Re: iPod dictionary
Scott Reynolds
> Hi,
> being able to ditch the dedicated denshi jishou would be a great excuse
> to buy an iPod touch (iPhone) full of games. What software is there?
Well, there's a port of Edict called iDictionary and there are several
dictionaries from Japanese publishers (some of which are rather
expensive). If you have iTunes installed (something you will have to do
eventually in any case if you do buy an iPod touch or iPhone) you can
browse around in the app store and see what's there.
> I found English-Japanese from Wisdom and LogoVista, but didn't look into
> them yet. I'm also fluent in German.
There are quite a few to choose from, both for E-J and for German. A
search in the (Japanese) app store on iTunes for "Duden" turns up eight
hits, for example.
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Bart Mathias
> Tobias Weber wrote:
>> Hi,
>> being able to ditch the dedicated denshi jishou would be a great excuse
>> to buy an iPod touch (iPhone) full of games. What software is there?
>
> Well, there's a port of Edict called iDictionary and there are several
> dictionaries from Japanese publishers (some of which are rather
You must be a lot nicer than I, Scott. I would have nit-picked.
Bart
Bruce
You got to show me how you would nit-pick, please.
Jim Breen
G'day Scott.
> Tobias Weber wrote:
>> being able to ditch the dedicated denshi jishou would be a great excuse
>> to buy an iPod touch (iPhone) full of games. What software is there?
>
> Well, there's a port of Edict called iDictionary and there are several
> dictionaries from Japanese publishers (some of which are rather
> expensive). If you have iTunes installed (something you will have to do
> eventually in any case if you do buy an iPod touch or iPhone) you can
> browse around in the app store and see what's there.
An EJ one (using JMdict/EDICT) is
http://sazanamisoftware.com/wishotouch/ (and they donated
to the project, which is nice...)
Jacek Rutkowski, who provides the WWWJDIC mirror in Germany,
is releasing another in a week or two.
--
Jim Breen http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/
Clayton School of Information Technology,
Monash University, VIC 3800, Australia
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Jim Breen
時鐘? 次将? 事象? ....
Maybe even 耳茸.
Shimpei Yamashita
> In article <tvCdndlZaJgRqG_X...@giganews.com>,
> Scott Reynolds <scot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> How is the input method built into the OS?
You use the touch keyboard, in QWERTY or mobile phone-like layout.
The latter has a little learning curve, but you can type much more
quickly once you get used to it. Like most mobile phones, the iPhone's
input system is predictive, allowing you to save keystrokes for
commonly used words.
>> There are quite a few to choose from, both for E-J and for German. A
>> search in the (Japanese) app store on iTunes for "Duden" turns up eight
>
> (but none of those eight have to do with Japanese ;)
For what it's worth, the top selling E-J/J-E dictionary in the Japan
store is ウィズダム英和・和英辞典. There are also aptly named
"English-Japanese Dictionary" and "Japanese-English Dictionary" in the
rankings. Since I don't have access to the German store, I don't know
if you can download these.
If you ever feel like gravitating to J-J dictionaries, 大辞林 is
nice. I haven't done any comparison testing, but it is one of the
major dictionary brands in Japan, and the user interface is quite cute:
it actively encourages you to browse around reading random entries,
just like you might with a paper edition.
> The Store is horrible. Without asking I'd have to spend days looking.
Just like Usenet before search engines!
Shimpei.
Bruce
> Bart Mathias wrote:
> > Scott Reynolds wrote:
> >> Tobias Weber wrote:
> >>> being able to ditch the dedicated denshi jishou would be a great excuse
> >>> to buy an iPod touch (iPhone) full of games. What software is there?
>
> >> Well, there's a port of Edict called iDictionary and there are several
> >> dictionaries from Japanese publishers (some of which are rather
> >> expensive). [...]
>
> > You must be a lot nicer than I, Scott. I would have nit-picked.
>
> 時鐘? 次将? 事象? ....
>
> Maybe even 耳茸.
Ah, that's how you do it? That's pretty iyamittarashii.
Bart Mathias
Actually, I was sort of doing it my way when I posted that. Jim's way is
perhaps more direct.
Bart
Scott Reynolds
I guess I'm not sufficiently familiar with the culture of this group. ;)
Scott Reynolds
> In article<TssIm.52257$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
> Jim Breen<jimb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 時鐘? 次将? 事象? ....
>
> A monolingual one would obviously be a bit much for me, and I need lots
> of examples. So I'd tend towards the Japanese publishers. Looking
> through the store I only found the two I mentioned. Any experience?
There were a lot more than two the last time I looked (which was a long
time ago, because I really only use a dictionary when I'm sitting at my
PC rather than when I'm out and about). It is possible that some of them
are only available in the Japanese store. Some apps are not available in
certain countries, unfortunately.
Scott Reynolds
> Scott Reynolds wrote:
>
> G'day Scott.
>
>> Tobias Weber wrote:
>>> being able to ditch the dedicated denshi jishou would be a great excuse
>>> to buy an iPod touch (iPhone) full of games. What software is there?
>>
>> Well, there's a port of Edict called iDictionary and there are several
>> dictionaries from Japanese publishers (some of which are rather
>> expensive). If you have iTunes installed (something you will have to do
>> eventually in any case if you do buy an iPod touch or iPhone) you can
>> browse around in the app store and see what's there.
