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Brian

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Jan 5, 2012, 4:49:12 AM1/5/12
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For anyone out here who is interested, the New Zealand city of Christchurch
is still shaking with earthquakes since the September earthquake back in
2010. Christchurch recently got a 6.0 mag earthquake and there areas many
as 55 aftershocks in one day.

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Regards Brian

Skywise

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Jan 5, 2012, 5:01:34 PM1/5/12
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Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote in news:1744298170347449562.845994bclark-
es.c...@free.teranews.com:
Where are you relative to Christchurch?

And if close, can you feel many of the aftershocks yourself?

Brian
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kolldata

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Jan 5, 2012, 10:32:16 PM1/5/12
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good time to plant bamboo

Brian

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Jan 6, 2012, 8:26:35 AM1/6/12
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Skywise <in...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote in news:1744298170347449562.845994bclark-
> es.c...@free.teranews.com:
>
>> For anyone out here who is interested, the New Zealand city of Christchurch
>> is still shaking with earthquakes since the September earthquake back in
>> 2010. Christchurch recently got a 6.0 mag earthquake and there areas many
>> as 55 aftershocks in one day.
>
> Where are you relative to Christchurch?
>
> And if close, can you feel many of the aftershocks yourself?
>
> Brian

i live in the east part of Chrimstchurch.
I feel the ones that are of mag 4.0 or more.
Just had a 5.2 quake early Saturday morning (7th Jan) and everything in the
house was moving.
A earthquake of mag 6 or more is terrifying for most people.
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kolldata

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Jan 8, 2012, 9:50:41 PM1/8/12
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On Jan 6, 6:26 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
> Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> > Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote in news:1744298170347449562.845994bclark-
> > es.co...@free.teranews.com:
>
> >> For anyone out here who is interested, the New Zealand city of Christchurch
> >> is still shaking with earthquakes since the September earthquake back in
> >> 2010. Christchurch recently got a 6.0 mag earthquake and there areas many
> >> as 55 aftershocks in one day.
>
> > Where are you relative to Christchurch?
>
> > And if close, can you feel many of the aftershocks yourself?
>
> > Brian
>
> i live in the east part of Chrimstchurch.
> I feel the ones that are of mag 4.0 or more.
> Just had a 5.2 quake early Saturday morning (7th Jan) and everything in the
> house was moving.
> A earthquake of mag 6 or more is terrifying for most people.
> --
> Regards Brian

what's life like compared to before the quake ? Food supply, work,
entertainment.....? problems in daily life ?

Brian

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Jan 9, 2012, 6:58:03 AM1/9/12
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The business area in the centre of the city is closed and the public can't
enter this area. It's called a red zone. Many churches were destroyed or
became unsafe. Many entertainment places with a stage became unsafe to the
public. A lot of old buildings had to be demolished so the historic part of
the city died.
During te February earthquake the water was not suitable for drinking and
the power was off in many parts of Christchurch.
Houses have become not suitable to live in as there is a problem with the
land and people will have to move.
At the moment there is not a problem with food and if food supply places
get hit by a quake they are not closed for long.
Many people found themselves without a job as the business centre was
closed and a lot of the business buildings were demolished due to being
unsafe.
Many entertainment buildings have been closed for a long time and some need
to be demolished.
Stress is the main problem with many in Christchurch. You never get use to
earthquakes and don't know when the next one will strike. Some have moved
out of Christchurch to live elsewhere.
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Regards Brian

kolldata

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Jan 9, 2012, 1:41:29 PM1/9/12
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On Jan 9, 4:58 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
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take a guess at population lost percentage ?

industrial activities such as warehousing, repair, fabrication were
under one story buildings and go on as before ?

are a lot of city people well connected to the countryside or fishing
thru relatives ?

from way off here, a perspective of NZ people is of hardy frontier
people equipped for surviving.

Brian

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Jan 10, 2012, 8:02:00 AM1/10/12
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Dd you mean lost in population due to death or due to people moving out of
Christchurch?

The countryside is full of farms but they might open up some part of the
country near Christchurch to build houses for people who have lost their
home.

Most are still keen on staying in Christchurch. If the earthquakes stay
below mag 6.0 then there should be no major problem.

Keeping people out of he red zone has saved life's.

