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David Dalton
Feb 4, 2012, 10:53:20 PM2/4/12
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Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
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be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
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Paul in Houston TX
Feb 4, 2012, 11:25:31 PM2/4/12
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David Dalton wrote:
> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
No.
> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
David Dalton
Feb 4, 2012, 11:30:12 PM2/4/12
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In article <jgl0dk$bcm$1...@dont-email.me>,
Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
plate boundary?
plate boundary?
Paul in Houston TX
Feb 4, 2012, 11:53:25 PM2/4/12
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David Dalton wrote:
> In article <jgl0dk$bcm$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Paul in Houston TX <Pa...@Houston.com> wrote:
>
>> David Dalton wrote:
>>> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
>>> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>> No.
>
> Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
> plate boundary?
>
I suppose it is possible.
> In article <jgl0dk$bcm$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Paul in Houston TX <Pa...@Houston.com> wrote:
>
>> David Dalton wrote:
>>> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
>>> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>> No.
>
> Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
> plate boundary?
>
However, a 5.7 is a pretty good stress reliever.
I would be more worried if there were no small earthquakes,
like the 5.7.
Skywise
Feb 5, 2012, 1:17:00 AM2/5/12
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Paul in Houston TX <Pa...@Houston.com> wrote in news:jgl21v$g3h$1@dont-
email.me:
> David Dalton wrote:
>> In article <jgl0dk$bcm$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Paul in Houston TX <Pa...@Houston.com> wrote:
>>
>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
>>>> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>>> No.
>>
>> Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
>> plate boundary?
>>
> I suppose it is possible.
> However, a 5.7 is a pretty good stress reliever.
Compared to what?
Each point in magnitude is ~32x increase in energy, therefore
it would take 32 magnitude 5.7 quakes to equal the same energy
as a 6.7 quake. If you want to relieve the stress of a 7.7
quake, you'd need 1000 of these 5.7 quakes.
Cascadia has the potential of a magnitude 9. Let's make it
easy and say we need to relieve the 'stress' of a mag 8.7.
How many of these 5.7's do we need? Yep, about 32 thousand!!!
The point here is that this 5.7 didn't do diddly squat to reduce
the chances of a larger quake in the future.
Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
email.me:
> David Dalton wrote:
>> In article <jgl0dk$bcm$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Paul in Houston TX <Pa...@Houston.com> wrote:
>>
>>> David Dalton wrote:
>>>> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
>>>> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>>> No.
>>
>> Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
>> plate boundary?
>>
> I suppose it is possible.
> However, a 5.7 is a pretty good stress reliever.
Each point in magnitude is ~32x increase in energy, therefore
it would take 32 magnitude 5.7 quakes to equal the same energy
as a 6.7 quake. If you want to relieve the stress of a 7.7
quake, you'd need 1000 of these 5.7 quakes.
Cascadia has the potential of a magnitude 9. Let's make it
easy and say we need to relieve the 'stress' of a mag 8.7.
How many of these 5.7's do we need? Yep, about 32 thousand!!!
The point here is that this 5.7 didn't do diddly squat to reduce
the chances of a larger quake in the future.
Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
Don in Hollister
Feb 5, 2012, 1:26:31 AM2/5/12
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>
> Cascadia has the potential of a magnitude 9. Let's make it
> easy and say we need to relieve the 'stress' of a mag 8.7.
> How many of these 5.7's do we need? Yep, about 32 thousand!!!
>
> The point here is that this 5.7 didn't do diddly squat to reduce
> the chances of a larger quake in the future.
>
> Brian
> Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
Hi All. The M5.7 could be a foreshock to larger quake, but there is
no way of knowing that unless a larger quake occurs.
The map show the locations of all M5.0+ quakes since 1914. The ANSS
quake catalog was used using a 320Km radius from the most recent
M5.7.
As for releasing stress. You would need a little less then 32,000
M5.7 quakes to release the same amount of stress as one M8.7 quake.
They would have to occur one right after the other. If anything it
increased stress by minute amounts at other locations.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Quakemeister/VancouverIslandquakessince1914M50.jpg?t=1328422608
Paul in Houston TX
Feb 5, 2012, 2:35:37 AM2/5/12
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being relieved suddenly.
If the stress gets relieved in small movements before it gets
to the 6.7 state, the 6.7 will never happen.
Skywise
Feb 5, 2012, 4:12:20 AM2/5/12
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Paul in Houston TX <Pa...@Houston.com> wrote in news:jglbi4$g30$1@dont-
email.me:
> Quakes happen due to compressive stress along a fault plane
> being relieved suddenly.
> If the stress gets relieved in small movements before it gets
> to the 6.7 state, the 6.7 will never happen.
Let's try this a different way...
It's a gross oversimplification, but let's say the stress builds
at a constant rate. Let's say it takes 100 years for the stress
to build up such that it would cause a mag 6.7 quake.
In order for a number of 5.7's to relieve that stress and prevent
that 6.7 in 100 years, there would have to be 32 of those 5.7's in
that 100 years - a 5.7 every 3 years or so.
Now, since a 5.7 doesn't happen every three years, the stress is
still building up. Eventually, that 6.7 will still happen.
Of course, it _is_ much more complex than that. For one, that 5.7
only relieved the stress on a small part of the fault. It did nothing
to relieve it elsewhere. It's even entirely possible that it ADDED
to the stress elsewhere. It may have brought other more stressed
parts of the fault closer to breaking. It _may_ be a foreshock of
things to come. Then again, it may not.
Let's put in some more real numbers. Again, the Cascadia subduction
zone could generate a magnitude 9 quake. The last one seems to have
been back in 1700. Rounding off that's 300 years ago. Let's say it
takes 500 years to build the stress for a magnitude 9 quake. To
relieve that stress, you'd need 1000 mag 7 quakes, or one million
magnitude 5 quakes. Since we're only 3/5th's into the cycle, there
would have to have been 600 magnitude 7's or 600,000 magnitude 5's
in order to keep up with the stress buildup. Have there been that
many quakes of these sizes since 1700?
Remember what I first said, each full point of magnitude represents
a 32 fold increase in energy. 2 points is 1000x, 3 points = 32,000,
4 points = 1 million, 5 points is 32 million.... etc... It's a
logarithmic scale.
If this one little 5.7 quake relieved any stress on Cascadia, it
only delayed the inevitable 9.0 by a few days, maybe a couple weeks
at best.
email.me:
> Quakes happen due to compressive stress along a fault plane
> being relieved suddenly.
> If the stress gets relieved in small movements before it gets
> to the 6.7 state, the 6.7 will never happen.
It's a gross oversimplification, but let's say the stress builds
at a constant rate. Let's say it takes 100 years for the stress
to build up such that it would cause a mag 6.7 quake.
In order for a number of 5.7's to relieve that stress and prevent
that 6.7 in 100 years, there would have to be 32 of those 5.7's in
that 100 years - a 5.7 every 3 years or so.
Now, since a 5.7 doesn't happen every three years, the stress is
still building up. Eventually, that 6.7 will still happen.
Of course, it _is_ much more complex than that. For one, that 5.7
only relieved the stress on a small part of the fault. It did nothing
to relieve it elsewhere. It's even entirely possible that it ADDED
to the stress elsewhere. It may have brought other more stressed
parts of the fault closer to breaking. It _may_ be a foreshock of
things to come. Then again, it may not.
Let's put in some more real numbers. Again, the Cascadia subduction
zone could generate a magnitude 9 quake. The last one seems to have
been back in 1700. Rounding off that's 300 years ago. Let's say it
takes 500 years to build the stress for a magnitude 9 quake. To
relieve that stress, you'd need 1000 mag 7 quakes, or one million
magnitude 5 quakes. Since we're only 3/5th's into the cycle, there
would have to have been 600 magnitude 7's or 600,000 magnitude 5's
in order to keep up with the stress buildup. Have there been that
many quakes of these sizes since 1700?
Remember what I first said, each full point of magnitude represents
a 32 fold increase in energy. 2 points is 1000x, 3 points = 32,000,
4 points = 1 million, 5 points is 32 million.... etc... It's a
logarithmic scale.
If this one little 5.7 quake relieved any stress on Cascadia, it
only delayed the inevitable 9.0 by a few days, maybe a couple weeks
at best.
Weatherlawyer
Feb 5, 2012, 7:38:52 AM2/5/12
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On Feb 5, 6:17 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Paul in Houston TX <P...@Houston.com> wrote innews:jgl21v$g3h$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > David Dalton wrote:
> >> In article <jgl0dk$bc...@dont-email.me>,
And you won't learn cause.
If a quake is caused by a plume rising from subducted material it will
tend to cause more stress relief in the same way as opening a can of
pop will release more than one bubble.
Not only that but it will bring the windypops up from all over the
planet.
For a remarkable weather barometer for earthquakes you would do well
to follow the charts on here:
> http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=AEDT&area=SH&model=G
When a Lows system leaves one of the continents it has to break
through the anticylone blet to get to the Arctic.
Why it has to do that when it could get rid of its energy by mixing
then and ther and why it then has to go to the Antarctic continent
each and every time for all three continents supplying the cyclonic
masses sis a demonstration of the wave effect of weather.
Once it reaches the Antarctic hit has to rise the three or so miles of
dome the continent comprises.
Rising in that temperature it loses its cyclonic identity and would
become and High instead of a Low.
But wave physics isn't like that. What happens instead is that the
wave goes underground. How and the rest of it I do not yet know.
Observe the action when one of those dark patches reaches a bay such
as the Ross Ice Shelf as it did with that mag 7 recently.
