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Ron Hardin

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Aug 20, 2004, 6:37:19 AM8/20/04
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Joel Mowbray essays

In a bid to dampen rising oil prices, the House of Saud last week
promised to pump an additional 1.3 million barrels per day,
indefinitely. The markets, though, didn’t buy what the Saudis were
selling -- prices didn’t drop -- and neither should anyone else.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/jm20040820.shtml

Grammatically it shouldn't matter, since the interpolation isn't
there, but the interpolation uses the same stack or something and
clears it before it can be used for the ellipsis at the end.

You have to replay the beginning to pick it up again.
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Ron Hardin
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On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Peter T. Daniels

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Aug 20, 2004, 8:09:11 AM8/20/04
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Ron Hardin wrote:
>
> Joel Mowbray essays
>
> In a bid to dampen rising oil prices, the House of Saud last week
> promised to pump an additional 1.3 million barrels per day,
> indefinitely. The markets, though, didn’t buy what the Saudis were
> selling -- prices didn’t drop -- and neither should anyone else.
>
> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/jm20040820.shtml
>
> Grammatically it shouldn't matter, since the interpolation isn't
> there, but the interpolation uses the same stack or something and
> clears it before it can be used for the ellipsis at the end.
>
> You have to replay the beginning to pick it up again.

> On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Jesus Aitch Fucking Christ, Harden.

It's a JOKE. A zeugma or syllepsis??

before the dash -- the markets didn't "buy" the Saudi promise.

after the dash -- consumers shouldn't buy Saudi oil.
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Peter T. Daniels gram...@att.net

Ron Hardin

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Aug 20, 2004, 8:56:08 AM8/20/04
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Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>
> Ron Hardin wrote:
> >
> > Joel Mowbray essays
> >
> > In a bid to dampen rising oil prices, the House of Saud last week
> > promised to pump an additional 1.3 million barrels per day,
> > indefinitely. The markets, though, didn’t buy what the Saudis were
> > selling -- prices didn’t drop -- and neither should anyone else.
> >
> > http://www.townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/jm20040820.shtml
> >
> > Grammatically it shouldn't matter, since the interpolation isn't
> > there, but the interpolation uses the same stack or something and
> > clears it before it can be used for the ellipsis at the end.
> >
> > You have to replay the beginning to pick it up again.
>
> Jesus Aitch Fucking Christ, Harden.
>
> It's a JOKE. A zeugma or syllepsis??
>
> before the dash -- the markets didn't "buy" the Saudi promise.
>
> after the dash -- consumers shouldn't buy Saudi oil.

Suppose the interpolation also had an ellipsis, what would happen?

I think the interpolation resets the stack, even if it doesn't use it, but
certainly if it does. Yet the interpolation is not there in the grammatical
structure of the host sentence.

There's a memory allocation problem in the nesting.
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Ron Hardin
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Paul

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Aug 22, 2004, 1:54:33 AM8/22/04
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In article <4125D4...@mindspring.com>, rhha...@mindspring.com
says...

> Joel Mowbray essays
>
> In a bid to dampen rising oil prices, the House of Saud last week
> promised to pump an additional 1.3 million barrels per day,
> indefinitely. The markets, though, didn?t buy what the Saudis were
> selling -- prices didn?t drop -- and neither should anyone else.

>
> http://www.townhall.com/columnists/joelmowbray/jm20040820.shtml
>
> Grammatically it shouldn't matter, since the interpolation isn't
> there, but the interpolation uses the same stack or something and
> clears it before it can be used for the ellipsis at the end.
>
> You have to replay the beginning to pick it up again.
>

This is an interesting ambiguity as to what the ellpsis refers to. It
could refer to "drop" as in, "neither should anyone else [drop]". It
could be "buy oil": "neither should anyone else [buy the oil the Saudi's
are selling]". And it could be something more abstract along the lines
of benevelont intentions: "neither should anyone else [buy the Saudi's
pumping more oil just to be nice and help folks out.]

Reading the whole article, one of the themes of it is that the Saudis
keep oil prices low to discourage the development of alternative sources
of power, and thereby keep the world addicted to oil for a longer period
of time. With this in mind, I think that the ellipsis refers to that
third, abstract notion.

- Paul
Schrum

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