Drill-drones: America only has 2% of the world's liquid crude oil
Enough Already
(one of many sources for this data)
America has only 2% of the world's liquid crude oil reserves.
This figure INCLUDES Alaska and coastal regions. They are not some new
thing that Rush Limbaugh sleuthed out. Our "huge" shale-oil reserves
may not even break even energy-wise, and will seriously trash the
landscape and deplete local water supplies. They are touted as the
"next Saudi Arabia" by fools who don't understand energy inputs vs.
outputs. If you have a trillion potential barrels and it requires 999
billion barrels of fuel to extract them, you're only left with 1
billion barrels of net usable energy. Got it?
What part of that don't you "drill here, drill now" drones understand?
Why have so many failed to grasp the numbers of this situation? It's
exactly why America hit the wall of "peak oil" back in the early 70s.
The cheapest stuff was gone decades ago. We went overseas for good
reason and we've also been depleting domestic oil all that time.
Abiotic oil (the self-replenishing kind) has never been proved but it
lurks under the surface of cornucopian drilling propaganda.
There is a disturbing cadre of people who are clueless about American
oil consumption vs. domestic reserves. "Got a hemi in that? Heeyuk,
heeyuk! Wait, shut up - Rush is on. Turn it up! He's gonna talk about
oil. He's a real x-purt!"
Of equal importance, the U.S. consumes 21 million barrels of oil per
day, which is a billion barrels in 47 days and 7.6 billion barrels
each year. Consumption rates will likely rise due to mindless
population growth, even with fleets of hybrids. Optimistic estimates
of offshore drilling combined with ANWR yield less than 25 billion
barrels, which wouldn't even last 3.5 years if consumed alone.
Again, how can we "drill our way out of this" with such small liquid
crude reserves? Are people star-struck when they see "billions!" in
reserve figures, and don't bother to do simple math? Production is
meaningless outside the context of consumption. Never forget that and
don't let Limbaugh tell you otherwise.
E.A.
http://enough_already.tripod.com/
Resources are only finite in someone else's lifetime.
Tiger Luck
Enough with your "facts", already.
--
Einstein forgot to carry the two
Max Rosan
You Go EA! Yes, the proposed Pacific Coast Off-Shore rigs -- the ones
that can produce 80 billion barrels of oil in their life cycle -- oh,
but those billion barrels do dazzle! You are wise to recommend doing the
math. First of all subtract 80% of whatever a U.S. oil well is expected
to produce: oil is a globally traded commodity, and the U.S. consumes
roughly 20% of this commodity. All oil is sold as a commodity to the
highest global bidder, including our own domestic oil. Which means that
we bid for our own oil just as other countries bid for their own, and
our oil. Therefore, roughly 80% of our domestically-produced oil is sold
to overseas corporations. So, multiply whatever is the latest "proven
U.S. reserve" by 0.2 to come up with what we can hold onto. Then divide
that result by 18 to 20 million (bbls per day domestic consumption) to
come up with the number of days' worth of proven reserve. I think you'll
find that figure a bit smaller and somewhat depressing to think about.
All told, all of the Pacific off-shore rigs pumping until the last
proven drop of oil can be produced would yield around 4 years' worth of
100% dedicated to the U.S. barrels of oil @ 18-20 million bbls/day.
Something else to think about: drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Preserve
would yield significantly less oil than the above example. As EA points
out, we currently have too many people clamoring for shrinking energy
resources, and we have now arrived at a demand equals production climax
as far as oil-based energy is concerned. There are some obvious answers,
but no easy implementations of those answers.
</rant>
leona...@primus.ca
On 9/4/08 12:22 AM, in article
946a2730-4200-4e65...@a3g2000prm.googlegroups.com, "Enough
Already" <enough_...@lycos.com> wrote:
> http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/facts/2006_fcvt_fotw432.html
> (one of many sources for this data)
>
> America has only 2% of the world's liquid crude oil reserves.
>
> This figure INCLUDES Alaska and coastal regions. They are not some new
> thing that Rush Limbaugh sleuthed out. Our "huge" shale-oil reserves
> may not even break even energy-wise, and will seriously trash the
> landscape and deplete local water supplies. They are touted as the
> "next Saudi Arabia" by fools who don't understand energy inputs vs.
