250 MPG 277 HP
TJ Indianlake
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10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
Don Lancaster
Their MPG is clearly ZERO unless they figure out how to recycle the
condensate.
http://www.tinaja.com/glib/nrglect2.pdf
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> TJ Indianlake wrote:
>> Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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>> on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
>>
>> 10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
>>
>
>
> Their MPG is clearly ZERO unless they figure out how to recycle the
> condensate.
If you have condensate, that is pretty simple. It is bleeding off the
heat to get that condensate that becomes a challenge.
But, you missed the best part. A diagram drawn by a teenager. But you
have to give him points for the novel steam to hydraulic scheme even if
it will never work.
This kid is destined to learn some physics or be the master of the next
water fuel scam...
PV
>TJ Indianlake wrote:
>> Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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>> on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
>>
>> 10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
>>
>Their MPG is clearly ZERO unless they figure out how to recycle the
>condensate.
Or maybe they can put the badly photographed and nigh-unreadable
posterboard on the back of a 250MPG 277 HP vehicle. *
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* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews.
Don Lancaster
> Don Lancaster <d...@tinaja.com> writes:
>> TJ Indianlake wrote:
>>> Whale.Steam.Engine.3.jpg
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>>> on Wednesday, October 14, 2009
>>>
>>> 10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
>>>
>> Their MPG is clearly ZERO unless they figure out how to recycle the
>> condensate.
>
> Or maybe they can put the badly photographed and nigh-unreadable
> posterboard on the back of a 250MPG 277 HP vehicle. *
Nope. You would have to increase the horsepower because of the increased
aerodynamic drag.
Bob Eld
"TJ Indianlake" <TJindi...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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OK, I'll bite. What is the childish drawing supposed to represent? And,
somebody did their math wrong: 10in^3 per second at 650 psi is not even one
HP at 542 ft-lb per second. Check your work before you post such gibberish.
tj Frazir
This is just how a 4 cyclinder water rocket driving a slide vane rotor
works and volume ..
tj Frazir
Thats a sslide vane rotor with an ineer-am wheel. The vanes re held
into the rotor flush with valve springs untill vanes ride up on the cam
wheel and are pushed out of the rotor to block the water flow without
gap at the top as the block moves if the cam wheel is moved.
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi at the top of a 400 cubic inch cylinder
full of water will push the water out the bottom .
IF you dont use the rotor and just put a je ski nosel there at 1.2
inch..you have a 700 pound thrust water rocket that will use 10 cubic
inch steam per second .
A steam power jet ski uses 1300 per second.
A steam power water rocket uses 10 per second.
converting the energy cost you 90 % of the energy .
tj Frazir
about 15 rotor revolutions per cyclinder stroke or per second 600 cubic
inch per second.
The exhuast valve opens top o ylinder and the
side flap only opens into the cylinder so water fills the cylinder up
100 % with water.
The valve closed then the steam is injected in 1/50 th second.
The steam forces the water out the bottom flap.
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why is that a bad pic ? its too easy to build one from that pic.
That pic might hurt your head thats all.
1 million miles without a breakdown ..after years of evolution after
this 15 year old pic.
a train can pull your ton 200 mileson a gallon and now your car can do
that better because I put the 60 strokes per minut in the car and it has
13 times the tourk.
slide out 4 inch of vane at 650 psi..2400 foot pounds between road and
wheel.
tj Frazir
with 600 cubic inch water in it and a 2 inch hole at the bottom.
double the water volume and steam volume for a 1 second stroke out the
2 inch hole for 1 second even.
Picked up a 600 pound wieght with it a block of conrete 600 bl with
1300 pound thrust 100 feet up in 3 seconds so thats 33 feet per second
770 pounds sent 33 feet in 1 second.
The enrgine you used as a standard is 12000 cubic inch per second and
it wount do shit with just 10 cubic inches .
This is a water rocket not a V8 .
It wount have the losses a V8 has because it dont convert the thrust
into rotation where 95 % is waisted.
put your boat beside the 4 cylinder water rocket without its rotor and
lets race.