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Regards Brian

kolldata

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Jan 10, 2012, 8:36:15 AM1/10/12
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people moving out...what are Christchurchians called by other
NZlanders ?

is the suicide rate up ?

here's Haiti:

http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch?query=haiti&submit.x=5&submit.y=19

we were looking at a new volcanic vent off the Canaries. Information
here in SGE. There's a mountain fault in the Canaries facing our way.
If it slipped into the sea, we would get a huge tsunami.

Brian

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Jan 10, 2012, 8:34:10 PM1/10/12
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> we were looking at a new volcanic vent off the Canaries. Information
> here in SGE. There's a mountain fault in the Canaries facing our way.
> If it slipped into the sea, we would get a huge tsunami.

Some nick name similar to canterbury which is the area where Christchurch
is located.

No one has committed suicide. Its something that a New Zealand person would
not do.

Thanks for the link.

We had two earthquakes in the middle of the night but nothing major.
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Regards Brian

Jack Campin

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Jan 10, 2012, 8:59:10 PM1/10/12
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>> is the suicide rate up ?
> No one has committed suicide. Its something that a New Zealand person
> would not do.

NZ has a larger than average suicide rate, but the earthquake seems to
have reduced it a bit.

http://www.3news.co.nz/Chief-Coroner-releases-NZ-suicide-statistics/tabid/423/articleID/223638/Default.aspx

I grew up in Hamilton, which I later found out had the highest suicide
rate in NZ at the time. Didn't surprise me a bit.

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Brian

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Jan 11, 2012, 5:18:30 AM1/11/12
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I would have thought that America had the largest suicide rate. There is
very little on the NZ news about people committing suicide.

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Weatherlawyer

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Jan 11, 2012, 6:37:43 AM1/11/12
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On Jan 9, 11:58 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
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> During the February earthquake the water was not suitable for drinking

I imagine the British institution of converting all the rivers and
streams in their towns and cities into sewerage systems hasn't helped
there.

I wonder if that spammer has got a solution manual for that.

kolldata

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Jan 11, 2012, 10:36:50 AM1/11/12
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On Jan 11, 3:18 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
> Jack Campin <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> is the suicide rate up ?
> >> No one has committed suicide. Its something that a New Zealand person
> >> would not do.
>
> > NZ has a larger than average suicide rate, but the earthquake seems to
> > have reduced it a bit.
>
> >http://www.3news.co.nz/Chief-Coroner-releases-NZ-suicide-statistics/t...
>
> > I grew up in Hamilton, which I later found out had the highest suicide
> > rate in NZ at the time.  Didn't surprise me a bit.
>
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> > Jack Campin,  11 Third Street,  Newtongrange,  Midlothian EH22 4PU,  Scotland
> > mobile 07800 739 557       <http://www.campin.me.uk>      Twitter: JackCampin
>
> I would have thought that America had the largest suicide rate. There is
> very little on the NZ news about people committing suicide.
>
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Nicknames as in 'Tales' ? I met NZ farmers on San Juan Island.....

and pip pip !

https://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&hl=en&tab=gw#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=suicide+rate+christchurch+new+zeeland&psj=1&oq=&aq=&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=4f1cfb658b5297a4&biw=1152&bih=614

I'm camped at Imperial Dam, California doing field work with nelsonii
Great tail Grackles.
Grackles are intelligent, can whistle communicative l;anguage. In
language, grackles predict quake activity. Any NZ birds similar ?
The Salton Sea area, see The USGS Earthquakes>Cal/Nv map, above El
Centro is over the hill.
We have quake effects daily from the Salton faults and a grackle
colony on the Colorado.
The Salton people are geothermal with crust very thin there as Baja
California seperates from mainland Mexico.

http://www.paddling.net/launches/showLaunch.html?lid=17615http://www.paddling.net/launches/showLaunch.html?lid=17615

http://www.paddling.net/launches/showLaunch.html?lid=13496



Brian

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Jan 11, 2012, 8:16:59 PM1/11/12
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Due to pipes being damaged or blocked the sewerage was dumped into the sea
and rivers. Warnings about swimming was issued. The current drinking water
was not healthy to drink so it was a case of filling up large bottles near
by water tank truck.

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Regards Brian

kolldata

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Jan 13, 2012, 10:17:59 PM1/13/12
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Brian, what is the link for your seismograph site ?

Brian

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Jan 14, 2012, 12:39:42 AM1/14/12
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kolldata <data...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brian, what is the link for your seismograph site ?