> outputs.
** Indeed all of the envirofascists ignore or
refuse to ignore the input/output equation
> If you have a trillion potential barrels and it requires 999
> billion barrels of fuel to extract them, you're only left with 1
> billion barrels of net usable energy. Got it?
** While I might dispute your numbers, you are
on target in principle. The envirofascists
choose to ignore that principle when they push
ethanol which takes more energy to produce
than it provides and is still 85% gasoline
>
> What part of that don't you "drill here, drill now" drones understand?
> Why have so many failed to grasp the numbers of this situation? It's
> exactly why America hit the wall of "peak oil" back in the early 70s.
> The cheapest stuff was gone decades ago. We went overseas for good
> reason and we've also been depleting domestic oil all that time.
> Abiotic oil (the self-replenishing kind) has never been proved but it
> lurks under the surface of cornucopian drilling propaganda.
** Now you have strayed away off base and are
showing that you got lost a few decades back.
By 1980 the Sa'udis and the Russians were
running dry. Both were using water extraction
in too many wells. Putin was buying cheap oil
from Saddam to meet his deliveries.
** About the same time, a Jew who was probably
the pre-eminent geophysicist/astrophysicist of
the 20th century took a drilling crew to Finland
and proved his thesis that petroleum has nothing
to do with fossils and is an inorganic substance
created in the deep hot core that is the center of
the globe and is an unlimited resource- you just
have to drill 5 to 20 miles thought the crust. You
could get lucky and hit a seam.
** Another geologist went to great lengths to block
Thomas Gold's research and later to discredit it.
API scheduled a seminar to discuss the paper he
presented to the American Academy of Science,
but cancelled it at the last minute.
** The Sa'uds and the Russians were not asleep. They
put a new drill into every failed and failing hole
and went deep. Now neither will admit to the total
of their proved reserves.
> Of equal importance, the U.S. consumes 21 million barrels of oil per
> day, which is a billion barrels in 47 days and 7.6 billion barrels
> each year. Consumption rates will likely rise due to mindless
> population growth, even with fleets of hybrids. Optimistic estimates
> of offshore drilling combined with ANWR yield less than 25 billion
> barrels, which wouldn't even last 3.5 years if consumed alone.
** You are off the wall stupid in your arrogance.
Those numbers are meaningless, particularly
regarding " Optimistic estimates of offshore
drilling combined with ANWR". The turkeys
who posted those "guestimates" have no clue.
> Again, how can we "drill our way out of this" with such small liquid
> crude reserves?
** You really are clueless and perhaps hopeless.
I would venture to say that if we shoved a spud
into every failed or failing hole in Oklahoma
and Texas and drilled 5 miles further 3 out of 5
would produce double what the 5 did originally.
** Meanwhile, you don't see it in the MSM but the
Brazilian oil company picked up on Dr Gold's
thesis and drilled in 2 locations 50ą miles from
Bahia in the South Atlantic. One should be in
production in a few months; the other another
year or so. The two are capable of supplying all
the USA needs perhaps for ever.
** Others drilling in the area Exxon, BP, Saudi
Petroleum, China, and more
> Production is
> meaningless outside the context of consumption.
You apparently have no grasp of either
The theory is simple: Crude oil forms as a natural
inorganic process which occurs between the mantle
and the crust, somewhere between 5 and 20 miles
deep. The proposed mechanism is as follows:
* Methane (CH4) is a common molecule found
in quantity throughout our solar system - huge
concentrations exist at great depth in the Earth.
* At the mantle-crust interface, roughly 20,000
feet beneath the surface, rapidly rising
streams of compressed methane-based gasses
hit pockets of high temperature causing the
condensation of heavier hydrocarbons. The
product of this condensation is commonly
known as crude oil.
* Some compressed methane-based gasses
migrate into pockets and reservoirs we
extract as "natural gas."
* In the geologically "cooler," more
tectonically stable regions around the globe,
the crude oil pools into reservoirs.
* In the "hotter," more volcanic and tectonically
active areas, the oil and natural gas continue
to condense and eventually to oxidize,
producing carbon dioxide and steam, which
exits from active volcanoes.
