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Weatherlawyer

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Aug 27, 2012, 4:01:22 PM8/27/12
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Latest Earthquakes M5.0+ in the World - Past 7 days
This webpage is being phased out and is no longer maintained. Please
use the new Real-time Earthquake Map instead and update your bookmark.
See Quick Tips & User Guide.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
CRAP.
Why do people keep wanting to change things that work?

But fancy replacing a perfectly serviceable HTML with this java
crapware:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/map/

It's heavy, cumbersome and uses code that is being phased out by HTML
5 (or is supposed to be.)

Yes it is an handy tool. One I would use if I had a use for it. It's
very clever -as an adjunct. But it is a prissy little list that need
tweaking every damned time you go there.

Ah hang on...
If you select View > Page Style and click on No Style (coincidentally
very appropriately named?) you get a list of sorts if you scroll down.

So that's OK.
But I am not an happy chappy.

data...@yahoo.com

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Aug 27, 2012, 9:17:05 PM8/27/12
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list ?

the whole damn map process.

Skywise

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Aug 27, 2012, 10:13:36 PM8/27/12
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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7c147e7c-a50a-465c-
a066-b0d...@vo6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:

> This webpage is being phased out and is no longer maintained.

Yeah, it sucks. I go to that page sometimes multiple times a day
as I can get in a quick glance of a couple seconds the newest
activity since the last time I looked.

I can (and have used) the new map. It has it's pro's and con's. It's
been especially nice being able to zoom way in on the Brawley activity
to see the fault trend patterns. Before I'd just load it into Google
Earth, but that's on the other computer so this saves me from starting
it up just for that. On the other hand, it's not as quick to see the
list as described above.

So far the list is still being updated. I'll continue hitting it until
it 404's.

Brian
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http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

Weatherlawyer

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Aug 28, 2012, 12:24:08 AM8/28/12
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On Aug 28, 3:13 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7c147e7c-a50a-465c-
> a066-b0d447b98...@vo6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
>
> > This webpage is being phased out and is no longer maintained.
>
> Yeah, it sucks. I go to that page sometimes multiple times a day
> as I can get in a quick glance of a couple seconds the newest
> activity since the last time I looked.
>
> I can (and have used) the new map. It has it's pro's and con's. It's
> been especially nice being able to zoom way in on the Brawley activity
> to see the fault trend patterns. Before I'd just load it into Google
> Earth, but that's on the other computer so this saves me from starting
> it up just for that. On the other hand, it's not as quick to see the
> list as described above.
>
> So far the list is still being updated. I'll continue hitting it until
> it 404's.

They got so much praise when they asked for comments that they must
have been walking on water. Now they think they are Oriel.

If they had just mentioned this was going to happen at the time, the
praise would have been a lot less fulsome.

It will be too late now. The bean counters are in charge of the fine
arts department. When that happens innovation ceases and penury
follows.

I don't see the Chinese taking over, nor the Pakistanis but a merger
between India and Russia might.

Looks like we lost more than a figurehead when Armstrong died.
At least nobody is talking about a two tier system of access like we
have in Britain:

One for the tax payer and another for those who are willing to pay
extra. And neither one much good in comparison to what the USA puts
out.

nos...@nospam.invalid

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Aug 28, 2012, 1:39:49 AM8/28/12
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Trying to find the beachballs for quakes is a major PITA on the new system.

"Weatherlawyer" <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:7c147e7c-a50a-465c...@vo6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

Skywise

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Aug 28, 2012, 2:11:49 AM8/28/12
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<nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in news:k1hlik$ns8$1...@news.albasani.net:

> Trying to find the beachballs for quakes is a major PITA on the new
> system.

What used to be tabs to go to different pages of info are now a
list on the left side. Once I figured that out I could find
everything... and more.

So, when you click on a quake in the list, it opens a new tab
for the info on that quake. In the menu on the left look for
'technical'. Under that are the links for the beachballs.

It's probably no good complaining. Things change and it's no
fun because we get comfortable to our environment.

Instead, how about we all just help each other adapt? We may
find it better in the long run. It looks like there's a lot
more information available under the new system.

oriel36

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Aug 28, 2012, 2:53:09 PM8/28/12
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On Aug 28, 5:24 am, Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 28, 3:13 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
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> > Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:7c147e7c-a50a-465c-
> > a066-b0d447b98...@vo6g2000pbc.googlegroups.com:
>
> > > This webpage is being phased out and is no longer maintained.
>
> > Yeah, it sucks. I go to that page sometimes multiple times a day
> > as I can get in a quick glance of a couple seconds the newest
> > activity since the last time I looked.
>
> > I can (and have used) the new map. It has it's pro's and con's. It's
> > been especially nice being able to zoom way in on the Brawley activity
> > to see the fault trend patterns. Before I'd just load it into Google
> > Earth, but that's on the other computer so this saves me from starting
> > it up just for that. On the other hand, it's not as quick to see the
> > list as described above.
>
> > So far the list is still being updated. I'll continue hitting it until
> > it 404's.
>
> They got so much praise when they asked for comments that they must
> have been walking on water. Now they think they are Oriel.
>


I have had a great adventure the last few days on Wikipedia
researching how two people rewrote the thinking on plate tectonics to
include rotation as a mechanism,normally a step like that would be
announced as a major modification to the previous thinking based on
thermal 'convection cells' - I even got a laugh from some unknown
contributor who edited the newly introduced text to read 'Alfred
geraldis' instead of Alfred Wegener .

