Limbaugh reports: GLOBAL COOLING has begun!
Doug Bashford
Limbaugh reports: Global Cooling has begun!
on now...
He says "all four" of the "major tracking outlets" report
global cooling! Record snow in Europe! Baghdad reports
snow first time in all its history!
"I have yet to see this in the drive-by media!"
He says:
Now I know what they will say folks! They will say
you can't use just one year of data! Can you believe that!?
He says, <cartoon voice> "the faithful" with ignore this proof!
And it has something to do with the collapse of the Commies.
(Dont ask me!)
"What we're battling against is their faith!"
<cartoon voice> "We have faith Mr. Limbaugh, we have faith!"
He says:
Do you know what social equality means? It means everybody
will be equally miserable!
Then he lists ALL the Liberal Evils and explains they are
all the same thing, just like the global warming hoax.
Commercial break.
Opens with Obama parody doo-wop song.
* Another very great communicator once said:
* "the genius of a great political leader to make
* adversaries far removed from one another seem
* to belong to a single category to the weak and
* uncertain people,...a multiplicity of different
* adversaries must always be combined so that
* in the eyes of one's own supporters the struggle
* is directed against *only one enemy*."
* -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
PURE Republicanism?? It's now clear.
Six years of PURE Republicanism - BOTH houses
AND the Prez. Pure as it gets.
So?
Are you better off now than seven years ago?
Are you proud with what they have done to
America and her reputation? ...Your reputation?
...all that sleaze, lies and bribery? Proud?
If actions speak louder than rhetoric, then
name ONE good thing about Republicanism.
Just one.
Just one *real* thing.
Can't do it?
So? Your Republicanism more like a bad habit then?
Pure empty feelsgoodism?
Richard J. Edwards
"Doug Bashford" <pla...@always.edu> wrote in message
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democrats all want to cancel (can you spell tax increase?). That is one
very good thing. Anytime any government lets the workers and producers keep
more of their own money it is a very good thing. The folks who earn money
are the ones most likely to spend it in the wisest manner.
Richard J. Edwards
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3975 Dead
These aren't workers and producers that the expiry of the tax cuts
will affect: it's the idle rich.
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Keating Five
Limbaugh needs to explain why he dodged the draft if he's so patriotic.
Mitchell Holman
news:hemdnWemMN3dXVja...@pghconnect.com:
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And no one knows climate science better than Rush.
"Even if polar ice caps melted, there would be no rise in ocean levels"
- Rush Limbaugh, 6/19/92
Keating Five
"Mitchell Holman" <Noe...@comcast.com> wrote in message
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Professor Pimpleass, the phoney patriot.
Peacenik
>
> on now...
> He says "all four" of the "major tracking outlets" report
> global cooling! Record snow in Europe! Baghdad reports
> snow first time in all its history!
Limbaugh says it, so it must be true.
> "I have yet to see this in the drive-by media!"
Sure he did. Because Limbaigh IS the "drive-by media".
Jeff Strickland
"Peacenik" <cnelso...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fq6f2e$7ch$1...@news.seed.net.tw...
???
Rush is behind the curve on this one, it was reported at least as early as
Monday, 02/25, on Paul Harvey that science is noting a cooling of the
planet. Granted, one year does not a trend make, but '06 ~ '07 is showing
the steepest decline in global temps from the previous year of any period
since they began tracking this sort of stuff. Tropical fish in the South
Pacific are dieing by the tens of thousands in cold water. Polar ice is as
strong as it has ever been, polar bears are at record populations.
Just because Rush reports what the journal says does not mean the journal is
false. It could mean that Rush is picking and choosing what to talk about,
but one would need to read the journal to see if that is true or not. Rush
is not the only one reporting what the drive-by media is not reporting.
You have to learn how to separate what "Rush says," from what Rush reports.
The reports are that we are having Global Cooling, and the evidence is there
to read if you wanted to go look for it.
