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Peter T. Daniels  
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 More options Sep 30 2012, 12:56 pm
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english, sci.lang
From: "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 09:56:26 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Sep 30 2012 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: square meters Re: Olympic question(s)
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On Sep 30, 10:34 am, "analys...@hotmail.com" <analys...@hotmail.com>
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> On Sep 30, 8:39 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:

> > On Sep 30, 3:49 am, "Guy Barry" <guy.ba...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> > > "Peter T. Daniels"  wrote in messagenews:00e7cc6f-2fe5-42d8-8cfc-34a59e9e64cd@e14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...

> > > > What is a "sprog"? Context suggests it's a brooksism for 'heir to the
> > > > throne'.

> > > Slang term for "child".

> > sounds just as rude as "snog" and "shag."

> PTD's linguistic dogmatist hat must have been off ("the attachment of
> meaning to sounds is arbitrary") that time.

???

Where did you get that from????

You actually _know about_ what are usually called "expressives" (not
"phonetic intensives"), which occur in the lexicon in English and
other languages, but in Austroasiatic languages are grammaticalized,
and you can make the above statement??

> Here is an interesting snippet on this topic:

> From

> http://gsteinbe.intrasun.tcnj.edu/tcnj/linguistics/soundnsense.htm

> Phonetic Intensives
> There are certain sounds and sound combinations that seem to be
> associated with certain images or ideas in English.  These sounds and
> sound combinations are known as phonetic intensives.  Look at the list
> of words below, for example:

> flame, flare, flash, flicker
> glare, gleam, glint, glow, glisten
> slippery, slick, slide, slime, slop, slobber, slushy
> staunch, stalwart, stout, sturdy, stable, steady, stocky, stern,
> strong, stubborn, steel
> inch, imp, thin, slim, little, bit, chip, sliver, snip, wink, kid,
> glimmer, flicker, miniature
> moan, groan, woe, toll
> doom, gloom, moody
> flare, glare, stare, blare
> spatter, scatter, shatter, chatter, rattle, clatter, batter
> ripple, bubble, twinkle, sparkle, rumble, jingle
> What do the words in each group have in common in terms of sound?
> What do they have in common in terms of meaning?

> Mel Brooks, a famous comedian, once said that the k sound is the
> funniest sound in the English language.  Edgar Allan Poe chose
> "nevermore" as the word that his raven would say in "The Raven,"
> because he thought that the -ore sound was the most despairing in the
> English language (as in mourn, forlorn, tore, and deplore).

> Certain sounds are associated with certain images or ideas in English.

> end quote.

Note, BTW, the attribution of "funny k" to Mel Brooks.

 
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