A Bad Week for Corporate Spies
Ilena Rose
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
security backgrounds."
(more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Stephen-Barrett
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
Navy background, ACSH.org advisor, a corporate funded PR group
Calls himself "The Media." Sue happy, has a history of losing SLAPP
and SLAPP style lawsuits to activists (fluoride, breast implant,
vaccination awareness activists all) while waging enormous smear
campaign assaults with others on this list.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Mark-Probert
www.BreastImplantawareness.org/PropagandistProbert.html
Army background ... disbarred attorney ... loves disguises ...
viscious attacks to same targets as Barrett / Quackwatch. Promotes
vaccination industry propaganda.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer
www.BreastImplantawareness.org/LangerVsIlena.htm
Government & Corporations are his business ... one of the most
prolific of the Pro-Neo Con propagandists spreading their agenda that
lead to the disaster of invading and occupying Iraq. Organized
industry friendly 'support group leaders' in silicone cause & worked
with them to walk both sides of the aisle: friendly & non critical of
industry AND appear to 'support' to women harmed by implants.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Coleah.htm
Viet Nam was her glory days ... worked closely with Langer doing
corporate / government PR to lead to War ... works closely with
silicone manufacturer, Patrick O'leary, and the Snake-oil Team.
VA & IRS background. Loves stealth. Corporate apologist.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Myrl.html
Not military like the above team ... but loves disguises and able to
talk out of both sides of her mouth. Fully supports all listed above.
Uses tactics of blaming others for doing what she is doing.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quackwatch 'Guerrilla' Tactics
Quoth Stephen J. Barrett, writing in AMA News on August 25, 1975,
describing the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud:
"By working "undercover" using assumed names and box numbers, we've
gotten all sorts of information and publications other groups, like
the medical societies, haven't been able to lay their hands on.
...Really, we're a bunch of guerrillas - we're not a large group,
there are about 40 members, but we're the only such group in the
country."
~~~~~~~~~
More on this story here:
Citizen Jimserac
> Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Thank you for exposing these people.
Public reaction against the "do anything you want" attitude
of the Bush administration towards its corporatista friends
has now already begun to rise in anger, not only at the outrageous
corporate salaries at the top and the exclusion of minority
shareholder interests at meetings, but also at the domineering
attitudes of the corporatista which sees itself as beyond reproach,
beyond criticism, beyond accountability.
That such is NOT the case will be made clear after the November
elections when the FULL WRATH of the American people is unleashed
against these kinds of notions.
Again, many thanks for your informative links and postings.
Citizen Jimserac
Coleah
> On Apr 16, 12:36 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
>
> > Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
> > Jeffcoat:
>
> > EXCERPT:
> > The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
> > scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
> > spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
> > security backgrounds."
> > (more here)http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
>
> >www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
>
> > Navy background, ACSH.org advisor, a corporate funded PR group
> > Calls himself "The Media." Sue happy, has a history of losing SLAPP
> > and SLAPP style lawsuits to activists (fluoride, breast implant,
> > vaccination awareness activists all) while waging enormous smear
> > campaign assaults with others on this list.www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
>
> > Army background ... disbarred attorney ... loves disguises ...
> > viscious attacks to same targets as Barrett / Quackwatch. Promotes
> > vaccination industry propaganda.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
You, "Citizen Jimserac" are very easily lead around by the nose if you
believe half of Ilena Rosenthal's (winky, winky) opinions as being
gospel 'fact'.
Apparently your agenda here has something to do with elections and
politics??? Frankly that has nothing to do me, nor do I have a vested
interest in it. If you suck into Ilena Rosenthal's painting of people
that easily, your family may want to look into a conservator because
of your gross naivity condition.
Have a perfectly lovely day and may you be spared from a space alien
invasion.
Citizen Jimserac
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> believe half of Ilena Rosenthal's (winky, winky) opinions as being
> gospel 'fact'.
>
> Apparently your agenda here has something to do with elections and
> politics??? Frankly that has nothing to do me, nor do I have a vested
> interest in it. If you suck into Ilena Rosenthal's painting of people
> that easily, your family may want to look into a conservator because
> of your gross naivity condition.
>
> Have a perfectly lovely day and may you be spared from a space alien
> invasion.
Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported
on the web and in the news media. The Journal of the American Medical
Association is asking that researchers disclose their financial
renumeration when publishing research. It would seem that in the
testing of Vioxx, a recalled drug which caused enormous harm, various
deleterious effects revealed in the tests were discounted, suppressed
or otherwise ignored while positive results were emphasized. IN
addition, JAMA suggest that pharmaceutical companies stop financing
the drug "education" courses required to be taken by some physicians
to maintain their certification.