* Periodically, depending on variations of
geology and Earth movement, oil seeps to the
surface in quantity, creating the vast oil-sand
deposits of Canada and Venezuela, or the
continual seeps found beneath the Gulf of
Mexico and Uzbekistan. [That is how oil was
found in Pennsylvania and Ontario. BTW the
first working well is still pumping at Petrolia
Ontario- 30 miles East of Port Huron Mich ]
* Periodically, depending on variations of
geology, the vast, deep pools of oil break free
and replenish existing known reserves of oil.
There are a number of observations across the oil
producing regions of the globe that support this
theory, and the list of proponents begins with
Mendelev (who created the periodic table of
elements) and includes Dr. Thomas Gold
(founding director of Cornell University
Center for Radiophysics and Space Research)
and Dr. J.F. Kenney of Gas Resources
Corporations, Houston, Texas.
In his 1999 book, "The Deep Hot Biosphere," Dr.
Gold presents compelling evidence for inorganic
oil formation. He notes that geologic structures
where oil is found all correspond to "deep earth"
formations, not the haphazard depositions we find
with sedimentary rock, associated fossils or even
current surface life.
He also notes that oil extracted from varying
depths from the same oilfield have the same
chemistry - oil chemistry does not vary as fossils
vary with increasing depth. Also interesting is the
fact that oil is found in huge quantities among
geographic formations where assays of
prehistoric life are not sufficient to produce the
existing reservoirs of oil. From where then did it
come?
Another interesting fact is that every oil field
throughout the world has out gassing helium.
Helium is so often present in oil fields that helium
detectors are used as oil-prospecting tools. Helium
is an inert gas known to be a fundamental product
of the radiological decay of uranium and thorium,
identified in quantity at great depths below the
surface of the earth, 200 and more miles below. It
is not found in meaningful quantities in areas that
are not producing methane, oil or natural gas. It is
not a member of the dozen or so common elements
associated with life. It is found throughout the solar
system as a thoroughly inorganic product.
Even more intriguing is evidence that several oil
reservoirs around the globe are refilling
themselves, such as the Eugene Island reservoir -
not from the sides, as would be expected from
cocurrent organic reservoirs, but from the bottom up.
Dr. Gold strongly believe[d] that oil is a "renewable,
primordial soup continually manufactured by the
Earth under ultrahot conditions and tremendous
pressures. As this substance migrates toward the
surface, it is attached by bacteria, making it appear
to have an organic origin dating back to the
dinosaurs."
Ouroboros_Rex
k00k-a-d00dle-d000!!
leona...@primus.ca
> "competent physicists, chemists, chemical
> engineers and men knowledgeable of
> thermodynamics have known that natural
> petroleum does not evolve from biological
> materials since the last quarter of the 19th
> century."
>
>
> 袍he end of the world as we know it" scenario
> simply won't happen. Think about it ... deep Earth
> reserves of inorganic crude oil and commercially
> feasible extraction would provide the world with
> centuries of low-cost fuel.
>
> Sustainable oil? Forever!!!
>
> By Chris Bennett | May 25, 2004
>
> About 80 miles off of the coast of Louisiana lies
> a mostly submerged mountain, the top of which
> is known as Eugene Island. The portion
> underwater is an eerie-looking, sloping tower
> jutting up from the depths of the Gulf of Mexico,
> with deep fissures and perpendicular faults which
> spontaneously spew natural gas. A significant
> reservoir of crude oil was discovered nearby in
> the late '60s, and by 1970, a platform named
> Eugene 330 was busily producing about 15,000
> barrels a day of high-quality crude oil.
>
> By the late '80s, the platform's production had
> slipped to less than 4,000 barrels per day, and
> was considered pumped out. Done. Suddenly,
> in 1990, production soared back to 15,000 barrels
> a day, and the reserves which had been estimated
> at 60 million barrels in the '70s, were recalculated
> at 400 million barrels. Interestingly, the measured
> geological age of the new oil was quantifiably
> different than the oil pumped in the '70s.
>
> Analysis of seismic recordings revealed the
> presence of a "deep fault" at the base of the
> Eugene Island reservoir which was gushing up a
> river of oil from some deeper and previously
> unknown source.
