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"troppo" <t--...@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:XnsA06798DB8DCB4troppo19@88.198.244.100...
> "dechucka" <dechuc...@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:XNudnXlU97gfL1fSnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au:
>
>>
>> "troppo" <t--...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:XnsA06762B15F0DDtroppo19@88.198.244.100...
>>> jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote in news:T3xyr.7611$v14.769
>>> @viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com:
>>>
>>>> On 2/06/2012 11:37 AM, .G. r. e e n c o n wrote:
>>>>> It's all perception created by a vastly larger media.  Every little
>>>>> thing is of "dire" importance and (because 4/5ths of the adult
>>>>> population suffers from innumeracy) people believe things are more
>>>>> severe than long ago.  They aren't.  Now, everyone with a phone can
>>>>> film a tornado and every house blown down in a hurricane has its
>>>>> image blasted across the globe in seconds.  What result did anyone
>>>>> expect?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure anyone knows what to expect, but melting ice caps and
>>>> rising sea levels would seem to be a good indicator.
>>>
>>> have a look at
>>>
>>> http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/man-made-sea-level-rises-are-due-to-
>>> global-adjustments/
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/x19yO
>>>
>>> http://joannenova.com.au/2011/12/australian-sea-level-rises-exaggerate
>>> d-by- 8-fold-or-maybe-ten/
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/aemOr
>>>
>>> I picked up on the last one, because it has been part of my work for
>>> years to keep an eye on several local tide gauges, for establishing
>>> HAT values etc.
>>>
>>> The "adjusters" are too stupid to realise that the raw data is
>>> available from more than one source.
>>
>> IF what you says is true you should have a grasp of reality ...
>
> I do have a grasp of reality. I noticed that (a) much of what was being
> claimed did not match my own records, then (b) much of what was being
> claimed was based on modelling of adjusted values. Enough to explain why
> the results didn't match reality
>
>> .... the water from the retreating glaciers and ice shelves plus the
>> thermal expansion of the oceans is having an effect
>
> Sure, the levels rise - then fall. The fluctuations tend to follow a flat
> sine wave pattern. In the area I am concerned with, this pattern follows
> pressure and temperature changes associated with the Southern Oscillation
> Index.
>
> Nothing to see here - move along ...

I agree till you produce something