Heavy Watergate
knews4...@yahoo.com
knews4...@yahoo.com
> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=cold+fusion+
> documentary&hl=en&emb=0&aq=4&oq=Cold+Fusion#
And the censorship continues?
http://www.wanttoknow.info/mass_media/media_censorship_cold_fusion
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=cold+fusion+
> documentary&hl=en&emb=0&aq=4&oq=Cold+Fusion#
Bwahahahahahaha !
Cold fusion (sometimes referred to as low energy nuclear reaction (LENR)
studies or condensed matter nuclear science[1]) refers to a postulated
nuclear fusion process of unknown mechanism offered to explain a group
of disputed experimental results first reported by electrochemists
Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons.
Postulated
Unkown mechanism
Disputed experimental results
Enthusiasm turned to skepticism as early replication failures were
weighed in view of several theoretical reasons cold fusion should not be
possible, the discovery of possible sources of experimental error, and
finally the discovery that Fleischmann and Pons had not actually
detected nuclear reaction byproducts.
Skepticism
Replication Failures
Several theoretical reasons cold fusion should not be possible
Possible sources of experimental error
Fleischmann and Pons had not actually detected nuclear reaction
byproducts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
Graham
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
In the Fleischmann and Pons experiments, the rate of excess heat
generation was in the range of 10-20% of total input.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
That 10-20% will be accounted for by normal system losses sunshine. It's
not a useful percentage.
Graham
fka...@sbcglobal.net
Proof certain the toleration and non-censorship of idiotic arguments
continues is your years of utter nonsense and devotion to any and all
conspiracy ideas. Nobody has stopped your demonstration of foolishness
for so many years. It makes no difference how many times you are
demonstrated as being in error or how many times you claim that
fundamental principles of science are broken. You persist. You surely
must be without either basic intelligence or a subtley paranoid
personality controls you. Have you no sense of shame? You are a laughing
stock of this news group.
FK
knews4...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.....
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=water+plasma&aq=f
Eeyore
Fred Kasner
There you go again. Posting more of your usual stupidity. Oh. Wait! I
see you are speaking in "tongues." I guess those voices that you hear
all the time told you to do this.
FK
Bill Ward
No brain, no pain, Fred. At least he's happy. He does seem to me to be
deteriorating and less entertaining recently.
knews4...@yahoo.com
Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
Have all the money needed now for production after Gen Set testing and
demonstration.
Thanks for noticing my joy.
Two Buggies with injector systems in the works similar to Meyer's tech
drawings.
As long as my Tech stays alive all is well.
You'll see it when we need publicity.
Who knows when that will be?
Have all the money needed so why ask for trouble.
All these BK auto manufacturers are tempting buys.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=water+plasma+engine&aq=0&oq=water+plasma
PV
>Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
Yeah, right. You don't have jack, liar. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
knews4...@yahoo.com
> knews4u2c...@yahoo.com writes:
> >Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
>
> Yeah, right. You don't have jack, liar. *
> --
> * PV
Sorry to disappoint you.
Gen-set has been running over a year.
Demonstration brought in plenty of funds for start up.
Have pro-forma agreements with utilities.
Thanks for your interest.
"Water Works" (c)
Eeyore
PV wrote:
> knews4...@yahoo.com writes:
> >Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
>
> Yeah, right. You don't have jack, liar. *
Prototypes of Meyer's car ? ;~)
Graham
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
> > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com writes:
> > >Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
> >
> > Yeah, right. You don't have jack, liar. *
> > --
> > * PV
>
> Sorry to disappoint you.
> Gen-set has been running over a year.
Yours has ? Fully documented ?
Graham
Benj
wrote:
> Skepticism
> Replication Failures
> Several theoretical reasons lightning should not be possible
> Possible sources of experimental error
> Benjamin Franklin had not actually detected lightning electricity
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning
>
> Graham
I'm still waiting for your replicated experiments to call down this so-
called lightning at will!
If it's not repeatable it's all nonsense.
You are a complete moron. You know nothing about science at all if you
believe in lightning!
How much evidence do you need to see that you are defending a hoax?
Go read a freshman textbook on meteorology.
Idiot.
knews4...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Better get your attributions right.
I have nothing to with "Cold Fusion."
We are using high voltage.
Subject: Re: Stanley Meyer's Court Case
From: "Ted Zettergren" <ted.zet...@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:59:28 +0100
John Feiereisen skrev i meddelandet <756atu$mkn
$1...@client2.news.psi.net>...
>For those of you who are unfamiliar, Stanley Meyer patented some
>equipment for fueling an IC engine with hydrogen. In addition to this
>legitimate work, he claimed to be able decompose water into hydrogen
>and oxygen with >100% thermal efficiency, thereby inventing a
>"water-powered car".
By the way. If you like to do some experiment, try this.
AT FIRST:
You must know the difference between a chemical reaction and a
nuclear reaction. A lot of people don't understand that but they like
to argue a lot in every NG on Internet.
