Look you lot, ..
don findlay
Plate Tectonics stuff is that Earth expansion is a respectable
construct of *GEOLOGY* - i.e., the sum total of investigations of
geologists world-wide for over a century, studying at first hand
(i.e., boots on the ground for generations) the rocks of the surface
of the Earth, ..making factual maps and the like that have stood the
test of time.
Plate Tectonics on the other hand is an artifact of geophysicists,
dreaming up weird explanations for what happens at the point of a
shaking pen, primarily in order to carve out career paths for
themselves. There are absolutely *NO* geological parameters taken
into account in this dreamworld, ..**Nothing whatsoever** of the
Earth's surface - only its (hypothetical) interior, as imagined by the
point of the said shaking pen.
That's it. That's all, ...all that needs to be said for this
argument. It is the reason why for every explanation of global
geology that Plate Tectonics offers, it also offers an explanation
that is exactly the opposite:-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/subcrux.html
..and leaves it to you to dream what (exactly) it means between the
lines of these extremes. Nothing else matters provided it affords
publication and the furtherment of careers. It just doesn't
understand, ..doesn't want to take into account geological reality
(This 'power-of-opposites' by the way is a peculiarly American
thing, .. exemplifed, codified and ratified - by the bloke they
elected to be their leader.) It's in the matriarchal tradition.
(Keep 'em guessing. Where else could Abuse ("American as apple-pie")
dream up a pejorative like 'cup-cake'? )
(Jeez, ..they're a funny lot... )
Sam Wormley
> ... What you have to understand about this Earth Expansion versus
> Plate Tectonics stuff is that Earth expansion is a respectable
> construct of *GEOLOGY*
So how come there is no data confirming the expansion (increase
in the surface area) of the earth?
don findlay
Sam Wormley wrote:
There is. It's geological:-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ee/
..which is why geophysicists (who forget the geo comes before the
physics) can't see it.
brad
> ... What you have to understand about this Earth Expansion versus
> Plate Tectonics stuff is that Earth expansion is a respectable
> construct of *GEOLOGY* - i.e., the sum total of investigations of
> geologists world-wide for over a century, studying at first hand
> (i.e., boots on the ground for generations) the rocks of the surface
> of the Earth, ..making factual maps and the like that have stood the
> test of time.
You need to get out more and see all the Geologists doing field work.
> Plate Tectonics on the other hand is an artifact of geophysicists,
LIke F J Vine and J T Wilson or D C Krause ?
> dreaming up weird explanations for what happens at the point of a
> shaking pen, primarily in order to carve out career paths for
> themselves. There are absolutely *NO* geological parameters taken
> into account in this dreamworld, ..**Nothing whatsoever** of the
> Earth's surface - only its (hypothetical) interior, as imagined by the
> point of the said shaking pen.
Says one who only studied morphology. You need to expand the scope of
your
studies . Somewhere along the way you pigeonholed yourself and now
you can no longer learn.
>
> That's it. That's all, ...all that needs to be said for this
> argument. It is the reason why for every explanation of global
> geology that Plate Tectonics offers, it also offers an explanation
> that is exactly the opposite:-http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/subcrux.html
Don't use your own logic to define an argument. Introduce something
new.
> ..and leaves it to you to dream what (exactly) it means between the
> lines of these extremes. Nothing else matters provided it affords
> publication and the furtherment of careers. It just doesn't
> understand, ..doesn't want to take into account geological reality
> (This 'power-of-opposites' by the way is a peculiarly American
> thing, .. exemplifed, codified and ratified - by the bloke they
> elected to be their leader.) It's in the matriarchal tradition.
> (Keep 'em guessing. Where else could Abuse ("American as apple-pie")
> dream up a pejorative like 'cup-cake'? )
>
> (Jeez, ..they're a funny lot... )
How come Tectonic events involve compression ?
As far as America is concerned , Australia incubated Rupert Murdoch.
You
can come get him anytime.
Brad
don findlay
brad wrote:
> On Oct 13, 10:00�am, don findlay <d...@tower.net.au> wrote:
> > ... What you have to understand about this Earth Expansion versus
> > Plate Tectonics stuff is that Earth expansion is a respectable
> > construct of *GEOLOGY* - i.e., the sum total of investigations of
> > geologists world-wide for over a century, studying at first hand
> > (i.e., boots on the ground for generations) the rocks of the surface
> > of the Earth, ..making factual maps and the like that have stood the
> > test of time.
>
> You need to get out more and see all the Geologists doing field work.
Since the advent of computers I agree this has changed somewhat. The
century I'm talking about is the one past, ..not the one future.
>
> > Plate Tectonics on the other hand is an artifact of geophysicists,
>
>
> LIke F J Vine and J T Wilson or D C Krause ?
Yes.
> > dreaming up weird explanations for what happens at the point of a
> > shaking pen, primarily in order to carve out career paths for
> > themselves. �There are absolutely *NO* geological parameters taken
> > into account in this dreamworld, ..**Nothing whatsoever** of the
> > Earth's surface - only its (hypothetical) interior, as imagined by the
> > point of the said shaking pen.