>
> An EJ one (using JMdict/EDICT) is
> http://sazanamisoftware.com/wishotouch/ (and they donated
> to the project, which is nice...)
Wow! That's a really nice interface. Pity the price is so high (for an
iPhone app, that is).
> Jacek Rutkowski, who provides the WWWJDIC mirror in Germany,
> is releasing another in a week or two.
Sounds good. I'll be keeping an eye out.
Scott Reynolds
> The Store is horrible. Without asking I'd have to spend days looking.
> My credit card also restricts me to the German store, where not
> everything is available.
This is one of the most annoying aspects of the app store. You can get
around it if you are only going to download free apps or if you have a
credit card associated from an issuer in the country of the version of
the app store you want to buy from by setting up multiple accounts. Both
iTunes and the iPhone itself let you switch among your accounts. The
difficult part is getting a credit card associated with a country you
don't reside in.
Bruce
So, which is better, your way or Jim's way?
Dan Rempel
> Scott Reynolds wrote:
>
> G'day Scott.
>
>> Tobias Weber wrote:
>>> being able to ditch the dedicated denshi jishou would be a great excuse
>>> to buy an iPod touch (iPhone) full of games. What software is there?
>> Well, there's a port of Edict called iDictionary and there are several
>> dictionaries from Japanese publishers (some of which are rather
>> expensive). If you have iTunes installed (something you will have to do
>> eventually in any case if you do buy an iPod touch or iPhone) you can
>> browse around in the app store and see what's there.
>
> An EJ one (using JMdict/EDICT) is
> http://sazanamisoftware.com/wishotouch/ (and they donated
> to the project, which is nice...)
>
> Jacek Rutkowski, who provides the WWWJDIC mirror in Germany,
> is releasing another in a week or two.
Not available in Canada; who comes up with these rules?
Anyway, I've got a few: Japanese by codefromtokyo (must have got it at a
special price; it's $20 now, and I'm too cheap to pay that much);
Shinkanji, a decent kanji lookup app; and Kotoba, irritating but free.
As far as I know they all use edict in some form or other, hopefully
with permission.
Dan
Drakenberg's Discovery:
If you can't seem to find your glasses,
it's probably because you don't have them on.
Bart Mathias
I assume you're kidding. Naturally I always do things the best way.
Jim Breen
> Jim Breen wrote:
>>An EJ one (using JMdict/EDICT) is
>>http://sazanamisoftware.com/wishotouch/ (and they donated
>>to the project, which is nice...)
>>
>>Jacek Rutkowski, who provides the WWWJDIC mirror in Germany,
>>is releasing another in a week or two.
>
> Not available in Canada; who comes up with these rules?
Apple presumably. Complain to them. Loudly. It's idiotic
to be locking up software according to language. Why do
you need a Japanese-issued credit card to buy a Japanese
dictionary?
> Anyway, I've got a few: Japanese by codefromtokyo (must have got it at a
> special price; it's $20 now, and I'm too cheap to pay that much);
> Shinkanji, a decent kanji lookup app; and Kotoba, irritating but free.
> As far as I know they all use edict in some form or other, hopefully
> with permission.
No-one needs permission to use EDICT. They just need to
acknowledge that they are using it.
Jim Breen
> Bruce wrote:
>> So, which is better, your way or Jim's way?
>
> I assume you're kidding. Naturally I always do things the best way.
春喉.
Ben Finney
> Dan Rempel wrote:
> > As far as I know they all use edict in some form or other, hopefully
> > with permission.
>
> No-one needs permission to use EDICT. They just need to acknowledge
> that they are using it.
More precisely: anyone who wants to do something with EDICT that's
otherwise reserved by copyright needs permission to do that.
The copyright holder (EDRDG <URL:http://www.edrdg.org/>) has granted
that permission explicitly to all recipients, subject to the license
terms (CC-BY-SA-3.0 <URL:http://www.edrdg.org/edrdg/licence.html>).
So: yes, they need permission; and yes, they have it.
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Dan Rempel
> Dan Rempel wrote:
>> Jim Breen wrote:
>>> An EJ one (using JMdict/EDICT) is
>>> http://sazanamisoftware.com/wishotouch/ (and they donated
>>> to the project, which is nice...)
>>>
>>> Jacek Rutkowski, who provides the WWWJDIC mirror in Germany,
>>> is releasing another in a week or two.
>> Not available in Canada; who comes up with these rules?
>
> Apple presumably. Complain to them. Loudly. It's idiotic
> to be locking up software according to language. Why do
> you need a Japanese-issued credit card to buy a Japanese
> dictionary?
Apparently only Steve Jobs knows.
>> Anyway, I've got a few: Japanese by codefromtokyo (must have got it at a
>> special price; it's $20 now, and I'm too cheap to pay that much);
>> Shinkanji, a decent kanji lookup app; and Kotoba, irritating but free.
>> As far as I know they all use edict in some form or other, hopefully
>> with permission.
>
> No-one needs permission to use EDICT. They just need to
> acknowledge that they are using it.
Thanks for the correction. I just checked, and all three do indeed make
the acknowlegement.
Dan
Michael Gardner
> In article <tvCdndlZaJgRqG_X...@giganews.com>,
> Scott Reynolds <scot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> drawing on the screen.
>
> How is the input method built into the OS?
>
Besides the kana input method for Japanese, there's also handwriting
recognition for Chinese. So far I've had some limited success in using
it to enter kanji.
-Michael