George Grapman
warming is a hoax. When there are record highs he ignores them.
kT
> "Peacenik" <cnelsonpub...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The evidence suggests that the oceans are beginning their global
warming driven overturn, driving very deep cold ocean water to the
surface. When this starts to happen, and clearly it has, you're fucked.
Jeff Strickland
"George Grapman" <sfge...@paccbell.net> wrote in message
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> When there are record lows Rush proclaims that as proof that global
> warming is a hoax. When there are record highs he ignores them.
I accept the sentiment, but it is not entirely accurate. Rush, and many
others, accept that the Earth goes through normal cycles of heating and
cooling, the rate of which is determined more by natural causes than man
made ones. Assuming the causes are _not_ man made, there is little need to
be alarmed when the changes come about.
It may be a falacy to accept or deny the causes as man made, and that is
reasonable basis for discussion.
I think that pollution is a problem wherever it exists, but the problem is
essentially a local one. For example, the air in Los Angeles was once among
the worst in the world, but the effects of bad air here does not influence
in any significant way the air in New York City. It is important to
understand what the pollution is, and take steps to mitigate it, but the
beneficiaries of such mitigation are the locals. The Chinese need to take
steps to clean up their act(s), but primarily for the people of China, not
for the rest of the planet. America could do better, but the benefit is
primarily to Americans, not to the planet as a whole.
Global issues _might_ arise from human sources, I go along with the premise,
but warming and/or cooling is more the result of natural phenomena than to
man made ones. The falacy is that man can affect climate in any significant
way. Man can affect his local environment significantly, but time and
distance from the impact will reduce the affect of that impact.
Mani Deli
It's true if you only consider the North icecap. If the Antarctic
melted forget it.
Limbaugh is now the only living expert on global warming now that
Fallwell crapped out.
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Doug Bashford
"Your scrotum is gone.
It's in the hands of somebody else."
-- Rush Limbaugh, transcript, Feb27'08, rushlimbaugh.com
in sci.environment,
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Doug Bashford said about:
Limbaugh reports: GLOBAL COOLING has begun!
> Limbaugh says; <cartoon voice> "the faithful" with ignore this proof!
> And it has something to do with the collapse of the Commies.
> [Dont ask me!]
> * Another very great communicator once said:
> * "the genius of a great political leader to make
> * adversaries far removed from one another seem
> * to belong to a single category to the weak and
> * uncertain people,...a multiplicity of different
> * adversaries must always be combined so that
> * in the eyes of one's own supporters the struggle
> * is directed against *only one enemy*."
> * -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
"Big, big, big news on the global warming front!"
...Obama is "not running a political campaign, he's leading
a movement out there. By the same token, manmade global
warming is a total hoax. It has no basis in fact, and yet
it has acolytes out the wazoo. We have people going out and
living their lives and changing their lives to account for
this hoax and this manmade global warming that's destroying
the planet, that they have been led to believe they are
responsible for in part, and so they gotta do things to
absolve themselves of their sin."
-- Rush Limbaugh, transcript, Feb27'08, rushlimbaugh.com
It's difficult to find such blatant examples of proudly
burning self-created despicable strawmen as the below. But
it also shows the RW's attempts to show common decency and
manners as wimpy via the the RW catch phrase "politically
correct," while being an asshole is depicted as "politically
incorrect," and oh-so manly. (My hero!) Can it be any
wonder why the Republicans are now known as the sleaze-scandal
a-week club? As "The Culture of Corruption?" (see Wikipedia)
Sleaze is good? But what of common decency and shame!??
"Your scrotum is gone.
It's in the hands of somebody else."
-- Rush Limbaugh, transcript, Feb27'08, rushlimbaugh.com
in sci.environment,
On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Doug Bashford said about:
Limbaugh reports: GLOBAL COOLING has begun!
> He says, <cartoon voice> "the faithful" with ignore this proof!
>
> And it has something to do with the collapse of the Commies.
> (Dont ask me!)
> * Another very great communicator once said:
> * "the genius of a great political leader to make
> * adversaries far removed from one another seem
> * to belong to a single category to the weak and
> * uncertain people,...a multiplicity of different
> * adversaries must always be combined so that
> * in the eyes of one's own supporters the struggle
> * is directed against *only one enemy*."
