People are being Murdered by Pollution in US

[mcs]

First off I think its important to state I love my country and I hope I can
contribute to making it better without people thinking I am unfairly
complaining for the sake of complaining.cause I really believe what I write
is important and true. I am sorry I have to offend some people but tis
obvious, this is or might be the difference between life and death and right
and wrong.
> not maybe, absolutely. The companies who pump this stuff know it, the govt
> knows it, the only people who don't want you to know it is the news media
> ,
> the polluters, the President,
> and Supreme Court and Congress who ignore all obvious links to the damage.
> You figure this out, I don't know why its happening or whether global
> warming is making it worse, all I know its happening. I say the links to
> pollution and ill health or worse
> for
> families that are close to the pollution are provable without one iota of
> doubt. If the studies don't
> conclusively prove it now, it can be proved. Anyone want to see my
> accumulated soot and black soot accumulated via a furnance filter from
> only
> 25 days of living in moderate
> amounts of particulates/.I dare anyone to compare our peoples overall
> health
> to those in clean areas who ate the same things.Its like living in two
> different centuries, one with more health and optimism and the other mean,
> dependent on medications and hospitals, crime cyniscim and ill health.
> But
> its the condition of health between the two different peoples, that would
> show
> that polluters and govt policy is allowing the murdering of families or
> cutting short their lives or health and nothing is being done to protect
> them equally!
> I
> can think of ten more tests to prove it.,\
> Please send my following opinion and links to real facts to your
> Congressman
> and ask how the greatest country in the world can get away with poisoning
> inner city youth and millions of people without a thing done to protect
> them.
>
>
> Is it possible?
> Mr. Bush get a clue, side with safety , not poisoning people.
> Coming back from , Boston or New York I am often taken back and my lungs
> constrict as I head
> to Philly yet no one cares. This is totally involuntary reflex due the
> poisons. Can you imagine families having to put up with this for decades
> and
> it affects another area of their body , one not so obvious?
> Ok? Now you or anyone tell me why this isn't the most important things in
> people lives right now... MASS MURDER by oil , coal and car companies and
> who will ever compensate those that will lose their health and lives and
> fiances to it? There are many many ways to prove all this beyond the few
> studies on web and epa findings and American Lung Associations ratings of
> F.
> Where are the attorneys? Why isn't more being done. What I do hear is its
> not as bad as it once was, and its a beautiful day , and 23 different
> medications to treat sleep disorders and asthma and allergy after they
> poison you .We get commercials for inhalers and oxygen and not a worry in
> the
> world why people age and die faster in these polluted hell holes ..
> <in...@economicdemocracy.org> wrote in message
> news:1158681407.7...@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The denial industry
>
> For years, a network of fake citizens' groups and bogus scientific
> bodies has been claiming that science of global warming is
> inconclusive. They set back action on climate change by a decade. But
> who funded them? Exxon's involvement is well known, but not the strange
> role of Big Tobacco. In the first of three extracts from his new book,
> George Monbiot tells a bizarre and shocking new story
>
> Tuesday September 19, 2006
> The Guardian
>
> Exxon station in California
> 'The impacts of the climate-change deniers sponsored by Exxon have been
> felt all over the world.' Photograph: AP
>
> ExxonMobil is the world's most profitable corporation. Its sales now
> amount to more than $1bn a day. It makes most of this money from oil,
> and has more to lose than any other company from efforts to tackle
> climate change. To safeguard its profits, ExxonMobil needs to sow doubt
> about whether serious action needs to be taken on climate change. But
> there are difficulties: it must confront a scientific consensus as
> strong as that which maintains that smoking causes lung cancer or that
> HIV causes Aids. So what's its strategy?
>
> Article continues
> The website Exxonsecrets.org, using data found in the company's
> official documents, lists 124 organisations that have taken money from
> the company or work closely with those that have. These organisations
> take a consistent line on climate change: that the science is
> contradictory, the scientists are split, environmentalists are
> charlatans, liars or lunatics, and if governments took action to
> prevent global warming, they would be endangering the global economy
> for no good reason. The findings these organisations dislike are
> labelled "junk science". The findings they welcome are labelled "sound
> science".
