14:04
Weatherlawyer
6 hours different to the preceding phase. That's a set-up.
13 hours since the ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION quake and counting.
5.2 M.
...but of course it is going to be different in some respects. It's
just that we get a cluster of variegated stuff like these:
5.3 /03 22:43 IRAN-IRAQ BORDER REGION
5.2 /03 12:16 SOLOMON ISLANDS
6.3 /03 11:25 SANTIAGO DEL ESTERO, ARGENTINA
5.4 /02 20:01 TONGA
...before we get a pairing something like this:
5.1 M. 4th @ 12:53 30.4 N. 80.3 E. Western Xizang-India.
5.6 M. 4th @ 09:37 12.1 S. 167.1 E. Santa Cruz Islands
5.1 M. 4th @ 09:34 12.1 S. 166.7 E. Santa Cruz Islands
5.3 M. 3rd @ 22:43 32.4 N. 47.4 E. Iran-Iraq Border...
...and lose a storm.
Weatherlawyer
>
> 7 to 15 September: 14:04.
> 6 hours different to the preceding phase. That's a set-up.
>
> 13 hours since the ANDAMAN ISLANDS, INDIA REGION quake and counting.
> 5.2 M.
New storm coming. With a two hour lag while they check it, it has been
16 hours and no new Mag 5+.
I should be in bed. But this stuff is a compulsive master. I can
understand what happened to FitzRoy now. Poor bugger.
Weatherlawyer
I knew these things were related but couldn't see how.:
Vanuatu
Andaman Islands, India Region
Mid-indian Ridge
Bonin Islands, Japan Region
Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
North Of Ascension Island
Izu Islands, Japan Region
Vanuatu
Hindu Kush Region, Afghanistan
Kermadec Islands Region
Western Xizang-india Border Region
Santa Cruz Islands
Santa Cruz Islands
Iran-iraq Border Region
Solomon Islands
Santiago Del Estero, Argentina
Tonga
Northwestern Iran
Vanuatu
Eastern New Guinea Reg, Papua New Guinea
Flores Region, Indonesia
Nias Region, Indonesia
Izu Islands, Japan Region
Kepulauan Talaud, Indonesia
Tonga Region
Fiji Region
South Of The Fiji Islands
Fiji Region
Tajikistan
South Of The Fiji Islands
They are near locations that repeat.
Weatherlawyer
By "near locations that repeat" I meant that some of the places were
not many degrees from others in that list. They are a few degrees
apart. About how far apart they would be if they were under a storm
that was traveling about 6 to 12 knots -about as far as it would
travel in the times they are apart.
Tropical storms tend to move at the same speed.
Coincidence?
I don't think so.
Whatever controls the movements of storms controls the movements of
earthquake epicentres. Which lends itself to a theory about clarifying
the movements of storm tracks.
Present techniques are pretty good but run within an error parameter
that indicates that one or more of the functions used in the input
data is a related value caused by the same initial forces but
appearing as a symptom, not a disease.
So if we can use the above information to correct that bit, computed
weather models will improve dramatically.
Which brings me to another problem I have been mulling over for the
last few days.
Weatherlawyer
ACTIVE STORMS
Ike (Atlantic)
Lowell (East Pacific)
Hanna (Atlantic)
Ike is a cat 2 hurricane.
The N Atlantic chart is interesting: >
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/weather/Dorridge.htm
Ordinarily the isobars go up or down in 4 mb increments. I think
Britain is under a col. I don't know how long it will last. Or what
will displace the void.
Last week a bunch of Lows gathered off the coast and rotated as they
elongated over the UK, eventually ending up south of the Isles and
running through via Sea Area: Shannon. Always a bad sign.
Floods ensued.
The charts had better definitions This one is a mess.
Skywise
b477-336...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
> They are near locations that repeat.
WOW!!! You've discovered that earthquakes happen more often
where earthquakes have happened before.
Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?
Weatherlawyer
> Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:23d32c7e-acff-4cc9-
> b477-336a5ccc7...@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
>
> > They are near locations that repeat.
>
> WOW!!! You've discovered that earthquakes happen more often
> where earthquakes have happened before.
Is there something I can do for you?
You seem particularly starved of attention. Or is this just what you
do when you have finished picking your nose?
Your compulsive behaviour that seems devoid of any purpose or merit is
akin to a brain disorder related to autism. But autistic people
usually have a gift, do they not?
What is yours?
"always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge"?
But buck up. All is not lost. I don't like you.
Weatherlawyer
Meanwhile over in Vanuatu something stirred?
2008/09/08
5.2 19:52 -17.5 179.5 Fiji
7.0 18:52 -13.5 166.9 Vanuatu
5.2 10:44 -2.2 100.4 Kepulauan Mentawai, Indonesia
6.2 03:03 -20.0 169.1 Vanuatu
I wonder how far apart these places are.