> * -Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
"Big, big, big news on the global warming front!"
...Obama is "not running a political campaign, he's leading
a movement out there. By the same token, manmade global
warming is a total hoax. It has no basis in fact, and yet
it has acolytes out the wazoo. We have people going out and
living their lives and changing their lives to account for
this hoax and this manmade global warming that's destroying
the planet, that they have been led to believe they are
responsible for in part, and so they gotta do things to
absolve themselves of their sin."
-- Rush Limbaugh, transcript, Feb27'08, rushlimbaugh.com
It's difficult to find such blatant examples of proudly
burning self-created despicable strawmen as the below. But
it also shows the RW's attempts to show common decency and
manners as wimpy via the the RW catch phrase "politically
correct," while being an asshole is depicted as "politically
incorrect," and oh-so manly. (My hero!) Can it be any
wonder why the Republicans are now known as the sleaze-scandal
a-week club? As "The Culture of Corruption?" (see Wikipedia)
Sleaze is good? But what of common decency and shame!??
William F. Buckley was the "inspiration for the movement....
There was no competition. Buckley just made it okay for
people to come out of the closet."
-- Rush Limbaugh, transcript, Feb27'08, rushlimbaugh.com
Indeed. But in fact it seems Limbaugh is talking about himself.
When Limbaugh first came on the air, it was the most shocking
thing I'd ever heard on-air anywhere. He kept saying over and
over, Folks just give me six weeks before you complain to your
station. He knew that people become tolerant to indecency.
Perhaps it's time to put the sleazebags back in the closet.
Sleaze is not good.
"Okay, find me examples in any country, any population where
there is equality. You might be able to do it, in fact.
But I'll guarantee you this, Mr. New Castrati.
[ lisping cartoon voice: ] "I don't like that term, Mr.
Limbaugh."
"Well, get used to it, because it's what you are. Your
scrotum is gone. It's in the hands of somebody else.
Understand this. You can find a place in this world where
there is equality, and you know what it will be?
Everybody is equally miserable."
-- Rush Limbaugh, transcript, Feb27'08, rushlimbaugh.com
"....and, folks, once again, this is one of the
...brilliant tactics of the left."
from:
www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_022708/content/01125113.guest.html
Extracts are from the tran script from his site.
(These periodically get "erased" from Usenet.)
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Headline:
The Manmade Global Warming Hoax Thrives on Faith, Not Facts
Like the Obama movement, it's tough to combat.
link:
ARTICLE: 100 Years of Warming Wiped Out in 2007! -
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
[ Blog: Science Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global
Cooling
Michael Asher (Blog) - February 26, 2008
Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century
of warming ]
=====================A study in Propaganda 101:
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February 27, 2008
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Limbaugh: Big, big, big news on the global warming front, but
this is going to serve as a great example to what I was talking
about earlier. You have Obama and his followers, and you're not
going to talk his followers out of him with standard political
jargon or criticism because they're not with him because of
politics. He's not running a political campaign. He's leading
a movement out there. By the same token, manmade global warming
is a total hoax. It has no basis in fact, and yet it has
acolytes out the wazoo. We have people going out and living
their lives and changing their lives to account for this hoax and
this manmade global warming that's destroying the planet, that
they have been led to believe they are responsible for in part,
and so they gotta do things to absolve themselves of their sin.
So, they're putting in these screwy little spaghetti lightbulbs,
they're driving strange cars, they're using something other than
toilet paper in the bathroom, whatever number of things.
No matter what you tell 'em, they go out and watch Gore's
movie. You can point out every factual error in Gore's movie.
"No. It's bad. It's bad. That movie is the truth."
When people become attached to a movement, a person or whatever
on the basis of faith, you got problems trying to separate 'em,
because faith is what? Faith is loyalty. It is support of the
unknown or something that cannot be proved. It can't be proven,
it can't be disproven, as far as the faithful are concerned.