In a chemical reaction you need a lot of current and some salt for
making the water conductive.
In a nuclear reaction you don't need any current at all, only high
voltage. How much current you need in a real application depends
on how clean your water is. As cleaner as better.
Stanley Meyers method's have NOTHING to do with chemical
reactions.
HOW TO?
As a guide, you need US Patent 4,936,961 ref. figure 1 to 3F.
If you read something about magical frequencyis, forget that.
It works fine with 10KHz or something else if you preferred.
Use 50% duty cycle. BUT! the frequency will be doubled in the
step up circuit and that's the frequency the Water-Cell will work
with. The components must resist at least 2000V.
The Water-Cell is very simple. Take a lot of stainless steel tubes
with the inner diameter of the bigger tube 3mm bigger than the outer
diameter of the inner tube. From now you must look at this
Water-Cell as a capacitor with water as dilectricum.
The Water-Cell and the INDUCTOR will resonate at a specific
frequency. It's a normal RC-circuit.
Now the most important: The Water-Cell/Inductor frequency and
the doubled frequency from the generator must be exactly the
same. A special condition exists in a L/C Circuit, when it is
energized at a frequency at which the inductive reactance is equal
to the capacitive reactance, XL = XC.
Adjust the voltage peak level to reach a maximum hydrogen/oxygen
producing with a minimum of current using. If you earlier make
hydrogen with the electrolysis method with a lot of current,
this experiment will really surprise you.
For even less current you can make some experiment with a
centertapped puls-transformer.
Have a nice trip to Ohio!
Ted!
knews4...@yahoo.com
wrote:
I wouldn't call it "mine."
Too many others involved.
Gen-set fully financed to go into production.
Much of it is off the shelf from other companies with the "Fuel Cell"
add on.
Still have things to figure out on the injector system.
We wouldn't even bother if we hadn't gotten Meyer's tech drawings.
Won't be long now with all the money needed available.
There will be some papers written as to the "Process Theory."
Papers don't make money, demonstrations do.
Thanks for asking.
AZ Nomad
>knews4...@yahoo.com writes:
>>Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
>Yeah, right. You don't have jack, liar. *
too fucking funny. chewie is simultaniously saying that thermite and
cold fusion took out the towers while saying that the planes were a
figment of the imanation to thousands of viewers. Absolute insanity.
Gunner Asch
Sometimes I wonder if they simply found the dope, or are being used as
test medium by the drug designers.
Either way..it is funny as hell watching what they post.
Gunner
"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"
NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > In the Fleischmann and Pons experiments, the rate of excess heat
> > generation was in the range of 10-20% of total input.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
> >
> > That 10-20% will be accounted for by normal system losses sunshine. It's
> > not a useful percentage.
>
>
> Better get your attributions right.
> I have nothing to with "Cold Fusion."
> We are using high voltage.
Which is completely WRONG for electrolysis.
Graham
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
> > > > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com writes:
> > > > >Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
> >
> > > > Yeah, right. You don't have jack, liar. *
> > > > --
> > > > * PV
> >
> > > Sorry to disappoint you.
> > > Gen-set has been running over a year.
> >
> > Yours has ? Fully documented ?
> >
> > Graham
>
> I wouldn't call it "mine."
So whose is it and where are the documented figures ?
Graham
Eeyore
AZ Nomad wrote:
Hopefully, he'll implode soon. ;~)
Graham
knews4...@yahoo.com
> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:52:19 -0500, PV <pv+use...@pobox.com> wrote:
> >knews4u2c...@yahoo.com writes:
> >>Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
> >Yeah, right. You don't have jack, liar. *
>
> too fucking funny. chewie is simultaniously saying that thermite and
> cold fusion took out the towers while saying that the planes were a
> figment of the imanation to thousands of viewers. Absolute insanity.
Liar.
Got any cites for you lies?
knews4...@yahoo.com
That's because it is NOT "classic" electrolysis.
Meyer's process is called "Electrical Polarization."
You will NEVER get it if you don't do the experiment.
knews4...@yahoo.com
None of your business.
And none of your business.
I'm not asking for anything from you or anyone here.
We have all the money and talent we need.
Thanks for your interest.
Why would I tell you or anyone in this spook infested place any
particulars?
You will see in due time as long as my Technician stays alive and the
banks stay open.
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > > In the Fleischmann and Pons experiments, the rate of excess heat
> > > > generation was in the range of 10-20% of total input.
> >
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
> >
> > > > That 10-20% will be accounted for by normal system losses sunshine. It's
> > > > not a useful percentage.
> >
> > > Better get your attributions right.
> > > I have nothing to with "Cold Fusion."
> > > We are using high voltage.
> >
> > Which is completely WRONG for electrolysis.
> >
> > Graham
>
> That's because it is NOT "classic" electrolysis.
> Meyer's process is called "Electrical Polarization."