I bet they mark the 7 M. down to a 6.8 or lower, it being an
aftershock and all. There should be another one due around the 14th to
16th. And speaking of that spell, it is some 1 hour different to this
one.
(Or 5 or 7 hours, depending on how you look at it. I don't think it
hurts to be meticulous. I aught to give it a try. One of those thing
to put on my list.)
Over in the Americas, Ike is now a mere hurricane heading for Texas,
more stirrings due in the Adreanof Islands by the look of things.
Skywise
bdad-00f...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> Is there something I can do for you?
Go away?
> You seem particularly starved of attention. Or is this just what you
> do when you have finished picking your nose?
Usually, I flick the booger somewhere after picking.
> Your compulsive behaviour that seems devoid of any purpose or merit
That you are able to see...or NOT see in this particular instance.
> is
> akin to a brain disorder related to autism. But autistic people
> usually have a gift, do they not?
You obviously know nothing of ASD.
> What is yours?
I'd spell them out but I'm not a braggart.
> "always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge"?
"accurate" knowledge?
> But buck up. All is not lost.
On you it is.
> I don't like you.
That's nice.
Weatherlawyer
Here we go with that reason the Vanuatu quake wasn't so terrible:
http://www.hurricanezone.net/tcgraphics/wp1508.gif
Now we will see something from this spell that will explain the 6 hour
difference in the spell.
Or not, as the case may be.
Weatherlawyer
I really believe that in certain parts of America, people have started
to mate with vegetables.
Jeremy Clarkson.
(1 year after Katrina.)
Weatherlawyer
Sinlaku
9th = 90k
10th = 105k
11th = 120k
12th =1115k
It was 70 knots a few hours back. It seems to have followed the clock
on this one:
6.1 M. 09th @ 12:23. -9.3; 158.3. SOLOMON ISLANDS
Weatherlawyer
5.5 10th @ 03:00 2.5 96.3 Simeulue, Indonesia
5.2 10th @ 01:28 30.9 83.4 Western Xizang
5.0 10th @ 01:15 30.8 83.5 Western Xizang
5.1 10th @ 00:19 2.5 96.2 Simeulue, Indonesia
5.6 09th @ 23:18 -11.8 166.5 Santa Cruz Islands
6.1 09th @ 12:23 -9.3 158.3 Solomon Islands
So the bottom 2 quakes signal a cease and desist as well as an
increase in intensity. I think that's fairly safe to say both Ike and
the new one are involved there.
New one on me though (thus new to the world as far as I know.)
The Chinese ones signal the end of Ike as a major player until it
fills the playground up to the Rockies and decides to go home. It will
be interesting to see if it works in concert with any other storms by
the time it or they get to the Carolinas.
Also of interest will be any measure of tornadic stuff with the
Chinese ones. Or perhaps that signal is lost in the arrival ashore of
Ike? Maybe it will spawn cyclonic (or maybe it is the cyclonic)
activity.
Which just leaves us the 2 Indonesian ones. I can't say. But would the
pair be a pairing similar to the others? (The locations of the first
two being pretty close.)
Basically it is a lot of signal and very little white noise.
I can hear it calling, calling my name
The sky is falling, falling's what it says.
Can't speak any louder, I hear it shout
I think it's very interesting and that there is no doubt.
Oh I, I see things everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere
Oh I...
Yes I, I can see it everywhere
Yes I can see it everywhere
Skywise
8347-fac...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
> I really believe that in certain parts of America, people have started
> to mate with vegetables.
Vegetables grow in England, too, ya know?
Damon Hill
@newsfe16.ams2:
> Weatherlawyer <Weathe...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3fa78a1b-4bf1-4db3-
> 8347-fac...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> I really believe that in certain parts of America, people have started
>> to mate with vegetables.
>
> Vegetables grow in England, too, ya know?
In the deep South, the kudzu will mate with YOU if you stand still
too long during the growing season. It might (or not) explain some
things.
--Damon
Weatherlawyer
BBC has sent a representative to the junket that is the physics lab in
Geneva where they hope to avoid setting the planet aflame with
particle physics.
There is a lot of activity along the lines of one of Shakespeare's
plays. It may be much ado about nothing or it might be a well matched
distraining pair. But I think that the Santa Cruz Islands and the
Solomon Islands count as the same place.
If they are a close match and the distance apart chronologically
counts for anything, then this is a clue to the disposition of and
probable intensity of tropical storms.
It could tell us where and what. The when will be obvious according to
the weather forecast some 3 to 5 days prior.
Which lends itself to the forecasting of...
damn... lost the thread.
No matter, it will return if it is worth knowing. And I will have lost
nothing if it was worth nothing.
It's annoying though.
Meanwhile over in the North Atlantic, the gathering:
http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/weather/Dorridge.htm
Something to do with a thought I had decades ago, that weather
forecasts might foretell earthquakes.