Obama has a bunch of faithful, and so does the manmade global
warming hoax. I have a piece of information here -- you may have
seen it already today -- that totally discounts it all in my mind
just in terms of common sense.
Let me give you the data.
"In the last year, we have seen the largest one-year
temperature change ever recorded for global temperatures.
However, it's been a cooling trend, not warming. Record snows
and cold are being reported from all over the northern hemisphere
this winter."
It seems like our unbiased media should have been covering
this important story. If you search Google News for articles in
the last month containing the phrase "global warming," you get
29,000 hits. If you do the same for "global cooling," you'll get
100 hits. One hundred cooling hits versus 29,000 warming hits.
We could be sliding into a new ice age and the Drive-By Media
would be crying hysterically about global warming.
"Okay, Rush, prove it, prove it." Fine. I got it right here.
This is from the DailyTech.com. It's a science website.
All four major global temperature tracking outlets -- Hadley,
NASA's GISS, the UAH, and the RSS -- have data showing that
global temperatures have dropped big-time.
Does this mean that Algore is out of a job? Does it mean
that they should rescind his Nobel Peace Prize? Will Algore just
jump on the cold bandwagon, or do something more fun?
World temperatures, according to the Hadley Centre for
Climate Prediction, is the chart that is exhibited here -- we'll
put this up at RushLimbaugh.com so you can see it -- [ chart not
found on Feb28 10:30 EST ] and you can see the sharp drop over
the last year. It is a huge drop.
As we reported yesterday, more snow and ice cover the northern
hemisphere than at any time since 1966. The 12-month-long drop
-- now, get this, because this is crucial -- the drop in global
temperatures this past year has wiped out one century of warming.
We went up one degree Celsius, we think, in 100 years, in one
century. In one year, it's been wiped out.
"Over the past year, anecdotal evidence for a cooling planet has
exploded. China has its coldest winter in 100 years. Baghdad
sees its first snow in all recorded history. North America has
the most snowcover in 50 years, with places like Wisconsin the
highest since record-keeping began. Record levels of Antarctic
sea ice, record cold in Minnesota, Texas, Florida, Mexico,
Australia, Iran, Greece, South Africa, Greenland, Argentina,
Chile -- the list goes on and on. No more than anecdotal
evidence, to be sure.
But now, that evidence has been supplanted by hard scientific
fact. All four major global temperature tracking outlets
(Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All
show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped
precipitously," a degree in one year, ladies and gentlemen.
And, you know what? Scientists such as Drew Thornley, he's a
policy analyst at the Texas Public Policy Foundation's Center for
Economic Freedom and the Center for Natural Resources, and a new
Planet Gore contributor chimes in on the inconvenient truth of
global cooling.
New data from these four major global temperature tracking
outlets show that world temperatures last year dropped .75
degrees Celsius, large enough to wipe out virtually an entire
century of warming. "Multiple researchers have linked global
temperatures to levels of solar activity.
This all may be due to a changing solar cycle," as we have
attempted to explain on this program; as we have gone into great
depth on global warming just as we have gone into great depth on
the policies of Mrs. Clinton and on her incompetence.
This is profound. I have yet to see this in the Drive-By
Media. If it ever does appear in the Drive-By Media, it will be
portrayed as kooks, extremists, or harping on one year's data.
And of course the global warming manmade hoaxers will come out
and say, [ cartoon voice: ]
"Of course, we have said all along that we're going to have
these drastic impulses and cycles. This could mean that next
year we could gain a full temperature in one year, which is why
we have to continue to do what we're doing."
So despite the fact that the anecdotal evidence has been
matched up with true scientific evidence, the faithful who buy
into this hoax will not be separated from their faithful belief
based on this because they have too much invested in their own
feeling of mattering and relevance and contributing and so forth.
So they'll come up with all kinds of excuses.
[ cartoon voice: ]
"Well, may be true for one year, but we can't afford to just
forget this. We can't afford to stop our carbon footprint
limiting."
