Re: M.I 5-Pers ecution . BB C Ne wscasters Li e & Den y Th eyre Watch ing Me
jim
individual, such as real name, address, etc. I will take care of this little
posting problem personally.
jim
<mvev...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:ja0711260...@4ax.com...
>
> MI5 Persecution: BBC Newscasters Lie & Deny. They're Watching Me
>
> Central to the persecution campaign waged against. me for some nine years
> now by the. Security Service is their use of the media, and in particular
> the broadcast media, to make clear to me. that I am under surveillance and
> being watched within my own home,. even by BBC newscasters while they read
> the. news. This is really an act of arrogance; MI5 and their tools in the
> television and radio are so sure that they can. never be caught, that they
> have many times made explicity clear on broadcast programmes that they.
> are
> as capable of seeing me as I am of seeing the. broadcast pictures. Even
> when they have known I am taping the. programmes they still carry on this
> practice; for examples of TVand radio. presenters caught "in action", see
> the Evidence area of. my website.
>
> If you wish to. reply to this article......
> then please include your name and fax. number! I provide the means for
> recipients to send me their thoughts on the. topics discussed, but ask
> that
> you provide me with your fax number or. email address if you require a
> response. Also would you please send not more than one or two pages, if.
> by
> fax.. Thank-you!
>
>
> It started with a Newscaster, and. it continues with Newscasters today
>
> The very first incident. in the story started with a reaction by an ITN
> newscaster, Sue Carpenter, in June of 1990, almost nine years. ago now.
> She
> reacted to what she saw in my. living room at home as she read the news.
> My
> mother had brought an apple for me into. the room, whereupon the
> newsreader
> smirked and giggled, apparently finding. this funny. I couldn't believe
> what I. was seeing. I carried on watching news and other television
> programmes to see if. presenters would show signs of "interactive
> watching"; to my surprise, this happened again and. again. Unfortunately,
> I
> did not have my wits sufficiently about me to videotape these. programmes,
> and it is now almost impossible to obtain recordings dating. back to 1990.
>
> However, I have been busy recording everything. Ive watched the last
> couple
> of years,. and the taping has yielded some nuggets, which you will find if
> you point your Web browser at the "evidence" area of my website, whose.
> URL
> address is given above. Strangely it is not particularly the. BBC who are
> "after me" at the moment. (with the exception of occasional fire from
> Nicholas Witchell), but that. supposed paragon of virtue and decency Jon
> Snow of Channel Four TV News (he actually works for ITN), who. once
> claimed
> hed turned down. MI5s offer of a tax-free salary. I will cover Snows
> recent
> actions in a. future article.
>
> BBCs Hidden. Shame
>
> The first ever Usenet post (internet newsgroup article). on the subject of
> the MI5. bugging / BBC watching occurred, as stated in a previous article,
> in early May. 1995. It is reproduced here;
>
> Date: Thu May . 4 18:27:24 1995
> Newsgroups:. alt.conspiracy
> Subject: BBC's. Hidden Shame
>
> Remember. the two-way televisions in George Orwell's 1984? The ones which
> watched you back? Which you could never get rid of, only the sound. could
> be. turned down?
>
> Well the country which brought Orwell into the. world has made his
> nightmare follow into the world after him. Since 1990. the British have
> been waging war against one of their own. citizens using surveillance to
> invade privacy and a campaign. of abuse in the transmitted media in their
> efforts to. humiliate their "victim".
>
> I suppose "BBCs Hidden Shame" is more of a wish than a fact. It may. be
> hidden,. but the BBC and other media and security organisations seem to
> have no shame. whatever in their anti-social, not to say criminal,
> actions. Nor. do the general public, who seem quite happy to parrot the
> vilest obscenities. without much hesitation or apparently thought.
>
> Martyn Lewis,. Nicholas Witchell and the rest
>
> Most of the harassment occurred in 1990-92, when I wasnt making. any
> recordings, and the BBC. wont release copies of current affairs programmes
> from that. period.... so although I can remember there were many incidents
> in that time, even many. specifics, I cant dig up the actual programmes to
> flesh. out the bones.
>
> This year,. there has been at least one incident with Nicholas Witchell as
> newsreader, which. I have successfully recorded and digitized,
> i.e. converted into a computer Quicktime movie file. This has. not yet
> found its way onto. my website (Im a busy man, dontcha know) but you can
> be
> sure I will let the readership of. these articles know when that clip
> makes
> it onto the web.. The Witchell clip was recorded on Saturday 10 April 1999
> at 7pm, and shows Witchell trying to restrain his features. from
> collapsing
> into a smirk. First his. upper lip quivers for several minutes, then with
> the non-excuse of a non-joke his entire face twists into a grin. It. looks
> as if he finds me so funny, that he allows himself. to submerge any
> pretence at professionalism in. a sea of MI5-inspired sarcasm and
> harassment.
