AGW Conspiracy Theorists Are Now Up Against Every University On the Planet
Bret Cahill
"conspirators" . . .
Bret Cahill
1-20-2013
Aren't universities where the man-made global warming, er - uh, climate
change hoax was crafted and initiated in the first place? LOL!!!! :^D
ClimateGate once and for all exposed man-made gw/cc as nothing but a
massive, money-grabbing (especially for universities) *H-O-A-X*!!!
Rod Speed
> Bret Cahill wrote:
>> The idiots ought to boycott all the NCAA games as that just helps the "conspirators" . . .
> Aren't universities where the man-made global warming, er - uh,
> climate change hoax was crafted and initiated in the first place?
Nope, it was mostly in govt research operations.
> LOL!!!! :^D
> ClimateGate once and for all exposed man-made gw/cc as nothing but a massive, money-grabbing (especially for
> universities) *H-O-A-X*!!!
Another lie. It just shows that there has been a lot of fudging of the numbers.
M Purcell
>
> Aren't universities where the man-made global warming, er - uh, climate
> change hoax was crafted and initiated in the first place? LOL!!!! :^D
This is a circumstantial ad hominem such as "She asserts that we need
more military spending, but that is false, since she is only saying it
because she is a Republican."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
> ClimateGate once and for all exposed man-made gw/cc as nothing but a
> massive, money-grabbing (especially for universities) *H-O-A-X*!!!
And this is an attempt to poison the well from a poisoned well.
1-20-2013
And the idea of man-made global warming, er - uh, climate change is a
steaming pile of (oops, there might be kids reading) ;^D
http://ithoughtathink.blogspot.com/2009/12/steaming-pile-of-horseshit.html
Michael Gordge
> 1-20-2013 wrote:
> > Bret Cahill wrote:
> >> The idiots ought to boycott all the NCAA games as that just helps the "conspirators" . . .
> > Aren't universities where the man-made global warming, er - uh,
> > climate change hoax was crafted and initiated in the first place?
>
> Nope, it was mostly in govt research operations.
e.g. state funded universities.
MG
M Purcell
Do you believe your use of logical fallacies is enough to recommend
your opinion?
Rod Speed
> e.g. state funded universities.
There are plenty that arent, like CSIRO, DSIR, NASA etc etc etc.
Fred Weiss
> Do you believe your use of logical fallacies is enough to recommend
> your opinion?
Gee, an increasing number of people are now asking precisely that of
the enviroHysterics.
There's a relatively small group who have been on to them from the
start, but those numbers are now growing. In all likelihood the jig is
up but since this particular hysteria has an obviously profound
religious-like component with a clearly politicized edge to it, it
probably won't go easily.
ClimateGate was an Inconvenient Truth.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/12/24/why-climate-change-is-hot-hot-hot/#more-98457
Fred Weiss
M Purcell
> On Jan 3, 4:16 pm, M Purcell <sacsca...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Do you believe your use of logical fallacies is enough to recommend
> > your opinion?
>
> Gee, an increasing number of people are now asking precisely that of
> the enviroHysterics.
>
> There's a relatively small group who have been on to them from the
> start, but those numbers are now growing. In all likelihood the jig is
> up but since this particular hysteria has an obviously profound
> religious-like component with a clearly politicized edge to it, it
> probably won't go easily.
>
> ClimateGate was an Inconvenient Truth.
So is your stupidity, religious, political, or otherwise and your
ignorance of logical fallacies.
Bret Cahill
> > > your opinion?
>
> > Gee, an increasing number of people are now asking precisely that of
> > the enviroHysterics.
>
> > There's a relatively small group who have been on to them from the
> > start, but those numbers are now growing. In all likelihood the jig is
> > up but since this particular hysteria has an obviously profound
> > religious-like component with a clearly politicized edge to it, it
> > probably won't go easily.
>
> > ClimateGate was an Inconvenient Truth.
>
> So is your stupidity, religious, political, or otherwise and your
> ignorance of logical fallacies.
They claim every last university on the entire planet is part of a
conspiracy.