> >>> David Dalton wrote:
> >>>> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> >>>> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
Yes.
And no.
It takes a great deal of energy out of the system to produce a quake
of that magnitude.
Also the enrgy involved is related to storms that rach cyclosis some
80 degrees from the epicentre. This rarely happens in most places
because large storm are generally confined to so few regions. However
this is a remarkable wea5her spell the equale to that of 1947 and
1963.
Earthquakes occur in aquifers several miles down. The pressure and
temperature has to be enough to dissolve rock. The tidal nature of
earthquake and wave physics does the rest.
You will notice that mountain building isn't incremental but they are
shoved up out of the ground several meters at a time according to the
severity of the quake.
Another statistic in the favour of plate tech being the work of fools
is that most quakes are in the mounts not the trenches, almost always
along the same stretch of coast measured from the shelf height.
***
One more thing, you being a citizen of eastern Canada:
You will notice the behaviour of the MetO North Atlantic chart
corresponds with the occurrence of quakes. Currently it is also
showing its relationship with tornadic cells.
When one of your Lows passes through a Greenland High and almost any
other High to the east of it, there is a tendency for tornadoes -as
shown in the tornado reports charts from NWS.
You can find evidence for this at:
> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/120201_rpts.html
and
> http://www.woksat.info/wwp7.html
> Paul in Houston TX <P...@Houston.com> wrote innews:jgl21v$g3h$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > David Dalton wrote:
> >> In article <jgl0dk$bc...@dont-email.me>,
> >> Paul in Houston TX <P...@Houston.com> wrote:
> >>> David Dalton wrote:
> >>>> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> >>>> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?>
> >>> No.
>
> >> Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
> >> plate boundary?
>
> > I suppose it is possible.
> > However, a 5.7 is a pretty good stress reliever.
>
> Compared to what?
>
> Each point in magnitude is ~32x increase in energy, therefore
> it would take 32 magnitude 5.7 quakes to equal the same energy
> as a 6.7 quake. If you want to relieve the stress of a 7.7
> quake, you'd need 1000 of these 5.7 quakes.
>
> Cascadia has the potential of a magnitude 9. Let's make it
> easy and say we need to relieve the 'stress' of a mag 8.7.
> How many of these 5.7's do we need? Yep, about 32 thousand!!!
>
> The point here is that this 5.7 didn't do diddly squat to reduce
> the chances of a larger quake in the future.
Wrong. You are confusing scale with cause.
> >>> David Dalton wrote:
> >>>> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> >>>> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?>
> >>> No.
>
> >> Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
> >> plate boundary?
>
> > I suppose it is possible.
> > However, a 5.7 is a pretty good stress reliever.
>
> Compared to what?
>
> Each point in magnitude is ~32x increase in energy, therefore
> it would take 32 magnitude 5.7 quakes to equal the same energy
> as a 6.7 quake. If you want to relieve the stress of a 7.7
> quake, you'd need 1000 of these 5.7 quakes.
>
> Cascadia has the potential of a magnitude 9. Let's make it
> easy and say we need to relieve the 'stress' of a mag 8.7.
> How many of these 5.7's do we need? Yep, about 32 thousand!!!
>
> The point here is that this 5.7 didn't do diddly squat to reduce
> the chances of a larger quake in the future.
And you won't learn cause.
If a quake is caused by a plume rising from subducted material it will
tend to cause more stress relief in the same way as opening a can of
pop will release more than one bubble.
Not only that but it will bring the windypops up from all over the
planet.
For a remarkable weather barometer for earthquakes you would do well
to follow the charts on here:
> http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=AEDT&area=SH&model=G
When a Lows system leaves one of the continents it has to break
through the anticylone blet to get to the Arctic.
Why it has to do that when it could get rid of its energy by mixing
then and ther and why it then has to go to the Antarctic continent
each and every time for all three continents supplying the cyclonic
masses sis a demonstration of the wave effect of weather.
Once it reaches the Antarctic hit has to rise the three or so miles of
dome the continent comprises.
Rising in that temperature it loses its cyclonic identity and would
become and High instead of a Low.
But wave physics isn't like that. What happens instead is that the
wave goes underground. How and the rest of it I do not yet know.
Observe the action when one of those dark patches reaches a bay such
as the Ross Ice Shelf as it did with that mag 7 recently.
> >>> David Dalton wrote:
> >>>> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> >>>> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
And no.
It takes a great deal of energy out of the system to produce a quake
of that magnitude.
Also the enrgy involved is related to storms that rach cyclosis some
80 degrees from the epicentre. This rarely happens in most places
because large storm are generally confined to so few regions. However
this is a remarkable wea5her spell the equale to that of 1947 and
1963.
Earthquakes occur in aquifers several miles down. The pressure and
temperature has to be enough to dissolve rock. The tidal nature of
earthquake and wave physics does the rest.
You will notice that mountain building isn't incremental but they are
shoved up out of the ground several meters at a time according to the
severity of the quake.
Another statistic in the favour of plate tech being the work of fools
is that most quakes are in the mounts not the trenches, almost always
along the same stretch of coast measured from the shelf height.
***
One more thing, you being a citizen of eastern Canada:
You will notice the behaviour of the MetO North Atlantic chart
corresponds with the occurrence of quakes. Currently it is also
showing its relationship with tornadic cells.
When one of your Lows passes through a Greenland High and almost any
other High to the east of it, there is a tendency for tornadoes -as
shown in the tornado reports charts from NWS.
You can find evidence for this at:
> http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/120201_rpts.html
and
> http://www.woksat.info/wwp7.html
Weatherlawyer
Feb 5, 2012, 7:46:57 AM2/5/12
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On Feb 5, 6:26 am, Don in Hollister <don...@garlic.com> wrote
How are things?
> The map show the locations of all M5.0+ quakes since 1914. The ANSS
> quake catalog was used using a 320Km radius from the most recent
> M5.7.
>
> As for releasing stress. You would need a little less than 32,000
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Quakemeister/VancouverIslandqua...
More proof if any was needed that subduction is a crock of czjd. With
all that wet silt going down to the gates of hell there should be a
line of quakes all along the socalledbduction, not just spikes a few
miles in diameter like that.
Could you use that radius to plug in where 80 degrees is on a great
circle and thus relate them more accurately to storms?
>
> Hi All. The M5.7 could be a foreshock to larger quake, but there is
> no way of knowing that unless a larger quake occurs.
Hello Donald.
> Hi All. The M5.7 could be a foreshock to larger quake, but there is
> no way of knowing that unless a larger quake occurs.
How are things?
> The map show the locations of all M5.0+ quakes since 1914. The ANSS
> quake catalog was used using a 320Km radius from the most recent
> M5.7.
>
> M5.7 quakes to release the same amount of stress as one M8.7 quake.
> They would have to occur one right after the other. If anything it
> increased stress by minute amounts at other locations.
So it WOULD be like opening a bottle of pop.
> They would have to occur one right after the other. If anything it
> increased stress by minute amounts at other locations.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y151/Quakemeister/VancouverIslandqua...
More proof if any was needed that subduction is a crock of czjd. With
all that wet silt going down to the gates of hell there should be a
line of quakes all along the socalledbduction, not just spikes a few
miles in diameter like that.
Could you use that radius to plug in where 80 degrees is on a great
circle and thus relate them more accurately to storms?
Weatherlawyer
Feb 5, 2012, 7:51:56 AM2/5/12
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On Feb 5, 9:12 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Paul in Houston TX <P...@Houston.com> wrote innews:jglbi4$g30$1@dont-
Now lets explain how doubles and trebles show up on the North Atlantic
weather chart.
> Paul in Houston TX <P...@Houston.com> wrote innews:jglbi4$g30$1@dont-
weather chart.
Weatherlawyer
Feb 5, 2012, 7:52:27 AM2/5/12
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On Feb 5, 7:35 am, Paul in Houston TX <P...@Houston.com> wrote:
>
> Quakes happen due to compressive stress along a fault plane
> being relieved suddenly.
> If the stress gets relieved in small movements before it gets
> to the 6.7 state, the 6.7 will never happen.
How does the stress get there if the effort of plates jumping each
>
> Quakes happen due to compressive stress along a fault plane
> being relieved suddenly.
> If the stress gets relieved in small movements before it gets
> to the 6.7 state, the 6.7 will never happen.
other like porn stars is so energy intensive.
Apart form action and reaction being equal and opposite, the so called
relief is only due to hot water plumes, isn't it.
Where is the rest of the energy coming from. All the angels flapping
their wings to push the planets to and fro?
This sound like a discussion aimed at the morons in sci.physics.
Paul in Houston TX
Feb 5, 2012, 12:28:19 PM2/5/12
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Thank you for taking the time to write that.
Paul
Skywise
Feb 5, 2012, 7:28:05 PM2/5/12
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Paul in Houston TX <Pa...@Houston.com> wrote in news:jgme9d$lj3$1@dont-
email.me:
> That is a great explanation!
> Thank you for taking the time to write that.
> Paul
You're welcome. I'm glad I was able to find a way of explaining it
that you understood.
email.me:
> That is a great explanation!
> Thank you for taking the time to write that.
> Paul
that you understood.
kolldata
Feb 5, 2012, 8:32:49 PM2/5/12
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FOLLOW Sea of Cortez quakes to Whitney/Olancha
then line of activity from Mammoth thru Utah, Yellowstone
with pressure against Japan from Asia
a line up thru the San Andreas, m.ajor slipping for 3 weeks ? ro rhe
Pinnacles
offfshore San Andreas
then BC
done cept for a line of force thru to Ohio
try a polar view
then line of activity from Mammoth thru Utah, Yellowstone
with pressure against Japan from Asia
a line up thru the San Andreas, m.ajor slipping for 3 weeks ? ro rhe
Pinnacles
offfshore San Andreas
then BC
done cept for a line of force thru to Ohio
try a polar view
Bob
Feb 5, 2012, 11:33:41 PM2/5/12
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On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:00:12 -0330, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
>> No.