I'd say news like that indicates that it is the pharmaceutical and
other health industries that seem to be doing the ... winky winky.
Citizen Jimserac
Coleah
>
> - Show quoted text -
What is your job in the anti-health industry?
Ilena Rose
ever heard one!
Coleah Penley Ayers queries:
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm
"What is your job in the anti-health industry? "
Thanks Coleah ... it's as if you are straight out of the "Ministry of
Truth" from 1984!
~~~~~~~~~~~~
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
(see their list below, on the internet from 2000-2007, then totally
removed.)
Since Barrett, Polevoy, and Grell SLAPP sued me in early 2001, and
ultimately lost to me in the Superior Court, the Appeals Court, and
the Supreme Court of California ...
Various Snake-oil Posse Members have taken their turn "at the bat"
harassing me ... this week it's apparently Andrew Kingoff in the spot
light.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Kingoff
Since they still have a $311K outstanding bill for attorneys fees, and
have had around $170,000 paid out so far, they attacks are even viler.
People on the list that I had never heard of nor had any communiation
with whatsoever, have made careers out of trying to harm my reputation
and rewrite history to make the 3 losing plaintiffs the "victims" ...
and I the evildoer.
The courts all said otherwise.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/BarrettVsRosenthal.htm
Head of the Healthfrauds, Robert S Baratz, send out a massive emailing
falsely claiming that Barrett had lost to me on a 'technicality.'
This is blatantly false ... (as is much of the disinformation he
manufacturers and markets) ... and repeated on Wiki, Usenet and
various Blogs by several of the named members below.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWAtch.htm#Baratz
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Robert-Baratz
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Peter-Bowditch
I just found some 'correspondence' from a Snake-oil Member named John
Stone (describes his profession as 'oppositon') sending my attorneys
and others working on my case, hate letters about me and love letters
about the plaintiffs ... never mentioning his relationship with them.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#John-Stone
The only way I ever had any connection with this Snake-oil Posse
Member, was reading his losing plaintiff propaganda and his name with
Barrett's on their list.
I am in celebration of life mode right now ... as the minutes are
ticking toward my 60th birthday.
If Kingoff continues his blatant attacks, which include highjacking
threads of mine and changing the names to harassing titles against me
... I will be reposting this as a reminder. He also has a penchant for
taking his words which I claim are false, and fiddling with the lines
and lying to readers that I was the author of his lies.
Educated idiots. Pure "Ministry of Truth" out of 1984.
Remember when Stephen Barrett bragged that he was "the media."
http://www.orwelltoday.com/truth.shtml
Exactly.
The Ministsry of Truth concerned itself with Lies. Party ownership of
the print media made it easy to manipulate public opinion, and the
film and radio carried the process further.
The primary job of the Ministry of Truth was to supply the citizens of
Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen programmes,
plays, novels - with every conceivable kind of information,
instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to a slogan, from a lyric
poem to a biological treatise, and from a child's spelling-book to a
Newspeak dictionary.
If any of you wish to see the tactics used by Barrett and Team ...
watch Zeitgeist.
With love from Ilena
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/
http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Health Lover
http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/snake-oil.htm
There are several people who have joined this team's internet
interactions who are not listed ... two of them using aliases have
recently had their masks removed. One quit Wikipedia immediately ...
Snake-oil Team
Peter Bowditch
Woofie Pearson
Robert Baratz
Mattias Haglund
Bernard Morey
Mark Lowry
Christopher Brown
Andrew Langer
Mark Thorson
Willa Nidiffer
David Wright
Rich Andrews Rosalind Dalefield
David Green
TD Laing
Cindy Province
Paul Lee
John Stone
Janice Lyons
James Laidler
Mark Probert
Rich Shewmaker
David Gorski
Andrew Kingoff
Honorary Members
These are people who aren't in the list above but who have been named
in Nuremberg 2001, the court case against members of "one of the most
evil, and vicious, organizations ever to stalk Planet Earth's
Families"
Stephen Barrett
Judith Barrett
Terry Polevoy
Christopher Grell
Rebecca Long
Rebekah Johnson
Aron Primack
Peter W. Pappas
Joseph Pizzorno
William T. Jarvis Tim Gorski
Bill Ross
Monica Pignotti
Michael McNeil
Paul Hilling
Paul Smith
Esther Figueroa
J
V-for-Vendicar
"Citizen Jimserac" <Jims...@gmail.com> wrote
> Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported
> on the web and in the news media. The Journal of the American Medical
> Association is asking that researchers disclose their financial
> renumeration when publishing research. It would seem that in the
> testing of Vioxx, a recalled drug which caused enormous harm, various
> deleterious effects revealed in the tests were discounted, suppressed
> or otherwise ignored while positive results were emphasized.
