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Charging electric vehicles from wind power

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Surfer

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Nov 20, 2009, 2:15:27 AM11/20/09
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Denmark

".....A deal has been announced in 2008 between Project Better Place
(Palo Alto, US) and Danish utility Dong Energy that will lead to mass
production of electric vehicles and implementation of an extensive
recharging and battery swap infrastructure. This will act as storage
capacity for the country's wind power generation capability. "Two
million electric cars in circulation ... would provide a standby
capacity around five times the size of Denmark's needs ... with smart
charging systems charging batteries when the power's plentiful, and
even feeding power back into the grid when necessary."[9]..."

More here:

Denmark signs up for wind powered electric car switch
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/27/denmark_agassi_ev/


Israel electric car project aims to wipe out oil
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/22/israel_electric_car_project/


jg

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Nov 20, 2009, 5:28:43 PM11/20/09
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Apparently the critics can't see much wrong with that.

Krudd the Dud

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:22:51 PM11/20/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:28:43 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:

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>> Israel electric car project aims to wipe out oil
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/22/israel_electric_car_project/

How dare they!

Wait for UN to condemn Israel for this!

Mauried

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Nov 20, 2009, 7:39:59 PM11/20/09
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On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:28:43 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:

We are now nearly into 2010.
Where are the electric vehicles that the above projecr needs.
Who is making them.
The vehicles have to be specially made as the car owner doesnt own the
battery, so its got to be able to be swapped out easilty.
What is the battery technology .
This concept has been around for over 6 years now , and nothing has
happened.

jg

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:17:53 PM11/20/09
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They are not ready to sell one, I'm not ready to buy. It's only the
theory I like the sound of and renewable projects always seem to draw
criticism.

In 1900 there were more electric cars than any other. Maybe it can
happen again, but current models have to run their full life to provide
the necessary return before being mad obsolete.

Mauried

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:18:26 AM11/21/09
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Indeed there were.
Have you ever wondered why Henry Fords Model T was so successful.

jg

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Nov 21, 2009, 1:48:47 AM11/21/09
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I believe it was price mainly, but times have changed again. Batteries
are improving and oil getting more expensive and more rare.


Hatunen

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Nov 21, 2009, 5:42:07 PM11/21/09
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:48:47 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:

>I believe it was price mainly, but times have changed again. Batteries
>are improving and oil getting more expensive and more rare.

When I first began driving in 1954 a gallon of gas cost about
$0.29. According to an inflation calculator, that $0.29 would
today be about $2.30. Gasoline here in Tucson is currently
running about $2.40 a gallon (a month ago it was $2.20). That's
not really much more expensive.

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jg

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Nov 21, 2009, 6:51:29 PM11/21/09
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Hatunen wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:48:47 GMT, jg <j...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> I believe it was price mainly, but times have changed again. Batteries
>> are improving and oil getting more expensive and more rare.
>
> When I first began driving in 1954 a gallon of gas cost about
> $0.29. According to an inflation calculator, that $0.29 would
> today be about $2.30. Gasoline here in Tucson is currently
> running about $2.40 a gallon (a month ago it was $2.20). That's
> not really much more expensive.
>

Not sure how relative costs were when the model T came out, but petrol
is more like $10/gal in much of Europe now, ~$3 in Australia.

People squawk over a few cents a litre, but initial choice of vehicle
goes deeper than fuel price and fuel will only rise more.

Relative price, running and maintenance costs of electric vehicles could
be better now and all else being equal I believe many would prefer electric.

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