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z0n0b

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:22:13 AM7/6/09
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This corrupted data plus debunked climate models are the only legs greenhoax
has to stand on!

July 6 2009

Meteorologist Anthony Watts and his volunteers meticulously checked the
siting of most of the 1221 US weather stations that had allegedly recorded a
rise in temperatures over the past century.

What they found was that a great many temperature gauges (9 out of 10) were
in fact in areas increasingly surrounded by heat-trapping concrete and
asphalt, or even machinery, which would exaggerate temperature readings over
time. (See the MMTS above.)

The US National Climate Data Center has since claimed that Watts' findings
really didn't make much difference to anything because any inaccuracies
magically balanced out and, besides, it was the trend in temperature, not
the absolute value of even a badly positioned site, that counted. What's
more, the reported trend of rising temperatures fitted with other evidence,
for instance: "Plants are blooming earlier in the spring."

Now Professor Roger Pielke Sr, one of the world's leading climatologists,
tears the NCDC defence to shreds, saying the NCDC had ignored poor siting
for years and had no evidence to back its claim that this problem did not
exaggerate warming measurements.

The evidence was in fact rather the reverse:

Their claim that temperatures have been "rising rapidly" over the past 50
years is based on the surface temperature record in which there are reported
warm biases; e.g. see Pielke Sr. (et al)

And, suggested Pielke, claiming that plants were blooming earlier was just
clutching at straws:

However, a new paper in press (see White MA et al) ...

says:

"Trend estimates from the SOS [Start of Spring] methods as well as measured
and modeled plant phenologystrongly suggest either no or very geographically
limited trends towards earlier spring arrival, although we caution that, for
an event such as SOS with high interannual variability, a 25-year SOS record
is short for detecting robust trends."

Pielke concludes of the NCDC what we might conclude of so many such
warming-preaching bodies, including our own CSIRO:

"NCDC would be a much more valuable resource in the climate community if
they worked to be inclusive in presenting all peer reviewed perspectives in
climate science. Currently, they are only reporting on information that
supports their agenda and not communicating real world observational data
that conflicts with that agenda."

Moral:

If the US data on warming is so dodgy, how much can we rely on weather
stations in vast countries such as China, Russia, Brazil and India?

Or even in Italy?

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/how_not_to_measure_warming/

Warmest Regards

Bonzo


Peter Webb

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:13:09 AM7/6/09
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"z0n0b" <i...@j.com> wrote in message news:4a517bf4$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

Because China, Russia, Brazil and India have not layed any concrete,
installed any machinery or constructed any new buildings near any weather
stations in the past 25 years, so their data won't have the same systemic
measurement problem?

Is that right? Did I answer correctly?


z0n0b

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:23:57 AM7/6/09
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"Peter Webb" <webbf...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Huh?
You're joking right?

Warmest Regards

Bonzo

Australia Mining Pioneer & Founder of the True Geology

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Jul 6, 2009, 1:33:05 AM7/6/09
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On Jul 6, 6:13 am, "Peter Webb" <webbfam...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au>
wrote:
> "z0n0b" <i...@j.com> wrote in messagenews:4a517bf4$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
*> Is that right? Did I answer correctly?

Yes you did, Sir
Thank you for being aware !

Kind forward now of reply I provided on sci.geo.geology under title of
Re: "Denialism and crankery"
**************************************************************

On Jul 6, 5:20 am, Andrew Usher <k_over_hb...@yahoo.com> wrote:

- Show quoted text -
Thanks for introducing yourself : Are you a crank, a denialist, a
conspiracist, a creationist/evolutionist or evolutionist/creationist
(same folly), a sci000ntific fool standing for Ice Ages, Glaciation,
Continental rafting, Carbonate sedimentation from fossils reduction,
stabillity of Earth on Ecliptics, rotation & revolution from inertia,
etc etc etc..........;

.... in brief are you a BIG BOOMER alongside 1000s of other
Universities brainwashed imbeciles ?

If so, you are certainly as well as denialist of the Russian
Holocaust
(100 millions victims & 1 100 death camps) denialist of the French
Holocaust ( 10 millions victims & genocide of 2 milions Vendéens)
denialist of the 9/11 Holocaust mass murder of American by Bush & co,
denialist of the Port Arthur mass murder by Howard & co !

Look Andrewr, you 've really spoiled my day by demonstrating to
what
extent an otherwise agreeable & civil young gentleman of your kind
(an
a excellent second at tennis to boost) can be conceited to the point
of presenting under the pretence of honesty one of the most worn out
&
unpalatable defense of fraudulent & misleading system of thought : in
clear Righthousness !

You 're clearly remembering me of Jean Calvin sending Michel Servetus
to the stake in 1553 :
"If he [Servetus] comes [to Geneva], I shall never let him go out
alive if my authority has weight."
Now Servetus was obviously a denialist of the "holy trinity" a crank,
a conspiracionist etc all bundled up into what 's clearly an
"Heretic"
...and whom, you Andrew Usher, the absolute reference with regards
to what is true or false, would blithely send to the stakes, while
hiding (as Calvin did) when the flames would rise to engulf your
opposition !

With best but sorry regards

Sir Jean-Paul Turcaud
Australia Mining Pioneer
Discoverer & Legal Owner of Telfer Mine (Australia largest Copper &
Gold MIne)
Nifty (Cu) & Kintyre (U, Th) Mines, all in the Great Sandy Desert
Exploration Geologist & Offshore Consultant
Founder of the True Geology

~ Ignorance is the Cosmic Sin, the One Never Forgiven ~

Published by AMERICAN CHRONICLE
"True Geology" Foundation Document
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/69327
"Turcaud Bath" as a free gift to Suffering Humanity
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/107947

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Eric Gisin

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Jul 6, 2009, 4:39:40 PM7/6/09
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"Peter Webb" <webbf...@DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Because China, Russia, Brazil and India have not layed any concrete, installed any machinery or
> constructed any new buildings near any weather stations in the past 25 years, so their data won't
> have the same systemic measurement problem?
>
> Is that right? Did I answer correctly?
>
Hey, that's funny.

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