>
>Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
>plate boundary?
A fault like the "ring of fire"...from BC to Australia all along
>> No.
>
>Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
>plate boundary?
the Port coasts.
BC, especially GVRD, is not plated, it's silted. GVRD is built on
a Bubble 1 mile down at the Main/Hastings, to the UBC Loop, which is why
all the silt has dipped down a lot of buildings, in the last 200 years.
It's like a large Orlando Florida "Sink Hole".
That makes it earthquake proof, and the only real way you can nuke
B.C. is to fire X2 1 Megaton, 1 mile penetrating Nuclear Rockets like
Joshua and Excalibur "from their orbital station", at Vancouver.
Usually Nuclear Bombs/Rockets are detonated 500km from the earths
surface for maximum effect surface. So why do these rockets (Joshua and
Excalibur) have a 1 mile penetration?
In effect, an earthquake disaster is almost impossible compared to
"other disasters".
Have a Nice Day
Bob
--
Triad Productions-Fantalla~(c)~EZine~ParaNovel
National Astrophysical Assault Research
www>> (http://triad.naar.be)
http://mypage.uniserve.com/~vampire-inter/index.html
Skywise
Feb 6, 2012, 1:01:31 AM2/6/12
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Bob <sci...@health.info> wrote in news:94lui7d7rvjupqd7rr1mkpvucci01rivrg@
4ax.com:
<Snipola of fantasia>
"Not even wrong." - Wolfgang Pauli
4ax.com:
<Snipola of fantasia>
"Not even wrong." - Wolfgang Pauli
R. LaCasse
Feb 6, 2012, 3:49:09 AM2/6/12
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On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 06:01:31 GMT, Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com>
wrote:
>Bob <sci...@health.info> wrote in news:94lui7d7rvjupqd7rr1mkpvucci01rivrg@
>4ax.com:
>
><Snipola of fantasia>
>
>"Not even wrong." - Wolfgang Pauli
>
>Brian
"Fantasia".......How much you wanna bet??????, say $10,000++++????
Bob
wrote:
>Bob <sci...@health.info> wrote in news:94lui7d7rvjupqd7rr1mkpvucci01rivrg@
>4ax.com:
>
><Snipola of fantasia>
>
>"Not even wrong." - Wolfgang Pauli
>
>Brian
Bob
kolldata
Feb 6, 2012, 9:46:38 AM2/6/12
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guess whose tuned in ?
http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesView/sid/50633/
kolldata
Feb 6, 2012, 10:08:42 AM2/6/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
YEAH TRY THis page at 400% magnification for linkage
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
then go to the CA/NV map for 'reality'
Skywise
Feb 6, 2012, 12:07:32 PM2/6/12
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R. LaCasse <n...@propaganda.info> wrote in
news:ns4vi7tmk3nnpn3ra...@4ax.com:
hahahahahaha.... a sure sign of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
news:ns4vi7tmk3nnpn3ra...@4ax.com:
oriel36
Feb 6, 2012, 4:46:07 PM2/6/12
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On Feb 6, 12:28 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Paul in Houston TX <P...@Houston.com> wrote innews:jgme9d$lj3$1@dont-
I see they are getting up to speed,so to speak,with the Earth's
rotating interior although they threw the kitchen sink at it rather
than the neat reasoning which links planetary shape with crustal
evolution/motion through a common mechanism.In 2005 when this was
discussed at length in this forum,the only game in town was a
stationary Earth 'convection cells' -
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plate_tectonics&oldid=29688503
There is even a thread with you in it and while my proofreading skills
haven't improved much over the years,there is a lot of enjoyment now
watching the first attempts to explain rotation as the highest
probability of success for explaining Earthquakes as short term
signatures of a rotating planet and in context of wider crustal
evolution.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.earthquakes/msg/0960df8d19d697c1
Sooner or later they are going to run into the 26 mile spherical
deviation of the planet when dealing with the rotating fluid interior
hence the neat link with the uneven rotational gradient between
equatorial and polar latitudes and all the clues left on the surface
crust which indicate a lag/advance mechanism of differential rotation.
It doesn't matter if attribution is poor or not at all,I have watched
over the last 7 years as the ideology of a mechanism has morphed from
'convection cells' to where it is now and that has been lovely.The
fact is that rotation has the highest probability of explaining
evolutionary geology yet investigators can;t move without assigning
the proper equatorial speed of 1037.5 miles per hour and a full
rotation of the Earth maximum 24901 mile circumference in 24 hours in
order to work with the uneven rotational gradient of the fluid
interior.
> Paul in Houston TX <P...@Houston.com> wrote innews:jgme9d$lj3$1@dont-
> email.me:
>
> > That is a great explanation!
> > Thank you for taking the time to write that.
> > Paul
>
> You're welcome. I'm glad I was able to find a way of explaining it
> that you understood.
>
> Brian
> --http://www.skywise711.com- Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
>
> > That is a great explanation!
> > Thank you for taking the time to write that.
> > Paul
>
> You're welcome. I'm glad I was able to find a way of explaining it
> that you understood.
>
> Brian
> Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
Well if it isn't Brian,how's your convections cells going these days ?
I see they are getting up to speed,so to speak,with the Earth's
rotating interior although they threw the kitchen sink at it rather
than the neat reasoning which links planetary shape with crustal
evolution/motion through a common mechanism.In 2005 when this was
discussed at length in this forum,the only game in town was a
stationary Earth 'convection cells' -
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Plate_tectonics&oldid=29688503
There is even a thread with you in it and while my proofreading skills
haven't improved much over the years,there is a lot of enjoyment now
watching the first attempts to explain rotation as the highest
probability of success for explaining Earthquakes as short term
signatures of a rotating planet and in context of wider crustal
evolution.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.earthquakes/msg/0960df8d19d697c1
Sooner or later they are going to run into the 26 mile spherical
deviation of the planet when dealing with the rotating fluid interior
hence the neat link with the uneven rotational gradient between
equatorial and polar latitudes and all the clues left on the surface
crust which indicate a lag/advance mechanism of differential rotation.
It doesn't matter if attribution is poor or not at all,I have watched
over the last 7 years as the ideology of a mechanism has morphed from
'convection cells' to where it is now and that has been lovely.The
fact is that rotation has the highest probability of explaining
evolutionary geology yet investigators can;t move without assigning
the proper equatorial speed of 1037.5 miles per hour and a full
rotation of the Earth maximum 24901 mile circumference in 24 hours in
order to work with the uneven rotational gradient of the fluid
interior.
David Dalton
Feb 6, 2012, 11:40:54 PM2/6/12
to
In article <94lui7d7rvjupqd7r...@4ax.com>,
and amplify the surface waves from the earthquake
and then if those surface waves have frequencies
which match the resonant frequencies of skyscrapers
then major damage can occur. I think something
like that happened in Mexico City years ago?
David (geophysicist, but not an earthquake seismologist)
Bob <sci...@health.info> wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:00:12 -0330, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
>
> >> No.
> >
> >Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
> >plate boundary?
>
> A fault like the "ring of fire"...from BC to Australia all along
> the Port coasts.
>
> BC, especially GVRD, is not plated, it's silted. GVRD is built on
> a Bubble 1 mile down at the Main/Hastings, to the UBC Loop, which is why
> all the silt has dipped down a lot of buildings, in the last 200 years.
> It's like a large Orlando Florida "Sink Hole".
>
> That makes it earthquake proof, and the only real way you can nuke
> B.C. is to fire X2 1 Megaton, 1 mile penetrating Nuclear Rockets like
> Joshua and Excalibur "from their orbital station", at Vancouver.
>
> Usually Nuclear Bombs/Rockets are detonated 500km from the earths
> surface for maximum effect surface. So why do these rockets (Joshua and
> Excalibur) have a 1 mile penetration?
>
> In effect, an earthquake disaster is almost impossible compared to
> "other disasters".
>
> Have a Nice Day
>
> Bob
But a basin of silt can actually act like a lens
> On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:00:12 -0330, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
>
> >> No.
> >
> >Why not? Is it not located on a major fault or
> >plate boundary?
>
> A fault like the "ring of fire"...from BC to Australia all along
> the Port coasts.
>
> BC, especially GVRD, is not plated, it's silted. GVRD is built on
> a Bubble 1 mile down at the Main/Hastings, to the UBC Loop, which is why
> all the silt has dipped down a lot of buildings, in the last 200 years.
> It's like a large Orlando Florida "Sink Hole".
>
> That makes it earthquake proof, and the only real way you can nuke
> B.C. is to fire X2 1 Megaton, 1 mile penetrating Nuclear Rockets like
> Joshua and Excalibur "from their orbital station", at Vancouver.
>
> Usually Nuclear Bombs/Rockets are detonated 500km from the earths
> surface for maximum effect surface. So why do these rockets (Joshua and
> Excalibur) have a 1 mile penetration?
>
> In effect, an earthquake disaster is almost impossible compared to
> "other disasters".
>
> Have a Nice Day
>
> Bob
and amplify the surface waves from the earthquake
and then if those surface waves have frequencies
which match the resonant frequencies of skyscrapers
then major damage can occur. I think something
like that happened in Mexico City years ago?