>
> Among the organisations that have been funded by Exxon are such
> well-known websites and lobby groups as TechCentralStation, the Cato
> Institute and the Heritage Foundation. Some of those on the list have
> names that make them look like grassroots citizens' organisations or
> academic bodies: the Centre for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global
> Change, for example. One or two of them, such as the Congress of Racial
> Equality, are citizens' organisations or academic bodies, but the line
> they take on climate change is very much like that of the other
> sponsored groups. While all these groups are based in America, their
> publications are read and cited, and their staff are interviewed and
> quoted, all over the world.
>
> By funding a large number of organisations, Exxon helps to create the
> impression that doubt about climate change is widespread. For those who
> do not understand that scientific findings cannot be trusted if they
> have not appeared in peer-reviewed journals, the names of these
> institutes help to suggest that serious researchers are challenging the
> consensus.
>
> This is not to claim that all the science these groups champion is
> bogus. On the whole, they use selection, not invention. They will find
> one contradictory study - such as the discovery of tropospheric
> cooling, which, in a garbled form, has been used by Peter Hitchens in
> the Mail on Sunday - and promote it relentlessly. They will continue to
> do so long after it has been disproved by further work. So, for
> example, John Christy, the author of the troposphere paper, admitted in
> August 2005 that his figures were incorrect, yet his initial findings
> are still being circulated and championed by many of these groups, as a
> quick internet search will show you.
>
> But they do not stop there. The chairman of a group called the Science
> and Environmental Policy Project is Frederick Seitz. Seitz is a
> physicist who in the 1960s was president of the US National Academy of
> Sciences. In 1998, he wrote a document, known as the Oregon Petition,
> which has been cited by almost every journalist who claims that climate
> change is a myth.
>
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>> Mass poisoning of people makes 9/11 look like a picnic and Bush is cause
>> of
>> it. We can do moe now, we don't have to pretend we don't know of the
>> damage.Its the point that we know all this, can do more and still don't
>> that really gets to me on top of the physical discomfort of being choked
>> with asthma only on these days and those days are numerous.
>> I live it every year in this helll hole. Where over 100 days so far with
>> air
>> out of the good zone. Where my lungs constrict,. where peoples atttiudes
>> are
>> rotten, where drinking and drugging might be appropriate response to
>> being
>> poisoned, many are jobless and mean spirited then they tell you about
>> our
>> crime rate that keeps increasing, but no links to pollution! We
>> are being poisoned. If your not affected and many aren't , please realize
>> many others are. So many things are affected negatively and the best and
>> brightest in news and politicians ignore it. They rather talk about Iraq.
>> Let me tell you something this poisoning makes Iraq and 9/11 look like a
>> picnic and its because of the oil, and energy lobby and car companies.
>> They
>> all are going about telling you of changes but chances are for too many
>> people it will be too late....
>>
>>
>> >
>>>>>>Of course they are. Pollution is by definition poison. That's the
>>>>>>problem
>>> with pollution, it poisons people. DUH!
>>>
>>> Yes but how many people think pollution might have caused their
>>> relatives
>>> death? Affected their life span ? Chances are not many and chances are
>>> ,
>>> at least in my town, they should assume that. So many days the air is
>>> horrific here and not a thing said or done. I have been in other places
>>> with clean air and its like living in two different centuries almost.
>>> Attitudes, crime, health and total costs for health are or might be
>>> different.But most important the actual lives of peoples health are
>>> different and many ways to prove it. SSssssssssssoooo many people are
>>> losing their life and age and health to pollution and built up of gasses
>>> compared to others its almost unbelievable.
>>
>> We have a street around here called Street Road and come rush hour this
>> is
>> life a ten mile polluted town akin probably to most polluted places in
>> Asia.
>> All one might have to do is see how the people who work on this street
>> has
>> been affected compared to those in clean air to know what kind of poison
>> people are getting. Not all poisons are equally venomous.
>>>
>> Maybe you or your friends are old looking and your friend didn't die from
>> old age, they died
>> earlier because of wrongrace, or where you lived and died because Bush
>> didn't
>> care one iota for your health , and in fact can be argued is contributing
>> to
>> you and your families ill health and death...I can argue the democrats
>> didn't care either but we know more now, anyone can add up the objective
>> data. Anyone can add up the number of prescription for asthma meds and
>> compare the stats by area. Anyone can compare the state of health between
>> people who live in polluted areas and those that don't. The studies so
>> far
>> are dim for the people in the NE being poisoned. Everyone should be on
>> some kind of disability if I am any example of how this toxic air affects
>> one over time , the head of the EPA thinks is acceptable but practically
>> ever other expert from his own agency doesn't. How can I give this jerk
>> the same choking that he allows me to get? Where people are being
>> poisoned
>> and made to die decades earlier because of Bushs policies?