These are popular sites.

http://www.canterburyquakelive.co.nz/

http://www.geonet.org.nz/canterbury-quakes/aftershocks/

http://www.geonet.org.nz/earthquake/quakes/recent_quakes.html



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Regards Brian

Weatherlawyer

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Jan 14, 2012, 8:58:52 AM1/14/12
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On Jan 11, 1:59 am, Jack Campin <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >> is the suicide rate up ?
> > No one has committed suicide. Its something that a New Zealand person
> > would not do.
>
> NZ has a larger than average suicide rate, but the earthquake seems to
> have reduced it a bit.
>
> http://www.3news.co.nz/Chief-Coroner-releases-NZ-suicide-statistics/t...
By 3news.co.nz staff

In a rare move the Chief Coroner has made public national statistics
on suicide in New Zealand allowing unprecedented media coverage on the
previously taboo subject.

It is the most detailed statistical report on suicide released to the
public. Media is often discouraged to report on suicide for fears of
copycat attempts by others at risk.

Chief Coroner Judge Neil MacLean says current suicide prevention
techniques are not working and stressed that a new approach is needed.

“I have suggested that there may be room for a gentle opening up of
the restrictions on media reporting of suicide, but we need to
consider all viewpoints – especially those of families – so we can
make informed decisions.”

Mr MacLean says New Zealand’s high suicide toll is a “concerning
commentary on our society”.

The findings, collected by the Ministry of Justice database, show
suicide in New Zealand has risen from 540 deaths annually in 2007/2008
to 558 in 2010/2011.

Among other findings:

Men are three times more likely to commit suicide then women

The age groups most at risk are 15-29 year olds and 45-54 year
olds

Maori have the highest rate of suicide

In a controversial move Mr MacLean revealed that hanging,
strangulation and suffocation are the preferred methods of suicide,
accounting for more than half of all deaths.

A specific report was also conducted into suicide deaths in relation
to the Christchurch quakes. It found a drop in numbers since the
September quake. The lower trend is shown to continue into this year.

Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne says the lower numbers after the
quakes is positive.

“People pull together and there is a strong sense of community which
can support the individual after natural disasters."

But he fears the real impact of the quakes could hit in the months to
come.

“The bigger risk period is well after the event when, among other
things, despair can take hold.

“This means that we will need to be particularly vigilant that the
community of Christchurch continues to be supported, and that people
are helped through what is an incredibly challenging and difficult
time,” he says.

Mr Dunne agrees new and better ways are needed to prevent suicide in
New Zealand.

“The reasons behind any suicide are complex, and we need to approach
the whole issue with as much knowledge, research and evidence as we
can,” Mr Dunne said.

Read more:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Chief-Coroner-releases-NZ-suicide-statistics/tabid/423/articleID/223638/Default.aspx#ixzz1jROfWd22

> I grew up in Hamilton, which I later found out had the highest suicide
> rate in NZ at the time.  Didn't surprise me a bit.

What is the reason for that? (Assuming there is a reason.)
It's one of the most beautiful countries in the world to live in.

Brian

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Jan 16, 2012, 1:01:23 AM1/16/12
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Thanks Weatherlawyer.
It was interesting to read about suicide facts.
I feel it is likely to happen when a person that loses the purpose he has
in life. A teenager has not achieved what he wants in life and an older
person feels he has no more purpose in life. It's the feeling of being
wanted that keeps us going in life.

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Weatherlawyer

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Jan 16, 2012, 4:25:43 AM1/16/12
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On Jan 16, 6:01 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 11, 1:59 am, Jack Campin <bo...@purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> NZ has a larger than average suicide rate, but the earthquake seems to
> >> have reduced it a bit.
>
> >>http://www.3news.co.nz/Chief-Coroner-releases-NZ-suicide-statistics/t...
> > By 3news.co.nz staff
>
> > In a rare move the Chief Coroner has made public national statistics
> > on suicide in New Zealand allowing unprecedented media coverage on the
> > previously taboo subject.
>
> > A specific report was also conducted into suicide deaths in relation
> > to the Christchurch quakes. It found a drop in numbers since the
> > September quake. The lower trend is shown to continue into this year.
>
> >  People pull together and there is a strong sense of community which
> > can support the individual after natural disasters."
>
> > But he fears the real impact of the quakes could hit in the months to
> > come.
>> >http://www.3news.co.nz/Chief-Coroner-releases-NZ-suicide-statistics/t...
>
> >> I grew up in Hamilton, which I later found out had the highest suicide
> >> rate in NZ at the time.  Didn't surprise me a bit.
>
> It was interesting to read about suicide facts.
> I feel it is likely to happen when a person that loses the purpose he has
> in life.  A teenager has not achieved what he wants in life and an older
> person feels he has no more purpose in life. It's the feeling of being
> wanted that keeps us going in life.

