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Zetor

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Jan 12, 2004, 12:50:17 PM1/12/04
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Hi,

I have just upgraded to Office 2003 and now cannot use my
Trados 5 Translator's Workbench, the error message
says 'Outdated Document Template (TW4Win2k.dot or
eariler).Please use current version TRADOS5.dot.' Is
there any way I can get TRADOS5 to work now I have
updated my Office?

Thanks,
Triin

Stéphane Siguier

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Jan 13, 2004, 2:56:24 AM1/13/04
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Hello,

I am afraid you will have to upgrade to Trados 6.5. The only workaround is
to keeping on working with the previous version of Office you have.

Stéphane

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RPletka

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Jan 15, 2004, 11:25:40 AM1/15/04
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The only good reason to upgrade is when your present software stops working or
there is a guy with a loaded shotgun pointing to your head.
Why did you upgrade?

Radovan Pletka
Czech and Slovak Services
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Publisher of the famous weekly job list for translators/interpreters
Feel free to request a sample (-: at
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Nils Mayflower

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Jan 18, 2004, 5:43:44 PM1/18/04
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Hmm, Rad, let's see...
I still work with Trados 3. I'd like to upgrade to version 6, not because
somebody's holding a gun to my head but because of improved functionality
and ergonomics.
.
Your logic implies that I should still work with my typewriter!
-Nils-

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Werner George Patels

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Jan 19, 2004, 8:31:32 PM1/19/04
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It's not a matter of facing down the barrel of a gun. Upgrading to the
new Office 2003 package is a sensible thing to do (given its improved
functionality).

The fact that Trados can no longer be used unless you upgrade to their
next product is a sad, yet common, occurrence with Trados, the number
one "scammer" of the CAT industry.

The problem is that Trados is linked with WORD, so any change in the
WORD software will, invariably, affect Trados. This is why I have
always given preference to CAT tools such as DéjàVu and SDLX that work
outside the WORD environment. This means that any upgrade to your WORD
software will have no effect on the functionality of your CAT tool.

I recently upgraded to Office 2003 as well, and my DéjàVu and SDLX
still work very well.

It should also be noted that DéjàVu does not expect you to pay for
every new version that comes out, whereas Trados regularly issues new
versions and patches that users have to pay for (regardless of the
fact that all those Trados patches and updates usually add little in
terms of value or improvement; on the contrary, they often cause even
more problems and glitches).

Having said all that, I must also point out that wordfast, which works
along the same lines as Trados (from within the WORD environment),
does not cause any problems for Word 2003 and that there is no need to
buy a new version of wordfast that would be compatible with 2003. So,
it appears that Trados must have been planning for this
incompatibility in order to "milk" its customers yet again ....

Werner George Patels
www.german-english.biz

RPletka

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Jan 22, 2004, 12:48:29 PM1/22/04
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In article <buf1rm$g8cmd$1...@ID-60093.news.uni-berlin.de>, "Nils Mayflower"
<n_may...@hotmail.com> writes:

>Your logic implies that I should still work with my typewriter!
>-Nils-

I warned you (-:

RPletka

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Jan 22, 2004, 12:48:28 PM1/22/04
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In article <2fe80ad3.04011...@posting.google.com>,

werner...@sympatico.ca (Werner George Patels) writes:

>It's not a matter of facing down the barrel of a gun. Upgrading to the
>new Office 2003 package is a sensible thing to do (given its improved
>functionality).

This is nonsence, there is nothing you need in comparison with Office 2000 or
even Office 97. You are just sending money to Bill (-:
Name me one thing which you can do in Office 2003 I can't do in Office 2000 and
which your paying customer requsted from you.
Was it worth at least $3,000 you lost in cost of software, update time and lost
productivity due to upgrade? For some people the upgrade cost can be up to
$10,000. How much more money you earned due to improved functionality. If you
compute it as ROI, you will find out you are LOSING MONEY with every upgrade.
That was my point, which got lost in your upgrade rush.

If you get the file you can't open, there are free conventers.

Werner George Patels

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Jan 22, 2004, 11:05:53 PM1/22/04
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Radovan,

I don't know which planet you live on, but Office 2003 offers a lot of
advantages over previous versions (e.g., Outlook 2003 that fully
deletes unwanted mails - you never even get a glimpse of them, they
are just vaporized).

Where does the amount $3,000 come from?
1. I only spent a very small amount of money on the upgrade.

2. The upgrade took me no more than 5 minutes and went off without a
hitch.

So, either I am a much better shopper and much more intelligent
installer of new software than you are, or you got things seriously
wrong. Enlighten yourself and then report back to this list.

Werner George Patels
www.german-english.biz

Werner George Patels

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Jan 22, 2004, 11:13:44 PM1/22/04
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I should also mention that Outlook 2003 has saved me a considerable
amount of time (and headache), because of its anti-spam filter and
filter for unwanted messages that are simply deleted (they don't even
show up in the delete folder). So, yes, it's been a very good
investment.

Personally, I find this "witch-hunt" for Bill Gates and MS disgusting.
I'll buy any software (regardless of its creator) as long as it serves
me well. Trados, however, does not serve me well, never has and never
will. In addition, Trados philosophy is designed to ruin professional
standards (e.g., through its claim that Trados can "make you a better
translator". If they had said "more efficient translator", OK, but a
better translator? Never. If you suck as a translator, Trados or any
other program out there can't save your hide - so, that was an
outright lie and false advertising - so much for Mike Kidd's business
ethics!).

Werner George Patels
www.german-english.biz

Victor Casaña-Giner

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Jan 24, 2004, 4:07:14 AM1/24/04
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To anybody that wants to sell its original licensed copy of trados>
I would like to buy TRADOS version 5 or 6! Please answer to this
message.
Thanks

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Dieter Hirschmann

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Feb 25, 2004, 2:11:00 PM2/25/04
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Werner George Patels wrote:
> I should also mention that Outlook 2003 has saved me a considerable
> amount of time (and headache), because of its anti-spam filter and
> filter for unwanted messages that are simply deleted (they don't even
> show up in the delete folder). So, yes, it's been a very good
> investment.

Great that they don't even show up in a folder! This way, you will be
absolutely sure you didn't miss even the most important messages.

> Personally, I find this "witch-hunt" for Bill Gates and MS disgusting.

Give me a break! Bill Gates was a lousy programmer and just Paul Allen's
footboy, and since 1980 or 1981 he's a figurehead on IBM's payroll
faking to be the world's richest man.

Microsoft has purchased all software they're boasting to have developed,
including MS-DOS, Windows, Windows/NT, Word, and Excel. I use MS crap,
too, namely Word, but just because I need it for Trados. I must admit,
however, that there is no better word-processing software on the market.
But Windows 96, ME, 2000 and XP are terrible garbage.

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