Why did it not click? What eludes me?
Weatherlawyer
I have definitely got a cracked mind.
The BBC sent a bunch of losers to Geneva and saw a lot of nothing.
Despite which, dedicated a lot of airspace to the affair.
500 hundred souls got killed in Haiti after a storm that was well
forecast. No one wanted to go there, obviously.
> If they are a close match and the distance apart chronologically
> counts for anything, then this is a clue to the disposition of and
> probable intensity of tropical storms.
>
> It could tell us where and what. The when will be obvious according to
> the weather forecast some 3 to 5 days prior.
>
> Which lends itself to the forecasting of...
> damn... lost the thread.
>
> No matter, it will return if it is worth knowing. And I will have lost
> nothing if it was worth nothing.
>
> It's annoying though. >
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/165_-10.php
A series of quakes acted as pre-quakes or fore-shocks to the ...
Hell, there is no such thing as a fore-shock or an after-shock. They
are no more related to each other than lightning in the same storm.
They are one phenomenon.
(as is the case with a lot of tornadoes in wide-spread storms.)
> Meanwhile over in the North Atlantic, the gathering:
> http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/weather/Dorridge.htm
A repeat for Britain, of last weeks weather spell?
It doesn't take much for geophysics to throw the phenomena up on a
distant shore.
> Something to do with a thought I had decades ago, that weather
> forecasts might foretell earthquakes.
>
> Why did it not click? What eludes me?
Because one half of my brain quite often doesn't know what is going on
in the other half. And I don't know how to get them in harmony. I know
I need to leave it, go away to a diversion and come back to it
refreshed.
But I just don't wish to let it go. It's an intense learning period
that drains all the pleasure out of it. I want to re-read the posts,
go back and look at the websites I visited and see if I can see
anything when I retrace my steps.
But of course, all I am doing is making an effort. I'd be better off
going to the shop and getting some eggs for my breakfast.
This is annoying!!!!!!!!!!
Sausages!!!!!!!
I think I shall have some beef and tomato sausages; see if that helps.
2 storms now in the Asian Pacific: >
http://www.hurricanezone.net/
Back soon.
Fievel Mousekewitz Sr (Not A CT'er)
"Damon Hill" <damon...@comcast.netnet> wrote in message
news:Xns9B14F2F8EEDE5...@127.0.0.1...
Am I wrong, or does a lot of this thread have to do
with a basic earthquake report?
If so,, what the #*&%^*#&#^????
Fievel.
Skywise
news:NqudnU0OJ7lJxVXV...@comcast.com:
> Am I wrong, or does a lot of this thread have to do
> with a basic earthquake report?
>
> If so,, what the #*&%^*#&#^????
Actually, the McNut seems to think there's a link between the
weather and earthquakes, so he's polluting both our groups.
Weatherlawyer
> http://www.hurricanezone.net/
Outrageous fortune for those in the so called far east:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/145_40.php
Some heady stuff most of it too recent to have hit the list yet.
I think the 6.9 M in Hokkaido might be promoted to a 7 or more.
MAP 5.0 2008/09/11 04:01:03 41.987 143.878 35.0 HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP 5.2 2008/09/11 02:16:10 26.915 55.754 10.0 SOUTHERN
IRAN
MAP 5.0 2008/09/11 01:08:12 41.747 143.929 35.0 HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP 5.4 2008/09/11 00:32:49 41.784 143.790 35.0 HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP 6.9 2008/09/11 00:20:53 41.979 143.625 35.0 HOKKAIDO,
JAPAN REGION
MAP 6.6 2008/09/11 00:00:02 1.865 127.439 93.1 HALMAHERA,
INDONESIA
MAP 5.8 2008/09/10 16:12:04 -20.261 -69.151 38.0 TARAPACA,
CHILE
MAP 6.6 2008/09/10 13:08:15 8.091 -38.748 10.0 CENTRAL MID-
ATLANTIC RIDGE
MAP 6.1 2008/09/10 11:00:35 26.862 55.801 15.0 SOUTHERN
IRAN
Something about this is hiding in my brain cells but I can't connect
to it. My race relied on people like me when there was no such thing
as radio and the Outer Isles were at the neck of the end of the world.
Those gifted with or touched or some such they were called.
Unfortunates. And they must have been very frustrating to the rest of
the tribe.
Feck em. They want the job they can have it! It doesn't pay very much
and I don't enjoy it like I used to. And what are the wages?
OK.
Let's have a look at the above
5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 Southern Iran
5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 Halmahera, Indonesia
5.8 Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 Southern Iran
That's the sequence
5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.4 Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.9 Hokkaido, Japan Region
6.6 Halmahera, Indonesia
That's the topic for today, children.
5.2 Southern Iran
5.8 Tarapaca, Chile
6.6 Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
6.1 Southern Iran
These are the also rans.