What you should realize is that through the 80's and 90's, the FDA was
pressured by NeoKKKonservativs to reduce the amount and quality of testing
of new drugs. The argument was that the slow rate of testing was holding
back chemi-medical progress.
So the FDA was ordered by RepubliKKKans when the came into power to do
what the NeoKKKonservatives demanded.
And as a result, there are a zillion new knock off drugs on the market
that are no better - or worse than the tried and true medications, and these
and other new medications get through the (now lax) FDA screening process
without the side effects being properly identified and examined.
Every VIOXX DEATH is the result of KKKonservative Politics.
PeterB
Hi Ilena,
Do you know if Rosalind is still working the ng?
Jan Drew
"V-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
news:n5UNj.51931$612....@read1.cgocable.net...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6192603/
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/vioxx_estimates.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/15/AR2008041502086.html?hpid=sec-health
Ilena Rose
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
security backgrounds."
(more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Stephen-Barrett
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
Navy background, ACSH.org advisor, a corporate funded PR group
Calls himself "The Media." Sue happy, has a history of losing SLAPP
and SLAPP style lawsuits to activists (fluoride, breast implant,
vaccination awareness activists all) while waging enormous smear
campaign assaults with others on this list.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Mark-Probert
www.BreastImplantawareness.org/PropagandistProbert.html
Army background ... disbarred attorney ... loves disguises ...
viscious attacks to same targets as Barrett / Quackwatch. Promotes
vaccination industry propaganda.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer
www.BreastImplantawareness.org/LangerVsIlena.htm
Ilena Rose
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
security backgrounds."
(more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer
Greegor
>
> Quoth Stephen J. Barrett, writing in AMA News on August 25, 1975,
> describing the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud:
>
> "By working "undercover" using assumed names and box numbers, we've
> gotten all sorts of information and publications other groups, like
> the medical societies, haven't been able to lay their hands on.
>
> ...Really, we're a bunch of guerrillas - we're not a large group,
> there are about 40 members, but we're the only such group in the
> country."
http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
A Bad Week for Corporate Spies
Submitted by Diane Farsetta on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 15:46.
If Cara Schaffer contacts you, be wary. Take emails and online
comments from "activist2008" and "stopcorporategreed" with a grain of
salt. Londoners, be on the lookout for Toby Kendall, a.k.a. "Ken
Tobias." And activists everywhere should think twice before putting
documents in the recycling or trash bins.
Over the past week, reporters and activists outed three different
corporate spying operations. As John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton wrote
in their 1995 book "Toxic Sludge Is Good for You!": "Movements for
social and political reform have often become targets of
surveillance. ... The public relations industry has developed a
lucrative side business scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of
citizen activists, using paid spies who are often recruited from
government, military or private security backgrounds."
Last week's revelations show that these underhanded tactics are very
much in use today. And they don't just impact the groups being
infiltrated. By privileging corporate interests, effectively giving
them the first and last word on an issue, they distort vital public
debates.
Picking on the Pickers
The Florida-based Coalition of Immokalee Workers (CIW) advocates for
better working conditions and fairer pay for the state's low-wage
farmworkers. The plight of many tomato pickers is so dire that it's
attracted the attention of the U.S. Senate Committee on Health,
Education, Labor, and Pensions, which invited CIW's co-founder to
testify at a hearing this week.
CIW has won two high-profile campaigns, convincing Taco Bell and
McDonald's to pay tomato pickers one penny more per pound. These
victories did not come easily. McDonald's resisted by joining the less-
than-independent "Socially Accountable Farm Employer" program and
pressuring a labor researcher to release a preliminary, error-filled
report on tomato picker wages, as the Center for Media and Democracy
reported previously.
CIW action outside Burger King headquartersCIW is now petitioning
Burger King to give the same penny-a-pound raise. The fast feeder
refused, and CIW began being "vilified online and in e-mails that can
be traced to the Miami headquarters of Burger King," reports the Fort
Myers News-Press. The emails and comments were posted under the names
"activist2008" and "stopcorporategreed."
