Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
Harry Hope
From ABC News, 11/24/09:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
Climate Summit
By BILL BLAKEMORE
There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
26 scientists from eight countries.
Sea level rise, ocean acidification and the rapid melting of massive
ice sheets are among the significantly increased effects of
human-induced global warming assessed in the survey, which also
examines the emissions of heat-trapping gases that are causing the
climate change.
"Many indicators are currently tracking near or above the worst-case
projections" made three years ago by the world's scientists, the new
Copenhagen Diagnosis said. http://copenhagendiagnosis.com/
Nor has manmade global warming slowed or paused, as some headlines
have recently suggested, according to the report, which you can see
here. http://copenhagendiagnosis.com/
The scientists also calculate that the world's emissions of
heat-trapping gases must peak in less than 10 years and then dive
quickly to nearly zero, if warming of more than another 2 degrees
Fahrenheit above the current annual global temperature is to be
prevented after 2050.
...................................................................................................................
This is the first comprehensive update of leading peer-reviewed
climate science in the three years since the last report of the
intentionally thorough and slow-paced Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change was finalized.
That report is now widely recognized to be out of date in important
ways.
This is because over the past three years, hundreds of new scientific
field accounts of global warming's impacts, as well as improved
peer-reviewed analyses of global warming itself in both the deep past
and the very near future, have depicted earth's atmosphere as far more
"sensitive" to the invisible CO2, methane and other human-sourced
greenhouse gases than had been hoped.
"Mother nature puts a limit on how long you can dither and
procrastinate," climatologist Richard Somerville, one of the study's
authors, told ABC News.
'Abrupt or Irreversible Change' If It's 'Business as Usual'
"We found that several vulnerable elements in Earth's climate system
-- like the Amazon and other big rain forests, like the great ice
sheets that have so much sea level locked up in their ice -- could be
pushed toward abrupt or irreversible change if we go on toward 2100
with our business-as-usual increase in emissions of greenhouse gases,"
he said.
Global Warming Report Out in Time for Copenhagen Summit
Because the next IPCC report is not due before 2013, there had been a
growing concern among many of the world's climate scientists that an
update of the latest solid data would be needed, he said, if
negotiations by the 192 nations gathering at the Copenhagen climate
summit, scheduled for Dec. 7-18, were to be based on reality.
By phone from his base at Scripps Institution of Oceanography in
California, Somerville told ABC News that the 26 authors of the survey
all donated their time and expertise.
"The money we needed for basic transportation to get us to and from
our big global review session in Copenhagen in March and for basic
communication expenses turned up from the Live Earth philanthropy,"
Somerville said.
Live Earth, founded by producer Kevin Wall, in partnership with former
Vice President Al Gore, is a for-profit company that uses concerts,
media and other events to encourage awareness worldwide about
environmental issues.
"They've had no influence or involvement of any kind with the report
itself," he said.
"That is entirely under the control of the 26 authors from the eight
countries, all widely respected -- and many of them are lead authors
of IPCC studies. They're known quantities in the peer-reviewed science
world."
Though this report is not "officially" from the IPCC, which makes no
provisions for comprehensive mid-term reports halfway through its
five- or six-year reporting cycle, Somerville said he and his fellow
authors expect that it will be accepted by their peers in climate
research around the world.
"This report is firmly based on more than 200 recent peer-reviewed
papers clearly listed in the report," he said.
The authors said they were aiming not only at policy makers, but also
at the general public.
Common misconceptions about global warming are dealt with in separate
side-bar boxes, explaining why, for example, the human-induced warming
has not slowed or paused, contrary to some recent headlines.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/GlobalWarming/global-warming-common-misconceptions/story?id=9159877
The authors also give a relatively reassuring assessment about the
chances of an uncontrollable "runaway" global temperature rise in the
near future.
Sea Level, Ice, Acidification, Emission -- New Science
Their findings include:
--- Sea Level Rise this century is likely to be "at least twice that
projected" three years ago, with enormous humanitarian and economic
impacts.