And, folks, once again, this is one of the, I have to say,
brilliant tactics of the left. I will go so far as to say that
belief in liberalism has to be faith because the evidence is it
fails; the evidence is it doesn't work. The evidence is abundant,
either in the number of deaths, the number of genocides, the
number of starvations, the lack of economic opportunity and
prosperity. Communism is a disaster, and yet there are faithful
communists, faithful socialists, faithful liberals who still
think, with the right people in charge, it can succeed. So when
you see the Soviet Union crumble, when you see the way people
live in Cuba -- look at how these people talk about Cuba -- best
health care system in the world. This is where we're headed with
Obama. This is what we have here. This is what Mrs. Clinton
could never create, is faith in herself. Obama has done it.
"Well, what about conservatism?" Conservatism doesn't require
this. Conservatives already have their faith, in God.
We don't have faith in government. We don't even have hope. We
already know it's a disaster when liberals are in charge of it,
so we are in the process of explaining ourselves substantively,
with ideas, and we are trying to get inside the deep, dark
crevices of people's minds, get into their brains and convince
them. What they're battling against is their faith that things
will get better, that people care enough out there to make them
better. Wait a minute. The people trying to make them better
are no different than the people who have seen it fail. Go to
China. Go anywhere. Go to Vietnam. Go to Cuba. Go to the Soviet
Union. These are the extreme examples. Go to any socialist
democracy, and you tell me how it's working. [ lisping cartoon
voice: ] "No, no. I have hope. I have faith these people can
make it work here. There's too much inequality, Mr. Limbaugh.
We have faith that it's gonna be fixed."
Okay, find me examples in any country, any population where there
is equality. You might be able to do it, in fact. But I'll
guarantee you this, Mr. New Castrati.
[ lisping cartoon voice: ] "I don't like that term, Mr.
Limbaugh."
Well, get used to it, because it's what you are. Your scrotum
is gone. It's in the hands of somebody else. Understand this.
You can find a place in this world where there is equality, and
you know what it will be? Everybody is equally miserable.
Everybody is equally poor. Everybody is equal in their lack of
opportunity to change the sewers in which they live. [ Lisping
cartoon voice: ] "I resent that, Mr. Limbaugh." I'm sure you
do. It's the truth. This is what we're up against, folks.
We're up against hard, cold reality, experience, history,
evidence, the power and art of persuasion versus people of faith,
be it in Obama, be it in manmade global warming, be it in oil is
destroying the world, what have you. I mean people that have
these faithful attachments, they're tough to break.
END TRANSCRIPT
Read the Background Material...
• DailyTech.com: Temperature Monitors Report Widescale Global
Cooling
[
http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
]
• Boston Globe: Mercury Leaks Found as New Bulbs Break
[
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2008/02/26/mercury_leaks_found_as_new_bulbs_break
]
*Note: Links to content outside RushLimbaugh.com usually become
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V-for-Vendicar
> own money it is a very good thing.
Especially if they have to borrow 9.3 trillion to do it as the
RepubliKKKans have.
V-for-Vendicar
"Keating Five" <NcCain--...@crawford.net> wrote
> Limbaugh needs to explain why he dodged the draft if he's so patriotic.
Anal Cysts.
And an unreliable source of OxyCotin
Jeffrey Turner
> "Peacenik" <cnelso...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Doug Bashford" <pla...@always.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Limbaugh reports: Global Cooling has begun!
>>>
>>> on now...
>>> He says "all four" of the "major tracking outlets" report
>>> global cooling! Record snow in Europe! Baghdad reports
>>> snow first time in all its history!
>>
>> Limbaugh says it, so it must be true.
>>
>>> "I have yet to see this in the drive-by media!"
>>
>> Sure he did. Because Limbaigh IS the "drive-by media".
>
> ???
>
> Rush is behind the curve on this one, it was reported at least as early
> as Monday, 02/25, on Paul Harvey that science is noting a cooling of the
> planet.
Then why hasn't the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric
Administration (NOAA) heard about it?