Then a college student started taking a strange interest in CIW
conference calls. Cara Shaffer contacted a student group allied with
CIW and said she wanted to start a farmworker alliance group on her
campus. But Shaffer isn't the student she claimed to be. She heads
Diplomatic Tactical Services, a Florida-based security firm that
offers such "labor relations" services as "covert surveillance" and
"undercover operations."
Shaffer has refused to explain her involvement with CIW. A Burger King
spokesperson "says he knows nothing about any Burger King effort to
spy on the Immokalee groups," reports the News-Press. The not-so-slick
spokesperson added, "I have no idea what should be secret about
helping farmworkers."
In Plane Sight
The London-based group "Plane Stupid" campaigns against airport
expansions, out of concern at airplanes' significant greenhouse gas
emissions.
"After last year's Camp for Climate Action, new activists began
turning up to London Plane Stupid meetings," recounts the group's
website. "Most were perfectly normal people angry at the expansion of
Heathrow airport. But one newbie didn't fit in with the rest -- Ken
Tobias."
To test their suspicions, the group gave Tobias false information.
When the aviation industry responded and newspapers reported on "the
ludicrous idea of a Climate Camp in Hyde Park," Plane Stupid knew they
were being spied on. Soon after, they were able to identify "Ken
Tobias" as Toby Kendall, an employee of the "risk management" firm C2i
International.
C2i's website "puts 'aerospace' at the top of a list of industries for
which it works," notes the London Times. Heathrow's owner, BAA, said
it "had no contact with the named individuals but was subject to an
unsolicited pitch by C2i. We rejected their invitation to enter into
an arrangement with them."
Trashing the Greens
From 1995 to 2001, the Maryland-based firm Beckett Brown International
(BBI) offered a range of security and intelligence services to
government and corporate clients. BBI frequently "produced
intelligence reports for public relations firms and major corporations
involved in environmental controversies," reports Mother Jones
magazine.
BBI's insider information greatly helped the Ketchum, Nichols-
Dezenhall, and Mongoven, Biscoe & Duchin firms defend their
environmentally-challenged clients. In a September 2000 email, one BBI
employee wrote, "Received a call from Ketchum yesterday afternoon. ...
It seems Taco Bell turned out some product made from bioengineered
corn. The chemicals used on the corn have not been approved for human
consumption."
On behalf of Kraft, Ketchum asked BBI for "pre release information"
about environmental groups' response to the "glow-in-the-dark taco"
news. BBI immediately began planning to go through the trash of three
activist groups fingered by Ketchum: the Center for Food Safety,
Friends of the Earth and GE Food Alert. BBI had previously provided
Ketchum with information about a private strategy session involving 35
environmental groups, as well as reports on "tightly held" plans for
future Greenpeace campaigns.
BBI frequently used dumpster-diving to collect information -- at least
once against progressive PR firm Fenton Communcations, which counts
environmental groups among its clients. In December 1999, a BBI
employee staked out David Fenton's home, noting "the time of the
morning garbage pick-up and that he returned to the office to 'sort
material' and 'analyze,'" according to Mother Jones.
Fair Play
While BBI (later called S2i) no longer exists, its principals
currently work for at least three other security firms: Chesapeake
Strategies, the Annapolis Group and Global Security Services. And
corporate espionage continues, as the Plane Stupid and CIW incidents
show.
"Inside information gives companies a strategic advantage," wrote
Amsterdam-based investigative reporter Eveline Lubbers in the 2002
book "Battling Big Business." Lubbers helped uncover an eight year-
long scam by a Dutch security firm, where one of its employees posed
as an activist. He collected discarded paperwork from at least 30
different activist groups, saying he would sell it to recycling plants
and give the proceeds to charity. Instead, the documents were
carefully reviewed and often used against the groups.
Lubbers has seen corporate spying not only undermine activist
campaigns, but also destroy groups. Even "non-confidential documents
can reveal plenty about a group's activities when combined with other
data," she warned. "Stolen files can give insight into an
organization's goals and its chances of success, information about its
financial position, the size of its following or the strength of its
alliances."
She suggests that activist groups take precautions, like locking file
cabinets and changing computer passwords. It would also help if
companies were held accountable for undermining civil society --
perhaps by having some of their own confidential information made
public.
Diane Farsetta is the Center for Media and Democracy's senior
researcher.
Coleah
> Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
>
> Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
> Jeffcoat:
>
> EXCERPT:
> The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
> scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
> spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
> security backgrounds."
Do YOU really fancy yourself in the very slightest an effectively
important 'activist'?