Weatherlawyer
> Let's have a look at the above
>
> 5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
> 5.2 Southern Iran
> 5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
> 5.4 Hokkaido, Japan Region
> 6.9 Hokkaido, Japan Region
> 6.6 Halmahera, Indonesia
> 5.8 Tarapaca, Chile
> 6.6 Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
> 6.1 Southern Iran
>
> That's the sequence
>
> 5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
> 5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
> 5.4 Hokkaido, Japan Region
> 6.9 Hokkaido, Japan Region
> 6.6 Halmahera, Indonesia
>
> That's the topic for today, children.
>
> 5.2 Southern Iran
> 5.8 Tarapaca, Chile
> 6.6 Central Mid-atlantic Ridge
> 6.1 Southern Iran
>
> These are the also rans.
Lots of pairing. including another 4.9 in Hokkaido to add to this
sequence:
5.0 Hokkaido, Japan Region
5.2 Southern Iran
Yet the storm Sinlaku is still a Cat 2 at 120 knots and slated to
reach 130 knots before it starts to unwind.
But all this pairing indicates otherwise. I must be wrong.
Weatherlawyer
<dlwstraus...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Damon Hill" <damon1S...@comcast.netnet> wrote in message
>
> news:Xns9B14F2F8EEDE5...@127.0.0.1...
>
>
>
> > Skywise <i...@oblivion.nothing.com> wrote in news:5WHxk.504946$JM.86263
> > @newsfe16.ams2:
>
> >> Weatherlawyer <Weatherlaw...@gmail.com> wrote in news:3fa78a1b-4bf1-4db3-
> >> 8347-fac35e72a...@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
> >>> I really believe that in certain parts of America, people have started
> >>> to mate with vegetables.
>
> >> Vegetables grow in England, too, ya know?
>
> > In the deep South, the kudzu will mate with YOU if you stand still
> > too long during the growing season. It might (or not) explain some
> > things.
>
> > --Damon
>
> Am I wrong, or does a lot of this thread have to do
> with a basic earthquake report?
>
> If so,, what the #*&%^*#&#^????
I came across sci.geo.earthquakes when the group was more or less
abandoned by decent experts. One or two still take the time to pop in
here from time to time. But it had been taken over by people with
broken minds.
Not that dissimilar to mine.
I too had an idea and the nature to take on the last bastion of
defenders of the faith -who transmogrified into the trolls the last
vestiges of which are Skywise.
Since then, most have seen the error of their ways and gone on to
pasteurs knew. Cleansed, one imagines, of all appurtenances of idiocy.
Skywise has his own venue. He even gulls would be genii to his web,
there to offer example of "their" silliness for all to see.
(I said the posters on here had cracked minds.)
Later I came across a largely defunct group called alt.talk.weather
and supposed that before Google stopped supporting it, I might take it
over. Once in a while innocents, such as yourself, come here to ask
sensible questions.
I used to point them to better places but then, lately, I thought: Why
bother? If they found this place they can find others.
If you want to know what I am posting about and can't be asked reading
my posts, or asking me directly, you won't get too far, is all I can
assure you.
I can't assure you I would be nice to you if you did actually follow
nicer protocols. But it is a suggestion that you might bear in mind
for real life situations.
You can get useful information from either end of an horse if you know
what to look for. If you are satisfied with shit...
(No offense intended to Mr Hill. This particular branch is not a
fruitful part of the tree. Which is not to claim it is sterile.)
Weatherlawyer
And so we get another storm:
ACTIVE STORMS
Ike (Atlantic)
Sinlaku (West Pacific)
16W (West Pacific)
Lowell (East Pacific
16W isn't likely to grow greater than 30 knots though.
Over here it was a wet night but looks like it could get to be a nice
spell if it holds out. Which may be wishful thinking but the day was
nice.
Here's hoping.
Fievel Mousekewitz Sr (Not A CT'er)
news:hp0yk.624$t_1...@newsfe30.ams2...
> "Fievel Mousekewitz Sr \(Not A CT'er\)" <dlwstr...@comcast.net> wrote
> in
> news:NqudnU0OJ7lJxVXV...@comcast.com:
>
>> Am I wrong, or does a lot of this thread have to do
>> with a basic earthquake report?
>>
>> If so,, what the #*&%^*#&#^????
>
> Actually, the McNut seems to think there's a link between the
> weather and earthquakes, so he's polluting both our groups.
Then asked myeelf all over again..
Say what?
I don't even think it would effect weather if
it caused a Tsunami right underneath a hurricane.
It would just add to the damage the hurricane
would cause.
Where is Ike anyway, I guess I'm going to surf to
to go and find him...
Fievel.. Dennis E Strausser Jr (D)
Skywise
a6fa-e22...@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com:
> I came across sci.geo.earthquakes when the group was more or less
> abandoned by decent experts. One or two still take the time to pop in
> here from time to time.