There has to be something else beside outer events. Everyone is
subject to ups and downs. I get them quite badly sometimes but I have
never even begun to understand that as a cause of suicide.

When you have ups you know you are going to have downers and thus when
you are down you know that in a few days you will be on an upper.

Personally, though I hate the down side, I am usually looking forwards
to my next high. Even in a bad one.

The idea of hushing it all up sounds like the dark ages in Britain
which was still going strong when I was in school. In those days a
doctor treating a mortally ill patient would as like as not lie to him
thus giving him no chance to make changes or see another doctor. Nor
prepare the family.

Mad.

Brian

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Jan 16, 2012, 6:50:26 PM1/16/12
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Also knowing how to deal with bad news and depression can prevent many
suicides.
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Regards Brian

Brian

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Jan 16, 2012, 6:50:27 PM1/16/12
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Hi Weatherlaywer.

I don't understand the last few words you wrote. Do you mean "lieto him so
he had no chance to make changes or see another doctor"?

For some people they don't get a high in their life soon enough to recover
them from any serious depression and get deeper into depression till they
go past a stage where it's very difficult to recover. It can be a
combination of too much work and the lack of sleep plus stress and being
hit with bad news too often. It's worst when they live on their own with
very little contact with other people. The mind becomes wide open to
receive negative thoughts of things that have gone wrong in their lives.
Those that have a purpose in life or have a strong belief in something are
unlikely to committee suicide and will generally live a long life.

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Regards Brian

Weatherlawyer

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Jan 16, 2012, 10:59:04 PM1/16/12
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That's probable.

I was was talking in generalities. Patients with incurable diseases
were often not told the condition of their condition.

To this day there is only the machine led chemical empire run method
of curing people in the western world.

But if you hide the facts -any facts from a person, what chance does
he have to dispute them.

It reminds me of the run-ins we have had on here:

I maintain that being able to read a variety of earth-signs allows to
one to know when a planet wide situation is critical.
And that this will lead to one of two crisis:
A Tropical Storm or an earthquake.
Sometimes both.

You are adamant that that can not happen.

You are dyed in the wool, old school science.
I have very little sympathy with their ideas or empathy with their
methods.

You say a thing can't be done I say it can. And we end up calling each
other names to absolutely no good -or for that matter, bad. It is just
plain ill natured childishness.

Maybe you get ups and downs too?

Brian

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Jan 17, 2012, 3:21:45 AM1/17/12
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I notice that radio stations seem to tone things down when a caller speaks
about something that could happen or the caller gets cut off.
There are some problems with people. If someone knew exactly when an
earthquake was to strike then who is going to believe him. Can you imagine
someone walking into a business building and telling everyone to get out as
an earthquake was about to strike the city. Who would believe him.
The same thing happens in medical discoveries. If it's not in a medical
book then doctors don't want to know about it and it can take a long time
before it is accepted.
People often get cured by non medical treatments.
If the Govt knew of an earthquake then it would not say much to avoid
people panicing. Also by the time they check their facts and a lot of red
tape etc it would be too late.
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Regards Brian

Weatherlawyer

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Jan 17, 2012, 6:51:42 AM1/17/12
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> If the Govt. knew of an earthquake then it would not say much to avoid
> people panicking. Also by the time they check their facts and a lot of red
> tape etc., it would be too late.

I was reading a article on super rust just now:
http://www.oilcrash.com/articles/super.htm

Looking for more I realised I was on a NZ site that is on a rapid down
cycle. I suppose you can willingly lock yourself into a negative mind
set thinking you are offering the world some sort of moral condiment.

As for focussing on a region small enough to evince a reasonable
forecast for a reasonable community, that is still a long way off.

But then all new branches of physics have opened doors initially that
were just too big to be seen for what they were.

Look at the invention of radio. That started by a man just switching
an electric circuit on and off.

That the action could be monitored on another continent was
breathtaking news once.

Scores of people gathered in auditoriums just to realise him doing it.
(Obviously he couldn't be there and elsewhere sending the messages.)

Now we take a refined version for granted and expect ultimate privacy
whilst engaged in using it.