As self-professed 'terrorizing activist' (pick a subject, any
subject)....I can't see any difference you have made on any
issue......other than make an ass of yourself accusing people of being
whatever evil your troubled mind dreams up. Breast implants went back
on the market, hundreds of thousands of women are still getting them.
What difference did you make? Except to drive a deep wedge between
actual BI women working together.
Certainly, you have not effectively engaged in rational, intelligent
conversations about 'issues'....but I'll give you this: you have
tried being hell on wheels about attacking other human beings.
But an effective activist, sadly you are not.
gposter
Ilena Rose
and Myrl Jeffcoat joined the Snake-oil Vigilantes in a new career of
telling people how unimportant and ineffective I am. You have
highjacked my personal & unique name and used every corporate pr trick
to attempt to make people hate me like those men who hide behind you.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
Of course, you and Myrl are their chosen ... you can claim to
'support' the women ... yet stand up even more strongly for the Dow
Bankrutpcy and the breast implant industry viewpoints. Sadly for the
women, the same PR team, also is paid into by the vaccination
industry.
Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
security backgrounds."
(more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quackwatch 'Guerrilla' Tactics
Quoth Stephen J. Barrett, writing in AMA News on August 25, 1975,
describing the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud:
"By working "undercover" using assumed names and box numbers, we've
gotten all sorts of information and publications other groups, like
the medical societies, haven't been able to lay their hands on.
...Really, we're a bunch of guerrillas - we're not a large group,
there are about 40 members, but we're the only such group in the
country."
~~~~~~~~~
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
> Does this one bother you Roberta?
Why should it?
Coleah
> Yes, Coleah ... we are very well aware of your 'opinion' of me. You
> and Myrl Jeffcoat joined the Snake-oil Vigilantes in a new career of
> telling people how unimportant and ineffective I am. You have
> highjacked my personal & unique name and used every corporate pr trick
> to attempt to make people hate me like those men who hide behind you.www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
For years and years you had your shit-list webpages up on a non-profit
website; and published your most recent hateful 'updates' about your
self-appointed 'Mine Enemies"; various breast implant women you were
supposed to be 'advocating' for.
And you whine about a website with links to your very own words and
documents verifying information as a PR trick to make people 'hate
you'???? People can figure it out themselves. And BTW, it is YOU who
does all this studying about PR crap, which I suspect is why you
imagine everyone else is up to what you are.
> Of course, you and Myrl are their chosen ... you can claim to
> 'support' the women ... yet stand up even more strongly for the Dow
> Bankrutpcy and the breast implant industry viewpoints. Sadly for the
> women, the same PR team, also is paid into by the vaccination
> industry.
Now you are trying to represent Myrl and I as standing up for the Dow
bankruptcy???? Oh you are choice....just choice. And BI industry
'viewpoints' ??? You really are a horses ass with your accusations
and transparent as glass.
More PR team propaganda....... yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Greegor
Myrl
> Now you are trying to represent Myrl and I as standing up for the Dow
> bankruptcy???? Oh you are choice....just choice. And BI industry
> 'viewpoints' ??? You really are a horses ass with your accusations
> and transparent as glass.
It is clear that Ilena Rosenthal cannot tell fantasy from reality!
She really ought to seek help!
Dan Sullivan
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
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Ilena Rose
they even highjack the thread title with their attempt at cover-up.
Myrl
foundation, please visit:
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Read it and weep!
Oliver
Ilena Rosenthal wrote:
> Response from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
> www.ilenarose.blogspot.com
> www.ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/
On the pages cited above, recidivist scammer Ilena Rosenthal says you
can make a
tax-deductible donation to her fraudulent charity "Humantics". If you
like, you can
tell PayPal what you think of their abetting Rosenthal's criminal
activity by
going to this page and clicking on "Site Feedback" at the bottom and
filling in the Comments section.
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_home-general&nav=0
The California Attorney-General and the IRS might take notice as well.
krp
"Dan Sullivan" <dsul...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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IS IRRELEVANT!
Greegor
Did you like this article?
Dan Sullivan
Ilena Rose
they even highjack the thread title with their attempt at cover-up.
dragonsgirl
"Ilena Rose" <B...@mundo.com> wrote in message
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> It's very revealing the corporate spies who are 'protesting so much'
> they even highjack the thread title with their attempt at cover-up.
> Thanks to them for identifying themselves!
Ilena, the only two people who changed the subject of this thread were
gposter and Dan.
That is because the post went to ASCPS, and their changes to the title were
that it was off topic to the child protective group.