Yeah. The decent posters left because of nuts like you
driving down down the S/N ratio.
> But it had been taken over by people with
> broken minds.
Like you?
> Not that dissimilar to mine.
You said it.
> I too had an idea and the nature to take on the last bastion of
> defenders of the faith -who transmogrified into the trolls the last
> vestiges of which are Skywise.
Moi? A troll?? hahahahahahah!!!! Hell.. I've been called worse
for pointing out the facts.
> Since then, most have seen the error of their ways and gone on to
> pasteurs knew. Cleansed, one imagines, of all appurtenances of idiocy.
No. They got tired of crap like yours.
> Skywise has his own venue. He even gulls would be genii to his web,
> there to offer example of "their" silliness for all to see.
>
> (I said the posters on here had cracked minds.)
What is your obsession with crack?
> Later I came across a largely defunct group called alt.talk.weather
> and supposed that before Google stopped supporting it, I might take it
> over.
Yep. "Take over" with your nonsensical BS.
> Once in a while innocents, such as yourself, come here to ask
> sensible questions.
And you drive them away never to return.
> I used to point them to better places but then, lately, I thought: Why
> bother? If they found this place they can find others.
So obviously you care nothing of the quality of discussion in
these groups. You think you own them or something?
> If you want to know what I am posting about and can't be asked reading
> my posts, or asking me directly, you won't get too far, is all I can
> assure you.
Even when asked you just spout more nonsensical BS. You don't
exactly have a track record of anwering peoples questions with
something other than more irrellevant crap.
> I can't assure you I would be nice to you if you did actually follow
> nicer protocols. But it is a suggestion that you might bear in mind
> for real life situations.
So in other words, you are admitting you're trying to fuck up these
groups?
> You can get useful information from either end of an horse if you know
> what to look for. If you are satisfied with shit...
They get plenty of it from you.
To give folks an idea of how much McNut has polluted sci.geo.earthquake,
I used to be the top poster according to Google's stats. Not that I
really care about that. I was quite surprised to learn I held the
rank. But then this nut comes along and has managed to take the top
post in short order. And all of it with a bunch of meaningless ramblings
piled on top of each other. Ever notice how he keeps talking to himself?
The sound of his own voice must sooth him. Poor soul.
Fievel Mousekewitz Sr (Not A CT'er)
Or we might have to wait for the cool down.
Which if the brief news I saw is right about it.
It will pretty much happen like last time.
The Atlantic ocean will experience a sudden cooldown.
It will freez everything between Europe and America in
the northorn hemisphere. But only the Atlantic ocean will
get the effects of the freez.
The Pacific ocean side will not freez.
Eveeryone will experience colder weather then normal.
But it probably won't be a global freez.
It's the same thing that happened 5 times already.
We just rushed it with pumping all the crap into the air.
I just wish I didn't live in the region that'll be hardest hit.
Boo hoo,,..
The full freez-up, won't happen till that rock hits us in the next
few hundred years. By then, we might have the technology
to blast it to pieces.
Most of us will last through this next ice-age.
Keep watching the skis everyone..
Fievel.
Weatherlawyer
The several ghosts in the machine that threw me off a day or so back
turned up as more storms. Ah the wonders of mass communications. I
wonder that the wisdom of Solomon prevailed against religious
strictures in his day.
No wonder he left the straight and narrow to go exploring.
Ike appears to be headed along the same track as its immediate
predecessor. This spell has proven similar enough (though somewhat
less closely matched up here in the UK) to the last one (as I stated
it would be) to allow me to prognosticate that:
Ike will fill the hinterland as far as the Rockies and the Canadian
border before being swept east in the normal run of things.
Last week an High developed over the Great Lakes pushing the remnants
of (I forget which) previous hurricane out of the country via the
Carolinas.
Which egress served along with the broaching of yet another storm, to
induce several quakes in the places alluded to in previous forecasts.
Ike and a contemporary would do the same. In the absence of another
storm broaching just as Ike is leaving, we will see something else of
interest. Of this there is no doubt.
Meanwhile the Low that was threatening Ireland and points east, has
now gone to Iceland which means we will have nice weather today. Pity
the ground is too wet to induce me out and plant the daffs I bought
weeks ago.
I had to buy them then even though the forecasts were for rain, as
they only appear on the market for a short while. The supermarket
stores them in a brightly lit section of the floor at 21 degrees
centigrade. Hardly conducive to letting them lie to see if the weather
improves.
Which I sort of knew it wouldn't -so why did I by the bloody things?
Well a body may hope may he not?
Weatherlawyer
Atlantic Westerlies.
They tend to stall at Iceland and / or disperse at the Baltic or go
North along Norway. Usually when stalled at the Baltic, the spell
changes and the low dissipates.