It could well be around three feet before the year 2100, says the
report.
Just a fraction of that increase in sea level could displace many
millions of people and greatly increase vulnerability to storms.
A sea-level rise of 6 � feet is now considered by the scientists to be
a reasonable "upper bound" of estimates -- a distinct possibility.
Global Warming Report: Ice Sheets, Glaciers Melting Faster
Than Predicted
---All ice types, including massive ice sheets, mountain glaciers and
Arctic sea ice (frozen sea-surface), are for the most part melting far
faster than predicted three years ago.
---Greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming are surging,
with global emissions from burning fossil fuels now 40 percent higher
than in 1990 and climbing.
Scientists are at constant pains to point out that recent (or any)
slight and brief emissions drops in a few countries cause no reduction
of the greenhouse gas concentrations in the atmosphere that set the
global temperature thermostat.
This is because CO2 emissions stay in the air for hundreds of years.
Somerville and other scientists say they frequently have to make sure
people they talk to understand the difference between "emissions" --
the amount of additional heat-trapping gas humanity puts in the
atmosphere per year, and "concentrations" -- the amount of those gases
that has piled up in the atmosphere and goes on hanging there for a
long time.
Concentrations, which are measured in parts per million, have been
rising steadily since the beginning of the industrial age some two
centuries ago.
Devilish Coincidence: CO2 Plus H2O Makes Acid
---Ocean acidification has been discovered in the past two years to be
rising into fish-rich shallow waters far faster than oceanographers
expected.
A significant portion of the CO2 emissions that trap heat in the
atmosphere are absorbed by the oceans.
By an apparently devilish coincidence, this same molecule that warms
the atmosphere, CO2, happens, when combined with H20, to form carbonic
acid.
Scientists report the sea is already 30 percent more acidic than it
was at the start of the industrial age.
A wide range of studies and reports of damage to sea life as a result
of this rise in acidity is now coming in from the world's marine
biologists.
Relative Good News: 'No Strong Evidence' Overall Tipping Point
There is one piece of relatively good news from the scientists in this
report, in regard to what it calls "much talk in the popular media"
about the possibility of "runaway" climate change.
It says this would be what's sometimes called "a global tipping
point," in which many amplifying feedbacks around the world produce a
cumulative effect in which Earth enters a "change in state, carried by
its own internal dynamics."
Many amplifying feedbacks are closely monitored by scientists,
including thawing tundra and dying forest releasing massive amounts of
heat-trapping CO2, and the way in which the growing amount of darkened
land absorbs more of the sun's heat, thus further warming the ground
and air.
Such a "change of state" could be uncontrollable, and possibly, some
have worried, so fast that food supplies and human civilization in
general would collapse.
Of this most frightening prospect, the report says clearly:
"There is as yet no strong evidence that the Earth as a whole is near
such a threshold. Instead 'amplified' climate change is a much better
description of what we currently observe and project for the future."
In other words, though painful changes are apparently coming in the
next few decades and before there is a chance of getting Earth's
rising annual global temperature to level off, there is still time,
according to the latest science, to avoid the very worst.
At least, it says, "there is as yet no strong evidence" that such an
overall threshold "is near."
_____________________________________________________
Harry
TUKA
>
> From ABC News, 11/24/09:
> http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>
> Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
>
> 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
> Climate Summit
>
> By BILL BLAKEMORE
>
> There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
> recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
> 26 scientists from eight countries.
Yeah, right. Snooze.
Malthusians and end-of-worlders have been spectacularly wrong for
millenia, and here they are spectacularly wrong yet again.
End of world prediction scores: 0 for 10,000
Climategate shows they are now zero for 10,001.
--
Fast, reliable, cheap. Pick two and we'll talk.
-- unknown
JohnM
> On 2009-11-24, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From ABC News, 11/24/09:
> >http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>
> > Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
>
> > 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
> > Climate Summit
>
> > By BILL BLAKEMORE
>
> > There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
> > recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
> > 26 scientists from eight countries.