>
> The. two BBC newscasters whose reactions to me I can remember most vividly
> over the years are Martyn Lewis and Nicholas Witchell. I can. remember
> thinking years ago that Michael Buerk was also seeing me. at home; and if
> the other two are watching then there would be no reason why. he wouldnt
> be
> doing the same; but in. all honesty I cannot remember a single clear
> instance of his reacting. through facial or verbal expression to me.
>
> I can remember several instances of Martyn Lewis reacting to what. he saw
> of me, however. In early 1992 I was watching the BBC news with Lewis. on a
> small black-and-white portable TV at my then home in. Oxford. I threw a
> term of abuse at Lewis; he flinched, then gave a. grin and made a comment
> from which I understood that he had been on my side, but. might have
> changed his mind as a result of what Id just said to. him.
>
> And in spring 1991 I remember Martyn Lewis clearly reacting. to what he
> saw
> of me at my then accommodation. in Woking, Surrey, by continuing to stare
> at some fixed. point near the camera after the news had finished -
> presumably this is where the monitor interactively showing. pictures of my
> room. was located.
>
> Why. would BBC and other Newscasters Watch and Harass Me, Watching Them?
>
> This is a very difficult question, and I dont actually know the. answer.
> It
> is a matter of. record that the Secret Services are very much part of the
> Establishment. The recent. exposure of the "MI6 Agent List" on the
> internet, and. its coverage in the newspapers, reveals how much MI5 and
> MI6
> are recruited from. the ranks of the Establishment. Obviously the
> relationship is bi-directional; the. Establishment influences MI5/MI6, but
> the secret services (well, perhaps not so secret now we know. who works
> for
> MI6!!!) also. influence the machinery of power and information
> dissemination i.e. media in this country. So they must have a. lot of
> covert leverage with the BBC and. ITN.
>
> Some of this leverage is. obviously through bribery. It is a matter of
> record. that MI5 tried some years ago to "buy" Jon Snow of Channel Four
> TV. He turned them down - obviously. they must have approached other media
> people as well, and from the lack of other reports of people turning. them
> down, it may be presumed that some other journalists will. have accepted
> the sugared carrots put before them. Ironically, Jon. Snow has been taking
> part in. the recent "watching" actions against me - but why he has allowed
> himself to be used by. the secret services is something which I do not
> know.
>
> Perhaps the Security Service uses blackmail to. twist arms of journalists
> into co-operating with them? I have. always thought there was something
> slightly odd about Martyn Lewiss demeanour. At the time of the. Ron Davies
> "rough trade" scandal it. was reported that MI5 had known all about Davies
> predilections. and the sham of his pretence to be a happily married
> man. Perhaps MI5 have been able to dig something up. from Martyn Lewiss
> private life to. blackmail him into acting on their behalf? And if there
> wasnt anything. before the "newscaster watching" started then there most
> certainly is something now.... once. theyve started watching, the
> newscasters will surely wish. their activities to remain covered-up, and
> co-operate with the. security service.
>
> "Newscaster Watching" Deliberately Constructed. to Mimic Schizophrenia
>
> Presumably. this is the first case in history of television journalists
> actually taking part in acts of real-time, live spying and. reacting
> against one of their viewers. What you have to understand, though,. is
> that
> I was quite mentally. healthy in June 1990, certainly relative to November
> 1992, when after two and a half. years of harassment I was finally
> admitted
> to hospital as an out-patient. MI5 decided from the outset. that they
> would
> make me mad; they. constructed the media harassment to resemble what would
> be reported by a person with mental illness;. and then they carried on
> years. of abuse to inflict on me the condition which they wished to use as
> an excuse to cover up their. abuses.
>
> I sold my portable TV in autumn 1990 and stopped. watching television
> regularly. I realise now that this may have been a mistake. What. I should
> have done was to watch TV and listen to. the radio, but tape-record
> everything and make a note of what each excerpt meant. to me. I would then
> be in a much stronger position as regards to. evidence that I am now. That
> is what I am trying to do now,. but unsurprisingly the TV/radio presenters
> have stopped getting at me, now they know they. are being recorded.
>
> When I started publicising my case. on internet newsgroups in 1995, I was
> met. with the disbelief one might expect to be accorded to a mentally ill
> person who talks about "newscaster watching" and media. persecution. Some
> newsgroup participants thought. I had started a "troll", an invention made
> to obtain. a reaction; one bright spark even suggested a group of
> psychology. students were behind the articles. But most people thought the
> articles were symptomatic. of derangement - and that is exactly what MI5
> want people to think. MI5 chose me as a target because I was. mildly
> mentally ill at the. outset in 1990, although I stress my illness then was
> very. mild in comparison with November 1992, and because they knew that
> enough abuse would (a) make me much more seriously ill, and (b) once I.