>
> Similar results were seen at other Gulf of Mexico
> oil wells. Similar results were found in the Cook
> Inlet oil fields in Alaska. Similar results were
> found in oil fields in Uzbekistan. Similarly in the
> Middle East, where oil exploration and extraction
> have been underway for at least the last 20 years,
> known reserves have doubled. Currently
> there are somewhere in the neighbourhood of 680
> billion barrels of Middle East reserve oil.
>
> Creating that much oil would take a big pile of
> dead dinosaurs and fermenting prehistoric plants.
> Could there be another source for crude oil?
>
> An intriguing theory now permeating oil company
> research staffs suggests that crude oil may actually
> be a natural inorganic product, not a stepchild of
> unfathomable time and organic degradation. The
> theory suggests there may be huge,
> yet-to-be-discovered reserves of oil at depths that
> dwarf current world estimates.
> identified in quantity at great depths below the
> surface of the earth, 200 and more miles below. It
> is not found in meaningful quantities in areas that
> are not producing methane, oil or natural gas. It is
> not a member of the dozen or so common elements
> associated with life. It is found throughout the solar
> system as a thoroughly inorganic product.
>
> Even more intriguing is evidence that several oil
> reservoirs around the globe are refilling
> themselves, such as the Eugene Island reservoir -
> not from the sides, as would be expected from
> cocurrent organic reservoirs, but from the bottom up.
>
> primordial soup continually manufactured by the
> Earth under ultrahot conditions and tremendous
> pressures. As this substance migrates toward the
> surface, it is attached by bacteria, making it appear
> to have an organic origin dating back to the
> dinosaurs."
>
> using this theory to justify deep oil drilling in
> Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico, among other
> locations, with some success. Dr. Kenney is on
> record predicting that parts of Siberia contain a
> deep reservoir of oil equal to or exceeding that
> already discovered in the Middle East.
>
> Could this be true?
>
> In August 2002, in the "Proceedings of the
> National Academy of Sciences (US)," Dr. Kenney
> published a paper, which had a partial
> title of "The genesis of hydrocarbons and the
> origin of petroleum."Dr. Kenney and three
> Russian co-authors conclude:
>
> The Hydrogen-Carbon system does not
> spontaneously evolve hydrocarbons at pressures
> less than 30 Kbar, [a measure of pressure =
> 1000 bars] even in the most favourable
> environment. The H-C system evolves
> hydrocarbons under pressures found in the
> mantle of the Earth and at temperatures
> consistent with that environment.
>
> He was quoted as stating that "competent
> physicists, chemists, chemical engineers and men
> knowledgeable of thermodynamics have known
> that natural petroleum does not evolve from
> biological materials since the last quarter of the
> 19th century."
>
> Deeply entrenched in our culture is the belief that
> at some point in the relatively near future we will
> see the last working pump on the last functioning
> oil well screech and rattle, and that will be that.
> The end of the Age of Oil. And unless we find
> another source of cheap energy, the world will
> rapidly become a much darker and dangerous
> place.
>
> If Dr. Gold and Dr. Kenney are correct, this "the
> end of the world as we know it" scenario simply
> won't happen. Think about it ... while not
> inexhaustible, deep Earth reserves of inorganic
> crude oil and commercially feasible extraction
> would provide the world with generations of low
> cost fuel. Dr. Gold has been quoted saying that
> current worldwide reserves of crude oil could be
> off by a factor of over 100.
>
> A Hedberg Conference, sponsored by the
> American Association of Petroleum Geologists,
> was scheduled to discuss and publicly debate
> this issue. Papers were solicited from interested
> academics and professionals. The conference was
> scheduled to begin June 9, 2003, but was
> cancelled at the last minute. It never happened.
>
> [That conference will never happen even though
> the theories outlined in Dr. Gold's last book, have
> already been proved in ''new'' wells in
> the gulf of Mexico and the south Atlantic off of
> Brazil. The API is more interested in maintaining
> high prices for crude than it is for proving
> unlimited supplies- LP]
>
> Chris Bennett manages an environmental
> engineering division for a West
> Coast technology firm. He and his wife of 26 years
> make their home on the San Francisco Bay.