These present spells see the lows joining up at the Iceland sticking
place. They will likely drop back down to Britain where the first one
was. It is interesting to watch them rotate and to fan out afterwards.
That is, after flooding the country.
Usually when they reach Iceland there is no coming back. Sometimes
they come back from the graveyard as this one did. Something to bear
in mind for spells at 02:00, 08:00; 14:00 and 20:00.
Look out for earthquakes of Magnitude 6 and more too.
Speaking of which, the last one was a 5.1 M. on the 11th @ 22:35 near
Hokkaido, Japan. 14 and more hours ago. 15 hours rings a bell. 18 is
for a cigar.
Now then, where is Vancouvre Island?
Weatherlawyer
> > > > > > > > > > > > Floods ensued.
> > > > > > > It's annoying though.
> > > > > That's the sequence
> > > Here's hoping.
> Atlantic Westerlies.
Blast, forgot to mention that in keeping with an acoustic explanation
for things geophysic; the Highs which had been massed above the
Rockies are now on their way to the great lakes.
Grate or wot?
5.1 M. 11th @ 17:12. TARAPACA, CHILE. 19.7S. 69.0 W
5.0 M. 11th @ 04:01. HOKKAIDO, JAPAN 42.0N. 143.7E.
13 hours and 140 degrees apart. Got to try and remember that Chile and
Japanese disconnection.
And those N Atlantic Lows have split up once more. Interesting but....
confused.
Skywise
news:pJWdncurY7rralTV...@comcast.com:
> Hope? Maybe he might eventually go away.
Going on four years.....
Weatherlawyer
Lowell (East Pacific)
The actual number of huuricane strength storms that have the same
definitions as hurricanes or typhoons is non-existent at the moment
with Ike and etc broaching.
So now it is a matter of weight and sea.
Problems with my computer ensued as is the norm when geophysics goes
critical. This time it was router trouble. The office was closed so I
couldn't get help tll gone 08:00. And it took a fair bit of shuffling
to clear the clock on my modem.
I even managed to get a flat tyre on my bicycle. Not sure how the god
of the underground managed that.
Lots of pairing on here: >
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
And as far as the North Atlantic is concerned, the difference with
this spell and the previous one is that last week the spell was
negative anomaly with the Lows low and the Highs low too.
This week the Lows are high and the Highs are high too. So is that a
positive or negative anomaly?
The North Atlantic Oscillation:
This is a phenomenon that is assumed classically by the average
temperature over the winter months.
Weatherlawyer has his own rules for that though.
With me the pressure systems dictate the condition.
When the Lows are low and the Highs are high, that is a positive
condition. It is by far the most common one. And is related to the
weather we know and love. Lows come out of North America via
Newfoundland and cross the Atlantic almost straighrt across the 60
degree parallel.
With high Lows and low Highs the situation is totally different. the
weather lacks intensity, pressures hover around 1010 to 1020 with the
1016 mb forming an ellipse just off the coasts of Europe and North
America.
Usually when this occurs, tropical storms move directly north and go
into the Arctic to the east of Iceland. Newfoundland Lows go into the
Arctic over Greenland. Look out for increased volcanic eruptions.
With these spells (and I assume the time of the phase in all of them
is 2 and 8 o'clock am and pm) the Lows are high while the Highs are
also high or the Lows are low and the highs are low too.
Look out for tropical storms with a mixture of high and low
intensities one after the other in that sequence.
The ones that hit North America may travel up along the east of the
rockies filling the great plains and pushing high pressure regions
north to the Great Lakes. When the system drains into the sea there
are increases in the
activity of seismicity at the western fault zones.
Blocking Lows. In fluid mechanics these are "singularities", IIRC. I
believe the meteorological expression is much the same.
It remains to be seen what differences the NAO shows with these two
spells. Last week it was Andreanof Island quakes along with an
increase in other west coat region quakes.
So called fault zones. Mascon margins more likely.
Weatherlawyer
> > > > > > > of earthquake epicentres. Which lends itself to a theory about
> > > > > > > clarifying the movements of storm tracks.
No!
I should have bothered to work out the distances involved.
A defgee is (IIRC) about 70 miles so a distance between two fairly
near quake locations of 3 or 4 degrees is some 2 to 3 hundred miles,
which represents several days travel for a storm moving at 10 miles an
hour.
However in Britain the effects felt from the approach of a low are
likely to occur within a few hours of each other though several
hundred miles apart.
Whilst the centre of a Low remains fairly stationary the fronts that
they send out can sweep around the clock very quickly.
The reaon ios that this is the way that atmospheres work. Hot air
rises over colder and the fronts rotates sweeping out the regional
temperature like a wiper blade.
JUst what is going on has never been deeply examined. How could it be.
The tools of the meteorologist ar the temperature measures, rain
gauges and barometers. They don't even regard the water table.