> You will NEVER get it if you don't do the experiment.
A figment of your addled imagination. Apply a sufficient voltage between 2
electrodes in water with some ions in it ( i.e tap water ) and classic
electrolysis is inevitable.
Graham
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > pv+use...@pobox.com (PV) wrote:
> > > > > > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com writes:
> > > > > > >Just waiting for production prototypes to be complete.
> >
> > > > > > Yeah, right. You don't have jack, liar. *
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > * PV
> >
> > > > > Sorry to disappoint you.
> > > > > Gen-set has been running over a year.
> >
> > > > Yours has ? Fully documented ?
> >
> > > > Graham
> >
> > > I wouldn't call it "mine."
> >
> > So whose is it and where are the documented figures ?
> >
> > Graham
>
> None of your business.
> And none of your business.
So you have none. As expected. The scientific method requires PROOF not
stupid words.
Graham
Don Lancaster
The key thing that the Meyer electrocity fanatics do not realize is that
you do not have to drive coast to coast with a costly prototype.
All you have to show is a repeatedly and independently observable
phenonomen in ONE drop of water that would allow the electrocity to exist.
EIS researchers routinely make such tests tens of thousands of times a
day with uniformly negative results. The experiment HAS been done and IS
repeated a ridiculous number of times daily.
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/muse137.pdf
http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu08.asp#05-22-08
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/bashpseu.pdf
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/trashelc.pdf
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/muse153.pdf
--
Many thanks,
Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: d...@tinaja.com
Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com
PV
Full of shit. *
PV
>> > Sorry to disappoint you.
>> > Gen-set has been running over a year.
>>
>> Yours has ? Fully documented ?
>>
>Too many others involved.
>Gen-set fully financed to go into production.
Hm, that doesn't sound like running.
>Much of it is off the shelf from other companies with the "Fuel Cell"
>add on.
And that doesn't sound like it has a fuel cell
>Still have things to figure out on the injector system.
And that doesn't sound like it works at all.
>We wouldn't even bother if we hadn't gotten Meyer's tech drawings.
Suuure you did. *
knews4...@yahoo.com
Not without "appreciable current."
When voltage is the dominant force it's called "Electrical
Polarization."
It is the "novel" process concerning the "composition of matter"
patented by Meyer under Sec 101 of the PTO.
35 U.S.C. 114 Models, specimens.
"The Commissioner may require the applicant to furnish a model of
convenient size to exhibit advantageously the several parts of his
invention. When the invention relates to a composition of matter, the
Commissioner may require the applicant to furnish specimens or
ingredients for the purpose of inspection or experiment."
Subject: Re: Stanley Meyer's Court Case
From: "Ted Zettergren" <ted.zetterg...@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:59:28 +0100
John Feiereisen skrev i meddelandet <756atu$mkn
$...@client2.news.psi.net>...
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > > > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > knews4u2c...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > > > > > In the Fleischmann and Pons experiments, the rate of excess heat
> > > > > > generation was in the range of 10-20% of total input.
> >
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion
> >
> > > > > > That 10-20% will be accounted for by normal system losses sunshine. It's
> > > > > > not a useful percentage.
> >
> > > > > Better get your attributions right.
> > > > > I have nothing to with "Cold Fusion."
> > > > > We are using high voltage.
> >
> > > > Which is completely WRONG for electrolysis.
> >
> > > That's because it is NOT "classic" electrolysis.
> > > Meyer's process is called "Electrical Polarization."
> > > You will NEVER get it if you don't do the experiment.
> >
> > A figment of your addled imagination. Apply a sufficient voltage between 2
> > electrodes in water with some ions in it ( i.e tap water ) and classic
> > electrolysis is inevitable.
>
> Not without "appreciable current."
> When voltage is the dominant force it's called "Electrical
> Polarization."
> It is the "novel" process concerning the "composition of matter"
> patented by Meyer under Sec 101 of the PTO.
No such thing.
Graham
knews4...@yahoo.com
With "restricted amps."
The process requires "mili-amps."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N78E_qA4ws0&feature=PlayList&p=CBB6F79D7C98C37A&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=100
Subject: Re: Stanley Meyer's Court Case
From: "Ted Zettergren" <ted.zetterg...@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:59:28 +0100
John Feiereisen skrev i meddelandet <756atu$mkn
$...@client2.news.psi.net>...
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
Things don't have to work to get a patent. Especially with the USPTO.
Graham
Eeyore
knews4...@yahoo.com wrote:
> You must know the difference between a chemical reaction and a
> nuclear reaction.
Which you clearly DO NOT.
Graham
fka...@sbcglobal.net
Already providing yourself with an exit strategy when it doesn't work, I
see.
FK
Eeyore
"fka...@sbcglobal.net" wrote:
I don't see how he had a 'entry stragey' to be quite honest in the first
place. It's all 'fairy tales'.
Graham