> was
> more ill, they would "get away" with a harassment. deliberately
> constructed
> to look. like the symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.
>
> Martyn Lewis Denies. & Lies, But Wont in Writing
>
> In February 1997 I. wrote to BBC Viewer & Listener Correspondence and
> asked
> them to investigate the claim that their newscasters had. engaged in
> "real-time spying" on me. They replied that. they had asked Martyn Lewis
> and Michael Buerk whether they had engaged in such practices,. and that
> they had both made verbal denials to. VLC, but were refusing to put their
> denials. in writing.
>
> To me it looks as if. Lewis and Buerk are happy to lie verbally but not in
> writing, because written falsehoods. would place them unambiguously in the
> wrong, whereas they can try to talk their way out. of verbal lies if they
> are. ever caught, or perhaps even deny the verbal lies completely? If they
> lie without shame, then why would. they have any shame about future lies
> about. lying?
>
> BBC-VLC also said that the BBC "would never engage in any form. of
> surveillance. activity" such as that described. Clearly Martyn Lewis and
> the rest. have lied to their own organisations personnel about their
> criminal actions.. So much for the "objective", "truthful" BBC, a nest of
> shabby. liars.
>
> Summons against the BBC, for Nuisance caused by. Newscaster Spying
>
> In March 1997 I issued a. civil summons against the BBC, seeking
> injunction
> against further "newscaster. spying", and token damages for what the BBC
> had done to me until that date. The. purpose of the summons was to try to
> "smoke. out" the BBC, since obviously I did not have good evidence which
> would be necessary for either a civil or. criminal case to be made against
> them. My summons was worded. as follows;
>
> 1. The plaintiff is and was at all. material times residing at [home
> address]. At some time prior. to or during June 1990, persons of unknown
> identity entered Plaintiff's premises and installed concealed. television
> equipment in said. premises.
>
> 2. A campaign of. harassment was launched against the Plaintiff by the
> persons of unknown identity, which in part took the form. of instigating
> harassment by. BBC TV newscasters (including specifically Michael Buerk
> and
> Martyn Lewis) as they read news bulletins, by making direct. and personal
> comments to. Plaintiff.
>
> 3. The campaigns purpose. was to subject Plaintiff to great mental stress
> and induce mental breakdown. As a. result of it Plaintiff did indeed
> suffer
> from severe mental strain. in 1990-97.
>
> 4. In order to. avoid the mental strain being caused to him the Plaintiff
> has been compelled to stop watching BBC TV news.. Defendant therefore
> committed the tort of private nuisance, since. normal use of home was
> interfered. with.
>
> 5. Plaintiff claims a. permanent injunction prohibiting further nuisance,
> and damages for nuisance. suffered limited to 5,000.
>
> Naturally, my. attempt to smoke-out the BBC and its lying newscasters
> failed.. The BBCs litigation department sought to have my summons struck
> out; and they succeeded in doing so, on the grounds of my. action
> "disclosing no reasonable cause of. action". I was also prevented from
> issuing further civil claims against the. BBC without leave of the
> Court. Apparently litigants-in-person frequently / usually have. their
> claims struck out with this wording, regardless of the. merit of their
> claims.
>
> BBC Suppresses my. Claims of "Watching by Newscasters"
>
> BBCs staff magazine Ariel ran. my advert "BBC Newsreaders Spying on my
> home" for one issue in the Personal. category on 8/July/1997 before it was
> spotted and axed by editor Robin Reynolds; please. see
> webpage;. http://www.pair.com/spook/evidence/plaint/ariel.htm
> Clearly the BBC will not. allow claims of its wrongdoing to be made public
> in the media. channels it controls.
>
> On several occasions people. said to my face that harassment from the TV
> was happening. On the first day I worked in Oxford, I. spent the evening
> in
> the local pub the Rose and Crown with the company's technical. director
> Ian, and Phil, another employee. Ian made a few references to. me and said
> to Phil, as if in an aside, "Is. he the bloke who's been on TV?" to which
> Phil replied, "Yes,. I think so".
>
> The reader. might think that mere "watching" by newscasters etc might be a
> relatively benign happening.. But it is not; it is part of MI5s framework
> of harassment and lies. On many occasions the. reactions of the BBCs
> newscasters to me has been in the nature of. sarcasm, implicit contempt
> and
> abuse. This is visible in Witchells. news programme mentioned above, where
> he engages in abuse by laughing at me during his newsreading.. It was
> particularly visible in the early period of 1990-92, and as late as.
> Autumn
> 1993, when during a Newsnight broadcast Jeremy Paxman. interviewed a
> football person about soccer. hooliganism, and the interviewee gave vent
> to
> an unsubtle rant about "theyre idiots, theyre just idiots,. keep up the
> surveillance". Paxman started grinning,. showing he understood and was
> taking. part in the abuse being perpetrated on that programme.