NOAA: 2007 a Top Ten Warm Year for U.S. and Globe
The year 2007 the 10th warmest year for the contiguous U.S., since
national records began in 1895, according to preliminary data from
NOAA's National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. The year was
marked by exceptional drought in the U.S. Southeast and the West, which
helped fuel another extremely active wildfire season. The year also
brought outbreaks of cold air, and killer heat waves and floods.
Meanwhile, the global surface temperature for 2007 was the fifth warmest
since records began in 1880.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2007/ann/ann07.html
--Jeff
--
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without
formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to
deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree
odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government
whether Nazi or Communist."
- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943
Jeff Strickland
<Nic...@Click.com> wrote in message
news:2gees31trjd8fa4gv...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:35:17 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>I accept the sentiment, but it is not entirely accurate. Rush, and many
>>others, accept that the Earth goes through normal cycles of heating and
>>cooling, the rate of which is determined more by natural causes than man
>>made ones.
>
>
> His "reflections" are mirrored beliefs of your kind,
> JeffyLoon
>
> HE has no personal knowledge of anything.
>
Alternatively, YOU have no personal knowledge of anything ...
I see no point in going nuts after Rush when all he did was repeat a report
that shows global warming is really global cooling. Go after the report if
you want, but don't blame Rush for talking about it.
Jeff Strickland
<Nic...@Click.com> wrote in message
news:m5ees3tfthmdo2nv1...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:46:45 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>Rush is behind the curve on this one,
>
>
> BTW, are you actually saying that limpballs hold
> crediblity with you?
>
No, I'm not saying that at all. All I am saying is that I heard this on
Monday, maybe Friday of last week, and Rush just talked about it yesterday.
V-for-Vendicar
"Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote
> I see no point in going nuts after Rush when all he did was repeat a
> report
> that shows global warming is really global cooling. Go after the report if
> you want, but don't blame Rush for talking about it.
Limbaugh is a non-stop source of false news.
Only Wannabe Liars listen to a well known liar like Limbaugh.
Jeff Strickland
"V-for-Vendicar" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote in message
news:maJxj.25253$612....@read1.cgocable.net...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote
>> I see no point in going nuts after Rush when all he did was repeat a
>> report
>> that shows global warming is really global cooling. Go after the report
>> if
>> you want, but don't blame Rush for talking about it.
>
> Limbaugh is a non-stop source of false news.
>
Rush is not the only one that reported this. I did a quick search but can't
find the article that was referenced, and it doesn't really matter that
much. Too bad the OP did not post his link.
All I said was that it was reported before Rush mentioned it. All Rush did
was tell it again. Your mentality is to shoot the messenger, but the message
remains. Maybe you should look for the report ...
Basically, the story is that fish are dying due to cold in what is supposed
to be tropical water. The story also said that global temps in the past year
are lower than the previous year, and the rate of decline is steeper than
any year over year decline ever recorded. Granted, one year does not a trend
make, but couple these with other news of solar activity and it is easy to
see how natural causes may be at the root of global warming, or the looming
ice age. Pick one.
V-for-Vendicar
"Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote
> All I said was that it was reported before Rush mentioned it. All Rush did
> was tell it again. Your mentality is to shoot the messenger, but the
> message
> remains. Maybe you should look for the report ...
And all I said was that Limbaugh was lying yet again.
His OxyCotin poisoned brain lies with regularity. It's like clockwork -
whenever he opens his mouth.
Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )
Doug Bashford wrote:
>
> Limbaugh reports: Global Cooling has begun!
>
> on now...
> He says "all four" of the "major tracking outlets" report
> global cooling! Record snow in Europe! Baghdad reports
> snow first time in all its history!
>
> "I have yet to see this in the drive-by media!"
>
> He says:
> Now I know what they will say folks! They will say
> you can't use just one year of data! Can you believe that!?
>
> He says, <cartoon voice> "the faithful" with ignore this proof!
>
> And it has something to do with the collapse of the Commies.
> (Dont ask me!)
>
> "What we're battling against is their faith!"