The laws of conservation says you cant winn.
tj Frazir
There is no tranny.
No rods ..no crank,,no 6000 rpm ,,no oil pump.
The lube oil is in the water.
You cant hurt it ..
its 50 HP when you want 50..
and its 500 hp when you want 500.
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No car engine can compete with it.
10 % the fuel ,,more power ..last longer and dont break down ,,is far
cheeper and too simple.
in boat without the slide vane rotor or in a car with it.
tj Frazir
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drove suv 32 hours at 60 mph on $ 15 of propane
tj Frazir
10 cubic inch steam will get you farther in the water rocket then in
the V8.
The V8 must convert it to rotation then back to mechanical thrust and
converted it twice.
thats a stupid standard of a HP !
The water rocket wount convert it to rotation and wount loose that
energy.
10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi will send a 5 gal water jug from
colligan out of sight in 5 seconds.
lets see your engine do that
tj Frazir
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Dont like the pic ? :)
Thats the end of the oil age at 10 % th fuel and the electric co
because its 10 %.
Thats so simple to build this pic is all you neaded.
That is a very small power washer pump turned real slow to force water
into a coil tube with a burner under it to keep it steam hot.
A mini doble boiler .
The valvle relay is just a set of clocks so evry second the next
cyclider fires.
The water rocket 4 cyclinder is just what it looks like ,,real simple
and works perfect.
It will work perfect for a lng long time because thats not much there
to go bad.
I can allways just make morre steam and not hurt the engine ..your
car engine will bust long befor this .
I biult the bust out of whale 7 ,,,
your looking at a 15 year old pic.
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not whale 7.
TJ Indianlake
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The water rocket on the far right has 15 cubic inches of steam at 650
psi in it .
Your boat must compete with an engine that dont convert it to
rotation.
No other engine on earth can compete with it.
Its real simple . It must be simple or it would have converted it to
rotation and waisted it if it wasnt so simple .
TJ Indianlake
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Try this pic
tj Frazir
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This pic might be better.
Your cars cylinder has 5 cubic inches of steam at 250 psi at tdc.
The last cyninder befor the tank is injecting steam as the bottom flap
is pushed open.
Thats just like the stroke in your car bbut with a water piston .
nead boat or ship engine just drop th rotor off and run with a jet
nosel.
tj Frazir
a turbine .
This slide vane rotor is 1002 % better .
Run a 22 inch pipe up a mountain side to a stream down to a big slr
with 200 square inch vanes. 1000 foot fall even in 5 miles of pipe is
500 psi. The rotor can have an AC ride on its rim where 300,000 pounds
is turning it at 38000 HP.
OR for a small job run a 2 inch up to where ever and use a small 24
inch R svr.
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There is more then 1 invention here.
I reinvented the rotor.
i re-invented the water rocket.
I re-invented valves and you see the mechanical equivelant.
Whale 7 is the evolution of whale 1 and about the 1000th engine then
that ebgine 7 has evolved into tgotb and moe.
ignorance is 99 % of the oil age.
tj Frazir
Your just wrong.
The truck is 25 ton gets 7 mpg.
The car is 1 ton gets 25 mpg.
25 car-tons get 1 mile per gallon.
25 truck tons gets 7 mile per gallon
.......................................................
thats 1/7th the fuel on duration.
if the car had the trucks duration it will get 175
tj Frazir
The car is 1 ton gets 25 mpg.
25 car-tons get 1 mile per gallon.
25 truck tons gets 7 mile per gallon
thats 1/7th the fuel on duration.
tj Frazir
Yet the train is better duration.
110 rpm diesel.
It gets 200 MPG per ton .
The whale steam engine puts the trains duration in your car minus the
wieght of the traincar at 250 MPG.
got a problem with that ?
tj Frazir
Are you going to ignore the best engine ?
Because of your addtude ?
I care less about adolecentadulta .
Re: 200 MPG per ton train
Group: sci.energy.hydrogen Date: Mon, Oct 19, 2009, 12:35am From:
Gravity...@webtv.net (tj Frazir)
PV
>> Or maybe they can put the badly photographed and nigh-unreadable
>> posterboard on the back of a 250MPG 277 HP vehicle. *
>
>Nope. You would have to increase the horsepower because of the increased
>aerodynamic drag.