>
> Conclusion
>
> The MI5 Persecution started with. harassment by television newscasters,
> and
> today. harassment by TV and radio presenters still forms a key part of
> MI5s
> activities against me. When this business started in June 1990 I was. in
> relatively good. health of mind. Years of persecution by the secret police
> and. their mouthpieces in the state-run BBC and other media eroded my
> health until MI5 achieved their aim of. seeing me rendered mentally ill in
> November 1992. The diagnosis. which was forced on me unfortunately and
> ironically meant that my reports of the. harassment are disregarded,
> because the mentally ill are second-class. citizens in todays Britain.
>
> Yet TV and radio. harassment continues, albeit in a reduced form, despite
> my taping all the programmes I watch, resulting in my. being able to
> obtain
> and demonstrate objectively on the website. instances of media presenters
> attacking me. Unfortunately. these recorded instances are quite tenuous; I
> might understand them, the presenters. understand what it is theyre doing,
> but despite many thousands of. people knowing the truth of the "newscaster
> watching", the omerta continues and they continue to refuse. to admit the
> truth of the matter. It is. a terrible indictment of British society that
> there is not even one decent person. willing to speak out. I look forward
> to the day when. the truth does finally emerge, and the mass corruption
> which has allowed the MI5 persecution to take place. is finally purged and
> the Establishment. criminals caught and appropriately punished.
>
> 5660
>
Dave Plowman (News)
jim <j...@home.net> wrote:
> If anyone can point me to some legitimate info about this schizophrenic
> individual, such as real name, address, etc. I will take care of this
> little posting problem personally.
If it annoys you so much why re-post the entire fooking article?
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Eeyore
jim wrote:
> If anyone can point me to some legitimate info about this schizophrenic
> individual, such as real name, address, etc. I will take care of this little
> posting problem personally.
Firstly you need to remove uk.misc from the reply. That's where he gets the kick
of harvesting the replies.
A quick Google reveals all. Someone did post a link to his site last time he
flooded Usenet.
The guy's seriously mentally disturbed. He lives in the UK currently AIUI, so
it'll be a long trip for you to fix the problem.
I do wish that all the news providers had a bar on posts with multiple instances
of MI5 in them though.
Graham
UCLAN
>>If anyone can point me to some legitimate info about this schizophrenic
>>individual, such as real name, address, etc. I will take care of this
>>little posting problem personally.
>
> If it annoys you so much why re-post the entire fooking article?
Because he uses OE and doesn't know any better. IOW, he's a fool.
jim
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriend...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> jim wrote:
>
>> If anyone can point me to some legitimate info about this schizophrenic
>> individual, such as real name, address, etc. I will take care of this
>> little
>> posting problem personally.
>
> Firstly you need to remove uk.misc from the reply. That's where he gets
> the kick
> of harvesting the replies.
>
> A quick Google reveals all. Someone did post a link to his site last time
> he
> flooded Usenet.
>
> The guy's seriously mentally disturbed. He lives in the UK currently AIUI,
> so
> it'll be a long trip for you to fix the problem.
I don't want to go there...just assist the UK government in providing some
sort of help for him.
He is most certianly mentally disturbed. And, he is certainly a public
nusance. Seeing as he is abusing public and private computer systems and
that he is definitely in need of some mental help, I find it hard to believe
that there is nothing that can be done to ensure that he neither harms
himself or others.
Surely there is something that the UK governments can do to stop this
lunacy.
>
> I do wish that all the news providers had a bar on posts with multiple
> instances
> of MI5 in them though.
I asked the server wrangler at my ISP to do something, but he insists his
hands are tied (proabably by MI5 ;) ).
As do I. I have tried banning the user....but that only bans the email
address - which he is sane enough to change.
Couldn't find that info on Google. If anyone has the website address of our
MI5 friend, I would appreciate it being posted.
Thanks!
jim
Eric Gisin
His name is Mike Corley. He is part of usenet history.
Mike lives in Clapham, South London, he first began his postings
to usenet, BBS, and online forums back in 1996, which is long before
most of you, especially google gropers, learned of he internet let
alone knew how to use it.
But Mikes paranoia of alleged MI5 persecution can be traced back
as far 1990, when newspaper editors, TV newsdesks, magazine
reviewers, radio shows et al, first received Mike's reports of his
harassment by UK security services and MI5 operatives.
Mike has his own website:
http://www.five.org.uk/
There have been numerous newspaper articles and online thesis
about Mike's postings, this is a BBC article on the subject:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A164404
And amongst many other covers of the Mike Corley phenomenon
there has been a modern opera about this usenet legend:
http://www.thecorleyconspiracy.com/
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jim
Thanks so much for this information.
Perhaps we can get Mike some help. Nobody's life should be wasted being
afraid of the boogeyman. There are enough real threats to be concerned
about.
jim
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