They are as bat crap insane as the Holocaust deniers.
Period.
Bret Cahill
Last Post
>
> Another lie. It just shows that there has been a lot of fudging of the numbers.
• Poor Rodney, you can't separate bright from
wrong. The fudged data destroyed $ Billions
of work in almost every university in the world.
That makes it a monumental fraud.
— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena
Rod Speed
>>> ClimateGate once and for all exposed man-made gw/cc as nothing
>>> but a massive, money-grabbing (especially for universities) H-O-A-X!!!
>> Another lie. It just shows that there has been a lot of fudging of the numbers.
> � Poor Rodney, you can't separate bright from wrong.
Poor gutless, cant manage to let go of its dick.
> The fudged data destroyed $ Billions of work in almost every university in the world.
Another bare faced lie.
> That makes it a monumental fraud.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, as always.
Last Post
>
> > The fudged data destroyed $ Billions of work in almost every university in the world.
>
> Another bare faced lie.
>
> > That makes it a monumental fraud.
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, as always.
• Typical fascist response
Rod Speed
>>> The fudged data destroyed $ Billions of work in almost every university in the world.
>> Another bare faced lie.
>>> That makes it a monumental fraud.
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, as always.
> � Typical fascist response
You wouldnt know what a real fascist was if one bit you on your lard arse, child.
Michael Price
So the fact that one of the biggest climate change supporters
was caught admitting that the hurricane data didn't support AGW,
at the same time as he was destroying the career of an honest
scientist who said the same thing means what? Oh right, nothing
means anything to you expect "Bret Cahill was right.".
AZDuffman
> 1-20-2013 wrote:
> > Bret Cahill wrote:
> >> The idiots ought to boycott all the NCAA games as that just helps the "conspirators" . . .
> > Aren't universities where the man-made global warming, er - uh,
> > climate change hoax was crafted and initiated in the first place?
>
> Nope, it was mostly in govt research operations.
Plenty of universities are govt research operations, fool.
AZDuffman
No, some like Grove City and Brigham Young are still OK.
Bret Cahill
Don't forget Liberty U. where creationism is science.
AGW conspiracy theorists ought to boycott anything that has to do with
the 99% of higher education, private as well as public, that thinks
the AGW conspiracy theorists are bat crap insane.
Don't watch any NCAA games, shun any health care innovations that
didn't come from BYU and Liberty . . .
Bret Cahill
Bret Cahill
> > "conspirators" . . .
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> So the fact that one of the biggest climate change supporters
> was caught admitting that the hurricane data didn't support AGW,
With zero encouragement from anyone I ripped Al Gore on that issue a
couple years ago after Gore tried to use Katrina.
The fact that _some_ climate scientists do not fully understand every
issue doesn't change the conclusions of the science any more than not
having discovered the missing link discredits evolution.
> at the same time as he was destroying the career of an honest
> scientist
What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
Bret Cahill
Fred Weiss
> What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
Well, that depends on whether the ClimateGaters get jail time, doesn't
it?
And whether you think they are honest, which clearly they aren't.
It may not matter in the end as their hoax crumbles in front of our
eyes and they become more hysterical, desperate, and ridiculous in
trying to defend it.
Sort of like you and your pal, Tiggy, are doing.
Fred Weiss
Bret Cahill
> scientist
What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
> > What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
> Well, that depends on whether the ClimateGaters get jail time, doesn't
> it?
In other words, no serious atmospheric scientist has had his career
destroyed.
Here's another question that conspiracy theorists are sure to dodge:
Does anyone know the names of any conspiracy theorist scientists even
_claiming_ to feel threatened?
And _no_ creationists, dowsers and other wackadoodles don't count.
> And whether you think they are honest, which clearly they aren't.
>
> It may not matter in the end as their hoax crumbles in front of our
> eyes and they become more hysterical, desperate, and ridiculous in
> trying to defend it.
>
> Sort of like you and your pal, Tiggy, are doing.
You never answered tg's question: Can the average temp. drop with
most of the polar ice melting?
