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From: "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: Page Layout in Books
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On Apr 26, 9:52=A0pm, DKleinecke <dkleine...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 25, 7:28=A0pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
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>
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> > On Apr 25, 8:00=A0pm, DKleinecke <dkleine...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 25, 5:23=A0am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrot=
e:
>
> > > > On Apr 24, 11:17=A0pm, DKleinecke <dkleine...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Apr 22, 11:33=A0pm, "pauljk" <paul.kr...@xtra.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "Ruud Harmsen" <r...@rudhar.com> wrote in message
>
> > > > > >news:qgs9p79sddp3sm4nt8i53umijmhv6qkp4g@4ax.com...
>
> > > > > > > DKleinecke <dkleine...@gmail.com> schreef/wrote:
>
> > > > > > >>On Sunday, April 22, 2012 4:38:24 AM UTC-7, Peter T. Daniels =
wrote:
> > > > > > >>> On Apr 21, 11:11 pm, DKleinecke <dkleine...@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
>
> > > > > > >>> BTW, from the way your postings are quoted, it appears that=
 you are
> > > > > > >>> typing in very, very, very long lines all the way across yo=
ur screen
> > > > > > >>> and then some. Try to find the "line length" parameter and =
set it for
> > > > > > >>> 70 characters, the industry standard.
>
> > > > > > >>I have no problem at this end. Automatic word wrap works just=
 fine in Google Groups
> > > > > > >>for me. =A0I can't find any "line length" for me to fiddle wi=
th. Perhaps Google was
> > > > > > >>just misbehaving again.
>
> > > > > > > I have. Lines broken in the middle of words, and endlessly lo=
ng line
> > > > > > > when quoting your text.
>
> > > > > > My WLM breaks DK's super long one line paragraphs between
> > > > > > words, so that looks okay. However, only the first line of the =
resulting
> > > > > > 'wrapped around' paragraph is marked with the usual '>' quote m=
ark.
> > > > > > The following wrapped around lines look like fresh contribution=
s,
> > > > > > i.e. they are not prefixed with quotes.
>
> > > > > > It ends up looking a horrible mess especially after the thread =
has
> > > > > > been contributed to by DK more than once.
>
> > > > > > Franz used to have this problem at one stage and IIRC he
> > > > > > solved it by not relying on the auto-wrap-around and hitting
> > > > > > Enter now and then to enter explicit line-breaks.
>
> > > > > > As far as I can tell, you are using Google, and no other
> > > > > > Google users have this problem, perhaps they could tell
> > > > > > you what needs to be done. Otherwise you could do
> > > > > > what Franz does.
>
> > > > > > pjk
>
> > > > > > > This is what I see before quoting:
> > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D
> > > > > > >> BTW, from the way your postings are quoted, it appears that =
you are
> > > > > > >> typing in very, very, very long lines all the way across you=
r screen
> > > > > > >> and then some. Try to find the "line length" parameter and s=
et it for
> > > > > > >> 70 characters, the industry standard.
> > > > > > > =3D20
> > > > > > > I have no problem at this end. Automatic word wrap works just=
 fine in
> > > > > > > Googl=3D
> > > > > > > e Groups for me. =A0I can't find any "line length" for me to =
fiddle
> > > > > > > with. Per=3D
> > > > > > > haps Google was just misbehaving again. =3D20
> > > > > > > /=3D=3D=3D
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Ruud Harmsen,http://rudhar.com/new
>
> > > > > I may be the only Google users trying to use the New Google Group=
s.
> > > > > Today New Groups is just giving me server errors. I'm back on the=
 old
> > > > > Google Groups (on Chrome) and everything seems just like it was i=
n the
> > > > > good old days.
>
> > > > > There is some element of bias against Sci.Lang. =A0At least one o=
ther
> > > > > group still works in the New Groups.-
>
> > > > They threatened to replace GG with NGG months ago. I tried it for a
> > > > few minutes, found all the features it had removed and all the bugs
> > > > (that's not the right word: things it thinks are features that are
> > > > pointless, such as displaying every page linked to), and tried to s=
end
> > > > a comment; and the comment was "not accepted." Perhaps because it
> > > > included the word "crap." Presumably they have received so many
> > > > negative comments that theiy're rethinking their act.
>
> > > I am using the new version again today and today it is working - at
> > > least at this end. =A0Google was working on it - GOK why - and lost
> > > control. =A0Hopefully they are back in control.
>
> > > The new version takes some getting used to and, of course, being
> > > Google they have never made the slightest attempt to explain WHY they
> > > made changes. =A0But it does everything I want to do - =A0post, read =
other
> > > people's posts and make replies. There seem be some other things I
> > > might do but to me they are just more of the useless baggage
> > > (featuritis) that so much software is inflicted with these days.-
>
> > So it has been greatly changed since about two months ago?
>
> > You can now (again) view the entire thread arranged "by reply," as
> > they currently call it? Or "by date," if you need to know what's been
> > put up recently? You no longer have to wait forever while it displays
> > every web page ever linked to in the thread?
>
> I haven't tried "by reply" because "by date" works just fine for me.
> Actually seems to, at least some times open exactly the point It ended
> the previous time I used it.

Use "By reply" once and you'll never default to "By date" again. It
enables you to follow a single conversation at a time.

> I think they have been changing it almost daily and, if they ever get
> to a place they like, they will edict everybody over. =A0Google is a
> strange outfit.-