RESULT: sci.engr.safety passes 334:11
Colin R. Leech
Amazingly enough this was posted to a bunch of groups
but not here. Reposted from news.announce.newgroups et al:
In a previous posting, Steve Bonine (s...@ntrs.com) writes:
> unmoderated group sci.engr.safety passes 334:11
>
> There were 334 YES votes and 11 NO votes, for a total of 345 valid votes.
> There were 2 abstains and 4 invalid ballots.
>
> For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO)
> votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes.
>
> There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no
> serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of
> news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter.
>
> Newsgroups line:
> sci.engr.safety All aspects of Safety of Engineered Systems.
>
> This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. For voting questions
> only contact Steve Bonine <s...@ntrs.com>. For questions about the proposed
> group contact Sethu R Rathinam <rath...@netins.net>.
>
> CHARTER
>
> This newsgroup is being proposed as an open forum to discuss
> safety issues of systems conceived and/or built by humans. All
> aspects of safety relating to the risk of, or actual, human
> injury and/or loss of human life fall within this charter.
> Safety issues and concerns relating to all phases in a product's
> life cycle as well as discussions of Regulatory Issues and System
> Safety Processes and Software issues relating to safety fall
> within this charter.
>
> Though system and product safety is the intended primary focus
> area for this group, discussion of related issues (protection,
> investigation, human behavior) is also expected to happen in this
> group. Security issues that do not relate to the primary focus
> area of this group are better discussed elsewhere (alt.security
> being one candidate group).
>
> The mailing list SYSTEM...@GSFC.NASA.GOV is being considered
> to be gatewayed to this newsgroup (one way).
>
> sci.engr.safety Final Vote Ack
>
> Voted Yes
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 10032...@compuserve.com julian johnson
> 112...@incdp3.lanl.gov Cy Jakubowski, ESH-TSPO/CST-25, 5-8571
> 6CI...@scivax.pgh.wec.com Philip Ciarelli
> 7137...@compuserve.com Judith E. Cook, P. Eng.
> 7400...@compuserve.com Peter Perkins
> @hobbes.cca.rockwell.com:SYS_BAA@SOLON Blake Andrews, 777 AFDS, x4922
> @hobbes.cca.rockwell.com:SYS_DCP@MONONA David Pattison
> @hobbes.cca.rockwell.com:SYS_LDL@PALO
> @hobbes.cca.rockwell.com:SYS_WCG@LISBON William C. Goeddel Jr.
> @mobil.com:aeschoen@engprn Al Schoen
> @switch.com:cyc@atg Ching-Yun Chen
> @x400gw.msfc.nasa.gov:RICHARD.OELKERS@MSFC12PO Richard Oelkers
> aa...@kendaco.telebyte.com Ralph Duncan
> abeu...@gn2.getnet.com Art Beutler
> ada...@plk.af.mil David Adams
> ag...@freenet.carleton.ca Colin Leech
> al...@cim.mcgill.ca Alex Okapuu-von Veh
> alma...@interaccess.com Allan J. MacDonald
> an...@chemeng.ed.ac.uk Andrew Brazier
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> ba...@neopath.com Barbara Zanzig
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> dgar...@ix.netcom.com Dr. Dennis G. Garratt
> dhor...@InterServ.Com Debra A. Horvath
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> dmcg...@unlinfo.unl.edu Debra McGuire
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> don...@ecn.purdue.edu Dongil Shin
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> ehil...@access.digex.net Ed Hillman
> Eric.S...@america.net Eric J. Shelton
> er...@pinus.slu.se Erik Magne't
> es...@eng.warwick.ac.uk S M Thomas smt
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> Exp...@aol.com Forrest Keller
> fchi...@popcorn.dsnet.it Franco Chiarini
> femi...@eskimo.com William Affleck-Asch
> fham...@eclat.uccs.edu Frank D. Hammitt
> fi...@rain.org Chris Mahon
> fmc...@aol.com FMCDave
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> FRIES...@irpims.brooks.af.mil Gerard Friesenhahn
> f...@creare.com Frank Dolan
> g91l...@giraffe.ru.ac.za JIAN-CHUAN LI
> ga...@HPP.Stanford.EDU David M. Gaba, M.D.