Bret Cahill
Mark M.
Cheers, Mike.
Mark
Rod Speed
> Bret Cahill <BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote
>> What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
> Well, that depends on whether the ClimateGaters get jail time, doesn't it?
Nope, because none of them will.
> And whether you think they are honest, which clearly they aren't.
What he or you thinks is irrelevant to destroying their career.
> It may not matter in the end as their hoax crumbles
> in front of our eyes and they become more hysterical,
> desperate, and ridiculous in trying to defend it.
Just another of your lies.
DanB
> On Jan 4, 11:23 am, Bret Cahill<BretCah...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>> What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
>
> Well, that depends on whether the ClimateGaters get jail time, doesn't
> it?
>
> And whether you think they are honest, which clearly they aren't.
Fred's video:
<http://www.youtube.com/user/HorseCents#p/a/u/0/UB4FGB7o4nM>
Bret Cahill
>
> > Well, that depends on whether the ClimateGaters get jail time, doesn't
> > it?
>
> > And whether you think they are honest, which clearly they aren't.
>
> Fred's video:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/user/HorseCents#p/a/u/0/UB4FGB7o4nM>
Fred, can you play the theme from _Deliverance_ too?
Bret Cahill
Michael Price
> > > The idiots ought to boycott all the NCAA games as that just helps the
> > > "conspirators" . . .
>
> > > Bret Cahill
>
> > So the fact that one of the biggest climate change supporters
> > was caught admitting that the hurricane data didn't support AGW,
>
> With zero encouragement from anyone I ripped Al Gore on that issue a
> couple years ago after Gore tried to use Katrina.
>
> The fact that _some_ climate scientists do not fully understand every
> issue doesn't change the conclusions of the science any more than not
> having discovered the missing link discredits evolution.
The problem is that he did understand the data and vilified the
person presenting it.
>
> > at the same time as he was destroying the career of an honest
> > scientist
>
> What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
>
> Bret Cahill
Well for a start the editor of a science magazine who was fired
for allowing one skeptical article in it.
Michael Price
>
> Bret Cahill
But the so-called Climategate scandal, which illuminated efforts by
climate change scientists to squelch opposition viewpoints, has now
caught up to one scientist, Kevin Trenberth, who vociferously and
influentially demanded that Pielke's paper be shunned.
Trenberth works in the same town as Pielke and is one of the top
researchers on the strongly warmist Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change (IPCC). In a leaked e-mail from two months ago, he admitted to
colleagues what he had hidden from the outside world: that there's
been no measurable warming over the past decade.
Yet two years earlier he told Congress that evidence for man-made
warming was "unequivocal" and things were "apt to get much worse." And
in 2005 he told the local newspaper that Pielke's Bulletin article was
"shameful" and should be "withdrawn."
"Our paper shouldn't have been controversial," notes Pielke today,
"and since then our conclusions have been reinforced by the IPPC." The
panel's latest report, from 2007, concluded that whether warming is
causing increased hurricane activity is "pretty much a toss of a
coin."
Yet Pielke's paper was excluded from that report. Why? Says Pielke, "a
scientist at a high level of the IPCC saw fit to disparage a paper in
his domain, said it should be ignored by the panel, and subsequently
it was." He added, "After seeing [leaked] e-mail discussions in which
the scientists talked about keeping literature out of the report ...
well, you can connect the dots."
But it wasn't just Trenberth. In one of the hacked e-mails, Phil
Jones, director of the British climate center from which the e-mails
were stolen (and who has since resigned) wrote to colleagues about
Pielke's complaints of not being published, "Maybe you'll be able to
ignore them?"
Michael Price
Sorry you scumbag liar they were caught conspiring.
An example:
Bret Cahill
> > > > The idiots ought to boycott all the NCAA games as that just helps the
> > > > "conspirators" . . .
>
> > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > So the fact that one of the biggest climate change supporters
> > > was caught admitting that the hurricane data didn't support AGW,
>
> > With zero encouragement from anyone I ripped Al Gore on that issue a
> > couple years ago after Gore tried to use Katrina.