>
> Yeah, right. Snooze.
>
> Malthusians and end-of-worlders have been spectacularly wrong
Not sure which planet you are on, but here on earth the number of
malnourished people is running at over 1 billion,
http://www.fao.org/wsfs/world-summit/en/
with around 0.5 million dying from hunger weekly
That's one person every two to three seconds.
> for
> millenia, and here they are spectacularly wrong yet again.
>
> End of world prediction scores: 0 for 10,000
The end of the world just happened for around 200 people while I was
writing this.
Ouroboros Rex
Same old made-up crap. lol
Catoni
>"Not sure which planet you are on, but here on earth the number of
>malnourished people is running at over 1 billion,
>with around 0.5 million dying from hunger weekly
>That's one person every two to three seconds.
>The end of the world just happened for around 200 people while I was
>writing this."
Reply:
And spending HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on AGW
studies and leftist "feel goody" flights all over the world to go to
conferences over the last few decades is helping them exactly
how ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Much better would have been spending the money on helping them
with their agriculture and putting in clean water systems and building
them schools and clinics. And helping them get rid of their tin-pot
dictatorships and creating free democracys and republics.
But you idiots know so much better then us don't you ? ? ?
tunderbar
> On Nov 24, 5:19 pm, TUKA <t...@tuka.valuemedia.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 2009-11-24, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > > From ABC News, 11/24/09:
> > >http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>
> > > Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
>
> > > 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
> > > Climate Summit
>
> > > By BILL BLAKEMORE
>
> > > There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
> > > recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
> > > 26 scientists from eight countries.
>
> > Yeah, right. Snooze.
>
> > Malthusians and end-of-worlders have been spectacularly wrong
>
> Not sure which planet you are on, but here on earth the number of
> malnourished people is running at over 1 billion,
>
> http://www.fao.org/wsfs/world-summit/en/
>
> with around 0.5 million dying from hunger weekly
>
> http://www.starvation.net/
>
> That's one person every two to three seconds.
So let's take all our resources for the next 50 years and blow it all
on Al Gore's cap and trade scheme, his smart grid, and on more
research from CRU, Mike Mann, Fudger Hansen and Cherry-picker Oreskes.
That's help the starving people of the world.
Maximust
> On Nov 24, 5:19�pm, TUKA <t...@tuka.valuemedia.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-11-24, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > From ABC News, 11/24/09:
>> >http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>>
>> > Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
>>
>> > 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
>> > Climate Summit
>>
>> > By BILL BLAKEMORE
>>
>> > There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
>> > recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
>> > 26 scientists from eight countries.
>>
>> Yeah, right. Snooze.
>>
>> Malthusians and end-of-worlders have been spectacularly wrong
>
> Not sure which planet you are on, but here on earth the number of
> malnourished people is running at over 1 billion,
>
> http://www.fao.org/wsfs/world-summit/en/
>
> with around 0.5 million dying from hunger weekly
>
> http://www.starvation.net/
>
> That's one person every two to three seconds.
Trying to connect with a conservative over an altruistic point is pointless.
Conservatives should be the ones starving to death.
I M @ good guy
<john_howa...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>On Nov 24, 5:19 pm, TUKA <t...@tuka.valuemedia.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-11-24, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > From ABC News, 11/24/09:
>> >http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>>
>> > Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
>>
>> > 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
>> > Climate Summit
>>
>> > By BILL BLAKEMORE
>>
>> > There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
>> > recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
>> > 26 scientists from eight countries.
>>
>> Yeah, right. Snooze.
>>
>> Malthusians and end-of-worlders have been spectacularly wrong
>
>Not sure which planet you are on, but here on earth the number of
>malnourished people is running at over 1 billion,
>
>http://www.fao.org/wsfs/world-summit/en/
Because of CO2? Are you both senile and demented?
> with around 0.5 million dying from hunger weekly
>
>http://www.starvation.net/
>
>That's one person every two to three seconds.