> gate...@cyberstore.ca Maura Gatensby
> gb...@world.std.com George Budd
> Georg...@aol.com George Schneider
> gh...@cs.pitt.edu Sunondo Ghosh
> GIN...@aol.com Niels Nielsen
> gjs...@engprn.mobil.com Gustavo J. Silva
> gle...@media.mit.edu Gilbert Leung
> gl...@interaccess.com Guy A. Lyle
> gold...@csl.sri.com Jack Goldberg
> GOURDOUX...@ofvax.lanl.gov James R. Gourdoux
> gr...@avalon.ncel.navy.mil Gregory K. Ramsey
> gr...@netcom.com Kiran Wagle
> gs...@io.org George Swan
> gwh...@cc.hq.nasa.gov Gilbert White
> gw...@engprn.mobil.com G. W. Poe C.S.P. P.E.
> hamm...@ausable.crd.ge.com Richard A. Hammond
> hc...@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu Charles Rathbone
> hde.W...@xerox.com H. David Edmunds
> heil...@math.berkeley.edu Stephan Heilmayr
> he...@csse.enet.dec.com William Henry
> h...@hhdo.venture.net Henning Holtschneider
> hmue...@pcnet.com Harry Mueller
> hor...@pa.dec.com Jim Horning
> how...@albany.mitre.org Chuck Howell
> h...@bull.cray.com Hans Mikelson
> h...@kalpana.com Hon Wah Chin
> hw...@her.tei.gr John Tsagatakis
> ia...@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA Ian McPherson
> i...@ornl.gov Russell W. Schmidt
> i...@minster.york.ac.uk Iain Bate
> Ik...@aol.com William I. White
> ise...@alpha.nuceng.ufl.edu Louis H Iselin
> Jack....@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov Jack Remez
> jack_j...@csufresno.edu Jack Jackson
> Ja...@prognote.demon.co.uk James G Henderson
> jana_...@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov Jana Rezac
> jcar...@chat.carleton.ca James Carriere
> jdl...@cc.hq.nasa.gov James D. Lloyd
> jebr...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu James R. Ebright
> Jeffre...@medtronic.com Jeffrey R. Brown
> jfis...@cs.UMD.EDU Jeffrey Fischer
> jga...@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov Jay.B.Garvin
> j...@csd.uwm.edu John G Dobnick
> jgu...@dustexp.demon.co.uk John Gummer
> j...@gerrsoft.demon.co.uk James Borggren
> ji...@latcs1.lat.oz.au Ajin Jirachiefpattana
> jjc...@iroc.ca.boeing.com John Joseph Chilenski
> jms...@unm.edu James Sevier
> john....@srs.gov John A. Smartt
> jona...@elstead.win-uk.net Jonathan R Barnes
> jon...@io.org Trevor Tymchuk
> joyce...@csufresno.edu Joyce Weber
> j...@chem.UCSD.EDU John G. Palmer
> j...@fats.demon.co.uk J T Allen, HSE
> k3...@acs.ryerson.ca Kenneth Tse k3tse
> kak...@mtu.edu Kevin A. Kroon
> Keith_...@macmail.lbl.gov Keith Gershon
> keith_h...@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu Keith Haselman
> ker...@byron.apana.org.au Kerrin Pine
> kin...@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu Mark Kinsler
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> Klin...@aol.com Fred Klingener
> kma...@ipo.seminole.cc.fl.us Kathleen Matty
> koo...@casun2.res.utc.com Philip Koopman
> ku...@gerii.insa-tlse.fr Jean-Marie Kubek
> kue...@gelac.lasc.lockheed.com David Kuechenmeister
> l10...@cliffy.lfwc.lockheed.com Garlington KE
> L1...@ZFN.UNI-BREMEN.DE Martin Schr"oder
> lac...@dmp.csiro.au Lachlan Cranswick
> laro...@cae.ca Michel Larouche
> larry....@excalibur.org Larry Sherman
> la...@falcon.kla.com Larry Dunn
> LAWR...@addvax.llnl.gov Dr. J. Dennis Lawrence
> lb_ni...@ccmail.pnl.gov Lynn B. Nielson
> lcr...@snap.org Leon O. Croft
> lem...@acq.osd.mil John Lemke
> li...@magi.com James E. Arsenault
> li...@ucs.orst.edu Joy Linn
> LJOH...@cc.weber.edu Lou W. Johnson
> lo...@cc.hq.nasa.gov Lonnie E. Owen
> lro...@free.org Luis A. Rodriguez
> Lur...@aol.com Pete Lurie
> lu...@sol.hc.ti.com Steve Lusky
> M.H...@dienst.vu.nl m.homma