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreasestrokerisk
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101616.html
>>
>>
>>>
>>> EPA Reports 6 out of every 10 homes are sick.
>>> a.. Strong new evidence suggests that air pollution emitted by power
>>> plants and vehicles
>>> across the US raises the risk of lung disease, according to a study in
>>> the
>>> Journal of
>>> the American Medical Association.
>>> b.. The air inside your home may be 5 times more polluted than the air
>>> outside, according
>>> to the EPA.
>>> c.. More than 1/2 of the US population is breathing unhealthy amounts
>>> of
>>> air pollution
>>> according to the American Lung Association's State of the Air, 2002.
>>> d.. 40-50 million Americans suffer from allergies and 17 million battle
>>> asthma.
>>> e.. Virus, fungus, bacteria and hundreds of other germs are carried in
>>> the
>>> air at all times.
>>> While inhaled into the lungs, germs can cause cold, flu, pneumonia and
>>> other respiratory infections. When these germs lodge in your lungs, your
>>> breathing can be disrupted
>>> and you can become ill. American Lung Association
>>>
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>>>
>>> there are a few associations between politics and asthma which yout wo
>>> seem
>>> to take issue about the most when I associate the idea. even thoughyou
>>> don't
>>> read my posts. Here are a few other ideas: Pollution is one of the most
>>> important but often overlooked causes of ill health. If you were to ask
>>> people what werethe causes of your relatives death few would say
>>> pollution
>>> but yet that isexactly what might have been a major contributor. I think
>>> people have toldme they came away thinking differently about asthma and
>>> pollution and illhealth after reading my posts. People might know of
>>> pollutions consequencesbut most people don't know their cities air
>>> ratings
>>> or how it pertains tooverall health. If I can promote people to be
>>> educated
>>> about one of the mostimportant factors in their health in life, then I
>>> can
>>> take the criticismsfrom people like you who obviously feel a bit
>>> threatened
>>> by information thatyou can't contribute. . I may post allot and its
>>> because
>>> the news media willnot go over the issue of pollution and the
>>> consequences
>>> and this will keeppeople a, uneducated about political changes, and b,
>>> uneducated aboutchoices where to live and how to find better conditions
>>> of
>>> air for theirfamily."mcs" <m...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fAXRg.2620$422.457@trnddc03...> yes, but do you realize one in five
>>> kids in NE states has asthma in some> places? They didn't have anything
>>> wrong with em.... the trees are dying> here, in droves, I automatically
>>> can't breath in moderate particulates,and> our news says polluted days
>>> are
>>> beautiful and their commericals are paidfor> by 34 different companies
>>> that
>>> tout drugs to treat you after they poison> you. If you think the goal
>>> for
>>> people to have jobs at poisoning the planet> and expense is business as
>>> it
>>> should be, better guess again or volunteerto> take our place while we
>>> live
>>> in Hawaii or at the ranch far away from> motorists and crime...> The
>>> stats
>>> say pollution kills and I say its underreported of the dangers.> When I
>>> first started people said I was crazy , global warming isn't true.>
>>> Guess
>>> what , if people knew that the biggest single reason for illnesswhen>
>>> everything else like diet and addictions were the same is
>>> pollution,people>
>>> might be singing a different
>>> tune.>>>>>>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20060921/hl_hsn/pollutedairmightincreasestrokerisk>>>
>>> some people think more people are being murdered by polluters then>>>
>>> murder, 9/11 and Iraq combined. Not only do longevity studies prove
>>> when>>>
>>> every thing else is the same , like diet and addiction levels,
>>> pollution>>>
>>> levels and amount of days an areas t=that gets moderate or
>>> worseparticulates is>>> the defining factor in contributing to lower
>>> longevity,>>> but many studies have showed cause and effect.When
>>> everything
>>> is similar>>> such as>>> diet and addiction, the defining factor for
>>> longevity seems to be how>>> close>>> people live to pollutants and how
>>> often. The associations between>>> pollution>>> and ill health are out
