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Why that 757 punched through the Pentagon wall.

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Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2009, 11:40:14 PM4/5/09
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Unlike the 'Troofers' I can do some decent math.

I just repeated my calculations about the impact force on the Pentagon.

Assuming I have made no errors, and converting at the end to US
customary units, I make the Force on the Pentagon wall no less
than...... wait for it ......

3 1/2 short tons per square INCH.

The total impact energy involved being some 1.1 Mega Joules in SI units.

Graham

BradGuth

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Apr 6, 2009, 12:41:17 AM4/6/09
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On Apr 5, 8:40 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Supercomputer simulate it.

~ BG

m II

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Apr 6, 2009, 2:29:50 AM4/6/09
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That should have slowed the fuselage down sufficiently for the wings to
leave damage against the building. With a 3 1/2 ton per square inch
force acting against only the body, the wings would have LOTS of
unhindered capability of maintaining the forward momentum they already
had. They would shear off the roots and go FORWARD into the building wall.

The wings folding up neatly backwards and following the body into an
improbably small hole is an impossibility. Even if they were freshly
waxed. With Carnuba...

mike

Strabo

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Apr 6, 2009, 4:49:47 AM4/6/09
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And don't forget the tail section. Apparently it "folds" as well.
The vertical of the proposed plane extended to the top of the Pentagon
yet the pictures show this area unmarked and intact.

While I wouldn't have expected it to break through walls of concrete,
I do expect it to have broken up several inches of masonry.

Amazing magic tricks on 9/11.


>
>
> mike

Ted Campanelli

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Apr 6, 2009, 6:35:24 AM4/6/09
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Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
so great) words of knowledge:

You are also forgetting that the wings and tail must have folded in
prior to the plane hitting the building - none of the light poles in the
parking lot were touched.

Eeyore

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Apr 6, 2009, 7:50:27 AM4/6/09
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m II wrote:

> Eeyore wrote:
> > Unlike the 'Troofers' I can do some decent math.
> >
> > I just repeated my calculations about the impact force on the Pentagon.
> >
> > Assuming I have made no errors, and converting at the end to US
> > customary units, I make the Force on the Pentagon wall no less
> > than...... wait for it ......
> >
> > 3 1/2 short tons per square INCH.
> >
> > The total impact energy involved being some 1.1 Mega Joules in SI units.
>

> That should have slowed the fuselage down sufficiently for the wings to
> leave damage against the building.

And how do you calculate that ?

First off, I'd like to see you admit that a force of 3 1/2 tons per square
inch will punch through re-inforced concrete.

Graham

Eeyore

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Apr 6, 2009, 7:52:47 AM4/6/09
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Strabo wrote:

> And don't forget the tail section. Apparently it "folds" as well.

The tail is made as lightweight as possible ( as are all parts of an aircraft ).
It's no big deal it didn't leave a mark, besides you'd never know, since the
upper storeys fell into the hole some 20 ? mins after the impact.

Graham

Eeyore

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Apr 6, 2009, 7:53:59 AM4/6/09
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Ted Campanelli wrote:

> Ted shuffled out of his cave and grunted these great (and sometimes not
> so great) words of knowledge:
>
> You are also forgetting that the wings and tail must have folded in
> prior to the plane hitting the building - none of the light poles in the
> parking lot were touched.

It didn't go near the Pentagon parking lot. Simple explanation. Grow up.

Graham

Eeyore

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Apr 6, 2009, 7:56:55 AM4/6/09
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BradGuth wrote:

> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Unlike the 'Troofers' I can do some decent math.
> >
> > I just repeated my calculations about the impact force on the Pentagon.
> >
> > Assuming I have made no errors, and converting at the end to US
> > customary units, I make the Force on the Pentagon wall no less
> > than...... wait for it ......
> >
> > 3 1/2 short tons per square INCH.
> >
> > The total impact energy involved being some 1.1 Mega Joules in SI units.
>
>

> Supercomputer simulate it.

You don't need to.

(a) the evidence is in front of your eyes

(b) simple structural analysis programs would give a good estimate. I know
guys who DESIGN structural parts of airplanes you TWIT !

Graham

Al Dykes

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Apr 6, 2009, 11:15:29 AM4/6/09
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In article <49d9...@news.x-privat.org>, m II <C...@in.the.hat> wrote:
>Eeyore wrote:
>> Unlike the 'Troofers' I can do some decent math.
>>
>> I just repeated my calculations about the impact force on the Pentagon.
>>
>> Assuming I have made no errors, and converting at the end to US
>> customary units, I make the Force on the Pentagon wall no less
>> than...... wait for it ......
>>
>> 3 1/2 short tons per square INCH.
>>
>> The total impact energy involved being some 1.1 Mega Joules in SI units.
>>
>> Graham
>>
>
>
>That should have slowed the fuselage down sufficiently for the wings to


People that don't understand what happened shouldn't use words like
"should" and "can't" and "must have".

You've been lied to.


--
Al Dykes
News is something someone wants to suppress, everything else is advertising.
- Lord Northcliffe, publisher of the Daily Mail

Al Dykes

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Apr 6, 2009, 11:17:15 AM4/6/09
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In article <_siCl.10016$9t6....@newsfe10.iad>,

Whatever. Your ignorance of what happened at the pentagon doesn't
change the facts that tons of 757 parts and all passengers and crew
were found inside the Pentagon.

AZ Nomad

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Apr 6, 2009, 11:56:57 AM4/6/09
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On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:49:47 -0400, Strabo <str...@flashlight.net> wrote:
>And don't forget the tail section. Apparently it "folds" as well.
>The vertical of the proposed plane extended to the top of the Pentagon
>yet the pictures show this area unmarked and intact.

>While I wouldn't have expected it to break through walls of concrete,
>I do expect it to have broken up several inches of masonry.

>Amazing magic tricks on 9/11.

Are you still expecting loonytune outlines of plane cut into
reenforced concrete? Give it up. You're only making yourself
look like more of an idiot.

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