Neither of those posters, to the best of my knowledge, have any interest in
breast implants or alternative medicine.
They are both from ASCPS.
Greegor
Coleah
> Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
> Jeffcoat:
Ilena Rose
Sorry Coleah ... you apparently need attention too. By the way, your
good buddy, War Monger Andrew Langer is again writing me personally
... he apparently hasn't gotten over the "strong arm" you and he claim
I used when he approached me ...
For someone who Like Andrew Langer who has a new job that is funded by
money from arms and chemicals ... your close association with him says
plenty!
www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/coleah.htm
www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/coleah-penley-ayers.htm
www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/Andysposse.htm
Andrew Langer working with Coleah & Myrl & Patrick O'leary
www.BreastimplantAwareness.org/SBIPrivateClub.htm
Langer & Penley Ayers working together
Dan Sullivan
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ilena Rose
they even highjack the thread title with their attempt at cover-up.
Thanks to them for identifying themselves!
Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
PeterB
Thanks, Ollie, I took the info and advised PayPal that a group of
smear goons are trying to settle a score with health activist
Rosenthal and should be steadfastly ignored. Say hello to your
sponsors and don't forget to write from prison some day.
Oliver
> It's very revealing the corporate spies who are 'protesting so much'
> they even highjack the thread title with their attempt at cover-up.
> Thanks to them for identifying themselves!
>
> Response from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal:
> www.ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
> www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/
On the pages cited above, serial scammer Ilena Rosenthal says you can
make a
tax-deductible donation to her fraudulent charity "Humantics". If you
like, you can
tell PayPal what you think of their abetting Rosenthal's criminal
activity by sending an
email to nonp...@paypal.com
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
Ilena Rose
they even highjack the thread title with their attempt at cover-up.
Thanks to them for identifying themselves!
Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
security backgrounds."
(more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Andrew-Langer
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Stephen-Barrett
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/QuackWatchWatch.htm
Coleah
> Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
> Jeffcoat:
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
Ilena Rose
they even highjack the thread title with their attempt at cover-up.
Thanks to them for identifying themselves!
Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
Greegor
Dan Sullivan
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Ilena Rose
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
security backgrounds."
(more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm#Stephen-Barrett
Greegor
> Quoth Stephen J. Barrett, writing in AMA News on August 25, 1975,
> describing the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud:
> "By working "undercover" using assumed names and box numbers, we've
> gotten all sorts of information and publications other groups, like
> the medical societies, haven't been able to lay their hands on.
> ...Really, we're a bunch of guerrillas - we're not a large group,
> there are about 40 members, but we're the only such group in the
> country."
http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
A Bad Week for Corporate Spies
Submitted by Diane Farsetta on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 15:46.
If Cara Schaffer contacts you, be wary. Take emails and online
comments from "activist2008" and "stopcorporategreed" with a grain of
salt. Londoners, be on the lookout for Toby Kendall, a.k.a. "Ken
Tobias." And activists everywhere should think twice before putting
documents in the recycling or trash bins.
Over the past week, reporters and activists outed three different
corporate spying operations. As John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton
wrote
in their 1995 book "Toxic Sludge Is Good for You!": "Movements for
social and political reform have often become targets of
surveillance. ... The public relations industry has developed a
lucrative side business scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of
citizen activists, using paid spies who are often recruited from
government, military or private security backgrounds."
Last week's revelations show that these underhanded tactics are very
much in use today. And they don't just impact the groups being
infiltrated. By privileging corporate interests, effectively giving
them the first and last word on an issue, they distort vital public
debates.
Picking on the Pickers
The Florida-based Coalition of Immokalee Workers (CIW) advocates for
better working conditions and fairer pay for the state's low-wage
farmworkers. The plight of many tomato pickers is so dire that it's
attracted the attention of the U.S. Senate Committee on Health,
Education, Labor, and Pensions, which invited CIW's co-founder to
testify at a hearing this week.
CIW has won two high-profile campaigns, convincing Taco Bell and
McDonald's to pay tomato pickers one penny more per pound. These
victories did not come easily. McDonald's resisted by joining the
less-
than-independent "Socially Accountable Farm Employer" program and
pressuring a labor researcher to release a preliminary, error-filled
report on tomato picker wages, as the Center for Media and Democracy
reported previously.
CIW action outside Burger King headquartersCIW is now petitioning
Burger King to give the same penny-a-pound raise. The fast feeder
refused, and CIW began being "vilified online and in e-mails that can
be traced to the Miami headquarters of Burger King," reports the Fort
Myers News-Press. The emails and comments were posted under the names
"activist2008" and "stopcorporategreed."
