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JohnM

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Jan 3, 2010, 6:23:19 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 1, 2:50 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote:
> "JohnM" <john_howard_mor...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

<snip... anyone want to read it they can back up one post>

> So when your coastal cities are flooded as they will be and you have
> no control over that, move inland or go and live in Greenland. You
> can fight for control of land, homo neanderthalensis is a territorial
> animal and the fittest survive. Nuke the opposition and pass your own
> genes on.

As a humanist I consider the time is ripe to try and overcome this
overriding
flaw in Darwinian-type evolution and impose on nature a set of our
own,
uniquely-human rules about descent. We conquered space - we can
conquer
our own innate, animal nature by striving to understand and then deal
with it,
using a brain which organic evolution by DNA created for us. Let's
declare
natural selection dead once and for all.

Androcles

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:40:28 AM1/3/10
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"JohnM" <john_howa...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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On Jan 1, 2:50 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote:
> "JohnM" <john_howard_mor...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

<snip... anyone want to read it they can back up one post>

<unsnip... anyone want to read it they can do it here>

Some simple facts about climate.

Negative feedback:
1) Sun heats ocean.
2) Ocean evaporates and forms clouds.
3) Clouds reflect sunlight into space, reduce evaporation.
If you doubt it, feel the sunlight on your skin when a cloud
obscures the sun.
4) Less cloud forms, more heat is absorbed, more cloud forms,
less heat is absorbed; Earth's temperature remains constant.
If it gets warmer, it will cool. If it gets cooler, it will warm.


Positive feedback:
5) Snow falls on land and polar ice fields.
6) Snow/ice reflects sunlight into space, reduces heat absorption.
Water absorbs sunlight, increases energy intake. Ice reflects
sunlight, reduces energy intake. If you doubt it, take a swim
in the Gulf of Mexico and another in the Arctic Ocean.
7) Earth cools as it radiates heat to space, more snow falls,
more sunlight is reflected, result is an Ice Age. The colder
it is, the colder it will get. The warmer it is, the warmer
it will get.

Changing the balance:
8) Earth's orbit is elliptical.
9) Sunlight obeys the inverse square law.
10) Earth is tilted.
11) More sunlight reaches Earth at perihelion than at aphelion.
12) Earth's Great White Spot, Antarctica, reflects sunlight at
aphelion (Southern summer). Result, positive feedback
predominates, Ice Age.
13) Earth precesses. Earth's Great White Spot reflects sunlight
at perihelion (Northern summer). But Earth's Great White Spot
has no sunlight to reflect and the Northern Wet Spot (the Arctic
Ocean) has even more sunlight to melt its ice cap than it had
when it faced the Sun at aphelion. Water absorbs far more heat
than ice. Result: more sunlight absorbed, positive feedback,
global warming.

14) But it is offset by more cloud, see negative feedback above.
Overall result - a small change in temperature as a function of
precession.

15) CO2 levels rise as a consequence of a warmer planet, not as
the cause. Why? Because with more heat we have more thunderstorms
and more lightning and more forest fires, plants grow faster in a
richer CO2 atmosphere and the world gets greener instead of whiter.
Green is the good colour, white is the bad colour. Plants are green
because green absorbs sunlight. This is the rainforest effect.

16) Far more strange gases are vented to atmosphere by
volcanoes than by man. See "Carbon cycle".


It's been that way for at least 3 billion years; homo neanderthalensis
is alive and well and arrogant enough to say he causes it. He is,
of course, an idiot who thinks he can "combat" the quite natural
temperature cycle of a couple of degrees. Nature doesn't care if he
builds cities along the coast or birds build nests in trees, the rule is
ADAPT OR DIE.

So when your coastal cities are flooded as they will be and you have
no control over that, move inland or go and live in Greenland. You
can fight for control of land, homo neanderthalensis is a territorial
animal and the fittest survive. Nuke the opposition and pass your own
genes on.

<snip... anyone want to read Morgan they can back up one post>
(oops, nothing left to respond to).
This snipping is fun, isn't it?


JohnM

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:15:04 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 1, 2:50 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote:

> "JohnM" <john_howard_mor...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

<snip... anyone want to read it they can back up one post>

> So when your coastal cities are flooded as they will be and you have


> no control over that, move inland or go and live in Greenland. You
> can fight for control of land, homo neanderthalensis is a territorial
> animal and the fittest survive. Nuke the opposition and pass your own
> genes on.

As a humanist I consider the time is ripe to try and overcome this

JohnM

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Jan 3, 2010, 10:32:56 AM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 1:40 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote:
> "JohnM" <john_howard_mor...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:5bcd7362-fb7e-45b9...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 1, 2:50 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...@Hogwarts.physics_q> wrote:

<various irrelevant words, punctuation, paragraphs and bits of words
snipped>

> I'm a strange man.
> I's been that way for years; an idiot who doesn't care if he
> DIES.

> This snipping is fun, isn't it?

Why yes, it definitely is.

mrbawana2u

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Jan 3, 2010, 7:22:09 PM1/3/10
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On Jan 3, 6:23 am, JohnMoron <john_howard_mor...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>[duh,duh,duh,flush]

> Let's declare
> natural selection dead once and for all.

Long live parasites like JohnMoron.

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