
> >disease.  And, I do NOT mind saying so.  :)"
>
> >Nope.
>
> >"ALL that the Science Psychos have to offer on these ngs is a pack of lies
> >and their silence on important health issues."
>
> >Hmmm, then the wing nut will in the next breath use some science based
> >study to support his rant, go figure.
>
> Thus his current residency in my bozo bin.
> --
> Bob Officer

Hello Bozo:

The joke is on YOU, courtesy of moi. :)

[clark]

Bob officer puts your posts in the rubbish bin - I don't.
I bought some vitamin D tablets 200 x 1000IU and will take a couple a
day. See if I notice any difference in my gene expressions.

clark

[Bob Officer]

carole, how would you know? Have you figured out how to do genetic
testing in your kitchen lab?

Did you know every time you post stupid things like that, you
embarrass your whole country.

[Marcus Aurelius]

Thank you for the original post. I congratulate Mrs. Jolie for her
heroic decision to have a double mastectomy in order to forestall
the emotional, financial, and physical ravages of breast cancer that
were highly likely to develop given that she had the BRCA1 gene.
She sets the example for other similarly situated women who choose
life, their loved ones, and reason over the personal and familial
tragedies associated with breast cancer.
My mother died of breast cancer.

[Woody]

On 5/14/2013 8:40 PM, Bob Officer wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 08:20:41 +1000, in misc.health.alternative, clark
> <.@.> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 14 May 2013 10:49:15 -0700 (PDT), "John H. Gohde"
>> <john.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On May 14, 11:23 am, vitty guy wrote:
>>>> "This Bozo asks: what relevance to nutrition?
>>>>
>>>> I ask: What School did YOU go to?"
>>>>
>>>> All the news accounts speak of the rare genetic basis for the high risk for
>>>> breast and overy cancer. What relevance then for nutrition?
>>>
>>> What relevance is a Bozo?
>>>
>>> None! So drop dead, and kindly be quick about it.
>>
>>
>> Bob officer puts your posts in the rubbish bin - I don't.
>> I bought some vitamin D tablets 200 x 1000IU and will take a couple a
>> day. See if I notice any difference in my gene expressions.
>>
>> clark
>
> carole, how would you know? Have you figured out how to do genetic
> testing in your kitchen lab?
>
> Did you know every time you post stupid things like that, you
> embarrass your whole country.

I wonder if she's ever been to Bondi Beach?

http://www.sydney-australia.biz/bondi/


At any rate, carole needs to get with the program.

http://itstopswithme.humanrights.gov.au/

--
"You're an idiot martin. Everybody knows chemo is part of the
cure process of allopathic medicine - ie cut, poison and burn,
stands for surgery, chemo and radiation." - carole hubbard
Message-ID: <ABZNq.1459$%E2....@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com>

[John H. Gohde]

Your FAMILY has my condolences for being victims of the lies of
conventional medicine.

Rather than Jolie being heroic it tells me that the Quacks in
conventional medicine will do anything for money. But finally one
physician at least has been convicted of murder for performing really
sick abortions

Breast cancer is a vitamin D deficiency disease. Which in other words
means, breast cancer is extremely easy to prevent, for NEXT to no
money with a great deal of certainty.

http://tinyurl.com/ckzpks4

Here is an introductory article on How to Easily Prevent Most Breast
Cancer.

http://tinyurl.com/7b77fkp

ALL age-related epithelial cancers are a vitamin D deficiency
disease. And, I do NOT mind saying so. :)

ALL that the Science Psychos have to offer on these ngs is a pack of
lies and their silence on important health issues.

Please Science Psychos do yourselves in for the betterment of man and
woman kind.

LOL

YES, according to the insanity of the conventional medicine Quacks it
is perfectly okay for females to have their breasts cut off. But,
THESE women better not take vitamin D cause something bad might happen
to them.

[Taka]

"The main cancer monks get is prostate cancer. Studies have shown that
frequent sex is necessary to reduce prostate cancer, so this could
explain why of all cancers, this is the one they get."

MORE: http://thespartandiet.blogspot.jp/2008/08/monks-on-spartan-diet-super-healthy.html

"Since 1994, the monks of Mt. Athos have been regularly tested, and
only 11 (the community numbers 2000) have developed prostate cancer, a
rate less than one quarter of the international average.

In one study, their rate of lung and bladder cancer was found to be
zero.

And when they get sick, there's an in-monastery doctor, Father
Ermolos, who is not very busy, because the monks are in excellent
shape: there's remarkably little cancer, virtually no heart disease
or Alzheimer's.