What is needed is a measure of the sound of the atmosphere. Something
along the lines of what the HAARP people use: >
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/
Pity!
It will never be implemented in my lifetime.
> > > > > > > So if we can use the above information to correct that bit, computed
> > > > > > > weather models will improve dramatically.
>
> > > > > > > Which brings me to another problem I have been mulling over for the
> > > > > > > last few days.
>
> > > > > > The N Atlantic chart is interesting: >http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/weather/Dorridge.htm
>
> > > > > > Last week a bunch of Lows gathered off the coast and rotated as they
> > > > > > elongated over the UK, eventually ending up south of the Isles and
> > > > > > running through via Sea Area: Shannon. Always a bad sign.
>
> > > > > > Floods ensued.
>
> > > > > Over in the Americas, Ike is now a mere hurricane heading for Texas,
> > > > > more stirrings due in the Adreanof Islands by the look of things.
>
> > > > Now we will see something from this spell that will explain the 6 hour
> > > > difference in the spell.
Last week's spell the Highs were low and the Lows fairly high. The
obverse of the coin in play is the case at the mo.
> > > Sinlaku
> > > 9th = 90k
> > > 10th = 105k
> > > 11th = 120k
> > > 12th =1115k
>
> > > It was 70 knots a few hours back. It seems to have followed the clock
> > > on this one:
> > > 6.1 M. 09th @ 12:23. -9.3; 158.3. SOLOMON ISLANDS
>
> > 5.5 10th @ 03:00 2.5 96.3 Simeulue, Indonesia
> > 5.2 10th @ 01:28 30.9 83.4 Western Xizang
> > 5.0 10th @ 01:15 30.8 83.5 Western Xizang
> > 5.1 10th @ 00:19 2.5 96.2 Simeulue, Indonesia
> > 5.6 09th @ 23:18 -11.8 166.5 Santa Cruz Islands
> > 6.1 09th @ 12:23 -9.3 158.3 Solomon Islands
>
> > So the bottom 2 quakes signal a cease and desist as well as an
> > increase in intensity. I think that's fairly safe to say both Ike and
> > the new one are involved there.
>
> > New one on me though (thus new to the world as far as I know.)
>
> > The Chinese ones signal the end of Ike as a major player until it
> > fills the playground up to the Rockies and decides to go home. It will
> > be interesting to see if it works in concert with any other storms by
> > the time it or they get to the Carolinas.
>
> > Which just leaves us the 2 Indonesian ones. I can't say. But would the
> > pair be a pairing similar to the others? (The locations of the first
> > two being pretty close.)
>
> There is a lot of activity along the lines of one of Shakespeare's
> plays. It may be much ado about nothing or it might be a well matched
> distraining pair. But I think that the Santa Cruz Islands and the
> Solomon Islands count as the same place.
>
> If they are a close match and the distance apart chronologically
> counts for anything, then this is a clue to the disposition of and
> probable intensity of tropical storms.
>
> It could tell us where and what. The when will be obvious according to
> the weather forecast some 3 to 5 days prior.
>
> Which lends itself to the forecasting of...
> damn... lost the thread.
>
> No matter, it will return if it is worth knowing. And I will have lost
> nothing if it was worth nothing.
>
> It's annoying though.
>
> Meanwhile over in the North Atlantic, the gathering:
> http://www.cuckney.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/weather/Dorridge.htm
>
> Something to do with a thought I had decades ago, that weather
> forecasts might foretell earthquakes.
>
> Why did it not click? What eludes me?
No idea what I was thinking about at the time but this was something
running parallel:
I am pretty certain that the "Thickness" of the upper atmosphere is a
major clue holder. I expect it is in fact the channel for the
acoustics involved. I can't see them putting audio on weather balloons
though.
Weatherlawyer
It's been a glorious day here, quite in keeping with the distance of
the Low I have been watching but not in keeping with the one over the
UK earlier.
It's all rather tempting to insist the spell is anticyclonic in lieu
of tropical storms of hurricane intensity and above.
Except that the last earthquake today was around 9:30 am this morning:
13th @ 09:32 COLOMBIA (5.7M.)
Which indicates an increase of severity in a storm now in existence,
or there is another on its way. Or something else I have yet to
consider such as tornadic stuff as would be expected with the storm
Ike. Or a volcanic eruption?
Check this space tomorrow.
That's all for tonight, folks.
Weatherlawyer
Misty morning, an unforseen phenomenon that I once stated went hand in
glove with tropical storms. They certainly did for the hurricane
season of 2005.
2008/09/
6.0 M. 14th @ 00:00 EAST TIMOR REGION
5.7 M. 13th @ 09:32 COLOMBIA
(Nothing since the East Timor one, 7 hours ago, less the 2 hours or
so analyis.)
Ike has run out to the Great lakes where instead of the predicted
Highs the pressure is low. Ike is a Stream that extends north from
Luisiana to the Canadian border where it runs straight into the sea.
