Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Supplements Have Distroyed My Joints

28 views
Skip to first unread message

jwcizu...@mailinator.com

unread,
Aug 2, 2008, 6:04:30 PM8/2/08
to
Hello,

I have started two threads on how supplements have distroyed my
joints. Here they are:

http://www.imminst.org/forum/300-MG-Trans-Resveratrol-Making-My-Joints-Hurt-t21432.html

and

http://forum.lef.org/default.aspx?f=35&m=47492

I would greatly appreciate any input on how this may have occured.

Thanks.

Taka

unread,
Aug 5, 2008, 10:29:16 PM8/5/08
to
On Aug 3, 7:04 am, jwcizuvzt...@mailinator.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have started two threads on how supplements have distroyed my
> joints. Here they are:
>
> http://www.imminst.org/forum/300-MG-Trans-Resveratrol-Making-My-Joint...

>
> and
>
> http://forum.lef.org/default.aspx?f=35&m=47492
>
> I would greatly appreciate any input on how this may have occured.
>
> Thanks.

Yep, exactly what happened to me too. Since it destroyed my knee
cartilage and damaged the digestive system I have done an extensive
research on the topic - see my previous posts and this forum:

http://tinyurl.com/59gt6p

From your post on the other forum:

QUOTE: And I don't know how to isolate which supplement is causin the
problem: I use LEF Mix and Super Booster, alpha-lipoic acid, fish oil,
calcium, glucosamine, rhodiola, ashwagandha, phosphatidyloserine. How
do i tell which ingredient in LEF Mix or SuperBooster is causing the
problem, or if it's any of the other stuff? UNQUOTE.

In my case I tracked it to the deadly combination of FISH OIL + alpha-
lipoic acid + resveratrol. I am not sure about the molecular
mechanism in the case of alpha-lipoic acid but for the other 2 guys I
am quite sure now. Deadly when combined with strenuous exercise which
needs the Mead acid and possibly also some amounts of arachidonic acid
(AA) eicosanoids for proper tissue regeneration. All these "healthy"
supplements are calibrated for sedentary omega-6/AA overloaded folks
suffering from chronic inflammation not induced by the sports wear-and-
tear activities.

I have managed to stop further damage by trashing the supplements and
restricting dietary PUFAs but regrowing back the lost/broken cartilage
is quite difficult past 40. Hope the regenerative medicine will
progress fast and meanwhile there is the prolotherapy treatment. With
the latest hGH intraocular injections the results are quite impressive
- http://www.prolonews.com/prolotherapy_diet_hormones_golf.htm

Thanks to Monty/HansSelyeWasCorrect who put me on the right track in
learning the molecular mechanisms behind these health issues. Without
him, I might be already in a cryonic chamber at this moment ...

Taka

RF

unread,
Aug 6, 2008, 12:12:39 AM8/6/08
to

Were the LEF "experts" any help?

Taka

unread,
Aug 6, 2008, 4:25:51 AM8/6/08
to
On Aug 6, 1:12 pm, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote:
> Were the LEF "experts" any help?

They just use whatever crap gets published to defend their sales
tactics. I know first hand how some of the data being published in so
called peer-review journals actually get generated. Those students
and postdocs striving for money and prestige positions would do
anything to please their bosses including fabricating results to match
their professors naive or politically-correct ideas. The peer-review
system only works for the "hot topics" in which your peers are
interested. In the case you are publishing boring stuff you are safe
from ending like this - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7296973.stm
Todays computer copy-paste performance outperforms the peer's brain
performance needed for validation and they are not going to reduce the
ever rising number of publications because it's all about the
money ...

Taka

men...@gmail.com

unread,
Aug 6, 2008, 10:47:36 AM8/6/08
to

would you have some evidence?

RF

unread,
Aug 6, 2008, 3:28:12 PM8/6/08
to

Interesting comment Taka!

I am a member and sent them a few questions on
medical problems but I never had an answer.

ouqxoz...@mailinator.com

unread,
Aug 21, 2008, 2:07:29 AM8/21/08
to
On Aug 6, 1:25 am, Taka <taka0...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 1:12 pm, RF <R...@NoDen.con> wrote:
>
> > Were the LEF "experts" any help?

The MD on the LEF Advisors department told me it could be varous
scenarios, but that I had to be analyzed by a physician to find out
for sure. I did, and the physician concluded I was okey, based on the
blood test. But, obviously I am not okey, since my joints are
breaking down.

polymedes

unread,
Aug 22, 2008, 9:31:20 AM8/22/08
to

6 months ago I noticed that resveratrol affects the tendons and I
immediately stopped using it. Later I read that resveratrol is a
copper chelator. Most probably this is the reason for damaging the
tendons.

0 new messages