> On Sep 15, 4:44 am, Athel Cornish-Bowden <acorn...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

> > On 2012-09-15 05:44:43 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:

> > > On 2012-09-11 08:21:47 +0000, Dieter Britz said:

> > >> There are words made up that repeat themselves. E.g.
> > >> the Turkish bread I bought was called pidebrød, which means
> > >> (flat)bread bread. I once read about a fort in Turkey that
> > >> originally had a Turkish name meaning "Fort", then became
> > >> "Redoubt <turkish name>", and later "Fort Redoubt <..>",
> > >> so it was Fort Fort Fort.

> > >> What is the name for this sort of thing?

> > > I'm surprised that no one seems to have mentioned "River Avon", of
> > > which there are numerous examples, especially in England but also
> > > elsewere, "afon" being the Welsh for "river".

> > Not to mention Mount Berg (Canada) and Mount Sierra (California --
> > where they ought to know better -- and South Africa).

> in Turkey this sentence is used to mock people who don't know Perso-
> Arabisms:

> Bab-I A^li^'nin yUksek kapIsInda ayIn mehtab I$Ig~Inda bir atlI
> sUvariye tesadUfen rastladIm.

> "at the high gate of the Sublime Porte in the light of the moon's
> moonlight l coincidentally met by chance a horseback cavalryman."

> bab : Arabic ba:b "gate"
> a^li^ : Arabic 3a:li: "high"
> yUksek : Turkish "high"
> ay  : Turkish "moon"
> mehtab : Persian moonlight (ma:h, mah "moon"; ta:b light)
> I$Ik : Turkish "light"
> atlI "horseback"; at "horse"
> sUvari : Persian su:va:ri: "cavalryman"
> tesadUfen : Arabic tasa:duf-an "coincidentally"
> rastla= to meet by chance; based on Persian ra:st "right, correct,
> good".