Brian

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Jan 17, 2012, 6:25:19 PM1/17/12
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Talking of radio....people are starting to accept things more these days.
Many years ago before radio if you told people that one day you would be
able to hear someone across the other side of the world they would think
that you are crazy.
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Regards Brian

Weatherlawyer

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Jan 18, 2012, 8:32:48 AM1/18/12
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Careful, Brian.

You sound like you might be crossing over into the dark-side.

Brian

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Jan 18, 2012, 7:40:04 PM1/18/12
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I hope not (grin).

Getting back to earthquakes I notice that there seems to be a pattern where
they have a sleeping period where there are only minor earthquake just
before a large earthquake strikes. Also the number of earthquakes in the
week of big earthquake seems to be declining. Its interesting how a new
area appears on the map for a series of earthquakes in this case it is in
the sea very close to the shore of Christchurch.
Some say the earthquakes are moving more east but I don't believe that is
try thy don't preform like that of a thunder store.

--
Regards Brian

kolldata

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Jan 18, 2012, 9:17:27 PM1/18/12
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I don't know NZ quakes but with USGS earthquake mapping, you can learn
accurate predicition thru reading the map and then plate movement and
pressures to move.

As Honshu is now predictable, or Alaska or the west coast USA this
past week even to Calexico/Mexicali and this without geology knowledge
so i assume an earthquake geologist predicts accurately. That is not
enough even adding GPS ground movement monitoring to move people out
of an area....

Do you know of the Chinese earthquake warning saving a city built of
Stalin Concrete like Christchurch ?

Have you read Snakes Awake by Tributsch ?

kolldata

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Jan 18, 2012, 10:14:40 PM1/18/12
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there are psychics, possibly geo psychics predicted the quakes....ask
them what happened.

Brian

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Jan 19, 2012, 5:34:51 PM1/19/12
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In NZ we don't get much information such as the ground movement, etc. Just
the strength, location and dept of the earthquake. I get the feeling hat
part of the job geologist is to stop any panic by telling people that a big
earthquake is very unlikely. Some are thinking that the geologist don't
know whats going on and what they say and what is happening is too
different things. There unlikely's seem to be more possibilities and likely
to happen to some of us.
One thing that people learn is to never trust an earthquake. Just when you
think its all over a strong earthquake strikes the city.


--
Regards Brian

Weatherlawyer

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Jan 22, 2012, 12:29:31 PM1/22/12
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I've been saying something like that for years.

When the MetO charts shows lots of Occluded Fronts then dotted lines
appear on the charts that's the quiet zone.

The next day:
Pow!

> Its interesting how a new
> area appears on the map for a series of earthquakes in this case it is in
> the sea very close to the shore of Christchurch.
> Some say the earthquakes are moving more east but I don't believe that is
> try thy don't preform like that of a thunder store.

"that is try thy don't preform like that of a thunder store" =
why they don't behave like thunderstorms. ?

Plot them on a globe. The sets run in straight lines and the series
move north and south from region to region.

I've got a theory about that.

Do you know how wide a seismic wave is?

I imagine 0.01 Hz and 10 Hz will be similar distances. A ball park for
crest to crest of either, would do.

Weatherlawyer

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On Jan 22, 5:29 pm, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 12:40 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I notice that there seems to be a pattern where
> > they have a sleeping period where there are only minor earthquake just
> > before a large earthquake strikes. Also the number of earthquakes in the
> > week of big earthquake seems to be declining.
>
> I've been saying something like that for years.
>
> When the MetO charts shows lots of Occluded Fronts then dotted lines
> appear on the charts that's the quiet zone.
>
> The next day:
> Pow!

Follow the cyclosis of this Cat 4 off Africa into the Antarctic:
> http://my.opera.com/Weatherlawyer/albums/showpic.dml?album=10691352&picture=141095082

From my album in my blog:

"This one is interesting.
I'll post a full animation of it tonight.

That blue blob off Africa (40 degrees East) is a Cat 3 going on Cat 4
typhoon and has been continually feeding into the Arctic and
circulating around to the other side of the continent (140 West) and
going ashore there.

So that explains the spates of certain earthquakes during a so and so
spell and it also indicates where, how and why they happen."