Monks apply from all over the world for the opportunity to live an
ascetic, mostly silent, prayerful life at one of the 20 monasteries on
Mt. Athos. They get far more applicants than they can handle & they
say it's harder to earn a spot for this lifetime silent-ascetic-
spiritual commitment, than it is to get into Harvard!

Br J Nutr. 2004--when researchers went back to Crete to look at the
health of the islanders--the group with the highest olive oil (MUFA)
consumption had the highest heart disease, and those with the lowest
olive oil intake had the the lowest heart disease. Click here and
here for more about why olive oil & the monounsaturated fats aren't
exactly health food.

Dairy products are very rare--female animals (dairy cows) are banned
from the monasteries

If the research on repetitive prayer or meditation is to be believed--
that it has a positive effect on the genes that regulate stress,
aging, and longevity--as well as increasing the supply of artery-
saving nitric oxide--reducing the stress hormone cortisol--and
reducing damage from oxidative stress--then, no wonder the Mt. Athos
monks are practically disease-free!

MORE: http://www.happyhealthylonglife.com/happy_healthy_long_life/2011/04/mt-athos.html

------------------

Well, these monks don't need to flush out the prostaglandins since
they got nearly none! They are cutting even on the olive oil which is
just 10% Omega-6. They are banned to watch even female animals like
cows let alone women. Instead of jerking off at the Comodo Dragon
they got the prayer.

Taka

[John H. Gohde]

On May 14, 6:20 pm, clark <.@.> wrote:

> I bought some vitamin D tablets 200 x 1000IU and will take a couple a
> day. See if I notice any difference in my gene expressions.

I, myself, started out pretty much on the low end too. But, after a
while the honeymoon period wears off and it gets down to busy. Your
mood should improve within 30 days.

To me, my advanced age motivated moi to get my blood levels up as fast
as possible in order to avoid cancer. In short, I take D to prevent
cancer. ALL the other health benefits, merely come along with the
total package as nice extras.

Up the dosage a bit and your energy should improve.

Being on the high end blood level wise results in you being able to
feel it. It is not so much about how I feel, as it is a more a
phenomenon of how OTHER people will react to the new you. They seem
to think that being slightly hyper and full of energy as if you have
ADHD is an ABNORMAL condition.

The good thing about vitamin D is that no body can make any money off
of it. 5,000 IU a day can be had for less than ten cents a day. Add
in the cost of the first two blood tests, then the figure jumps to 50
cents a day. Once you figure out just how much D that you personally
should be taking by way of the blood testing those tests become pretty
much necessary.

Personally, I think all the uncertainly about how much D somebody
should be taking is grossly overdone for PC reasons. The primary
factor is obviously body weight. Extremely obese individuals will
need to be taking 10,000 IU a day. So will individuals with digestion
problems. Thus, individuals who are extremely short and low in body
weight would obviously need to be taking less. People should be
applying the same logic to ALL their vitamin supplements, yet the
vitamin D people are the ONLY ones playing up this issue.

I recommend 5,000 IU for a number of reasons. That dosage is ideal for
somebody weighing 150 pounds. There is the economy of sticking to one
pill size. It clearly indicates that the 400 IU dose, is positively
NOT what I am talking about. Finally, 60% of the people in the States
are overweight. Globally the obesity epidemic is just as bad, if NOT
worst thanks to the American food industry.

[John H. Gohde]

On May 14, 6:20 pm, clark <.@.> wrote:

> I bought some vitamin D tablets 200 x 1000IU and will take a couple a
> day. See if I notice any difference in my gene expressions.
>
> clark

Oops ... I got the bit about taking vitamin D tests BACKWARDS.

It should have read as the following.

Once you figure out just how much D that you personally should be
taking by way of the blood testing those tests become pretty much

UNNECESSARY.

[vittyguy]

"YES, according to the insanity of the conventional medicine Quacks it
is perfectly okay for females to have their breasts cut off. But,
THESE women better not take vitamin D cause something bad might happen
to them."

The risk for her before surgery with the demonstrated genetic mutation was
85 percent. It falls to less then 5 percent of the wider population after.

This is evidence based medicine, where is the same to show for this genetic
mutation that any other approach produces any result worth the gamble?
There is none, only quack folk tales.

Good we have such as quackwatch to keep tabs on the folk tales.

[John H. Gohde]

109,000 vicinity of conventional medicine dye each year from properly
prescribed and administered prescription medications.

New born babies are aborted / murdered before they pass completely out
of the birth canal. Fear not, a physician has finally been convicted
of first degree murder on that issue. :)

Better for women to get their breasts cut off, for men to have their
prostate removed, and for both genders to have sections of their colon
cut out THEN for people to prevent cancer by taking REASONABLE amounts
of vitamin D. Physicians don't want something bad to happen to the
public, after all. :(

ROFLOL

If you believe that load of bull, then you fools have my condolences.