> M.Jef...@lut.ac.uk Matthew Jefferson
> mal...@granta.demon.co.uk Sheila Thomas
> man...@pyro.lanl.gov Robin K. Justice
> marc...@xs4all.nl Marcel Wilders
> Mario...@aol.com Marion E. Burry
> ma...@flyhmstr.demon.co.uk Mark Lowes
> mark_m...@ccmail.uoregon.edu mark maguire
> maur...@tplrd.tpl.oz.au Maurice Cinquini
> mb...@unm.edu I Am Me
> mcgr...@cognos.com Alayne McGregor
> m...@praxis.co.uk Martyn Thomas
> m...@atmos.dar.CSIRO.AU Matt Fenwick
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> m...@cs.tu-berlin.de Markus Freericks
> mike....@mgmtsys.com Mike Romano
> mi...@cougar.sr.hp.com Mike Weihman
> Mike...@macmail.lbl.gov Michael C. Dong
> Mike_G._Kroeger@Productivity_OnLine.bitstream.mpls.mn.us Michael G. Kroeger
> mi...@PrimeNet.Com Miles S. Fagerlie
> mill...@knot.QueensU.CA John Milligan
> m...@fallschurch-acirs2.army.mil Michael Watson
> mko...@ti.com Micah Koons
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> mo...@cbl.umd.edu Linda Grant Morin
> mra...@foxboro.com Michael Rains, ext. 2966, N05-4A
> mr...@cais.cais.com Malcolm H. Ray
> msa...@ossi.com Marilyn E. Sander
> msat...@jungle.com Michael Sattler
> m...@gov.nt.ca Dave Turner
> msh...@unm.edu Stephen Barnes
> mst...@u.washington.edu Erin McKeown
> mswr...@tamu.edu Mark Wright
> mu...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca W.A.(Bill)Musselman
> nep...@mcs.com Frank Nepomuceno
> neu...@chiron.csl.sri.com Peter G. Neumann
> ni...@digicash.com Niels Ferguson
> nigel...@utoronto.ca Nigel Allen
> nmu...@iol.ie Niall Murphy
> nor...@cat.com John E. Norlin
> NWD...@prodigy.com MR DAVID A HARGRAVES
> Ny...@blibble.demon.co.uk Jonathan Ronald Ward
> Ode...@aol.com
> o...@stud.unit.no \yvind S{ter
> orn...@emngw1.emn.com Dr. Barry L. Ornitz
> P.Gu...@mailbox.uq.oz.au Phil Guerney
> P.W.H...@lut.ac.uk Paul Chung
> pal...@CERF.NET L. Merrill Palmer
> paul.b...@toadhall.com Paul Burnett
> paul.k....@hydro.on.ca Paul Joannou
> PCO...@farnboro01.datasci.co.uk Phil Cooper
> Peter-Lawren...@cwi.nl Peter L. Montgomery
> phi...@interramp.com Peter Hines
> PKo...@aol.com Paul Konigmacher
> pne...@earthlight.co.nz Paul Newell
> p...@login.dknet.dk Peter A. Olsen
> pou...@itersd1.iterus.org Andre Poucet
> pres...@bitwise.net Bob Prescott
> pro...@csus.edu Peter Roddy
> prut...@cc.hq.nasa.gov Peter J. Rutledge
> rab...@laas.fr Christophe Rabejac
> radr...@panix.com Rebecca Drayer
> rat...@nnf.cornell.edu Lynn Rathbun Rathbun
> rav...@rpi.edu Venkatesh Ravirala
> RA...@ravis.msk.su Alexander Velovich
> rb...@arts.adelaide.edu.au Richard Batt
> rbe...@fats.demon.co.uk Dr Richard Bettis
> r...@tis.inel.gov Rafael Coll
> rded...@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov Robert Dedalis
> rf...@bda-hp.bda.nasa.gov Ray Funk
> rhamb...@fats.demon.co.uk Robert Hambleton
> RH...@wsmr-emh81.army.mil Richard Hiss
> Richar...@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov Pauline Saternow
> ri...@hpbpq6.bpo.hp.com Richard Nute
> ri...@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller
> rmh...@aztec.inre.asu.edu Roger M. Henkel
> Robert....@aut.alcatel.at Robert W. Allgeuer
> ron...@ix.netcom.com Ronald B. Heusser
> ro...@almac.co.uk Robert Thornton
> rpee...@mindspring.com Richard Peebles
> rpg...@wpi.edu Romeo P. Gervais
> rsdi...@Csa1.LBL.Gov Richard Dicely
> rta...@svpal.org Richard Tarrel
> rus...@dme.nt.gov.au russell robinson
> r...@hsr.no Rune Winther
> r...@SEI.CMU.EDU Bob Stoddard
> san...@Kwantlen.BC.CA Sandra L. Hoffman
> SANJ...@techinc.usa.com Sanjeev Mohindra
> SAW...@montroyal.ksc.nasa.gov J. Charles Sawyer, Jr.