David (geophysicist, but not an earthquake seismologist)
Skywise
Feb 7, 2012, 1:48:28 AM2/7/12
to
Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f53205b2-0c78-40f2-
ae14-0cc...@c20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
> Now lets explain how doubles and trebles show up on the North Atlantic
> weather chart.
This isn't a weather forum.
ae14-0cc...@c20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
> Now lets explain how doubles and trebles show up on the North Atlantic
> weather chart.
Skywise
Feb 7, 2012, 1:59:02 AM2/7/12
to
oriel36 <kellehe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:96862f03-3be4-4246-a1f9-
0e5b25...@z31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com:
<Grand Snipola>
Well if it isn't another fine example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Figured out the difference between sidereal and solar time yet?
Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
0e5b25...@z31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com:
<Grand Snipola>
Well if it isn't another fine example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
Figured out the difference between sidereal and solar time yet?
Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
R. LaCasse
Feb 7, 2012, 3:05:56 AM2/7/12
to
the silt is more diffused, causing it to dampen an earthquake, but
certainly not muffle it completely....
Hope for the best and plan for the worst...
Bob
R. LaCasse
Feb 7, 2012, 3:12:05 AM2/7/12
to
On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:07:32 GMT, Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com>
(proly a clone of Bob LaCasse circa1966) wrote:
>>
>> "Fantasia".......How much you wanna bet??????, say $10,000++++????
>>
>> Bob
>
>hahahahahaha.... a sure sign of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
>
>Brian
I said, How much you wanna bet??????, say $10,000++++????, and you
(proly a clone of Bob LaCasse circa1966) wrote:
>>
>> "Fantasia".......How much you wanna bet??????, say $10,000++++????
>>
>> Bob
>
>hahahahahaha.... a sure sign of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
>
>Brian
wanna side trail with an OT.
Bob
Feb 7, 2012, 3:14:27 AM2/7/12
to
On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:08:42 -0800 (PST), kolldata <data...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Hell your getting scary already....
Bob
wrote:
Bob
oriel36
Feb 7, 2012, 5:18:46 AM2/7/12
to
, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Something along the lines that just like the sun has different
> rotation speeds at different latitudes, the earth's mantle does
> as well, and that this is the cause of the equatorial bulge, and
> from that all things seismic.
>
When you wrote that there was nothing but 'convection cells' out there
so now with rotation firmly in wider circulation you may as well have
the details and they can put it into Wikipedia ,however, make sure you
don't mangle the insight like you did 7 years ago.Wikipedia in tandem
with the Usenet acts like an ad hoc peer review process but you
wouldn't have known this back in 2005 so while no attribution is given
to the appearance of rotation as a mechanism and no line of thought
offered,I am satisfied enough that we have made it this far in seven
years.
The reason an uneven rotational gradient (differential rotation) is
selected as having the highest probability of success for crustal
evolution and motion is that all rotating celestial objects with
exposed viscous compositions display that planetary trait and the
Earth in no exception.Among other things,it is noted that Venus has
only residual rotation,has no discernible spherical deviation and no
tectonic process outside volcanic activity.
The global feature of the Mid Atlantic Ridge requires a global
mechanism and this is where differential rotation comes into its own,
as properly understood,the lag/advance mechanism where rotational
bands move unevenly generate crust symmetrically on either side of the
Ridge with that spectacular 'S' feature that divides at the Equator
and moves in the direction of the planet's rotation.Once it is seen,it
is difficult to imagine that rotation is not the mechanism, even at
its widest possible conception -
http://www.crystalinks.com/midatlanticridgenoaa.jpg
The supporting evidence has grown substantially since 2005 as geology
yet that is not the point,there is something people genuinely like as
geology began with local observation of superposition to a global
feature like plate tectonics and now it moves into the astronomical
cycle of planetary rotation and all three from local to astronomical
compliment each other and that is why there is a huge satisfaction
working between all three facets.In short,geology is enjoyable once
more.
>
> Figured out the difference between sidereal and solar time yet?
This is where you and your colleagues are most offensive in terms of
getting the rotational mechanism understood properly.A reasonable
person knows that 1 hour time difference equates to 15 degrees of
geological separation and at the equator that amounts to 1037.5 miles
so there is not the slightest difficulty in stating,almost as a matter
of fact,that the maximum equatorial speed is 1037.5 miles/15 degrees
per hour and turning a full circumference in 24 hours.The unfortunate
fact is that you dummies imagine that the planet doesn't have that
equatorial speed and the correct values are crucial for working with
the even rotational gradient of the fractured surface crust from the
uneven rotational gradient in contact with and influencing that
crust.
The geological community has such a bad track record in listening to
innovators where issues lie outside the confines of geology and even
though I don't give priority much thought,the way plate tectonics
itself made it into wider circulation was less than subtle which is to
say,the way Wegener was treated was less than courteous.There is so
much to consider yet the main obstacle is simply stating a basic fact
that the Earth turns once in a day and then working through the
details from there.
Your 'sidereal time' creates an imbalance of 1465 rotations in 1461
days and rotational influences on evolutionary geology is basically
finished before it gets started when such an absurd view exists as a
dominant perspective and anyone who senses that the rotation of the
Earth fits in with earthquakes and plate tectonics should consider
this matter of primary concern before moving on to discuss the real
issues.
> Brian
The reason
> --http://www.skywise711.com- Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
> Something along the lines that just like the sun has different
> rotation speeds at different latitudes, the earth's mantle does
> as well, and that this is the cause of the equatorial bulge, and
> from that all things seismic.
>
When you wrote that there was nothing but 'convection cells' out there
so now with rotation firmly in wider circulation you may as well have
the details and they can put it into Wikipedia ,however, make sure you
don't mangle the insight like you did 7 years ago.Wikipedia in tandem
with the Usenet acts like an ad hoc peer review process but you
wouldn't have known this back in 2005 so while no attribution is given
to the appearance of rotation as a mechanism and no line of thought
offered,I am satisfied enough that we have made it this far in seven
years.
The reason an uneven rotational gradient (differential rotation) is
selected as having the highest probability of success for crustal
evolution and motion is that all rotating celestial objects with
exposed viscous compositions display that planetary trait and the
Earth in no exception.Among other things,it is noted that Venus has
only residual rotation,has no discernible spherical deviation and no
tectonic process outside volcanic activity.
The global feature of the Mid Atlantic Ridge requires a global
mechanism and this is where differential rotation comes into its own,
as properly understood,the lag/advance mechanism where rotational
bands move unevenly generate crust symmetrically on either side of the
Ridge with that spectacular 'S' feature that divides at the Equator
and moves in the direction of the planet's rotation.Once it is seen,it
is difficult to imagine that rotation is not the mechanism, even at
its widest possible conception -
http://www.crystalinks.com/midatlanticridgenoaa.jpg
The supporting evidence has grown substantially since 2005 as geology
yet that is not the point,there is something people genuinely like as
geology began with local observation of superposition to a global
feature like plate tectonics and now it moves into the astronomical
cycle of planetary rotation and all three from local to astronomical
compliment each other and that is why there is a huge satisfaction
working between all three facets.In short,geology is enjoyable once
more.
>
> Figured out the difference between sidereal and solar time yet?
getting the rotational mechanism understood properly.A reasonable
person knows that 1 hour time difference equates to 15 degrees of
geological separation and at the equator that amounts to 1037.5 miles
so there is not the slightest difficulty in stating,almost as a matter
of fact,that the maximum equatorial speed is 1037.5 miles/15 degrees
per hour and turning a full circumference in 24 hours.The unfortunate
fact is that you dummies imagine that the planet doesn't have that
equatorial speed and the correct values are crucial for working with
the even rotational gradient of the fractured surface crust from the
uneven rotational gradient in contact with and influencing that
crust.
The geological community has such a bad track record in listening to
innovators where issues lie outside the confines of geology and even
though I don't give priority much thought,the way plate tectonics
itself made it into wider circulation was less than subtle which is to
say,the way Wegener was treated was less than courteous.There is so
much to consider yet the main obstacle is simply stating a basic fact
that the Earth turns once in a day and then working through the
details from there.
Your 'sidereal time' creates an imbalance of 1465 rotations in 1461
days and rotational influences on evolutionary geology is basically
finished before it gets started when such an absurd view exists as a
dominant perspective and anyone who senses that the rotation of the
Earth fits in with earthquakes and plate tectonics should consider
this matter of primary concern before moving on to discuss the real
issues.
> Brian
The reason
> --http://www.skywise711.com- Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Skywise
Feb 7, 2012, 12:59:28 PM2/7/12
to
R. LaCasse <wiz...@nostredamus.info> wrote in
news:n1n1j7pil1tdok8fl...@4ax.com:
You apparently are unaware of the meaning of my references, otherwise you
would not consider them a 'side trail'.
Go research the context of the Pauli quote and study what the Dunning-Kruger
effect is. When you can demonstrate your comprehension of these subjects,
then I will consider discussing the subject of your 'bet'.
news:n1n1j7pil1tdok8fl...@4ax.com:
would not consider them a 'side trail'.
Go research the context of the Pauli quote and study what the Dunning-Kruger
effect is. When you can demonstrate your comprehension of these subjects,
then I will consider discussing the subject of your 'bet'.
Weatherlawyer
Feb 7, 2012, 4:19:56 PM2/7/12
to
On Feb 7, 6:48 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f53205b2-0c78-40f2-
> ae14-0cc3a84b0...@c20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
sci.geo.earthquakes
This one too:
sci.geo.geology
I have no idea about these:
bc.general, van.general
but assume they are covered by the term "general".