Then a college student started taking a strange interest in CIW
conference calls. Cara Shaffer contacted a student group allied with
CIW and said she wanted to start a farmworker alliance group on her
campus. But Shaffer isn't the student she claimed to be. She heads
Diplomatic Tactical Services, a Florida-based security firm that
offers such "labor relations" services as "covert surveillance" and
"undercover operations."
Shaffer has refused to explain her involvement with CIW. A Burger
King
spokesperson "says he knows nothing about any Burger King effort to
spy on the Immokalee groups," reports the News-Press. The not-so-
slick
spokesperson added, "I have no idea what should be secret about
helping farmworkers."
In Plane Sight
The London-based group "Plane Stupid" campaigns against airport
expansions, out of concern at airplanes' significant greenhouse gas
emissions.
"After last year's Camp for Climate Action, new activists began
turning up to London Plane Stupid meetings," recounts the group's
website. "Most were perfectly normal people angry at the expansion of
Heathrow airport. But one newbie didn't fit in with the rest -- Ken
Tobias."
To test their suspicions, the group gave Tobias false information.
When the aviation industry responded and newspapers reported on "the
ludicrous idea of a Climate Camp in Hyde Park," Plane Stupid knew
they
were being spied on. Soon after, they were able to identify "Ken
Tobias" as Toby Kendall, an employee of the "risk management" firm
C2i
International.
C2i's website "puts 'aerospace' at the top of a list of industries
for
which it works," notes the London Times. Heathrow's owner, BAA, said
it "had no contact with the named individuals but was subject to an
unsolicited pitch by C2i. We rejected their invitation to enter into
an arrangement with them."
Trashing the Greens
From 1995 to 2001, the Maryland-based firm Beckett Brown
International
(BBI) offered a range of security and intelligence services to
government and corporate clients. BBI frequently "produced
intelligence reports for public relations firms and major
corporations
involved in environmental controversies," reports Mother Jones
magazine.
BBI's insider information greatly helped the Ketchum, Nichols-
Dezenhall, and Mongoven, Biscoe & Duchin firms defend their
environmentally-challenged clients. In a September 2000 email, one
BBI
employee wrote, "Received a call from Ketchum yesterday
afternoon. ...
It seems Taco Bell turned out some product made from bioengineered
corn. The chemicals used on the corn have not been approved for human
consumption."
On behalf of Kraft, Ketchum asked BBI for "pre release information"
about environmental groups' response to the "glow-in-the-dark taco"
news. BBI immediately began planning to go through the trash of three
activist groups fingered by Ketchum: the Center for Food Safety,
Friends of the Earth and GE Food Alert. BBI had previously provided
Ketchum with information about a private strategy session involving
35
environmental groups, as well as reports on "tightly held" plans for
future Greenpeace campaigns.
BBI frequently used dumpster-diving to collect information -- at
least
once against progressive PR firm Fenton Communcations, which counts
environmental groups among its clients. In December 1999, a BBI
employee staked out David Fenton's home, noting "the time of the
morning garbage pick-up and that he returned to the office to 'sort
material' and 'analyze,'" according to Mother Jones.
Fair Play
While BBI (later called S2i) no longer exists, its principals
currently work for at least three other security firms: Chesapeake
Strategies, the Annapolis Group and Global Security Services. And
corporate espionage continues, as the Plane Stupid and CIW incidents
show.
"Inside information gives companies a strategic advantage," wrote
Amsterdam-based investigative reporter Eveline Lubbers in the 2002
book "Battling Big Business." Lubbers helped uncover an eight year-
long scam by a Dutch security firm, where one of its employees posed
as an activist. He collected discarded paperwork from at least 30
different activist groups, saying he would sell it to recycling
plants
and give the proceeds to charity. Instead, the documents were
carefully reviewed and often used against the groups.
Lubbers has seen corporate spying not only undermine activist
campaigns, but also destroy groups. Even "non-confidential documents
can reveal plenty about a group's activities when combined with other
data," she warned. "Stolen files can give insight into an
organization's goals and its chances of success, information about
its
financial position, the size of its following or the strength of its
alliances."
She suggests that activist groups take precautions, like locking file
cabinets and changing computer passwords. It would also help if
companies were held accountable for undermining civil society --
perhaps by having some of their own confidential information made
public.
Diane Farsetta is the Center for Media and Democracy's senior
researcher.
