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Rick5

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Jan 15, 2007, 3:14:52 PM1/15/07
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Hi all,

I am curious what some of you do in terms of drinking water. I drank
bottled water for years, but came across some web reports indicating that
bottled water is not necessarily any safer than plain old tap water. I want
to research this area further, but for now, I am drinking tap water with a
home filtration system. I am planning on having my water tested after being
run through the filter to see how it compares to my city's water quality
report.
Thanks!


Paul Antonik Wakfer

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Jan 15, 2007, 5:20:51 PM1/15/07
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I have, for over 10 years, for all cooking and drinking (including tea
making), used water from a reverse osmosis (RO), with post charcoal
filter, home system. At my summer home, rather than transporting my
water maker back and forth, I use either local well water or preboiled
lake water (a small lake filled by local runoff).

I particularly use this water for cooking since I then drink or
otherwise ingest all cooking waters.
The only RO and filtered water that I do not use is the left over soak
water for beans.

--Paul Wakfer

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Rick5

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Jan 15, 2007, 5:24:44 PM1/15/07
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"Paul Antonik Wakfer" <pa...@morelife.org> wrote in message
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> I have, for over 10 years, for all cooking and drinking (including tea
> making), used water from a reverse osmosis (RO), with post charcoal
> filter, home system. At my summer home, rather than transporting my
> water maker back and forth, I use either local well water or preboiled
> lake water (a small lake filled by local runoff).


Thank you, Paul!


Jason Johnson

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Jan 15, 2007, 7:14:30 PM1/15/07
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello,
Unless you have a system that distills the water, you should drink bottled
water. Most tap water has Floride and chlorine. Large amounts of those
chemicals are harmful. Unless the water is distilled, lots of floride
and chlorine remains in the water. If people get their water from a spring
or well--in most cases--that water is safe to drink but it should be tested
to make sure that it is safe.
jason
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Ted

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Jan 15, 2007, 7:59:33 PM1/15/07
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Right now I have a Pur filter hooked up to the faucet to get rid of the
chlorine etc... You have to be careful about some of these reports
saying that bottled water is no better than tap water. I have seen
reports that say this because there was no difference in bacteria
content. That is all that was looked at, as if that was the reason that
people used bottled water......DUH! And of course that is not the
reason I would use bottled water or filtered water. I absolutely hate
chlorine. And I don't want other contaminates either. Here is an
intersting filter that I am considering.

http://www.bestfilters.com/AQ4000C.html

Rick5

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Jan 15, 2007, 8:49:36 PM1/15/07
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"Ted" <chuckf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Right now I have a Pur filter hooked up to the faucet to get rid of the
> chlorine etc... You have to be careful about some of these reports
> saying that bottled water is no better than tap water. I have seen
> reports that say this because there was no difference in bacteria
> content. That is all that was looked at, as if that was the reason that
> people used bottled water......DUH! And of course that is not the
> reason I would use bottled water or filtered water. I absolutely hate
> chlorine. And I don't want other contaminates either. Here is an
> intersting filter that I am considering.
>
> http://www.bestfilters.com/AQ4000C.html


Hi Ted,

The aquasana you linked to above is the filter I am currently using. One
thing I don't like about it is that is only reduces flouride by about 50%.
It supposedly filters out 99% of chlorine. There is a lot of good
information about it on the aquasana website, but I'm going to opt for
testing my filtered water independently within the next month or two.
Regarding bottled water, the thing that would make me most comfortable would
be to test a few brands repeatedly through a reputable lab, but obviously
that would cost a lot of $$$.

Rick

David Wright

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Jan 16, 2007, 12:03:51 AM1/16/07
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In article <jason-15010...@66-52-22-35.lsan.pw-dia.impulse.net>,

In many cases, bottled water *is* tap water. It doesn't necessarily
taste any better than tap water, either, nor is it necessarily any
more free from bacteria.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If George Bush were my dad, I'd be drunk in public so often that
James Baker would have me killed." -- Bill Maher on the Bush twins

ABBAS EL-TA'ALU

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Jan 16, 2007, 6:16:39 AM1/16/07
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Dear co-member,
Water can be lively when some important
properties in it are present. In this condition it effectively plays
its utmost roles in detoxification, ..., and can be dead when those
properties disappear.The word 'property' is relative because different
people attach different meanings to it. Glimpsing into what alternative
Physicians say would help you greatly in your 'Water Research. Let us
cross fingers.

ABBAS EL-TA'ALU

Ted

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Jan 16, 2007, 10:05:48 AM1/16/07
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I am aware of the 50% floride, but I don't really know that much about
floride and how important it is to get rid of. I do however seem to
recall that the only way to get rid of all that floride is by using
something like Tom is using....the reverse osmosis (sp?). I am pretty
sure that this method gets rid of all of it. But I have also heard that
it takes all of the minerals out too.

scot...@gmail.com

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Jan 16, 2007, 4:51:00 PM1/16/07
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As an aside, a great shower filter is also recommended, as the vapor
created in a shower results in a great deal of chlorine that enters
into the lungs. Fluoride, I'm not so sure about in the shower. Both
should be completely avoided, IMO.