I don't look for something as irrelevant as praise or
recognition,anyone over the last 7 years could have discussed or added
to the core driver of crustal evolution and its destruction by way of
differential rotation but men are small in this era and prefer to
behave like thieves and that is why the attempt to introduce a
rotational mechanism without attribution is crude.If they wanted the
whole concept of rotation drawn down from observing rotating celestial
objects all they had to do was ask instead of being dullards flailing
around trying to make a Frankenstein's monster mechanism that students
are bound to encounter.

That is the real insult,not that they tried to steal a concept which
anyone in sci.geo.geology could have read about 7 years ago but that
they mangled the straightforward reasoning.So much for
geologists !,there were once great men of stature and integrity but
not today,just welfare recipients who can't make the effort or do not
have the talent to handle that discipline where astronomy and
terrestrial sciences mesh.

Thank God I never was a part of the dreary empirical culture ! - I
missed nothing.



Weatherlawyer

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Aug 28, 2012, 4:01:28 PM8/28/12
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On Aug 28, 7:53 pm, oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
.....

You would happen to be a septuagenarian Frenchman would you?

Weatherlawyer

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Aug 28, 2012, 4:03:33 PM8/28/12
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On Aug 28, 7:11 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
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> It looks like there's a lot more information available under the new system.

Such as?

Skywise

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Aug 28, 2012, 6:51:16 PM8/28/12
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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ff0facc8-9ec0-40c3-
b53f-302...@ft6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
For example, I see more data available under the downloads section
that I've not noticed before. Who knows, maybe it's always been
there, but under the old pages I just didn't see it.

data...@yahoo.com

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Aug 28, 2012, 10:15:50 PM8/28/12
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On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 4:03:33 PM UTC-4, Weatherlawyer wrote
> On Aug 28, 7:11 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
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> > It looks like there's a lot more information available under the new system.
>
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> Such as?

haven't used the new system....why waste time ? ....NOAA HAS A NEW LAYOUT following presentation of a failed new layout...the new NOAA is a pleasant surprise..

BUT refering to the 'outmoded system'...eg one could watch for a notching effect on the San Andreas then follow secondary effects learning new details...then predicitng s swarm or near 5 from the total grip/lack of continuous movement...


so where's that observation process now with the baloons ? I dunno.

An improvement ? I dunno. Now a word from UC Geo...

data...@yahoo.com

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Aug 28, 2012, 10:19:14 PM8/28/12
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ahhh raining again...one more columnar...greaaaaat weather from Isaac...streets are empty, plants singing green....FRESH AIR....BREEZY...CLEAN !!!!

NO TOURISTS !

data...@yahoo.com

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Aug 28, 2012, 10:23:43 PM8/28/12
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'like' my program crashed....

oriel36

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Aug 29, 2012, 12:52:20 AM8/29/12
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You are fine,I haven't seen anything approaching an adult when it
comes to handling evolutionary geology and the mishandling of rotation
is more childish than it is criminal.It is like watching children
pulling every level to make rotation work without the simple protocols
and the application of principles which make the action of the
rotating fluid dynamic on the fractured surface crust so easy to
understand.



Weatherlawyer

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Aug 29, 2012, 3:01:17 PM8/29/12
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On Aug 28, 11:51 pm, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:ff0facc8-9ec0-40c3-
> b53f-302fe0b32...@ft6g2000vbb.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Aug 28, 7:11 am, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
>
> >> It looks like there's a lot more information available under the new system.
>
> > Such as?
>
> For example, I see more data available under the downloads section
> that I've not noticed before. Who knows, maybe it's always been
> there, but under the old pages I just didn't see it.

Apart from the fact you can arrange sequences of earthquakes to show
how they occur in straight lines, there isn't anything on the site
besides the lists.

You can download the sit with commas separating the columns so you can
play with them in a spreadsheet. And you can control the magnitudes
you don't want to have to eradicate in said sheet.

But apart from that you have to reset the java console every damned
time you use the page.

Skywise

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Aug 29, 2012, 6:34:10 PM8/29/12
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Weatherlawyer <weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:9cd1010f-0128-4efe-
b74a-f00...@z4g2000vby.googlegroups.com:

> But apart from that you have to reset the java console every damned
> time you use the page.

That must be a problem with your browser/java, as I don't have
that issue. Actually, I don't even have java enabled, so apparently
it's not required. I don't run java unless absolutely required
as it can be a security issue.

As for doing anything with a large list of hundreds or thousands,
I usually download the entire catalog and write my own software.
I have copies of several different catalogs on the hard drive.

Weatherlawyer

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Aug 29, 2012, 10:21:29 PM8/29/12
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On Aug 29, 11:34 pm, Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote:
> Weatherlawyer <weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:9cd1010f-0128-4efe-
> b74a-f00afb98b...@z4g2000vby.googlegroups.com:
>
> > But apart from that you have to reset the java console every damned
> > time you use the page.
>
> That must be a problem with your browser/java, as I don't have
> that issue. Actually, I don't even have java enabled, so apparently
> it's not required. I don't run java unless absolutely required
> as it can be a security issue.
>
> As for doing anything with a large list of hundreds or thousands,
> I usually download the entire catalog and write my own software.
> I have copies of several different catalogs on the hard drive.

I was throwing away all the depths from the lists I was compiling till
Barb pointed out an anomaly with them.

Now it has screwed me up royally.
In a most particularly pleasing way.

It's a pity numbers are a lost cause to me.
More interestingly, they seem to be a lost cause to seismologists too.
A bit like computing and meteorology.

They have found all the bits but the picture is on the other side.

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