Dan Sullivan
Ilena Rose
attempts to highjack this thread.
Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!
http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
Jeffcoat:
EXCERPT:
The public relations industry has developed a lucrative side business
scrutinizing the thoughts and actions of citizen activists, using paid
spies who are often recruited from government, military or private
security backgrounds."
(more here) http://www.prwatch.org/node/7208
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org/Snake-oil.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Quackwatch 'Guerrilla' Tactics
Quoth Stephen J. Barrett, writing in AMA News on August 25, 1975,
describing the Lehigh Valley Committee Against Health Fraud:
"By working "undercover" using assumed names and box numbers, we've
gotten all sorts of information and publications other groups, like
the medical societies, haven't been able to lay their hands on.
...Really, we're a bunch of guerrillas - we're not a large group,
there are about 40 members, but we're the only such group in the
country."
~~~~~~~~~
Jan Drew
"Oliver"
Jan Drew
"Coleah"
Coleah
> "Coleah"
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Mention my name and I'll be there......
Ilena Rose
Coleah
> Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
>
> Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
> Jeffcoat:
Isn't Ilena "Special" ???
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Believe she displays signs of untreated mental illness. Poor thing!
[Rave on, Ilena!]
Jan Drew
"Coleah" <col...@pacifier.com> harassibf as is her habit
<snip>
On Apr 30, 2:59 pm, Ilena Rose <B...@mundo.com> wrote:
> Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena
> Rosenthal!http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
>
> Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
> Jeffcoat:
"Ilena Rose" <B...@mundo.com> wrote in message
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> Excellent ... thank you from Health Lover, Ilena Rosenthal!
> http://ilenarose.blogspot.com
>
> Dedicated to the Snake-oil Vigilantes, Coleah Penley Ayers & Myrl
> Jeffcoat:
>
Myrl
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JAN DREW TROLL-O-METER
Jan Drew
news:KTbSj.498$17....@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>
> "Coleah" <col...@pacifier.com> harassing as is her habit
> > JAN DREW
>
This thread about me?
Coleah
> JAN DREW
>
> This thread about me?
****************************
No. Go back to sleep. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Mark Probert
> What is your job in the anti-health industry?
Stolen. I love that line.
Mark Probert
> Esther Figueroa
Ms. Figeuora was murdered by the "treatments" of Hulda Clark.
Mark Probert
<Just...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote:
> "Citizen Jimserac" <Jimse...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> > Look at the headlines in yesterday's USA Today and widely reported
> > on the web and in the news media. The Journal of the American Medical
> > Association is asking that researchers disclose their financial
> > renumeration when publishing research. It would seem that in the
> > testing of Vioxx, a recalled drug which caused enormous harm, various
> > deleterious effects revealed in the tests were discounted, suppressed
> > or otherwise ignored while positive results were emphasized.
>
> What you should realize is that through the 80's and 90's, the FDA was
> pressured by NeoKKKonservativs to reduce the amount and quality of testing
> of new drugs. The argument was that the slow rate of testing was holding
> back chemi-medical progress.
>
> So the FDA was ordered by RepubliKKKans when the came into power to do
> what the NeoKKKonservatives demanded.
>
> And as a result, there are a zillion new knock off drugs on the market
> that are no better - or worse than the tried and true medications, and these
> and other new medications get through the (now lax) FDA screening process
> without the side effects being properly identified and examined.
>
> Every VIOXX DEATH is the result of KKKonservative Politics.
while your keyboard needs a new "K" key, your point is well taken. The
1980's were the begining of the stripping of regulatory power of the
FDA. However, you should also note that some of this stripping was
done at the behest of the so-called "Health Freedom Movement".
They caused it, now they whine about it.
Jan Drew
"Coleah" <col...@pacifier.com> wrote in message
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Then--YOU and your buddy, Myrl can stop making it about me by posting my
name.
Jan Drew
> Esther Figueroa
Off-topic.
Who wrote that, Mark S Probert?
Coleah
Gosh, ya know.....I know just what you mean.
http://www.ilena-rosenthal.com
Jan Drew
Good, then stop it.
Coleah
>
> - Show quoted text -
Good God!!! Your head really IS dense as cement !!!
Bugger off and quit trying to be the 'thread monitor',
as you clearly have not given up the 'Daycare Disapliner' role.
Now....watch Jan Drew post "Liar, Liar".......deep sigh.
Jan Drew
"Coleah" <col...@pacifier.com> wrote:
> Good God!!!
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will
not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
Coleah
Stuff it........................