> http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/
> http://www.bom.gov.au/australia/charts/viewer/index.shtml?type=mslp-precip&tz=UTC&area=SH&model=G

Two storms were extant for most of the last week and they brought
double and treble quakes with them so you can soon pinpoint the
connecting ones:

5.2 LAKE RUDOLF REGION, KENYA
5.0 ATACAMA, CHILE
5.2 SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION
6.0 SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION
6.3 OFFSHORE CHIAPAS, MEXICO
5.0 MARIANA ISLANDS REGION

5.3 KEPULAUAN SANGIHE, INDONESIA
5.6 FLORES REGION, INDONESIA
5.2 OFF THE EAST COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN

5.1 NORTHEASTERN IRAN
5.2 OFF WEST COAST OF THE SOUTH ISLAND, N.Z.
5.9 OFF WEST COAST OF THE SOUTH ISLAND, N.Z.
5.0 DOMINICAN REPUBLIC REGION
5.6 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS
5.1 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS

5.2 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS
5.4 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS
5.2 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS
5.1 MOLUCCA SEA
5.5 MOLUCCA SEA
5.0 SAN JUAN, ARGENTINA
5.2 MOLUCCA SEA

5.6 COQUIMBO, CHILE
5.7 SAMAR, PHILIPPINES
5.0 MINDANAO, PHILIPPINES

5.1 NORTH OF ASCENSION ISLAND
5.1 SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION
5.1 SOUTH SANDWICH ISLANDS REGION
5.3 MOLUCCA SEA
5.2 SULAWESI, INDONESIA

Brian

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Jan 23, 2012, 6:54:06 AM1/23/12
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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 12:40 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
>> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I notice that there seems to be a pattern where
>> they have a sleeping period where there are only minor earthquake just
>> before a large earthquake strikes. Also the number of earthquakes in the
>> week of big earthquake seems to be declining.
>
> I've been saying something like that for years.
>
> When the MetO charts shows lots of Occluded Fronts then dotted lines
> appear on the charts that's the quiet zone.
>
> The next day:
> Pow!
>
>> Its interesting how a new
>> area appears on the map for a series of earthquakes in this case it is in
>> the sea very close to the shore of Christchurch.
>> Some say the earthquakes are moving more east but I don't believe that is
>> try thy don't preform like that of a thunder store.
>
> "that is try thy don't preform like that of a thunder store" why they
> don't behave like thunderstorms. ?
>
> Plot them on a globe. The sets run in straight lines and the series
> move north and south from region to region.
>
> I've got a theory about that.
>
> Do you know how wide a seismic wave is?
>
> I imagine 0.01 Hz and 10 Hz will be similar distances. A ball park for
> crest to crest of either, would do.

going by the bumps in the road a seismic wave is approx 10 meters.
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Brian

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Jan 23, 2012, 6:54:07 AM1/23/12
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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 19, 12:40 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
>> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I notice that there seems to be a pattern where
>> they have a sleeping period where there are only minor earthquake just
>> before a large earthquake strikes. Also the number of earthquakes in the
>> week of big earthquake seems to be declining.
>
> I've been saying something like that for years.
>
> When the MetO charts shows lots of Occluded Fronts then dotted lines
> appear on the charts that's the quiet zone.
>
> The next day:
> Pow!
>
>> Its interesting how a new
>> area appears on the map for a series of earthquakes in this case it is in
>> the sea very close to the shore of Christchurch.
>> Some say the earthquakes are moving more east but I don't believe that is
>> try thy don't preform like that of a thunder store.
>
> "that is try thy don't preform like that of a thunder store" why they
> don't behave like thunderstorms. ?
>
> Plot them on a globe. The sets run in straight lines and the series
> move north and south from region to region.
>
> I've got a theory about that.
>
> Do you know how wide a seismic wave is?
>
> I imagine 0.01 Hz and 10 Hz will be similar distances. A ball park for
> crest to crest of either, would do.

I'm pleased that you agree with my pattern theory Weatherlawyer.
As soon as people start saying that it's over now like in December last
month, suddenly a strong earthquake appears.
Maybe over time a pattern will form so it may be possible to tell what
month a large quake will occur.
One things for certain there has never been a week where the max quake for
the week has been less than 3.0 for Canterbury.
There have been other large quakes in New Zealand but they have been very
deep that they have not be felt very much by people.

The latest is that holes are appearing in the streets of Christchurch. Once
the silt has gone then there's not much under the road so holes will
appear. In one case recently a car's wheel dropped down as a hole was
created by the weight of the car.