>>> there, but our news and politicians don't care>>> except>>> for Arnold
>>> and
>>> NY. mayor. More studies can be done and I could volunteermany types and
>>> how
>>> they can be done but I know what the result would show,the oil and
>>> energy
>>> crew don't want to know the truth . I am being charged upto 59 dollars a
>>> month for the right to use gas even if I don't use it. Canyou imagine
>>> what
>>> the conservatives would be screaming if someone chargedthem 59 dollars a
>>> month for something they don't use? Only in America canenergy get
>>> special
>>> treatment, poison you, made to pay more for it thenanything else
>>> combined
>>> and after they poison you, they cover it up and youcan't sue em... Oil
>>> and
>>> old energy people and Johnson from EPA>>> and Republicans are in power
>>> with
>>> a>>> mandate knowing people cant seem to sue them and those people
>>> say>>> pollution and>>> its negative effects is not proven to prop up
>>> their
>>> energy supporterswho>>> gain billions, at your healths and families
>>> expense
>>> and this ispatronage and favoritism and wait, its at your>>> healths
>>> expense. This is MURDER . Where is expectation of protectionfrom the
>>> epa
>>> who>>> disagrees with Johnson on this issue , or isn't govt is here to
>>> protectcitizens>>> equally/ Not in Bushs or Johnsons or Republicans
>>> MURDER
>>> the people who>>> don't know world.This is domestic terrorism. Don't
>>> think
>>> so trybreathing this for fifty years. look at my filters for one month,
>>> get
>>> intothis area of moderate pollution for 100 plus days a year and see how
>>> ittakes its tolls . Do a study. see how those closest to the pollution
>>> diesalmost 15 years sooner and those that don't have they tested their
>>> overallhealth compared to places with little or no pollution? I will
>>> tell
>>> you theresults. there are huge differences in attitudes, in health , in
>>> optimismand even crime sometimes. all because of pollution levels. If
>>> republicansare poisoning people and not doing anything about it, this is
>>> murder...>> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/22/us/22soot.html>>>
>>> There
>>> are many other studies to show cause and effect and morecould>>> be had
>>> but
>>> you can't sue the bastards so don't expect to see thestudies..>>> This
>>> is
>>> a
>>> democracy? Poor being>>> poisoned, rich many living 14 years longer then
>>> others cause they arerich>>> and not near the pollution, the rest near
>>> polluters deal with it. Payfor>>> your lost health and medication so
>>> polluters make billions.Its not likewe>>> can't do more and we will
>>> leave
>>> ourselves vulnerable. All we are asking>>> for>>> is making changes that
>>> are
>>> available today faster!>>>>>> Just moderate amounts of this poison
>>> is
>>> killing and hurtingamericans>>> and your families.... right now and this
>>> much I promise is true. The>>> latest longevity study shows that some
>>> people
>>> are living up to 14 years>>> longer and often the best longevity is in
>>> rich
>>> places in clean air.Clean>>> and dirty air in the longevity study
>>> recently
>>>
>>>forget about record number of asthma, forget illness we are talking death
>>>> by
>>>> pollution
>>>> in addition to all the links I gave before and are available on the
>>>> net
>>>>> with the associationg of death and ill health to pollution, the new
>>>>> longevity study by state
>>>>> shows that pollution is a factor in determning old age too in some if
>>>>> not
>>>>> all places although the study authors didn't directly mention
>>>>> pollution..
>>>>> (how convenient)
>>>>> The study conveniently left out pollution as a factor .This is such a
>>>>> giant conspiracy to not tell people i think its absolutely criminal .
>>>>> I
>>>>> think
>>>>> lawyers can add this study to the ammunition they already could get to
>>>>> show
>>>>> pollution is associated to added risk of death and ill health. There
>>>>> is
>>>>> not
>>>>> a place that has high amount of particle pollution with people who
>>>>> live
>>>>> on
>>>>> average the longest. In fact your more likely to not live longest and
>>>>> live
>>>>> shorter lives when you get high particulates and or ozone and
>>>>> everything
>>>>> else in polluted and non polluted areas are
>>>>> the same like diet and rates of addiction (thats my theory), so now
>>>>> what?