Let's see what the panel thinks, even Stan if he can be found:
uk.sci.weather
When the fronts forecast in the British Meteorological Office SSPs...
> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/surface_pressure.html
archived here:
> http://www.woksat.info/wwp7.html
...show parallel fronts, we get these things:
5.2 2012/02/06 11:40:20 9.845 123.041 15.0 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
5.8 2012/02/06 11:33:37 9.804 123.051 15.1 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
6.0 2012/02/06 10:10:24 9.874 123.070 15.0 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
5.6 2012/02/06 04:20:04 10.058 123.171 15.0 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
6.7 2012/02/06 03:49:17 9.964 123.246 20.0 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
Archived here:
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/epic/epic_global.php
And fits in nicely with the behaviour of significant Low Pressure
systems leaving the three major continents that catch Warm Pool
equatorial waves and direct them into Antarctic waters as shown here:
> http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=AEDT&area=SH&model=G
Sadly I can't find an archive for this chart. I suspect they will want
beer tokens for a DVD of them should a shmuck like me manage to get
through to them.
But archives are not required for someone who is peerless and not
interested in the kudos of tossers and other varieties of scientist.
All one has to do is follow the sequences and see for one's selves, a
not too difficult "difficulty" you appear to have difficulty with.
Too bad.
But, not my problem.
***
For all others not included in the meme "Skywise", do me a favour and
wait until the blocking high over Eaurasia has cleared before going to
town on the MetO charts, the Antarctic ones should hold good though.
Or not, as the case may be.
Have a nice day.
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:f53205b2-0c78-40f2-
> ae14-0cc3a84b0...@c20g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Now lets explain how doubles and trebles show up on the North Atlantic
> > weather chart.
>
> This isn't a weather forum.
Yes it is. Well. this one is:
> > Now lets explain how doubles and trebles show up on the North Atlantic
> > weather chart.
>
> This isn't a weather forum.
sci.geo.earthquakes
This one too:
sci.geo.geology
I have no idea about these:
bc.general, van.general
but assume they are covered by the term "general".
Let's see what the panel thinks, even Stan if he can be found:
uk.sci.weather
When the fronts forecast in the British Meteorological Office SSPs...
> http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/weather/uk/surface_pressure.html
archived here:
> http://www.woksat.info/wwp7.html
...show parallel fronts, we get these things:
5.2 2012/02/06 11:40:20 9.845 123.041 15.0 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
5.8 2012/02/06 11:33:37 9.804 123.051 15.1 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
6.0 2012/02/06 10:10:24 9.874 123.070 15.0 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
5.6 2012/02/06 04:20:04 10.058 123.171 15.0 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
6.7 2012/02/06 03:49:17 9.964 123.246 20.0 NEGROS - CEBU
REGION, PHILIPPINES
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
Archived here:
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/epic/epic_global.php
And fits in nicely with the behaviour of significant Low Pressure
systems leaving the three major continents that catch Warm Pool
equatorial waves and direct them into Antarctic waters as shown here:
> http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=AEDT&area=SH&model=G
Sadly I can't find an archive for this chart. I suspect they will want
beer tokens for a DVD of them should a shmuck like me manage to get
through to them.
But archives are not required for someone who is peerless and not
interested in the kudos of tossers and other varieties of scientist.
All one has to do is follow the sequences and see for one's selves, a
not too difficult "difficulty" you appear to have difficulty with.
Too bad.
But, not my problem.
***
For all others not included in the meme "Skywise", do me a favour and
wait until the blocking high over Eaurasia has cleared before going to
town on the MetO charts, the Antarctic ones should hold good though.
Or not, as the case may be.
Have a nice day.
R. LaCasse
Feb 8, 2012, 1:06:23 AM2/8/12
to
On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:59:28 GMT, Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com>
wrote:
>R. LaCasse <wiz...@nostredamus.info> wrote in
>news:n1n1j7pil1tdok8fl...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:07:32 GMT, Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com>
>> (proly a clone of Bob LaCasse circa1966) wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> "Fantasia".......How much you wanna bet??????, say $10,000++++????
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>>hahahahahaha.... a sure sign of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
>>>
>>>Brian
>>
>> I said, How much you wanna bet??????, say $10,000++++????, and you
>> wanna side trail with an OT.
>
>You apparently are unaware of the meaning of my references, otherwise you
>would not consider them a 'side trail'.
>
Your References?????
^The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which the unskilled
suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much
higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability
of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.[1] In simpler terms, some
people just can't see their own incompetence^
You are describing YOURSELF.
>Go research the context of the Pauli quote and study what the Dunning-Kruger
>effect is. When you can demonstrate your comprehension of these subjects,
>then I will consider discussing the subject of your 'bet'.
>
Bullshit, I finished my Philosophy of Philosophy major UofT in
1966, and I still think it's bullshit!
Furthermore what does this (Dunning-Kruger) sidetrack have to do
with (BC earthquake) absolute jack, Jack.
Brian<<----schoolkid TROLL, who runs on evasive and embellished verbal
diarrhea.
Bob
--
Triad Productions-Fantalla~EZine~ParaNovel
National Association of Assault Research
(http://mypage.uniserve.com/~vampire-inter/htmlconc.html)
wrote:
>R. LaCasse <wiz...@nostredamus.info> wrote in
>news:n1n1j7pil1tdok8fl...@4ax.com:
>
>> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:07:32 GMT, Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com>
>> (proly a clone of Bob LaCasse circa1966) wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> "Fantasia".......How much you wanna bet??????, say $10,000++++????
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>
>>>hahahahahaha.... a sure sign of the Dunning-Kruger effect in action.
>>>
>>>Brian
>>
>> I said, How much you wanna bet??????, say $10,000++++????, and you
>> wanna side trail with an OT.
>
>You apparently are unaware of the meaning of my references, otherwise you
>would not consider them a 'side trail'.
>
^The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which the unskilled
suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much
higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability
of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.[1] In simpler terms, some
people just can't see their own incompetence^
You are describing YOURSELF.
>Go research the context of the Pauli quote and study what the Dunning-Kruger
>effect is. When you can demonstrate your comprehension of these subjects,
>then I will consider discussing the subject of your 'bet'.
>
1966, and I still think it's bullshit!
Furthermore what does this (Dunning-Kruger) sidetrack have to do
with (BC earthquake) absolute jack, Jack.
Brian<<----schoolkid TROLL, who runs on evasive and embellished verbal
diarrhea.
Bob
--
Triad Productions-Fantalla~EZine~ParaNovel
National Association of Assault Research
(http://mypage.uniserve.com/~vampire-inter/htmlconc.html)
Weatherlawyer
Feb 8, 2012, 12:51:45 PM2/8/12
to
On Feb 8, 6:06 am, R. LaCasse <The_Smoking_...@MJ12.info> wrote:
>
> Brian<<----schoolkid TROLL, who runs on evasive and embellished verbal
> diarrhea.
Actually he is quite accomplished. He first applied the dictum to me
>
> Brian<<----schoolkid TROLL, who runs on evasive and embellished verbal
> diarrhea.
last year. I supposed he must have got hung up on it.
His problem is that he is immersed in the teachings of an apostate who
was later seen as the patron saint of continental drift.
I believe Weggener was out in the cold most of his life because
geology demanded that the surface of the earth obeyed the laws of
motion liker everything else in physics.
Times change and people have reason to believe. Even when it doesn't
work.
Seismology was given two great gifts following WW2 (bathymetry
developed from SONAR and the seismometer network for monitoring
nuclear tests) yet still went down the dead end of two plates jumping.
In that 60 or so years not one earthquake has been predicted
accurately. (Something, incidentally, that can be done to a certain
extent with a duff computer and a broken window (for proof of which
you will have to search sci.geo.earthquakes and or uk.sci.weather.)
The meterological and seismology agency
> http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/
in Japan has spent a large fortune over the years studying both and
never made the obvious connection.
Muggins here can't even work out how to set up an FTP server to
collect the charts that so patently show the connection.
But still manages, after a fashion.
Still, yer pays yer munee and yer takes yer choises.
Each to his own.
oriel36
Feb 8, 2012, 1:11:39 PM2/8/12
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One of the lovelier indicators of the internal rotational dynamics
influencing the motion of the surface crust is the perspective from
the South pole where the trailing edges of South America mirror that
of the tip of Antarctica -
http://sciencewise.anu.edu.au/article_image_big/1030/drake%20passage.jpg
For no other reason than people genuinely feel comfortable with the
idea of introducing astronomical inputs into evolutionary geology and
especially the rotation of the fluid interior that there is no need to
appeal to anyone in particular.The guys working previously with
'convection cells' organized the internal viscosity of the Earth's
interior to suit that stationary Earth mechaniscm whereas all evidence
pouring out of every volcano and crustal boundary indicates a lower
viscosity needed to work with the spherical deviation of the planet
and evolutionary crustal dynamics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJtZxK92taQ&feature=related
Far from the lethargic viscosity used previously to support
'convection cells',differential rotation moving in parallel bands from
equatorial to polar latitudes rely on a viscosity similar to that seen
in the magnificent footage above and as differential rotation moves in
bands between equatorial and polar latitudes,the uneven rotational
gradient generates a graceful yet uneven shape that is called by the
misnomer 'equatorial bulge'.