> SCHOREN#m#_WIL...@lims-a1.lerc.nasa.gov William R. Schoren
> scm...@wpogws.lerc.nasa.gov MANUEL DOMINGUEZ
> SC...@ENH.NIST.GOV Scot Deal
> se...@mpi-sb.mpg.de Sean Matthews
> s...@arinc.com Steve Friedman
> sha...@eos.arc.nasa.gov Michael Shafto
> shim...@cs.nps.navy.mil Tim Shimeall
> shirle...@ccmail.gsfc.nasa.gov Shirley Dion
> simon...@jrc.it Simon Grant
> smi...@ford.aero.org Sidney R. Smith
> s...@login.dknet.dk Soeren P. Roensberg
> sros...@cadvision.com Stephen Rosenegger
> stephen...@boeing.com Stephen L Nicoud
> St...@lamerton.demon.co.uk Steve Marler
> Steven_...@umail.umd.edu Steven M. Spivak
> ste...@hwcae.Honeywell.COM Steven J. Verros
> str...@osuunx.ucc.okstate.edu Lars Bell
> syo...@earthlight.co.nz Steve Young
> t.f...@qut.edu.au Terry Farr
> t...@questconsult.com Timothy Melton
> ten...@io.com James Kiley
> t...@netcom.com Thomas G. McWilliams
> tke...@netaxs.com Tom Keenan
> tlw...@umr.edu Travis White
> tmat...@lmumail.lmu.edu Timothy Matonak
> tm...@athena.compulink.forthnet.gr GEORGE VLAHOS
> Tom_W...@st9gate.mitre.org Thomas M. Wheeler
> t...@minster.york.ac.uk Tim Kelly
> tre...@govonca2.gov.on.ca Charlie Trenka
> tusc...@aol.com Rogers Cadenhead
> TZ...@iossvr.dnet.hac.com Tony Zenga
> ulen...@paul.xs4all.nl Paul Ulenbelt
> usmw...@ibmmail.com Craig E. Brackbill
> vcho...@p12.mn12.honeywell.com Vicki Chouinard
> ve6kik!doctor!yada...@cs.ualberta.ca
> ve...@pencom.com Ventkatesh S. Iyer
> vxr...@pitt.edu Varsha Raju
> w...@garnet.msen.com Bill Lemaster
> wayne...@srs.gov Wayne Davis
> wc...@austin.asc.slb.com Bill Cox
> wein...@SEI.CMU.EDU Chuck Weinstock
> whit...@che.udel.edu George Whitmyre
> wil...@rockvax.rockefeller.edu Amy Wilkerson
> Wils...@ornl.gov Dan Wilson
> winc...@oasys.dt.navy.mil Clinton Winchester
> w...@rfpo1.rfc.comm.harris.com William (Bill) L. Jackson
> wmd...@infi.net William Dawes
> wolf...@sunspot.nosc.mil Lewis Wolfgang
> Wolfgang_...@ccmail.ed.ray.com Wolfgang Floitgraf
> yia...@minster.york.ac.uk Yiannis Papadopoulos
> you...@rfweston.com Charles T. Young
>
> Voted No
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> arc...@frmug.fr.net Vincent Archer
> artr...@rennes.ICS.UCI.EDU Arthur A. Reyes
> ch...@cosmic.dinoco.de Christian Much
> h20...@kaiwan.com Wayne Waterman
> jcmu...@smurfland.cit.buffalo.edu Jeff Murphy
> kh...@JTP.CS.NYU.EDU Hasnain Khan
> mata...@cwis.isu.edu James A. Matarese, Jr.
> ni...@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri
> richard...@sstff.mn.org Richard Wegener
> s...@sam.franken.de Sassan Simai
> stai...@bga.com Dwight Brown
>
> Abstained
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> crou...@flidh103.delcoelect.com K. Crouch
> Kr...@SEDSystems.ca Kris Finnestad
>
>
> Votes in error
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> JOBA...@cabrillo.cc.ca.us John Barker
> ! No vote statement in message
> rod...@ecst.csuchico.edu Dale A. Harris
> ! No vote statement in message
> ste...@saftek.com STEPHEN TENHET
> ! No vote statement in message
> sys...@biolab.atl.ga.us Charles Gibson
> ! Invalid address
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Colin R. Leech |-> Civil Engineer by training,
ag...@freenet.carleton.ca |-> Transportation Planner by choice,
h:613-224-2301 w:613-741-6440 |-> Trombonist by hobby.
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