>
> > The fact that _some_ climate scientists do not fully understand every
> > issue doesn't change the conclusions of the science any more than not
> > having discovered the missing link discredits evolution.
>
> The problem is that he did understand the data and vilified the
> person presenting it.
Again, who was destroyed professionally?
> > > at the same time as he was destroying the career of an honest
> > > scientist
>
> > What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
>
> > Bret Cahill
>
> Well for a start the editor of a science magazine who was fired
> for allowing one skeptical article in it.
Who wrote what article in what magazine?
And who got fired?
There are more urban legends floating around AGW than Email videos
about traffic collisions.
It's just whatever they want to believe, they believe.
Bret Cahill
Last Post
> Last Post wrote:
> > • Poor Rodney, you can't separate right from wrong.
>
> Poor gutless, cant manage to let go of its dick.
• Proof please?
>
> > The fudged data destroyed $ Billions of work in almost every university in the world.
>
> Another bare faced lie.
• Proof please?
>
> > That makes it a monumental fraud.
>
> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, as always.
• Poor Rodney, like all fascist fools has to use
silly flames to hide his ignorance
• If you want real facts read:—
Message-ID: <bc421438-9c9a-420a-8151-
dd28d4...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>
• The AGW alarmist pack presume to be able
control a climate on a planet, spun off from
the Sun and still in the solar system and in
the Sun's control.
So I ask them and you 3 questions:
1- Can you make the wind to blow?
2- Can you make the rain to fall?
3- Can you stop a hurricane?
• If the answer to these are no then get the hell
out of town before the lynch mob comes
Rod Speed
>>> Poor Rodney, you can't separate right from wrong.
>> Poor gutless, cant manage to let go of its dick.
> Proof please?
Post a pic, we can see for ourselves.
>>> The fudged data destroyed $ Billions of work in almost every university in the world.
>> Another bare faced lie.
> Proof please?
Record's stuck, child.
>>> That makes it a monumental fraud.
>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, as always.
> Poor Rodney, like all fascist fools has to use silly flames to hide his ignorance
Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh child ?
> . If you want real facts read:-
> Message-ID: <bc421438-9c9a-420a-8151-
> dd28d4...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>
Just because some fool claims something, doesnt make it a fact, child.
Last Post
> Last Post wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Last Post wrote
> >>> Poor Rodney, you can't separate right from wrong.
> >> Poor gutless, cant manage to let go of its dick.
> > Proof please?
>
> Post a pic, we can see for ourselves.
>
> >>> The fudged data destroyed $ Billions of work in almost every university in the world.
> >> Another bare faced lie.
> > Proof please?
>
> Record's stuck, child.
>
> >>> That makes it a monumental fraud.
> >> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, as always.
> > Poor Rodney, like all fascist fools has to use silly flames to hide his ignorance
>
> Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh child ?
>
> > . If you want real facts read:-
> > Message-ID: <bc421438-9c9a-420a-8151-
>
> Just because some fool claims something, doesnt make it a fact, child.
• ROTFLMAO
Evasions noted.
You have no clue.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> Last Post wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Last Post wrote
>>>>> Poor Rodney, you can't separate right from wrong.
>>>> Poor gutless, cant manage to let go of its dick.
>>> Proof please?
>> Post a pic, we can see for ourselves.
>>>>> The fudged data destroyed $ Billions of work in almost every university in the world.
>>>> Another bare faced lie.
>>> Proof please?
>> Record's stuck, child.
>>>>> That makes it a monumental fraud.
>>>> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, as always.
>>> Poor Rodney, like all fascist fools has to use silly flames to hide his ignorance
>> Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh child ?
>>> . If you want real facts read:-
>>> Message-ID: <bc421438-9c9a-420a-8151-
>>> dd28d4b22...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>
>> Just because some fool claims something, doesnt make it a fact, child.
> ROTFLMAO
Thats exactly what children do, child.
Bret Cahill
> > >>> Poor Rodney, you can't separate right from wrong.
> > >> Poor gutless, cant manage to let go of its dick.