When Copernicus first proposed the reasons for the motions of the
Earth,he did not fear Church censure,what he did fear was that people
who were less careful than he was would rush at the conclusions
without making some effort to put the conclusions in context of many
historical and technical perspectives* and this still is an issue
today as I see so many rush at differential rotation from all
angles,some go as far as to bring in galactic motion,others think of
differential rotation of the crust and things like that.Differential
rotation as it is properly understood is not just a new approach to
the creation of new crust and the destruction of old,it also alters to
a lower internal viscosity in linking up with the 26 mile spherical
deviation of the planet.In short,while the mechanism has been front
and center for 7 years and hasn't been pushed aggressively,what would
have been clear reasons why the mechanism has the highest probability
for crustal generation and destruction,a lot of extraneous views have
attached themselves to the mechanism that were never intended and
don't belong there.
So,the whole thing still needs a formal background to develop other
than sneaking it into Wikipedia .
* "...although they have extracted from them the apparent motions,
with numerical agreement, nevertheless . . . . They are just like
someone including in a picture hands, feet, head, and other limbs from
different places, well painted indeed, but not modeled from the same
body, and not in the least matching each other, so that a monster
would be produced from them rather than a man. Thus in the process of
their demonstrations, which they call their system, they are found
either to have missed out something essential, or to have brought in
something inappropriate and wholly irrelevant, which would not have
happened to them if they had followed proper principles." Copernicus
* "..they wanted the very beautiful thoughts attained by great men of
deep devotion not to be ridiculed by those who are reluctant to exert
themselves vigorously in any literary pursuit unless it is lucrative;
or if they are stimulated to the nonacquisitive study of philosophy by
the exhortation and example of others, yet because of their dullness
of mind they play the same part among philosophers as drones among
bees. When I weighed these considerations, the scorn which I had
reason to fear on account of the novelty and unconventionality of my
opinion almost induced me to abandon completely the work which I had
undertaken." Copernicus to Pope Paul III
influencing the motion of the surface crust is the perspective from
the South pole where the trailing edges of South America mirror that
of the tip of Antarctica -
http://sciencewise.anu.edu.au/article_image_big/1030/drake%20passage.jpg
For no other reason than people genuinely feel comfortable with the
idea of introducing astronomical inputs into evolutionary geology and
especially the rotation of the fluid interior that there is no need to
appeal to anyone in particular.The guys working previously with
'convection cells' organized the internal viscosity of the Earth's
interior to suit that stationary Earth mechaniscm whereas all evidence
pouring out of every volcano and crustal boundary indicates a lower
viscosity needed to work with the spherical deviation of the planet
and evolutionary crustal dynamics.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJtZxK92taQ&feature=related
Far from the lethargic viscosity used previously to support
'convection cells',differential rotation moving in parallel bands from
equatorial to polar latitudes rely on a viscosity similar to that seen
in the magnificent footage above and as differential rotation moves in
bands between equatorial and polar latitudes,the uneven rotational
gradient generates a graceful yet uneven shape that is called by the
misnomer 'equatorial bulge'.
When Copernicus first proposed the reasons for the motions of the
Earth,he did not fear Church censure,what he did fear was that people
who were less careful than he was would rush at the conclusions
without making some effort to put the conclusions in context of many
historical and technical perspectives* and this still is an issue
today as I see so many rush at differential rotation from all
angles,some go as far as to bring in galactic motion,others think of
differential rotation of the crust and things like that.Differential
rotation as it is properly understood is not just a new approach to
the creation of new crust and the destruction of old,it also alters to
a lower internal viscosity in linking up with the 26 mile spherical
deviation of the planet.In short,while the mechanism has been front
and center for 7 years and hasn't been pushed aggressively,what would
have been clear reasons why the mechanism has the highest probability
for crustal generation and destruction,a lot of extraneous views have
attached themselves to the mechanism that were never intended and
don't belong there.
So,the whole thing still needs a formal background to develop other
than sneaking it into Wikipedia .
* "...although they have extracted from them the apparent motions,
with numerical agreement, nevertheless . . . . They are just like
someone including in a picture hands, feet, head, and other limbs from
different places, well painted indeed, but not modeled from the same
body, and not in the least matching each other, so that a monster
would be produced from them rather than a man. Thus in the process of
their demonstrations, which they call their system, they are found
either to have missed out something essential, or to have brought in
something inappropriate and wholly irrelevant, which would not have
happened to them if they had followed proper principles." Copernicus
* "..they wanted the very beautiful thoughts attained by great men of
deep devotion not to be ridiculed by those who are reluctant to exert
themselves vigorously in any literary pursuit unless it is lucrative;
or if they are stimulated to the nonacquisitive study of philosophy by
the exhortation and example of others, yet because of their dullness
of mind they play the same part among philosophers as drones among
bees. When I weighed these considerations, the scorn which I had
reason to fear on account of the novelty and unconventionality of my
opinion almost induced me to abandon completely the work which I had
undertaken." Copernicus to Pope Paul III
Skywise
Feb 8, 2012, 1:47:08 PM2/8/12
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R. LaCasse <The_Smo...@MJ12.info> wrote in
news:ph34j7dqoo2psnnej...@4ax.com:
> Brian<<----schoolkid TROLL, who runs on evasive and embellished verbal
> diarrhea.
Typical ad hominem attack. The refuge of those who are incapable of
intellectual discourse.
BTW, quoting a wikipedia article does not demonstrate comprehension
of the subject.
We have nothing further to discuss. Have a nice day!
news:ph34j7dqoo2psnnej...@4ax.com:
> Brian<<----schoolkid TROLL, who runs on evasive and embellished verbal
> diarrhea.
intellectual discourse.
BTW, quoting a wikipedia article does not demonstrate comprehension
of the subject.
We have nothing further to discuss. Have a nice day!
kolldata
Feb 8, 2012, 10:42:01 PM2/8/12
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On Feb 7, 1:14 am, Bob <sci_...@health.info> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:08:42 -0800 (PST), kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com>
analysis due to the bird related field research I pursue at Imperial
Dam, Ca. USGS charts are read morning and night, saved into word then
correlated to morning bird vocalization recordings.
If there's a method for attaching a word document into sci.geo, I
could publish a days charting as an example for the uninitiated.
WL could try it linking weather reports to orange slices of the USGS
charts annotated with WL casue/effect.
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:08:42 -0800 (PST), kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 6, 7:46 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 5, 6:32 pm, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > FOLLOW Sea of Cortez quakes to Whitney/Olancha
>
> >> > then line of activity from Mammoth thru Utah, Yellowstone
>
> >> > with pressure against Japan from Asia
>
> >> > a line up thru the San Andreas, m.ajor slipping for 3 weeks ? ro rhe
> >> > Pinnacles
>
> >> > offfshore San Andreas
>
> >> > then BC
>
> >> > done cept for a line of force thru to Ohio
>
> >> > try a polar view
>
> >> pressure including the Phils off course....
>
> >> guess whose tuned in ?
>
> >>http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesView/sid/50633/-Hide quoted text -
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 6, 7:46 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 5, 6:32 pm, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > FOLLOW Sea of Cortez quakes to Whitney/Olancha
>
> >> > then line of activity from Mammoth thru Utah, Yellowstone
>
> >> > with pressure against Japan from Asia
>
> >> > a line up thru the San Andreas, m.ajor slipping for 3 weeks ? ro rhe
> >> > Pinnacles
>
> >> > offfshore San Andreas
>
> >> > then BC
>
> >> > done cept for a line of force thru to Ohio
>
> >> > try a polar view
>
> >> pressure including the Phils off course....
>
> >> guess whose tuned in ?
>
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >YEAH TRY THis page at 400% magnification for linkage
> >http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
> >then go to the CA/NV map for 'reality'
>
> Hell your getting scary already....
>
> Bob- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >YEAH TRY THis page at 400% magnification for linkage
> >http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
> >then go to the CA/NV map for 'reality'
>
> Hell your getting scary already....
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I am a beginner attempting an organized (increasingly so) following
> - Show quoted text -
analysis due to the bird related field research I pursue at Imperial
Dam, Ca. USGS charts are read morning and night, saved into word then
correlated to morning bird vocalization recordings.
If there's a method for attaching a word document into sci.geo, I
could publish a days charting as an example for the uninitiated.
WL could try it linking weather reports to orange slices of the USGS
charts annotated with WL casue/effect.
RL
Feb 8, 2012, 11:59:50 PM2/8/12
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Bob
R. LaCasse
Feb 9, 2012, 12:46:54 AM2/9/12
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:42:01 -0800 (PST), kolldata <data...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I am a beginner attempting an organized (increasingly so) following
>analysis due to the bird related field research I pursue at Imperial
>Dam, Ca. USGS charts are read morning and night, saved into word then
>correlated to morning bird vocalization recordings.
>
>If there's a method for attaching a word document into sci.geo, I
>could publish a days charting as an example for the uninitiated.
>
>WL could try it linking weather reports to orange slices of the USGS
>charts annotated with WL casue/effect.
These usenet sites don't usually accept attachments.......just:
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7/8bit
Yours is:
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some groups do, so your best bet with quoted printable with
US(ascii) may work inline as a decipherable scrambling , but you should
try the "binary type" "sci/geo" sites for a better inline or attachment
upload.
.......try a few test sites like:
alt.binaries.multimedia.babylon5
alt.binaries.multimedia.sci-fi
alt.binaries.sci-fi
alt.clearing.technology.sci.bio
alt.binaries.multimedia.sci-fiandfantasy
alt.binaries.pictures.fantasy-sci-fi
news:alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.test, and redirect (news:*.*) us there.
Bob
wrote:
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I am a beginner attempting an organized (increasingly so) following
>analysis due to the bird related field research I pursue at Imperial
>Dam, Ca. USGS charts are read morning and night, saved into word then
>correlated to morning bird vocalization recordings.