And it is not because of a shortage of food, in fact,
part of the problem is the UN, that of distribution, plus
the leftist rebels and dictators and socialist wars in Africa.
>> for
>> millenia, and here they are spectacularly wrong yet again.
>>
>> End of world prediction scores: 0 for 10,000
>
>The end of the world just happened for around 200 people while I was
>writing this.
Probably a lot more than that, but not from CO2.
CO2 on the brain doesn't seem to be fatal,
it just causes a bad case of stupid.
In all seriousness, if the third world does not
adopt the potato as a staple, there will not ever be
enough nutrition to go around.
I don't know about markets in the rest of the
world, but locally here, food storage is bulging, but
there are a number of 'feed the hungry' programs.
and a lot of people on food stamps, an individual
with an income of $1,000 a month can get a few
dollars worth of food stamps.
I don't know where potatoes will not grow, but
where they will they need to be planted so that
distribution distances are not so great, and so
less hostile borders need to be crossed.
Any leftist that uses such an argument as
a shortage of food because of CO2 warming is
not only a rat, but also stupid to think that any
part of that nonsense will be believed.
Bret Cahill
Bret Cahill
> From ABC News, 11/24/09:http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>
> Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
>
> 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
> Climate Summit
>
> By BILL BLAKEMORE
>
> There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
> recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
> 26 scientists from eight countries.
>
> Sea level rise, ocean acidification and the rapid melting of massive
> ice sheets are among the significantly increased effects of
> human-induced global warming assessed in the survey, which also
> examines the emissions of heat-trapping gases that are causing the
> climate change.
>
> "Many indicators are currently tracking near or above the worst-case
> projections" made three years ago by the world's scientists, the new
> Copenhagen Diagnosis said.http://copenhagendiagnosis.com/
>
> Nor has manmade global warming slowed or paused, as some headlines
> have recently suggested, according to the report, which you can see
> here.http://copenhagendiagnosis.com/
>
> The scientists also calculate that the world's emissions of
> heat-trapping gases must peak in less than 10 years and then dive
> quickly to nearly zero, if warming of more than another 2 degrees
> Fahrenheit above the current annual global temperature is to be
> prevented after 2050.
>
> ...................................................................................................................
> has not slowed or paused, contrary to some recent headlines.http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology/GlobalWarming/global-warming-com...
Cat_in_awe
> On Nov 24, 5:19 pm, TUKA <t...@tuka.valuemedia.com> wrote:
>> On 2009-11-24, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> From ABC News, 11/24/09:
>>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>>
>>> Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
>>
>>> 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
>>> Climate Summit
>>
>>> By BILL BLAKEMORE
>>
>>> There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming
>>> than recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific
>>> assessment by 26 scientists from eight countries.
>>
>> Yeah, right. Snooze.
>>
>> Malthusians and end-of-worlders have been spectacularly wrong
>
> Not sure which planet you are on, but here on earth the number of
> malnourished people is running at over 1 billion,
>
> http://www.fao.org/wsfs/world-summit/en/
>
> with around 0.5 million dying from hunger weekly
>
> http://www.starvation.net/
>
> That's one person every two to three seconds.
If these poor people had access to cheap and plentiful energy, they'd stop
starving. But then they'd have a carbon footprint, so NO WAY, it's no-CO2
or the highway.
JohnM
Indeed we do. Us idiots know that most of the world's wealth is in the
hands of a few hundred thousand people, who would prefer to pass it
about among themselves rather than see it spent on saving the lives of
starving people. Try proposing a wealth tax for those having more than
$1 billion and watch the money roll in - to the coffers of the
political opposition.
The worst of it is that pathetic wage slaves like you slurp up all the
nonsense about trickle down, and other stupidities.
tunderbar
> From ABC News, 11/24/09:http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>
> Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
>
> 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
> Climate Summit
>
> By BILL BLAKEMORE
>
> There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
> recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
> 26 scientists from eight countries.