> <cartoon voice> "We have faith Mr. Limbaugh, we have faith!"
>
> He says:
> Do you know what social equality means? It means everybody
> will be equally miserable!
>
Isn't that what you really want? Don't you *hate* folks who have more
money that you? Don't *hate* those who can buy a new car? Don't you
*hate* people with cash for a plasma TV? Yes you do. I find you funny.
But not in a good way.
--
-"We have a couple of ideas for Texas."
-"Good, we need ideas."
-"One, we provide everybody who shows up with a nice lunch platter, some
sliced meat, a bun, some lettuce, a piece of tomato, a big hunk of bunt
cake. We tell them, vote for Hillary, she's a real winner."
-"What's the other idea?"
-"We start a rumor that Obama had a gay affair while smoking crack."
-"We don't have the money for a deli run."
Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )
3975 Dead wrote:
>
> These aren't workers and producers that the expiry of the tax cuts
> will affect: it's the idle rich.
>
The rich are vital. Their money is *invested*. Why do you care so much
that they wear fancy suits?
Doug Bashford
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008, Jeff Strickland said about:
Re: Limbaugh reports: GLOBAL COOLING has begun!
> It may be a falacy to accept or deny the causes as man made, and that is
> reasonable basis for discussion.
Good point.
If the world were the size of an apple, and were in
space, it would be about as massive as an iron-rich rock
and have the same gravitational pull as that rock.
(The same as any such dense rock.) That gravity would be
powerfull enough to hold very little atmosphere.
Indeed, if the world were the size of an apple, it's
atmosphere would be about as thick as the apple's skin.
>
> I think that pollution is a problem wherever it exists, but the problem is
> essentially a local one. For example, the air in Los Angeles was once among
> the worst in the world, but the effects of bad air here does not influence
> in any significant way the air in New York City.
Your premise seems to be that the atmosphere is an infinite
pollution sink. True, some of the pollution, the water soluable,
will wash out as acid rain, as Candada has discovered with
American air pollution, and never make it to NY. And many
other mechanisms will "remove" other reactive chemicals.
But the inert chemicals from LA, such as CFCs, will EQUALLY
pollute all points on the globe. CO2 falls somewhere in
between those in reactivity, it could get sucked up by a plant
and perhaps eventually be turned into oil, reef, or limestone.
(All limestone comes from reefs or disolved reefs redeposited,
this includes the Alps, other mountains, much of Arkasas, etc.)
I'm not aware of any other major sinks, but I'm no expert. (The
reefs are dying and the oil is burning.)
Some reactive but durable chemicals such as DDT and Scotch
Gaurd have been found in isolated polar animal populations.
Scotch Gaurd is very reactive in the sense that it's
a very "sticky" chemical, it clings to things. But even so,
it pollutes all around globe, there no place where it's
not stuck, clinging inside animal tissue.
What I'm getting at is, the biosphere is NOT the infinite
sink that your argument requires. This was not always true.
When the human economy was small, Nature was infinite.
But the frontier economy that the USA has enjoyed so
much longer than the rest of civilization is now in the past.
It is important to
> understand what the pollution is, and take steps to mitigate it, but the
> beneficiaries of such mitigation are the locals. The Chinese need to take
> steps to clean up their act(s), but primarily for the people of China, not
> for the rest of the planet. America could do better, but the benefit is
> primarily to Americans, not to the planet as a whole.
You argument has much merit. But those merits are more
from poli-economic reality than objective science.
We don't really want to confuse those.
>
> Global issues _might_ arise from human sources,
> I go along with the premise,
That's wise I think. But you seem to toss it out the
window below, agian via your infinite-Earth assumption.
(I presume that's your argument, since it's very common
and since you make no other.)
> but warming and/or cooling is more the result of natural phenomena than to
> man made ones. The falacy is that man can affect climate in any significant
> way. Man can affect his local environment significantly, but time and
> distance from the impact will reduce the affect of that impact.
"reduce the affect of that impact."
Again, true for some, not so much for others.