>
> Says one who only studied morphology. You need to expand the scope of
> your
> studies . Somewhere along the way you pigeonholed yourself and now
> you can no longer learn.
So what aspects of geology does Plate Tectonics take into account?
Subduction zones?
> >
> > That's it. �That's all, ...all that needs to be said for this
> > argument. �It is the reason why for every explanation of global
> > geology that Plate Tectonics offers, it also offers an explanation
> > that is exactly the opposite:-http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/subcrux.html
>
>
> Don't use your own logic to define an argument. Introduce something
> new.
It is new.
> > ..and leaves it to you to dream what (exactly) �it means between the
> > lines of these extremes. �Nothing else matters provided it affords
> > publication and the furtherment of careers. �It just doesn't
> > understand, ..doesn't want to take into account geological reality
>
>
>
> > (This 'power-of-opposites' by the way is a peculiarly American
> > thing, .. exemplifed, codified and ratified - by the bloke they
> > elected to be their leader.) �It's in the matriarchal tradition.
> > (Keep 'em guessing. �Where else could Abuse ("American as apple-pie")
> > dream up a pejorative like 'cup-cake'? )
> >
> > (Jeez, ..they're a funny lot... )
>
> How come Tectonic events involve compression ?
Gravity has the biggest compressional element of all. Sometimes (most
times) gradients conspire to ensure this has a 'sideways' element.
(read the book) (*/don/ )
>
> As far as America is concerned , Australia incubated Rupert Murdoch.
He's got a very nice Chinese Wife, ..if that makes a difference.
> You
> can come get him anytime.
>
> Brad
What's his wife like?
Uncle Al
>
> ... What you have to understand about this Earth Expansion versus
> Plate Tectonics stuff is that Earth expansion is a respectable
> construct of *GEOLOGY*
You misspelled *STOOPIDITY*
Why not Venus, moon, and Mars expansion, idiot?
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
don findlay
Uncle Al wrote:
> don findlay wrote:
> >
> > ... What you have to understand about this Earth Expansion versus
> > Plate Tectonics stuff is that Earth expansion is a respectable
> > construct of *GEOLOGY*
> [snip crap]
>
> You misspelled *STOOPIDITY*
>
> Why not Venus, moon, and Mars expansion, idiot?
Yeah, ..why not?
( But somehow, ..with spelling like yours, ... Hey, ..does 'Moon' not
get a capital bum in your world, arsehole?) (You stupid prick... Get
back under your log.)
Spaceman
Poor Sam,
He forgets we almost always have to dig down to find the older.
Archeologists know this, are you saying geophsyicists don't?
:)
Sam Wormley
Humans can't see what is not there... How come there is no
data supporting your claim?
don findlay
Sam Wormley wrote:
"I'm a servant of fate in this garden of truth
A humble recruit of the taffeta booth
Where all things are known but few are revealed
Where sins are forgotten and sickness is healed
For five dollars the flower is free... "
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/ee/
Spaceman
Poor Sam,
He says there is no data, but every single layer of the Earth proves
him wrong.
:)
brad
Geochemistry is a very important aspect. You know that trace elements
and
isotopes can reveal the lineage of lavas.
> > > That's it. That's all, ...all that needs to be said for this
> > > argument. It is the reason why for every explanation of global
> > > geology that Plate Tectonics offers, it also offers an explanation
> > > that is exactly the opposite:-http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/subcrux.html
>
> > Don't use your own logic to define an argument. Introduce something
> > new.
>
> It is new.
No it isn't . expansion and/or contraction to account for tectonics
have been speculated as "side " theories since mid 19th century.
> > > ..and leaves it to you to dream what (exactly) it means between the
> > > lines of these extremes. Nothing else matters provided it affords
> > > publication and the furtherment of careers. It just doesn't
> > > understand, ..doesn't want to take into account geological reality
>
> > > (This 'power-of-opposites' by the way is a peculiarly American
> > > thing, .. exemplifed, codified and ratified - by the bloke they
> > > elected to be their leader.) It's in the matriarchal tradition.
> > > (Keep 'em guessing. Where else could Abuse ("American as apple-pie")
> > > dream up a pejorative like 'cup-cake'? )
>
> > > (Jeez, ..they're a funny lot... )
>
> > How come Tectonic events involve compression ?
>
> Gravity has the biggest compressional element of all. Sometimes (most
> times) gradients conspire to ensure this has a 'sideways' element.
> (read the book) (*/don/ )
Only in so far as erosion is concerned.
And if gravity was the dominent force in the earth the planet would
have long ago
stratified according to the periodic table . EM is the dominent force
by many orders
of magnitude.
> > As far as America is concerned , Australia incubated Rupert Murdoch.
>
> He's got a very nice Chinese Wife, ..if that makes a difference.
Poor woman probably didn't speak English so didn't
realize the ceremony was marriage until it was too late !