>
> Sea level rise, ocean acidification and the rapid melting of massive
> ice sheets are among the significantly increased effects of
> human-induced global warming assessed in the survey, which also
> examines the emissions of heat-trapping gases that are causing the
> climate change.
>
> "Many indicators are currently tracking near or above the worst-case
> projections" made three years ago by the world's scientists, the new
>
Catoni
>
> - Show quoted text -
Put your money where your mouth is and instead crying crocodile
tears about people dying every day in poor countries and spending
hundreds of billions or even trillions of dollars on phony AGW
studies....
USE THE MONEY TO BUILD SCHOOLS AND EDUCATE, CREATE CLEAN WATER
SUPPLIES, AND HOSPITALS, AND AGRICULTURAL TOOLS, AND BRING DOWN THEIR
DICTATORSHIPS AND CREATE FREE GOVERNMENTS AND SOCIETIES FOR THE POOR
IN THE THIRD WORLD.
If you worked to raise them to our level..... instead of trying to
lower us to their level... it would benefit everyone.
If you guys were really serious about the poor in the third
world... then imagine what even half of that money could do for them..
But the AGW "GREEN" scientists and organizations and government
funders won't do it... Because they truely don't give a damn.
The truth is.. they don't care about them, they don't give a damn
about individuals, people dying in the third world are only
statistics....
They care about "Social Engineering" on a world scale to take
freedom and wealth from the western nations.. and build some sort of
strong international control for their totalitarian dreams..
John M.
Hahahaha... and you have the khutzpah to call me an idiot. Take a real
long look at yourself, you looney conspiracy-theorist, if you dare to
open your eyes. And then take a good look in your shopping basket at
all the food you've just stolen from those 100 kids who died from
malnutrition in the time it takes to write this.
We all know lame-brain neo-cons won't take responsibility for the
consequences of their capitalistic greed. They think that invisible
sky fairy they worship is coming to bail them out with the "Rapture™",
to float them all away from the destruction of a planet they have
wrecked. And you are a willing accomplice.
At least I stand in opposition to you bastards, and try to make daily
sacrifices in my life-style, admittedly without risking my family
suffering the fate of the 100 kids that just died.
What do you do, you fucking arsehole? Bugger all, except preach on
Usenet, like all the rest of the denialists - you know climate is
changing, you know mankind is causing it. Yet you pretend it isn't,
pretend that we can solve the problem of global hunger by stopping all
spending on research and mitigation. When the starving billions start
stringing up those $1 million-bonus, bank CEOs from lamp posts, I
kinda hope they'll find a pole for you. It's less than you deserve,
you piece of shit.
Last Post
On Nov 24, 10:58 am, Harry Hope <riv...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> From ABC News, 11/24/09:http://www.abcnews.go.com/print?id=9159815
>
> Global Warming Report Finds Time Running Out
•• Since global warming is a myth,
why is "Time Running Out"???
>
> 26 Scientists Say Assessment Gives World Leaders Solid Data for
> Climate Summit
•• "Solid Data" all of it crooked up in those BSI = BSO crookers
> By BILL BLAKEMORE
>
> There's even less time for humanity to try to curb global warming than
> recently thought, according to a new in-depth scientific assessment by
> 26 scientists from eight countries.
•• ROTFLMAO!!! 26 bought and paid by UN money
(60% US) delivered on time a 'report' designed to
misdirect and delude heads of state to buy into their
rape of the world.
•• Does anyone, except a few trolls on usenet, believe
that any or all of the 26 together, even once make
the rain to fall? Of course not! But that is what
IPCC is claiming.
>
> Sea level rise,
•• not happening
ocean acidification
•• irrelevant
> and the rapid melting of massive
> ice sheets
•• The case in the Antarctic is two fold. Every year in
the southern summer some of the older ice that had
worked its way and outward and formed in effect
icebergs, while still attached to the land gets flexed
by rising & falling tides and the outer ring breaks
off. Each year more or less falls regulated by the
Sun and Moon which DO control the tides and
everything else on this planet. No sea levels change.