>>>>> If someone were to tell you or your family were going to loseup to
>>>>> five
>>>>> years of life or a decade or more for something you had no control
>>>>> of,
>>>>> or because of
>>>>> where you lived would you or should you
>>>>> be concerned? Should you be warned? Should we have politicians or gov
>>>>> policy
>>>>> to
>>>>> protect you or families equally with expectations to live without
>>>>> undue
>>>>> risks? should people in the US expect with their tax dollars, that
>>>>> they
>>>>> be warned of risks of bodily harm, or probabe cause of imminent
>>>>> dangers Well
>>>>> that is exactly what is not happening and no one is warning you. Its
>>>>> ok
>>>>> to murder
>>>>> people so it seems as long as you can't sue the people who are
>>>>> murdering
>>>>> you. and or your too poor to care or know your being poisoned .When
>>>>> cigarette companies and people who make errant products can be
>>>>> sued even though the people often had a choice its one thing. With
>>>>> energy
>>>>> companies or car companies, and govt, that often sets amount of
>>>>> pollution, people down wind
>>>>> have no choices. people and companies profitting at someones health
>>>>> expense should not be allowed until provisions are made so companies
>>>>> have to reduce the factors that increase the risks of pollution and
>>>>> ill
>>>>> health ... everyone should be protected equally
>>
>> Not only that, how long you live by state is often
>>>>> diffused by not showing how long you might live in the most polluted
>>>>> cities in that state. Often the difference of only 40 miles could be
>>>>> the
>>>>> difference between living years longer or not. ( for instance NJ is a
>>>>> polluted state but there are areas in NJ that get overall good air
>>>>> near
>>>>> the sea and asian women with good families and no bad habits living
>>>>> long
>>>>> time show that) By and large if you live in
>>>>> polluted city like Camden Washington dc and you do or don't have
>>>>> other
>>>>> risk factors, do you know which one is more likely to kill you faster?
>>>>> for
>>>>> oil , coal and energy ., THE DEFINING FACTOR IS POLLUTION in poisoning
>>>>> people and shortening their life and your not told. The sad facts are
>>>>> more can be done NOW but isn't.
>>>>> Tens of thousands are losing up to decade of life but news would
>>>>> rather
>>>>> tell you about Britney Spears or a way in Iraq where one tenth as many
>>>>> people are dying, except here no one has a choice in accepting these
>>>>> toxins.
>>>>> .Of course the issue of condition of health is not even factored in
>>>>> either
>>>>> like the rate of cancer or asthma. If the studies were made that
>>>>> compared
>>>>> the health of people who ate the same rather healthy diet but one
>>>>> lived
>>>>> in
>>>>> polluted city and one didn't that difference would show cause and
>>>>> effect.
>>>>> People are being poisoned in many cities in NE and SE and these
>>>>> longevity
>>>>> studies adds to the proof.
>>>>> This longevity study should add fuel to the fire that first poor
>>>>> people
>>>>> in the cities offer suffer significantly more dealth and illness (
>>>>> addictions aside) then rich people in clean areas . Up to ten years
>>>>> more.
>>> Any people rich or poor living downwind from pollution are decreasing
>>> their average life span ... how much so still needs to be determining
>>> according to particulate and ozone level. In fact of all risk factors
>>> pollution might be the most important or as important as the other major
>>> risk factors like smoking and poor diet. If we are poisoning people ,
>>> why
>>> should we complain when they rob and shoot you when they couldn't be
>>> well
>>> enough to make the right choices?
>>> I saw a show on Britney Spears and we see the importance of wars in
>>> Iraq,
>>> we are told of recalls of errant car seat
>>> yet this issue is affecting tens of millions of little boys and girls
>>> and
>>> families and the press is silent.. That little girl with cancer might
>>> have
>>> gotten cancer simply because her little body could not have absorbed the
>>> toxins around her.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>We talk about black people in poverty and our young getting fat but the
>>>>incredible thing is even if they wanted to do better they might not be
>>>>able! becayse we are dosing them with black lungs and polluted bodies.
>>>>You try living in this poison for 39 years. Anyone can see what kind
>>>>of dirt is coming into my filter every 20 days, just mulitply that by
>>>>years.....
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