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Regards Brian

Weatherlawyer

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Jan 23, 2012, 9:43:17 PM1/23/12
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Thank you.

I was expecting more. I wonder how far apart wave crests are in ocean
swell.

Weatherlawyer

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Jan 23, 2012, 10:10:14 PM1/23/12
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On Jan 23, 11:54 am, Brian <bcl...@es.co.nz> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
>
> > Do you know how wide a seismic wave is?
>
> > I imagine 0.01 Hz and 10 Hz will be similar distances. A ball park for
> > crest to crest of either, would do.
>
> I'm pleased that you agree with my pattern theory Weatherlawyer.
> As soon as people start saying that it's over now like in December last
> month, suddenly a strong earthquake appears.
> Maybe over time a pattern will form so it may be possible to tell what
> month a large quake will occur.

It's not your pattern.
It comes from god and it has therefore got a blood good reason; not
least of which is that he put us on this planet as husbands of it.

A job we seem glad to disabuse ourselves off as soon as not.

> One things for certain there has never been a week where the max quake for
> the week has been less than 3.0 for Canterbury.
> There have been other large quakes in New Zealand but they have been very
> deep that they have not be felt very much by people.
>
> The latest is that holes are appearing in the streets of Christchurch. Once
> the silt has gone then there's not much under the road so holes will
> appear. In one case recently a car's wheel dropped down as a hole was
> created by the weight of the car.

Get yourself a globe of the sort stationers and bookshops sell at the
start of school terms. Also, you need to get or make a long pair of
dividers.

If you can get some from a shop clean out, the sort of card used in
large displays would be an asset too. (Cereal boxes turn out to be
just too small by an inch or so.)

Locate all the quakes that occur once a lunar spell has been under way
for a day or two. (One has just started.)
Download the images from the "MAP" link on the NEIC lists and plot the
epicentres onto your globe.

The benefit of a card is easily seen if you cut an hole the diameter
of the globe and use it as a compass instead of the pair of dividers,
marking them out can become tedious.

You will see as you plot them they all conform to either of two
patterns:

The earthquakes of Magnitude 5 or over will describe a straight line
on the Great Circle or will describe an almost perfect circle.

The latter is common in the region of the China Seas IIRC.

I'd like to see what plots you can make of 3 and ups around New
Zealand. Better run them from PNG and Kermadec too.

***

I have just been watching a BBC DVD called Earth Story.
The second disc concerns mountain building and the late 50's early
60's invention of Plate Tectonics. You should get it if you can, it's
a real scream.

I fell asleep at the point where Aubrey Manning -the narrator, was
telling me that water compressed under mountains is responsible for
the way plates crawl over each other, but even so my subconscious got
me up with the thought:

"Egress; dummy!"

I watched it ages ago, got it for old time's sake and can't be
bothered pulling it apart. It might make a project if you have time on
your hands.

If you really want to learn anything.

(I got the impression you are content to stay in the heart of the
flock of sheeple here.)

Brian

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Jan 24, 2012, 12:53:34 AM1/24/12
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Keen software writers have written programs that plot earthquakes. Some can
be run as a simulation so you can see in over a fast rate of time where the
big earthquakes appear. Christchurch looks like bombs have been dropped on
it. There are not many parts east of Christchurch where an earthquake
location has not appeared.
I like to study earthquake patterns as sometimes the future can be determed
by what has happened in the past.
Scientists ae trying to compare the canterbury earthquakes to other
earthquakes in the world but can find no match. The big question on
everyones mind is when and where will the next big earthquake strike.
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Regards Brian

Brian

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Jan 24, 2012, 1:18:33 AM1/24/12
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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com>

>
> ***
>
> I have just been watching a BBC DVD called Earth Story.
> The second disc concerns mountain building and the late 50's early
> 60's invention of Plate Tectonics. You should get it if you can, it's
> a real scream.
>
> I fell asleep at the point where Aubrey Manning -the narrator, was
> telling me that water compressed under mountains is responsible for
> the way plates crawl over each other, but even so my subconscious got
> me up with the thought:
>
> "Egress; dummy!"
>
> I watched it ages ago, got it for old time's sake and can't be
> bothered pulling it apart. It might make a project if you have time on
> your hands.
>
> If you really want to learn anything.
>
> (I got the impression you are content to stay in the heart of the
> flock of sheeple here.)

I have heard of the video Earth Story but have notnseen it. It might be
available at my local video hire place...must check it out.

--
Regards Brian
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