In the area closest to Chile some unseasonal
melting caused by the Chaiten volcano which has
been active a period of years.
> are among the significantly increased effects of
> human-induced global warming assessed in the survey,
•• ROTFLMAO Nothing above would be comic if
they were not so serious.
> which also
> examines the emissions of heat-trapping gases that are causing the
> climate change.
•• Global warming is a myth and does not exist. On
the other hand.
•• The "heat-trapping" gas (CO2 & NO2) do not stay
around very long. One rainfall and presto they
become fertilizer- snow too.
>
> "Many indicators are currently tracking near or above the worst-case
> projections" made three years ago by the world's scientists, the new
> Copenhagen Diagnosis said.http://copenhagendiagnosis.com/
•• Every one was debugged and several were proved
false. Noteworthy was the Mann, Biffa et al "hockey
stick".
>
> Nor has manmade global warming slowed or paused, as some headlines
> have recently suggested, according to the report, which you can see
> here.http://copenhagendiagnosis.com/
•• No matter what they say, they can not even create
a rainfall or snowfall, On the other hand "Climate
Change" is functioning as it has for 5 million years
or more.
>
> The scientists also calculate that the world's emissions of
> heat-trapping gases must peak in less than 10 years and then dive
> quickly to nearly zero, if warming of more than another 2 degrees
> Fahrenheit above the current annual global temperature is to be
> prevented after 2050.
>
> ...................................................................................................................
>
> This is the first comprehensive update of leading peer-reviewed
> climate science in the three years since the last report of the
> intentionally thorough and slow-paced Intergovernmental Panel on
> Climate Change was finalized.
>
> That report is now widely recognized to be out of date in important
> ways.
•• That means that they were false to start with.
>
> This is because over the past three years, hundreds of new scientific
> field accounts of global warming's impacts, as well as improved
> peer-reviewed analyses of global warming itself in both the deep past
> and the very near future, have depicted earth's atmosphere as far more
> "sensitive" to the invisible CO2, methane and other human-sourced
> greenhouse gases than had been hoped.
•• There is NO WAY anything can change much in 3
years so we can easily conclude that they polished
up IPCC report 4. No matter how you polish up a
plaster sculpture it ain't bronze
> "Mother nature puts a limit on how long you can dither and
> procrastinate," climatologist Richard Somerville, one of the study's
> authors, told ABC News.
>
> 'Abrupt or Irreversible Change' If It's 'Business as Usual'
•• Nothing is abrupt in climate. Why did IPCC ignore
the Medieval Warm Period and the "Little Ice Age"
all of which occurred in the prior millenium which
was already 11,000 years into our interglacial. It
seems that it is time to expect something other than
warming
•• In the past 30+ years we have seen all of the
violent climate events that esteemed paleologists
like the late Dr Genevieve Woillard predicted
would occur before glaciation begins
We have seen violent typhoons and tornadoes,
heavy rains, earthquakes, tsunamis (the deadliest
ever). Volcanoes are an important factor on the
surface there is an average of 15 actives from week
some for more than a year. There is no count of
the submarine volcanoes nor how many were
erupting at any one time. Vulcanologists report that
Mt St Helens is due and so are its two sidekicks.
like monsoons
> "We found that several vulnerable elements in Earth's climate system
> -- like the Amazon and other big rain forests, like the great ice
> sheets that have so much sea level locked up in their ice -- could be
> pushed toward abrupt or irreversible change if we go on toward 2100
> with our business-as-usual increase in emissions of greenhouse gases,"
> he said.
•• What a large lump/ of rotting manure in that
paragraph is loaded for green, but not for you
and me
— —
| In real science the burden of proof is always
| on the proposer, never on the sceptics. So far
| neither IPCC nor anyone else has provided one
| iota of valid data for global warming nor have
| they provided data that climate change is being
| effected by commerce and industry, and not by
| natural phenomena.