Brad
jptu...@neuf.fr
> don findlay wrote:
>
> > ... What you have to understand about this Earth Expansion versus
> > Plate Tectonics stuff is that Earth expansion is a respectable
> > construct of *GEOLOGY*
>
> [snip crap]
>
> You misspelled *STOOPIDITY*
>
> Why not Venus, moon, and Mars expansion, idiot?
>
> --
> (Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2
Congratulations Dear Uncle Al ...you are indeed spot on and quite in
line with the True Geology. .
In True Geology EE is a special case of Planetary Expansion indeed.
We need support from people like, dear Uncle, to impose a correct
view of True Geology to the world.
By the way Dr Don Findlay is by far the brightest and most aware
Geological Mind of the Southern Hemisphere, and I would appreciate
your apologies for your misled comment to that Great Gentleman.
Thanks T
With kind regards
jpturcaud
brad
wrote:
Poor Spaceman , he doesn't realize intrusives
can be younger than what lies above them.Your logic
lacks substance and amounts to only attempted
character assasination .
Brad
brad
>
> - Show quoted text -
Show us a" layer ".
Brad
jptu...@neuf.fr
and this is the official view. In True Geology however only One field
of force with all its different aspect. Have I as yet told you
definitions of Magnetic, Electrical, Nuclear & Gravitational fields
according to the True Geology ?
Something to learn here for you
jpturcaud
Spaceman
Poor brad,
He does not realize that even if younger stuff is found below
older stuff it is not proof of anything except the younger stuff
was buried naturally or even by human.
Poor Brad must think that for every ton of asteroid debris
that hits the Earth, another ton must have been thrown
away.
Poor Brad must not be able to grasp how the Earth grew to
the size it is now at all.
LOL
Spaceman
The crust, and of course it has way more than 1 layer
in it.
But of course, you do not wish to think about such a fact.
How did the Earth grow to the size it is now if it can not grow
in size?
How can you ignore the word "growth" completely.
brad
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well shoot, now I'm forced to lay my refrigerator on its back so
my magnets will stay put. Thanks a lot for ruining my delusion.
And how do I stack beer and cheese if I can't use the shelves ?
Brad
brad
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Idiot !
Brad
brad
wrote:
>
> - Show quoted text -
Ooo, science talk ... " way more... "..
I think I'm feeling faint in the presence of such an intellect.
Can I get you anything ? A book ? A degree ?
AAAA+++++
Be still... my beating heart.
Brad
Spaceman
I am glad you call yourself an idiot so I don't have to.
:)
Spaceman
Brad must be one of those "rubber ruler" types.
The kind of person that allows his brain to be filled with
whatever he comes across first and refuses to ever allow the
thought processes needed to replace anything that could be wrong.
:)
brad
You sure insult easily . Think of my predicament I have to look in a
mirror
every day; you only need to go online occasionally .
Brad
don findlay
brad wrote:
You take your security too seriously. Relax Brad. You'll still be
there, ..even if you crack the mirror.
>
> Brad
Sam Wormley
don findlay
Sam Wormley wrote:
(Not another goat loose in the paddock, surely!) How big does an
ocean floor have to be before you can see it?)
Sam Wormley
You made a claim. You can't back it up with any data. I'm simply
asking that you cite data that the area of the earth's surface is
increasing and the result is you make aspersions about me.
If the phenomenon that you claim is so, cite observational data.
We already know about plate tectonics and sea floor spreading... but
that is no reason to claim the earth is expanding. Get a life Findley!
Better yet do some self education.
don findlay
Sam Wormley wrote:
Look Sam (me ole' mate), .. (I'll overlook your aspertive remarks
about my education and my life, and desist from calling you a goat
again) It's really very simple. It's where Plate Tectonics came
in, ..with recognising the Atlantic fits meant Atlantic spreading,
followed up by Hess with his ridges, then the striping and so on.
Only we're decades ahead now with our information. But the same
parameters that went towards clinching the expanding part of Plate
Tectonics in the Atlantic, Indian, and Southern Oceans (the
*expanding*/ getting bigger part mark you) also apply to the closure
of the Pacific. The entire picture of global tectonics (*Including*
that of the continents - Earth expansion doesn't put a paper bag over
them and call them jigsaw pieces, it *includes* their geology) goes
towards retrofitting the Pacific *in the same way* and *in the same
time frame*.
Moreover the *logic* of subduction is flawed:-
http://users.indigo.net.au/don/nonsense/subfar.html
So, there's no way out. The Continents fit back together again (on a
smaller Earth) and subduction is flawed. It's that simple.
sir.jp...@neuf.fr
> brad wrote:
> > You sure insult easily . Think of my predicament I have to look in a
> > mirror
> > every day; you only need to go online occasionally .
>
> You take your security too seriously. Relax Brad. You'll still be
> there, ..even if you crack the mirror.
>
>
>
> > Brad
Grin ! :-)
sir.jeanpa...@neuf.fr
>
> So, there's no way out. The Continents fit back together again (on a
> smaller Earth) and subduction is flawed. It's that simple.
Elementary Dr Findlay, but in that case some apologies are required
from Wormleyss, Georges & Stuart ... t