[Clayton]

Ok, I'll start taking 5,000IU a day - that's only 5 little tablets -
they're really tiny - 200 tablets for $20, so that's 10c per tablet,
50c per day, $3.50 per week. I suppose bob will say that's too much -
but OTOH when a person gets cancer its ok to spend thousands on chemo,
he doesn't have an issue with that - but just on preventative health.

I wouldn't listen to anything bob officer says. I don't know why he
wastes his time, there's nothing showing any sort of independent
thought processes there - everything he says is all just straight from
the pharmaceutical files, ie pharma-speak.

We've heard it all before bob.

Look at the top of the page on web-based mha - notice the words
"Description: Alternative, complementary and holistic health care."


Clayton

[vittyguy]

>> "YES, according to the insanity of the conventional medicine Quacks it

>> is perfectly okay for females to have their breasts cut off. =A0But,

>> THESE women better not take vitamin D cause something bad might happen
>> to them."
>>

>> The risk for her before surgery with the demonstrated genetic mutation wa=
>s
>> 85 percent. =A0It falls to less then 5 percent of the wider population af=
>ter.
>>
>> This is evidence based medicine, where is the same to show for this genet=

>ic
>> mutation that any other approach produces any result worth the gamble?
>> There is none, only quack folk tales.
>>
>> Good we have such as quackwatch to keep tabs on the folk tales.
>
>
>
>109,000 vicinity of conventional medicine dye each year from properly
>prescribed and administered prescription medications.
>
>New born babies are aborted / murdered before they pass completely out
>of the birth canal. Fear not, a physician has finally been convicted
>of first degree murder on that issue. :)
>
>Better for women to get their breasts cut off, for men to have their
>prostate removed, and for both genders to have sections of their colon
>cut out THEN for people to prevent cancer by taking REASONABLE amounts
>of vitamin D. Physicians don't want something bad to happen to the
>public, after all. :(
>
>ROFLOL
>
>If you believe that load of bull, then you fools have my condolences.

Hmmm, the good old strawman argument. A search on quackwatch shows a very
positive set of hvit d and its on the benefits of its proper intake and
supplementation where called for:

http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=vitamin+d&othersite=

So our resident bitter old man to whom the world did not come running nor
wikipedia swoon has found a partner in the common sense idea of proper vit
d levels. It's the folk at quackwatch don't ya know.

[John H. Gohde]

> http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=vitamin+d&...

>
> So our resident bitter old man to whom the world did not come running nor
> wikipedia swoon has found a partner in the common sense idea of proper vit
> d levels.  It's the folk at quackwatch don't ya know.

LOL

Would YOU mind repeating your crap, except this time in plain English?

[Bob Officer]

On 15 May 2013 18:04:26 GMT, in misc.health.alternative, vitty guy
wrote:

>

>>> "YES, according to the insanity of the conventional medicine Quacks it
>>> is perfectly okay for females to have their breasts cut off. =A0But,
>>> THESE women better not take vitamin D cause something bad might happen
>>> to them."
>>>
>>> The risk for her before surgery with the demonstrated genetic mutation wa=
>>s
>>> 85 percent. =A0It falls to less then 5 percent of the wider population af=
>>ter.
>>>
>>> This is evidence based medicine, where is the same to show for this genet=
>>ic
>>> mutation that any other approach produces any result worth the gamble?
>>> There is none, only quack folk tales.
>>>
>>> Good we have such as quackwatch to keep tabs on the folk tales.
>>
>>
>>
>>109,000 vicinity of conventional medicine dye each year from properly
>>prescribed and administered prescription medications.

"dye"? What color?

>>New born babies are aborted / murdered before they pass completely out
>>of the birth canal. Fear not, a physician has finally been convicted
>>of first degree murder on that issue. :)
>>
>>Better for women to get their breasts cut off, for men to have their
>>prostate removed, and for both genders to have sections of their colon
>>cut out THEN for people to prevent cancer by taking REASONABLE amounts
>>of vitamin D. Physicians don't want something bad to happen to the
>>public, after all. :(
>>
>>ROFLOL
>>
>>If you believe that load of bull, then you fools have my condolences.
>
>Hmmm, the good old strawman argument. A search on quackwatch shows a very
>positive set of hvit d and its on the benefits of its proper intake and
>supplementation where called for:
>
>http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=vitamin+d&othersite=
>
>So our resident bitter old man to whom the world did not come running nor
>wikipedia swoon has found a partner in the common sense idea of proper vit
>d levels. It's the folk at quackwatch don't ya know.

