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Yusuf B Gursey

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Oct 31, 2009, 11:32:41 PM10/31/09
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could someone please translate the following passage, and Cc:
y...@theworld.com . the arabic and persian portion should be left as is
(thank you in advance):

Der erste arabisch schreibende gelehrte, der diesen boden betrat, war
der
grammatiker Sibawayh (2./8.jh.): Kita:b, ed. Derenbourg, 2, 375-376,
ba:b ma:
u'riba min al-a'g^amiyya und ba:b ittira:d al-ibda:l fi 1-fa:risiyya.
Er erwa"hnt
das persische g, p und o:.
Systematischerw aren die mitteilungend es Hamza al-Isbahani( gest. vor
360/970): At-tanbih 'ala: hudu:th at-tas.h.i:f, Bagdad 1968, 82-84.
Schon Paul
Kraus hat sie in der Magallat at-taqafa al-misriyya 5, nr 223, april
1943, ans
licht gezogen. Hamza behauptet, das persische besitze 8 laute, die dem
arabischen fehlten und wofiir es daher in der arabischen schrift keine
zeichen
gebe, na"mlich:
1) das p wie in pa: ,,fuss", pani:r ,,ka"se"
2) das affrizierte b wie in lab ,,lippe", sab ,,nacht"
3) das c^ wie in c^ira:g ,,lampe", c^a:s^t ,,fru"hstu"ck"
4) das z^ wie in wa:z^a:r (= ba:za:r), ,markt",
Ho:zista:n, ,Xo:zista:n"
5) das g wie in ga:zur ,,wascher", gac^ ,,gips"
6) das xw wie in xwars^ed ,,sonne", xwarm ,,schlaf"
7) das o: wie in no: ,,neu", bo ,,geruch"
8) das e: wie in se:r ,,satt", s^e:r ,,lo"we".

Evertjan.

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Nov 1, 2009, 3:40:08 AM11/1/09
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Yusuf B Gursey wrote on 01 nov 2009 in sci.lang.translation:

> could someone please translate the following passage, and Cc:
> y...@theworld.com .

NG in, NG out.

This is not a helpdesk.


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Evertjan.
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Ekkehard Dengler

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Nov 1, 2009, 10:11:42 AM11/1/09
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Yusuf B Gursey wrote:
> could someone please translate the following passage, and Cc:
> y...@theworld.com . the arabic and persian portion should be left as is
> (thank you in advance):

Hi Yusuf,

please check your e-mail.

Regards,
Ekkehard


Yusuf B Gursey

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Nov 1, 2009, 3:15:51 PM11/1/09
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thank you.

Athel Cornish-Bowden

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Nov 2, 2009, 7:33:24 AM11/2/09
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On 2009-11-01 09:40:08 +0100, "Evertjan." <exjxw.ha...@interxnl.net> said:

> Yusuf B Gursey wrote on 01 nov 2009 in sci.lang.translation:
>
>> could someone please translate the following passage, and Cc:
>> y...@theworld.com .
>
> NG in, NG out.
>
> This is not a helpdesk.

Maybe not, but in the news groups that he frequents Yusuf is one of the
most helpful people around.

--
athel

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