>
>If there's a method for attaching a word document into sci.geo, I
>could publish a days charting as an example for the uninitiated.
>
>WL could try it linking weather reports to orange slices of the USGS
>charts annotated with WL casue/effect.
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7/8bit
Yours is:
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Some groups do, so your best bet with quoted printable with
US(ascii) may work inline as a decipherable scrambling , but you should
try the "binary type" "sci/geo" sites for a better inline or attachment
upload.
.......try a few test sites like:
alt.binaries.multimedia.babylon5
alt.binaries.multimedia.sci-fi
alt.binaries.sci-fi
alt.clearing.technology.sci.bio
alt.binaries.multimedia.sci-fiandfantasy
alt.binaries.pictures.fantasy-sci-fi
news:alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.test, and redirect (news:*.*) us there.
Bob
kolldata
Feb 9, 2012, 10:19:49 AM2/9/12
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On Feb 7, 1:14 am, Bob <sci_...@health.info> wrote:
> On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:08:42 -0800 (PST), kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 6, 7:46 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 5, 6:32 pm, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > FOLLOW Sea of Cortez quakes to Whitney/Olancha
>
> >> > then line of activity from Mammoth thru Utah, Yellowstone
>
> >> > with pressure against Japan from Asia
>
> >> > a line up thru the San Andreas, m.ajor slipping for 3 weeks ? ro rhe
> >> > Pinnacles
>
> >> > offfshore San Andreas
>
> >> > then BC
>
> >> > done cept for a line of force thru to Ohio
>
> >> > try a polar view
>
> >> pressure including the Phils off course....
>
> >> guess whose tuned in ?
>
> >>http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesView/sid/50633/-Hide quoted text -
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Feb 6, 7:46 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 5, 6:32 pm, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> > FOLLOW Sea of Cortez quakes to Whitney/Olancha
>
> >> > then line of activity from Mammoth thru Utah, Yellowstone
>
> >> > with pressure against Japan from Asia
>
> >> > a line up thru the San Andreas, m.ajor slipping for 3 weeks ? ro rhe
> >> > Pinnacles
>
> >> > offfshore San Andreas
>
> >> > then BC
>
> >> > done cept for a line of force thru to Ohio
>
> >> > try a polar view
>
> >> pressure including the Phils off course....
>
> >> guess whose tuned in ?
>
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >YEAH TRY THis page at 400% magnification for linkage
> >http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
> >then go to the CA/NV map for 'reality'
>
> Hell your getting scary already....
>
> Bob- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >YEAH TRY THis page at 400% magnification for linkage
> >http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
> >then go to the CA/NV map for 'reality'
>
> Hell your getting scary already....
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
SCORE !
> - Show quoted text -
differentiate one screen event system from the other via animal
behavior
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/245_35.php
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqscanv/FaultMaps/115-33.html
EXCELLENT ! WE’RE OVER THE HILL 70 MILES BELOW BLYTHE
Erik©
Feb 9, 2012, 1:52:42 PM2/9/12
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kolldata wrote...
>
>
> I am a beginner attempting an organized (increasingly so) following
> analysis due to the bird related field research I pursue at Imperial
> Dam, Ca. USGS charts are read morning and night, saved into word then
> correlated to morning bird vocalization recordings.
>
> If there's a method for attaching a word document into sci.geo, I
> could publish a days charting as an example for the uninitiated.
>
> WL could try it linking weather reports to orange slices of the USGS
> charts annotated with WL casue/effect.
Upload the document to www.scribd.com (free) and link to it on usenet.
>
> I am a beginner attempting an organized (increasingly so) following
> analysis due to the bird related field research I pursue at Imperial
> Dam, Ca. USGS charts are read morning and night, saved into word then
> correlated to morning bird vocalization recordings.
>
> If there's a method for attaching a word document into sci.geo, I
> could publish a days charting as an example for the uninitiated.
>
> WL could try it linking weather reports to orange slices of the USGS
> charts annotated with WL casue/effect.
Weatherlawyer
Feb 9, 2012, 2:03:31 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 9, 5:46 am, R. LaCasse <wiz...@french-connection.info> wrote:
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:42:01 -0800 (PST), kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com>
He'd be better with a blog and post links exemplar gratis.:
How to forecast earthquakes and tropical storms with a broken window
and a dying computer:
> http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2011/09/23/diary-of-an-optimist-2
> On Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:42:01 -0800 (PST), kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com>
How to forecast earthquakes and tropical storms with a broken window
and a dying computer:
> http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/blog/2011/09/23/diary-of-an-optimist-2
Weatherlawyer
Feb 9, 2012, 2:06:00 PM2/9/12
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It's a catch 22 situation.
oriel36
Feb 9, 2012, 3:17:24 PM2/9/12
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There is a tsunami of drudgery surrounding plate tectonics as
lethargic as the slow moving mantle that is supposed to act as
'convection cells'.
Wake up,the true viscosity of the interior is seen pouring out of
every volcano and crustal boundary and these rotating rivers that flow
in bands around the globe beneath our feet are creating
volcanoes,creating new crust and destroying the old -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAxj2ob_JoU&feature=related
Adding planetary dynamics to evolutionary geology is not some dry
theory for academics who can't see what is in front of them least it
disturb what is in their imagination,it is for the adventurous
geologist like the guy who stands at the edge of a volcano and watches
the maelstrom of the fluid interior beneath him.This is the geology of
the 21st century and the men adventurous enough to match it.
lethargic as the slow moving mantle that is supposed to act as
'convection cells'.
Wake up,the true viscosity of the interior is seen pouring out of
every volcano and crustal boundary and these rotating rivers that flow
in bands around the globe beneath our feet are creating
volcanoes,creating new crust and destroying the old -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAxj2ob_JoU&feature=related
Adding planetary dynamics to evolutionary geology is not some dry
theory for academics who can't see what is in front of them least it
disturb what is in their imagination,it is for the adventurous
geologist like the guy who stands at the edge of a volcano and watches
the maelstrom of the fluid interior beneath him.This is the geology of
the 21st century and the men adventurous enough to match it.
kolldata
Feb 9, 2012, 10:12:13 PM2/9/12
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On Feb 9, 8:19 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 1:14 am, Bob <sci_...@health.info> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:08:42 -0800 (PST), kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Feb 6, 7:46 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On Feb 5, 6:32 pm, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > FOLLOW Sea of Cortez quakes to Whitney/Olancha
>
> > >> > then line of activity from Mammoth thru Utah, Yellowstone
>
> > >> > with pressure against Japan from Asia
>
> > >> > a line up thru the San Andreas, m.ajor slipping for 3 weeks ? ro rhe
> > >> > Pinnacles
>
> > >> > offfshore San Andreas
>
> > >> > then BC
>
> > >> > done cept for a line of force thru to Ohio
>
> > >> > try a polar view
>
> > >> pressure including the Phils off course....
>
> > >> guess whose tuned in ?
>
> > >>http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesView/sid/50633/-Hidequoted text -
> On Feb 7, 1:14 am, Bob <sci_...@health.info> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 6 Feb 2012 07:08:42 -0800 (PST), kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > >On Feb 6, 7:46 am, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> On Feb 5, 6:32 pm, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > >> > FOLLOW Sea of Cortez quakes to Whitney/Olancha
>
> > >> > then line of activity from Mammoth thru Utah, Yellowstone
>
> > >> > with pressure against Japan from Asia
>
> > >> > a line up thru the San Andreas, m.ajor slipping for 3 weeks ? ro rhe
> > >> > Pinnacles
>
> > >> > offfshore San Andreas
>
> > >> > then BC
>
> > >> > done cept for a line of force thru to Ohio
>
> > >> > try a polar view
>
> > >> pressure including the Phils off course....
>
> > >> guess whose tuned in ?
>
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >YEAH TRY THis page at 400% magnification for linkage
> > >http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
> > >then go to the CA/NV map for 'reality'
>
> > Hell your getting scary already....
>
> > Bob- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> SCORE !
>
> differentiate one screen event system from the other via animal
> behavior
>
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/245_35.php
>
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqscanv/FaultMaps/115-33...
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > >YEAH TRY THis page at 400% magnification for linkage
> > >http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
> > >then go to the CA/NV map for 'reality'
>
> > Hell your getting scary already....
>
> > Bob- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> SCORE !
>
> differentiate one screen event system from the other via animal
> behavior
>
> http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/245_35.php
>
>
> EXCELLENT ! WE’RE OVER THE HILL 70 MILES BELOW BLYTHE- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
from the Obsdian Butte quakes, US 95 near Dome Valley Road and Yuma
> - Show quoted text -
main street rippled., poss a long white line crack in Main.
R. LaCasse
Feb 10, 2012, 1:28:18 AM2/10/12
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there, I assumed he liked the Usenet or Something....
Bob
Weatherlawyer
Feb 10, 2012, 7:42:01 AM2/10/12
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On Feb 10, 6:28 am, R. LaCasse <wiz...@nostredamus.info> wrote:
>
> Sure, there are a lot of free or inexpensive website hosters out
> there, I assumed he liked the Usenet or Something....
It's hard to tell, he speaks so little English.
>
> Sure, there are a lot of free or inexpensive website hosters out
> there, I assumed he liked the Usenet or Something....
kolldata
Feb 10, 2012, 10:02:58 AM2/10/12
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On Feb 4, 8:53 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>
> --
> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home page)http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel & Musichttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
at the Colorado delta and one off Ferndale-Mendocino Head.
> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>
> --
> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home page)http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel & Musichttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
the now USGS map shows a possible repeat pattern in Asia with a quake
at the Colorado delta and one off Ferndale-Mendocino Head.
kolldata
Feb 11, 2012, 10:07:02 AM2/11/12
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remeber the comics puzzles asking for an ID of the 37 animals hidden
in Mr. Smythes Hedge ?
what's different in the second Hedge ?
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
of course you must remeber the map from the last cycle. Or copy it...
in Mr. Smythes Hedge ?
what's different in the second Hedge ?
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
of course you must remeber the map from the last cycle. Or copy it...
Weatherlawyer
Feb 11, 2012, 12:36:33 PM2/11/12
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On Feb 11, 3:07 pm, kolldata <datak...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> remeber the comics puzzles asking for an ID of the 37 animals hidden
> in Mr. Smythes Hedge ?
no.
> remeber the comics puzzles asking for an ID of the 37 animals hidden
> in Mr. Smythes Hedge ?
Have you tried viewing the bore and after views on your monitor?
kolldata
Feb 11, 2012, 1:12:54 PM2/11/12
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USGS mapping offersquake viewing levels with eg Global>NA>zoom your
area of interest with an EQ list for the zoomed area.
Or use USA map then zoom to, or CA/NV and same.
Also use 400% zoom on Global... USA....
Global>NA>zoom yields a west coast overview not available in Ca/NV
where enlarge with a tap the east side Salton Sea brings my area into
focus.
area of interest with an EQ list for the zoomed area.
Or use USA map then zoom to, or CA/NV and same.
Also use 400% zoom on Global... USA....
Global>NA>zoom yields a west coast overview not available in Ca/NV
where enlarge with a tap the east side Salton Sea brings my area into
focus.
kolldata
Feb 11, 2012, 10:30:51 PM2/11/12
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ahhhhh a 3.0 at Obsidian Butte. Great bird response. So good the mob
reacted with pyrethrin spray in the AMs and following me in the spray
mobile. The Yuma Boys and Cal Bro, All American Goons see Mr.
Majestik.
Road at N32.78468 W114.38203 now has a road scallop, more ripples and
2-3 whoppeees. Interestin g spot. End of Laguna Mts seperating this
area from the Butte/Salton going down into the deep bed of anceint
Colorado/Gila in a narrow pass before the Gila Mtns.
I was awake but missed the rolling.
reacted with pyrethrin spray in the AMs and following me in the spray
mobile. The Yuma Boys and Cal Bro, All American Goons see Mr.
Majestik.
Road at N32.78468 W114.38203 now has a road scallop, more ripples and
2-3 whoppeees. Interestin g spot. End of Laguna Mts seperating this
area from the Butte/Salton going down into the deep bed of anceint
Colorado/Gila in a narrow pass before the Gila Mtns.
I was awake but missed the rolling.
kolldata
Feb 12, 2012, 10:23:52 AM2/12/12
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now zoooom to 400% on this
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
the Butte quakes moved west as the plate went north giving a wave from
Menocino Head across to Utah and from here thru the transverse faukt
area....red squares if urup.
one in Honshu who passed last cycle....so itsa comin urway
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
the Butte quakes moved west as the plate went north giving a wave from
Menocino Head across to Utah and from here thru the transverse faukt
area....red squares if urup.
one in Honshu who passed last cycle....so itsa comin urway
brad
Feb 12, 2012, 10:46:01 AM2/12/12
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On Feb 9, 3:17 pm, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wake up,the true viscosity of the interior is seen pouring out of
> every volcano and crustal boundary and these rotating rivers that flow
> in bands around the globe
>
>
>
>
> Wake up,the true viscosity of the interior is seen pouring out of
> every volcano and crustal boundary and these rotating rivers that flow
> in bands around the globe
>
>
>
>it is for the adventurous
> geologist like the guy who stands at the edge of a volcano and watches
> the maelstrom of the fluid interior beneath him.
Indiana Oriel?
> geologist like the guy who stands at the edge of a volcano and watches
> the maelstrom of the fluid interior beneath him.
>This is the geology of
> the 21st century and the men adventurous enough to match it.
150 yr old theory. You really must update your education.
Brad
oriel36
Feb 12, 2012, 1:23:42 PM2/12/12
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On Jan 6 2008, 4:00 pm, brad <lbjohnson1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 1:39 pm,oriel36<kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is unfortunate that the balance has shifted and plate tectonics may
> > go into supporting a 'convection cell' conclusion whereas there is
> > enough in outlines for plate tectonics to stand on its own without
> > the need to speculate on an internal mechanism or rather allow enough
> > data for rotating celestial objects to approach the internal mechanism
> > with greater certainty.
>
> > Don't you ever dare reply to my threads for a long,long while.
>
> if the planets' rotation were the mechanism behind continental drift
> it would imply that the plates motion lagged behind the rotation of
> the earth , but the mass of the plates is almost insignificant in
> relation to the rest of the planet. ( ave D = 5.5 even without the
> crust) that implies some mechanism applying a force from outside the
> surface. is the moon adequate ? the moon certainly doesn't hurt but
> the earth is large enough that its own gravity is sufficient to supply
> its internal heat sans moon. heat implies convection and that
> convection is going to do work. we see that work as PT.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.geology/msg/67bb64af91cf81c2
You wrote that in 2008 which was 3 years after the details of rotation
entered the discussion of plate tectonics and today,judging by
Wikipedia,rotation is taking center stage as 'convection cells' start
to fade as a mechanism.Despite the poor attribution,sooner or later
the issue of rotation is going to run into the 26 mile spherical
deviation of the planet and it makes sense to combine the mechanism
for this uneven shape of the planet with the mechanism for the
creation and destruction of crust using an uneven rotational gradient
between equator and poles.In short,it works or at least has the
highest probability of success.
I was fair with you in 2008 in downplaying the mechanism even as I was
aware of the hostility yet apparently somebody got an education and
acted on it and so it goes on.
> On Jan 4, 1:39 pm,oriel36<kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is unfortunate that the balance has shifted and plate tectonics may
> > go into supporting a 'convection cell' conclusion whereas there is
> > enough in outlines for plate tectonics to stand on its own without
> > the need to speculate on an internal mechanism or rather allow enough
> > data for rotating celestial objects to approach the internal mechanism
> > with greater certainty.
>
> > Don't you ever dare reply to my threads for a long,long while.
>
> if the planets' rotation were the mechanism behind continental drift
> it would imply that the plates motion lagged behind the rotation of
> the earth , but the mass of the plates is almost insignificant in
> relation to the rest of the planet. ( ave D = 5.5 even without the
> crust) that implies some mechanism applying a force from outside the
> surface. is the moon adequate ? the moon certainly doesn't hurt but
> the earth is large enough that its own gravity is sufficient to supply
> its internal heat sans moon. heat implies convection and that
> convection is going to do work. we see that work as PT.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.geo.geology/msg/67bb64af91cf81c2
You wrote that in 2008 which was 3 years after the details of rotation
entered the discussion of plate tectonics and today,judging by
Wikipedia,rotation is taking center stage as 'convection cells' start
to fade as a mechanism.Despite the poor attribution,sooner or later
the issue of rotation is going to run into the 26 mile spherical
deviation of the planet and it makes sense to combine the mechanism
for this uneven shape of the planet with the mechanism for the
creation and destruction of crust using an uneven rotational gradient
between equator and poles.In short,it works or at least has the
highest probability of success.
I was fair with you in 2008 in downplaying the mechanism even as I was
aware of the hostility yet apparently somebody got an education and
acted on it and so it goes on.
kolldata
Feb 13, 2012, 10:41:36 AM2/13/12
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The Geysers ! how's the road ?
kolldata
Feb 13, 2012, 10:44:28 PM2/13/12
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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/
YOU SAW pressure at either end of west coast with a broad front of
quakes in Asia produced a Missouri quake, now even pressure around
Pacific, the transverse fault gap closes, the quake front goes
north....
does it support a backwave thru solid dry ground ?
This off course personal BS but as a predicitve tool, it works. Then
blend in learned reality from Sanskrit Geology
YOU SAW pressure at either end of west coast with a broad front of
quakes in Asia produced a Missouri quake, now even pressure around
Pacific, the transverse fault gap closes, the quake front goes
north....
does it support a backwave thru solid dry ground ?
This off course personal BS but as a predicitve tool, it works. Then
blend in learned reality from Sanskrit Geology
kolldata
Feb 14, 2012, 10:42:26 AM2/14/12
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On Feb 4, 8:53 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>
> --
> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home page)http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel & Musichttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
On Feb 4, 8:53 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>
> --
> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home page)http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel & Musichttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
San Andreas slipped in the last cycle, and again now after the
> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>
> --
> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home page)http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel & Musichttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
On Feb 4, 8:53 pm, David Dalton <dal...@nfld.com> wrote:
> Could the recent magnitude 5.7 earthquake off the BC coast
> be a foreshock to a larger earthquake?
>
> --
> David Dalton dal...@nfld.com http://www.nfld.com/~dalton(home page)http://www.nfld.com/~dalton/nf.htmlNewfoundland&Labrador Travel & Musichttp://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.htmlSalmon on the Thorns (mystic page)
> "Here I go again...back into the flame" (Sarah McLachlan)
Obsidian Butte/Niland quakes wnet across the valley to Borrego
Springs.
Map at 8:35AM http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
kolldata
Feb 14, 2012, 10:41:47 AM2/14/12
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kolldata
Feb 14, 2012, 10:46:34 AM2/14/12
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8:45AM
zooooom to 400%
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US10/27.37.-120.-110.php
zooooom to 400%
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US10/27.37.-120.-110.php
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