> > > Proof please?
>
> > Post a pic, we can see for ourselves.
>
> > >>> The fudged data destroyed $ Billions of work in almost every university in the world.
> > >> Another bare faced lie.
> > > Proof please?
>
> > Record's stuck, child.
>
> > >>> That makes it a monumental fraud.
> > >> Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasys, as always.
> > > Poor Rodney, like all fascist fools has to use silly flames to hide his ignorance
>
> > Corse you never ever do anything like that yourself, eh child ?
>
> > > . If you want real facts read:-
> > > Message-ID: <bc421438-9c9a-420a-8151-
> > > dd28d4b22...@h10g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>
>
> > Just because some fool claims something, doesnt make it a fact, child.
>
> • ROTFLMAO
> Evasions noted.
> You have no clue.
That's why you need to clue everyone in with your youtube video:
"CO2 Is Good for You"
Use a clear plastic bag and include a poster board sign that says:
100% natural organic CO2."
Bret Cahill
Michael Price
> > > > > The idiots ought to boycott all the NCAA games as that just helps the
> > > > > "conspirators" . . .
>
> > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > So the fact that one of the biggest climate change supporters
> > > > was caught admitting that the hurricane data didn't support AGW,
>
> > > With zero encouragement from anyone I ripped Al Gore on that issue a
> > > couple years ago after Gore tried to use Katrina.
>
> > > The fact that _some_ climate scientists do not fully understand every
> > > issue doesn't change the conclusions of the science any more than not
> > > having discovered the missing link discredits evolution.
>
> > The problem is that he did understand the data and vilified the
> > person presenting it.
>
> Again, who was destroyed professionally?
>
> > > > at the same time as he was destroying the career of an honest
> > > > scientist
>
> > > What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
>
> > > Bret Cahill
>
> > Well for a start the editor of a science magazine who was fired
> > for allowing one skeptical article in it.
>
> Who wrote what article in what magazine?
Oh look it up yourself. I know whatever I say you'll ignore it.
> And who got fired?
>
> There are more urban legends floating around AGW than Email videos
> about traffic collisions.
Name one.
Scotius
<BretC...@aol.com> wrote:
>The idiots ought to boycott all the NCAA games as that just helps the
>"conspirators" . . .
>
>
>Bret Cahill
Your drumbeat obligato doesn't change anything about the fact
that (mainly) leftist professors tried to make sure that their data
matched their hype, and even discussed ways of presenting their data
to the public to make their positions on AGW seem more reasonable.
That's not credible science. Sorry.
Oh, and don't say "every university". We all know global
warming is happening, but it's happening on Mars too chia-head, and it
isn't because of pollution there.
By the way, did you ever consider how PRO-industry the global
warming thing is?
Back in the '70s the "hippies" protested POLLUTION. Now
because of all the "global warming" data, all industries are being
asked to limit is the emissions that contain "greenhouse gases", with
the rest presumably being okay. Well, the rest are not okay.
Quit being a rube.
Bret Cahill
> > > > > > "conspirators" . . .
>
> > > > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > > > So the fact that one of the biggest climate change supporters
> > > > > was caught admitting that the hurricane data didn't support AGW,
>
> > > > With zero encouragement from anyone I ripped Al Gore on that issue a
> > > > couple years ago after Gore tried to use Katrina.
>
> > > > The fact that _some_ climate scientists do not fully understand every
> > > > issue doesn't change the conclusions of the science any more than not
> > > > having discovered the missing link discredits evolution.
>
> > > The problem is that he did understand the data and vilified the
> > > person presenting it.
>
> > Again, who was destroyed professionally?
>
> > > > > at the same time as he was destroying the career of an honest
> > > > > scientist
>
> > > > What honest scientist has had his career destroyed?
>
> > > > Bret Cahill
>
> > > Well for a start the editor of a science magazine who was fired
> > > for allowing one skeptical article in it.
>
> > Who wrote what article in what magazine?
> > \]
>
> Oh look it up yourself.
Try that in a peer reviewed journal.
Bret Cahill