Yoisho pronunciation.

[mirror]

Hello,

Yoisho refers to a dedicated effort.

I have three questions: First, is it pronounced YOI-SHO or
yo-I-sho; second, can it be shorthened to YOSH; and third is there
a Nelson, Halpern, or H&S kanji number for this term?

Thank you!


Paul

[muchan]

> Yoisho refers to a dedicated effort.
>

??? Who says that???

> I have three questions: First, is it pronounced YOI-SHO or
> yo-I-sho; second, can it be shorthened to YOSH; and third is there
> a Nelson, Halpern, or H&S kanji number for this term?
>

1. I don't know how you pronounce YOI-SHO and yo-I-sho.
I would pronounce both as /yoisho/, so "or" does not work here...
2. No, as for Japaense language. (for your language, I don't know.)
3. No, since Yoisho is not writen in kanji.

yoisho in normal usage:
http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/jn2/226055/m0u/

yoisho as slang:
http://zokugo-dict.com/38yo/yoisyo.htm

muchan

[mirror]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:09:53 +0100, muchan <much...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> Yoisho refers to a dedicated effort.
>??? Who says that???

Jim Breen?

> I don't know how you pronounce YOI-SHO and yo-I-sho.

Try to rhyme it with SOY-FOE, or go-I-shyo. Rhyme it. It's easy.

>muchan

U usd 2 be a grate source. Now u r useful for no information.



Paul

[rbb...@gmail.com]

On Friday, March 29, 2013 6:37:32 PM UTC-4, mirror wrote:

>
> >> Yoisho refers to a dedicated effort.

It's not like 努力. It's just a sound one makes when lifting something heavy, etc., like "heave-ho!".

> > I don't know how you pronounce YOI-SHO and yo-I-sho.

> Try to rhyme it with SOY-FOE, or go-I-shyo. Rhyme it. It's easy.

Clear as mud. Are you asking about the accent pattern? It rhymes with "boy show".

>
> U usd 2 be a grate source. Now u r useful for no information.
>

He gave you links to the ordinary meaning and to the newer, extended meaning involving sycophancy. What more could you desire?

[mirror]

On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 17:51:42 -0700 (PDT), rbb...@gmail.com wrote:
>Clear as mud. Are you asking about the accent pattern? It rhymes with "boy show".

Thank you. When I was a kid I remember my uncle slurring it into
yosh (rhymes somewhat with ocean without the "an") when we
practiced swinging bokken into thick rubber straps wrapped around a
tree in his yard.

Given what I know now about biology, I am sure that tree was not
happy.

[muchan]

Could be "yoshi" (good), "yassha", "yoshaa" (colloquial deriverativ of
"yoshi")

"yoisho" is not usually said as "yosh". Some variations would be
"yoisho, korasho", "yoi-kora-sho", "yokkoisho", "yokkarasa", etc.
Possible that your uncle said "yoisho" and you heard it "yosh".

muchan

[rbb...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 4:37:28 AM UTC-4, muchan wrote:


> Could be "yoshi" (good),

I think muchan hit the nail on the head here. "yoisho" doesn't sound to me like something one would say before practicing hitting a tree with a stick. "yoshi" (often pronounced with devoiced "shi", as muchan notes), sounds much more likely. It gives a sense of determination, deciding on a course of action, etc., kind of like "OK, let's do this thing!" in US English.

[Jim Breen]

My dictionary doesn't say 'dedicated effort'.
Muchan is quite correct, as usual. No need to be rude.

Jim

[mirror]

My reply was unacceptable and, inddeed, rude. Muchan has always
been helpful to me. I apologize to Muchan and the group.

[Arekusu]

I was surprised to hear people climbing a mountain saying "Oh hisse et
ho!" just like me.

In French the original meaning is also the "heave ho", to hoist the
sails, like this image:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/images/4494077135/ref=dp_image_0/376-8768333-5680154?ie=UTF8&n=465392&s=books

The newer meaning is noted Showa jidai.

Arekusu