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Wakarinikui vs. Wakarikaneru
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aesthete8
Jul 16, 2012, 5:10:34 AM7/16/12
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Difficult to understand VS. Difficult for me to understand?
Ben Finney
Jul 16, 2012, 7:26:08 AM7/16/12
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「分かりにくい」 is adjectival, describing the thing as difficult to
understand. This derives from the meaning of 「憎い」 as “hateful (to),
hostile (to)”; hence “(the thing is) hostile to understanding”.
「分かり兼ねる」 is a verb, describing the inability of a person to
understand. This derives from the meaning of 「兼ねる」 as “to be unable
to (X), to find (X) difficult or awkward”; hence “(person) has
difficulty to understand (thing)”.
But you could have looked those up in a dictionary, as I just did. Was
there something more than dictionary definitions you want to say?
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Ben Finney
subject field, so we can quote what you're referring to properly.)
「分かりにくい」 is adjectival, describing the thing as difficult to
understand. This derives from the meaning of 「憎い」 as “hateful (to),
hostile (to)”; hence “(the thing is) hostile to understanding”.
「分かり兼ねる」 is a verb, describing the inability of a person to
understand. This derives from the meaning of 「兼ねる」 as “to be unable
to (X), to find (X) difficult or awkward”; hence “(person) has
difficulty to understand (thing)”.
But you could have looked those up in a dictionary, as I just did. Was
there something more than dictionary definitions you want to say?
--
\ Rommel: “Don't move, or I'll turn the key on this can of Spam!” |
`\ —The Goon Show, _Rommel's Treasure_ |
_o__) |
Ben Finney
Bart Mathias
Jul 16, 2012, 9:47:41 PM7/16/12
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On Mon, 16 Jul 2012 02:10:34 -0700 (PDT)
aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Difficult to understand VS. Difficult for me to understand?
Where did you encounter "wakarikaneru"? It sounds to me sort of like
aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Difficult to understand VS. Difficult for me to understand?
"I can't bring myself to understand" or "I hestitate to catch on."
Something requiring a sort of special context.
In my short life, I think I've run into "(shi-)kanenai" a lot more than
"(shi-)kaneru." But "wakarikanenai" probably would require a special
context as well. "I can't help but understand"?
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Bart Mathias <mat...@hawaii.edu>
aesthete8
Jul 17, 2012, 3:29:28 AM7/17/12
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On Jul 15, 11:10 pm, aesthete8 <art...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Difficult to understand VS. Difficult for me to understand?
The following may be of interest:
> Difficult to understand VS. Difficult for me to understand?
http://books.google.com/books?id=oyoYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA166&lpg=PA166&dq=wakarikaneru&source=bl&ots=cayDo1-9aU&sig=HcEqb4qvCrEjNHVm-SdtkDpbfaI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8BMFUKPFM8fi2gXYpvmqBQ&ved=0CGMQ6AEwCDgU#v=onepage&q=wakarikaneru&f=false
Jean-Marc Desperrier
Jul 20, 2012, 9:59:54 AM7/20/12
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aesthete8 a �crit :
I think the publication date gives an hint that nobody uses that
expression anymore.
expression anymore.
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