Here is a case of an overdose of Vit D. Gull null self inflected
poisoning.

http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/null.html
<cite>

In April 2010, Null sued the manufacturer of Gary Null's Ultimate
Power Meal. The complaint alleged:

The product was produced with 1,000 times as much vitamin D as it
should have. By consuming two servings a day, Null consumed 60
million IU during the month he used the product.

Null began having severe symptoms in December 2009 and believes he
nearly died from kidney toxicity.

It took three months to "get his blood seemingly back to where he
was able to function, but he continued to occasionally urinate
blood."

While he was ill, Null "had dozens of his customers calling him,
as well as threatening and condemning him," and six users of the
product were hospitalized with severe kidney damage [17].

During the next few days, Null's Web sites posted at least three
reactions to publicity about the suit. One said that he was
"completely and totally healthy and everything is fine." Another said
that "none of the retail product reached the market" and he had
"returned to complete health." But after a Los Angeles Times blog
noted that these statements contradicted what the lawsuit said, Null
replaced them with one that said he was "feeling substantially
better." Two weeks later, he filed an amended complaint that omitted
all of the allegations related to his own alleged illness and claimed
only that his company had suffered damage to its reputation [18].
Since then, three lawsuits have been filed against Null, his company,
and the suppliers. Two were filed by product users who became ill
[19, 20], and the third was filed by the estate of a woman whose
illness led to death [21]. The first two suits were settled with
undisclosed terms. It may be interesting to see whether the remaining
suit uncovers anything about Null's credentials.


17. Complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/complaint.shtml)
Gary Null and Gary Null & Associates against Triarco Industries, Inc.
New York State Supreme Court Case No. 10601070, filed April 26, 2010.
18. Amended complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/amended_complaint.pdf) Gary Null
& Associates against Triarco Industries, Inc. New York State Supreme
Court Case No. 10601070, filed May 10, 2010.
19. Verified complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/schmidt/complaint.shtml)
William Schmidt and Jennifer Maslowski against Archon Vitamin Corp.,
Triarco Industries, Gary Null & Associates, Inc., and Gary Null,
individually. New York State Supreme Court, filed May 10, 2010.
20. Verified complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/amato/complaint.pdf)
Patricia Amato against Archon Vitamin Corp., Triarco Industries, Gary
Null & Associates, Inc., and Gary Null, individually. New York State
Supreme Court, filed June 8, 2010.
21.Complaint.
(http://www.casewatch.org/civil/null/shulman/complaint.pdf)
Jack A. Shulman individually and as executor of the estate of Helen
K. Shulman against Triarco Industries, Archon Vitamin Corp, Gary Null
& Associates, Inc., Gary Null's Uptown Whole Foods, Inc., Gary Null
Consulting, Inc. and Gary Null, individually. New York State Supreme
Court, filed Dec 29, 2011.
</cite>

[John H. Gohde]

> >http://www.quackwatch.org/search/webglimpse.cgi?ID=1&query=vitamin+d&...

Bob is like the Republican Party. He actually thinks that he can be a
prolific liar while insulting virtually everybody and still win the
public over to his side.

I do NOT care about the babble of liars. :)

[John H. Gohde]

On May 14, 7:39 am, "John H. Gohde" <john.h.go...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Angelina Jolie reveals she had double mastectomy
>
http://tinyurl.com/croy47k
>
> Angelina Jolie revealed today that she recently underwent a preventive
> double mastectomy after learning she carries a gene that puts her at
> high risk for breast cancer.
>
> (In an op-ed in Tuesday’s New York Times, the Oscar-winning movie star
> wrote that she wrapped up three months of surgical procedures,
> including reconstructive surgery, in late April.
> “I wanted to write this to tell other women that the decision to have
> a mastectomy was not easy,” Jolie writes. “But it is one I am very
> happy that I made. My chances of developing breast cancer have dropped
> from 87 percent to under 5 percent. I can tell my children that they
> don’t need to fear they will lose me to breast cancer.”
>
> Jolie, who has six children with fiancé Brad Pitt, writes that her
> mother, actress Marcheline Bertrand, died at 59 after a long battle
> with ovarian cancer. That prompted Jolie to pursue genetic testing and
> discover she carries the BRCA1 gene, with a high likelihood of both
> breast and ovarian cancer. “I started with the breasts, as my risk of
> breast cancer is higher than my risk of ovarian cancer, and the
> surgery is more complex.”
> While acknowledging that the cost of genetic screening is high — as
> much as $3,000 — Jolie writes that she hopes more women “will be able
> to get gene tested” and “know that they have strong options.”


Any Day with Vitamin D is a Good Day!