17 Tornado reports (Looks like 9 or 10 tornadoes) >
http://www.spc.noaa.gov/climo/reports/080912_rpts.html
There is a new depression marked on > http://www.hurricanezone.net/
Pearl Harbour has this to say about the once super-typhoon:
Remarks:
140300z Position Near 24.8n 121.9e.
Typhoon (Ty) 15w (Sinlaku), Located Approximately 35 Nm Southeast Of
Taipei, Taiwan Has Been Quasi-stationary Over The Past Six Hours.
Maximum Significant Wave Height At 140000z Is 30 Feet. Next
Warnings At 140900z, 141500z, 142100z And 150300z. Refer To
Tropical Depression 17w (Seventeen) Warnings (Wtpn32 Pgtw) For
Six-hourly Updates
It is interesting that the storm paused and that Ike too did much the
same thing. I wonder what can be made of that? It occurred along with
the change in the weather over here. Worth looking at next time I
think. If I remember.
Ike didn't waste much time after going ashore.
Hardly a General Lucas
On the 15th of September the new spell is in Britain at least a spell
for thundery flash floods:
Sep 15 09:13 >
http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/phase/phase2001gmt.html
So what the North Americans are seeing now is a move to that new
phase.
All very interesting, if I may say so.
Weatherlawyer
TD 17W looks to be in the frame but if I could, I'd bet on tornadoes
in the USA. Might get a Mag 7 somewhere too since the end of the spell
is in the air -or not, as it were.
With an anticyclone over Scandinavia and a not very low Low in the
region of Iceland warm air is making Britain a very nice place for a
walk in the countryside for a change. Developments there will also
prove interesting.
Unfortunately the weather in Britain this year has been disastrous for
many wheat growers and certain other crops. Some brassicas have done
well though, beets for example.
Wheat dryers cost some £80 an hour to run, that's on agricultural
fuel. Red diesel is very low tax for instance. But still hardly cheap
to do what was once done for free by the sun.
The crops lying in the fields are in the way of the next crop.
Mind one, it is a valid point that ancient agricultural practice was
far less intensive and employed rotations in which the land lay
undisturbed one in so many years.
Perhaps this year, world wide, the lands are paying their Sabbath.
Weatherlawyer
> TD 17W looks to be in the frame but if I could, I'd bet on tornadoes
> in the USA. Might get a Mag 7 somewhere too since the end of the spell
> is in the air -or not, as it were.
5.1 M. 14th @ 18:51 Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia
So it will be another intense whatever it turns out to be then.
Nearly 19 hours. Not tornadoes by the look of it.
The sites are fairly close together:
7.5 S. 128.2 E.
8.7 S. 126.8 E.
So that means...
I have no idea.
I'm missing something terribly important here. Something I should have
paid more attention to, perhaps. Something only recently noticed. I
thought I'd have more time to cogitate upon it.
Weatherlawyer
Moved
When the intensity of an earthquake is due to increase by enough
magnitude to take it into the very critical realms of geophysic's
fluid mechanics, the time between the dangerous quake and the last
quake of magnitude 5 or over is quite a long period:
6.3 M. 2008/09/03 @ 11:25 Santiago Del Estero, Argentina
5.4 M. 2008/09/02 @ 20:01 Tonga
>
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/qed/
So the next major quake is going to be a big one too:
5.1 M. 2008/09/14 @ 18:51 Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia
What are the chances that it will be on a great circle some 140
degrees to that place in Indonesia?
That is just on the shadow zone. So it could be 100 degrees just as
likely. (The shadow zone is anywhere from about 105 to 135 degrees
from the epicentre.)
A 100 degree ark from Kepulauan Barat Daya, Indonesia runs from Cape
Town through Rhodes to Juneau , Alaska . Past Pitcairn Island and the
far side of Antarctica.
A 140 degree arc cuts Chile just north of Valparaiso, Montevideo,
Buenos Aries; New Orleans or where that once great city used to be in
the Discordant States; Just east of Cape Race, Newfoundland (wait till
Ike gets there) and Grand Canaria to Monrovia, West Africa
If I get anywhere near with either of those arcs I will consider it as
time I woke up rather than anything of great note.
The only problem is that I am not getting any joint pain but I am
getting leg cramps, so I still think it will be tornadic in nature.
Weatherlawyer
5.2 2008/09/15 05:41:48 51.345 -178.289 49.3 ANDREANOF
ISLANDS, ALEUTIAN IS., ALASKA
Boy, that was a lot of work for no pay.
Weatherlawyer
But those circles are worth bearing in mind: >
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsww/Maps/10/295_-25.php
I wouldn't book an holiday to experience one on the strength of it but
it did turn up something of interest.
Well, that was a great run out. We all must do this again sometime. I
want to thank you all for your input. The insights were fascinating.