Scott Miller

Rick5

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Jan 16, 2007, 7:52:03 PM1/16/07
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<scot...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> As an aside, a great shower filter is also recommended, as the vapor
> created in a shower results in a great deal of chlorine that enters
> into the lungs. Fluoride, I'm not so sure about in the shower. Both
> should be completely avoided, IMO.
>
> Scott Miller

Yeah, got one of those too. It's amazing how different showers feel with
versus without a filter.

Rick


Rick5

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Jan 16, 2007, 8:07:56 PM1/16/07
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"Ted" <chuckf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I am aware of the 50% floride, but I don't really know that much about
> floride and how important it is to get rid of. I do however seem to
> recall that the only way to get rid of all that floride is by using
> something like Tom is using....the reverse osmosis (sp?). I am pretty
> sure that this method gets rid of all of it. But I have also heard that
> it takes all of the minerals out too.


Ted,

Apparently you can also remove flouride with an activated alumina filter. I
found this last night:

http://www.excelwater.com/eng/b2c/detailproduct.php?iID=380&Category=18

I suppose you could run this filter followed by a carbon filter like the
aqusana. BTW, I saw on an austrailian website that aquasana is supposed to
release a flouride filter, but it's still about a year off. I emailed them
to ask. I may stick with my carbon filter with an additional flouride
filter. I may still think about reverse osmosis, but they are more
expensive and fairly inefficient from what I understand. What times we live
in! There will probably be 50,000 toxins in our drinking water 30 or 40
years from now. :)

Rick

David Wright

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Jan 16, 2007, 10:35:35 PM1/16/07
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In article <1168959947.5...@m58g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,

In general, water is not a signficant source of minerals (aside from
fluoride), so no real worries there. You could drink distilled water
for the rest of your life without it affecting your nutrition much.

Bob Arnold

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Jan 18, 2007, 8:39:53 AM1/18/07
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In article <1168984258.1...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"scot...@gmail.com" <scot...@gmail.com> wrote:

If you're worried about the chlorine in your shower, I hope you never
get near a swimming pool.

Ted

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Jan 18, 2007, 2:54:16 PM1/18/07
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Thanks for the info. I may have just overlooked it, but I did not see
where they stated how much floride was reduced. It just said that it
reduced floride.

Rick5

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Jan 18, 2007, 5:17:16 PM1/18/07
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"Ted" <chuckf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the info. I may have just overlooked it, but I did not see
> where they stated how much floride was reduced. It just said that it
> reduced floride.


Excellent point. I don't know. By the way, aquasana responded to my email
and said they *do not* have plans to make a separate flouride filter. Here
is what they said:

Our systems remove 2 of the 4 fluorine isotopes giving you a 40-60%
reduction. The four isotopes of fluorine include two that are a natural
occurring minerals and two that are man made by-products, called fluoride
silicate, that originated in aluminum processing plants. The fluoride
silicate isotopes are the two isotopes that are considered to be hazardous
and are taken out of the water with our filtration systems. The two natural
isotopes are not considered hazardous and are not removed from the water.


Does this seem reasonable? Anyone?

Rick

Erich Brueschke

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Jan 18, 2007, 7:12:29 PM1/18/07
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Just drink distilled or doubled distilled water from Walmart. Very
cheap per gallon. This is what I used to do before I purchased a home
distiller from pure water systems. I also had this water tested many
times over the years (the Walmart water) and it always tests as being
very clean with no detectable impurities or bacteria. The same goes for
my water distiller from Pure Water.
(www.purewaterinc.com/html/products__pure_waterinc.htm)

Erich

On Jan 18, 5:17 pm, "Rick5" <n...@no.spam> wrote:
> "Ted" <chuckfras...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1169150056.2...@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


>
> > Thanks for the info. I may have just overlooked it, but I did not see
> > where they stated how much floride was reduced. It just said that it

> > reduced floride.Excellent point. I don't know. By the way, aquasana responded to my email

Ted

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Jan 19, 2007, 2:49:38 AM1/19/07
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Thanks. That is very interesting.

Tom

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Jan 20, 2007, 1:47:34 PM1/20/07
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To settle home water quality once and for all there's low cost water testing
offered by the Environmental Quality Institute of the Univ. of North
Carolina for lead for $24, lead and copper for $30, and arsenic for $20.

More information may be found at
http://www.leadtesting.org/

and order form at
http://www.leadtesting.org/orderonline.htm

I don't see why one could not substitute home water for bottled water when
samples are sent in. They don't seem to have tests for fluoride and
chlorine though.

Tom

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