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KATTE vs. WAGAMAMA
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aesthete8
Jan 4, 2012, 11:50:46 PM1/4/12
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Concerning Japanese tv programs that are subtitled, I have noticed
that when a person/character says KATTE, the subtitle usually says
SELFISH.
But isn't KATTE closer to WILLFUL?
And isn't SELFISH closer to WAGAMAMA?
that when a person/character says KATTE, the subtitle usually says
SELFISH.
But isn't KATTE closer to WILLFUL?
And isn't SELFISH closer to WAGAMAMA?
Tad Perry
Jan 5, 2012, 1:58:08 AM1/5/12
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"aesthete8" <art...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yes and yes, but...
Consider that wagamama is a person with a selfish character--the way the
person is.
"Katte" is more like selfishness itself. (Boku no katte desu... It's my
selfish way of doing things.)
"Katte ni" is used when a person does something selfishly or without
consideration for others. (Katte ni shite - Have it your way. Do as you
like.")
"Wagamama" describes a person who is selfish. (Wagamama da na, koitsu! -
Boy, you're selfish!)
tvp
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Consider that wagamama is a person with a selfish character--the way the
person is.
"Katte" is more like selfishness itself. (Boku no katte desu... It's my
selfish way of doing things.)
"Katte ni" is used when a person does something selfishly or without
consideration for others. (Katte ni shite - Have it your way. Do as you
like.")
"Wagamama" describes a person who is selfish. (Wagamama da na, koitsu! -
Boy, you're selfish!)
tvp
aesthete8
Jan 6, 2012, 2:56:29 AM1/6/12
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If a group decides to go one way, but an individual decides to go
another way and then goes his own way, isn't that closer to KATTE than
to WAGAMAMA?
Tad Perry
Jan 6, 2012, 6:08:31 PM1/6/12
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"aesthete8" <art...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's one of those cases where it depends on the angle you describe it from.
The WAGAMAMA person is engaging in KATTE NA behavior.
In English both get replaced by the word SELFISH, but which is used in
Japanese depends on whether it's the behavior or the person being described.
(Note that WAGAMAMA essentially breaks down to mean "my way.")
tvp
Ben Bullock
Jan 13, 2012, 1:09:14 AM1/13/12
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:50:46 -0800, aesthete8 wrote:
> Concerning Japanese tv programs that are subtitled, I have noticed that
> when a person/character says KATTE, the subtitle usually says SELFISH.
>
> But isn't KATTE closer to WILLFUL?
I don't notice many people using the word "wilful" in English these days.
> Concerning Japanese tv programs that are subtitled, I have noticed that
> when a person/character says KATTE, the subtitle usually says SELFISH.
>
> But isn't KATTE closer to WILLFUL?
"makoto ni katte nagara" seems to mean "we apologize for the
inconvenience".
> And isn't SELFISH closer to WAGAMAMA?
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