Mitchell Holman
<tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:47C79F71...@yahoo.co.uk:
>
>
> 3975 Dead wrote:
>>
>
>
>> These aren't workers and producers that the expiry of the tax cuts
>> will affect: it's the idle rich.
>>
> The rich are vital. Their money is *invested*.
....in Chinese factories, in European commodity markets,
in Swiss banks, in Bahamian resorts.
3975 Dead
They've been busily lining their pockets whilst sellout out the rest
of us.
>
>
--
What do you call a Republican with a conscience?
An ex-Republican.
http://www.balloon-juice.com/?p=8827 (From Yang, AthD (h.c)
"Prosperity and peace are in the balance," -- Putsch, not admitting that he's against both
Putsch: leading America to asymetric warfare since 2001
Not dead, in jail, or a slave? Thank a liberal!
Pay your taxes so the rich don't have to.
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Lloyd
> <Nick...@Click.com> wrote in message
Why didn't he repeat the dozens of reports showing the earth is
warming? Sorry, he chose which reports to push, which makes him fair
game for criticism.
Jeff Strickland
<Nic...@Click.com> wrote in message
news:7olgs39dgiu8rcvm6...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:01:29 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
> <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>>
>><Nic...@Click.com> wrote in message
>>news:m5ees3tfthmdo2nv1...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:46:45 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
>>> <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Rush is behind the curve on this one,
>>>
>>> Usually he's in front of a curved one, JeffyLoon
>>>
>>> BTW, are you actually saying that limpballs hold
>>> crediblity with you?
>>>
>>
>>No, I'm not saying that at all. All I am saying is that I heard this on
>>Monday, maybe Friday of last week, and Rush just talked about it
>>yesterday.
>>
>
>
> Why would you do that?
>
I do not have to listen to Rush say something several days after somebody
else said the same thing to know that somebody else said it several days
ago.
V-for-Vendicar
Billy Bondo wrote:
> Isn't that what you really want? Don't you *hate* folks who have more
> money that you? Don't *hate* those who can buy a new car? Don't you
> *hate* people with cash for a plasma TV? Yes you do.
Don't you like being fucked by a dog? Yes you do.
MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN
Billy Bondo makes it quite clear what motivates his KKKonservative mind.
Money, a new car, money, plasma TV's.
All worthless trinkets. A way for KKKonservatives to occupy the empty
time in their worthless lives until they die.
Like Billy Bondo here, KKKonservatives can't even conceive of anything
beyond their own hollow material desires.
---
Less stuff = More happieness
V-for-Vendicar
Billy Bondo wrote:
> The rich are vital.
The rich are idle parasites for the most part, and most contribute nothing
to society.
But this can also be said of the poor wannabe's like Billy Bondo here.
Wealth is always transient and completely incapable of purcahsing
happiness, worth, worthieness, contentment, purpose, loyalty, respect or
love.
But wealth will allow you to purchase a big screen TV. Many poor SOB's
like Billy Bondo here, ignorantly think that doing so is enough and spend
their pathetic lives defending something they know nothing about.
Less Stuff = More Happieness
Steve
<zepp22...@finestplanet.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:39:38 -0600, Mitchell Holman
><Noe...@comcast.com> wrote:
>
>>"Bill Bonde ( 'the oblique allusion in lieu of the frontal attack' )"
>><tributyl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:47C79F71...@yahoo.co.uk:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 3975 Dead wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> These aren't workers and producers that the expiry of the tax cuts
>>>> will affect: it's the idle rich.
>>>>
>>> The rich are vital. Their money is *invested*.
>>
>>
>> ....in Chinese factories, in European commodity markets,
>>in Swiss banks, in Bahamian resorts.
>
>They've been busily lining their pockets whilst sellout out the rest
>of us.
Poor Zepp... he's been sold out.. that's why he can't support
himself.... <LOL> Loser....
"Besides the fact that not all nuclear plants run using steam,"
--Milt Shook 2/28/08
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.rush-limbaugh/msg/429db13c5b5caf48
Canyon note: I'm still waiting for an example of one....