Maybe they could make a fairing out of it - it's a better use than what it
was originally put to.
Until I read your response, I couldn't make enough sense out of it realize
that it's a picture of a water-wheel car. Nutty. *
tj Frazir
Peak duration is not cheating the laws of conservation at all.
The train did not defie conservation.
It is 200 MPG per ton at 110 rpm diesel.
The 250 MPG car dont defie any laws .
It has the same peak duration as the train.
more math then the other 6 billion people could do.
tj Frazir
cuz im one rich old dude.
I colect ships.
two ways we can end the oil age.
1 ,, gov vrs gov ..force gov t compete with gov.
like china vrs usa.
2 ,,show evryone for free how simple the best engine is. And let them
run with it .
3. Buy GM and outsell evryone else with 250 mpg cars that wount ever
break down.
4 , nuke the planet.
The gov in usa dont want anything that works
But wount stop this because chiina has it HK has it england has it
..
fuck all the pattents ,,ill improve it and void yours. I can allways
pattent my best engine .
when I do im donating it to evryone that wants to biuld them in evry
country as to prevent monopolies .
Im soooo rich I dont care if i buy GM or not.
I can care less if china sells the first suv-svr
tj Frazir
You looked at it a few times.
Your just ignorant and you work for an auto maker that loves it self.
or maybe your just flat out stupid.
tj Frazir
So why is it 200 MPG when your getting 25 ?
Why does the train take a ton 200 MPG but your 1 ton car gets 25 mpg !
If your car had the same peak duration that the train does you will get
200 MPG .
The train diesel stroke is 100 rpm 1/2 second stroke.
Your car uses a stroke in 1/50th a second.
The train at 1/2 and your car at 1/50.
Thats identical to a few things.
Thats the same as the difrance in the fuel used per ton.
peak duration is the best combination of a few things .
PV
>Not what the counter says jackass.
Your counter says "Jackass"? what number system are you using?
> You looked at it a few times.
Your point being?
> Your just ignorant and you work for an auto maker that loves it self.
My just ignorant what?
> or maybe your just flat out stupid.
My flat out stupid what? *
tj Frazir
100 hover dams = hover dam svr
100 times the dam will power this entire planet.
I give info to people .
these are very nasty greedy people ..
they wount build a better elecric plant and lower electric rates
,,,thats stupid for greed.
My small bucket srv is 17 HP.
it runs 17 HP all month on $ 4 .
its been running for 10 years .
I built it on $ 1000. because the 3 phase 20 HP cost me $ 400 used.
12 inch 6 R rotor .
a fill once a year fuel tank tank. and forget its on and forget the
electric bill and heat bill showing up.
they can eat it..te electric co is toast.
Or they can drop the price to stay in biz at all.
Then they nead a svr to compete.
its the hdra-rotor small pic above the whale 3.
You can run a pipe up a hillside to a stream and run one and its 1000
times better then anything else like a turbine or piston .
Thats svr hydra will be easy to run and never change speeds once you
set the flow .
tj Frazir
The pic you draw cant be as good as the pic math drew.
Re: 7 times mpg with peak duration
So draw a better pic !
It must be identical to the physical laws of conservation and be equal
the trains 200 MPG per ton duration.
draw the engine that puts the train engines stroke of 110 RPM in the
cars engine drawing.
Make this car get 200 MPG same as tthe train.
Steam power 4 cyclinder water rocket driving a slide vane rotor is
better then the trains duration and fits in less spacee then the car
engine does now.
tj Frazir
Your car/ton is at 25 MPG .
If I was the oil and automaker..
id keep this hushed up forever.
if it gets out ,,,,energy monopolies are over.
What do you think ?
I think I let math pick .
so I did all the math onevrything.
I did the math on anything.
I did more math then has ever been done.
I experemented.
I blew up cans under water to watch and time the bubble .
Ive biult all kinds of shit just to get math out of it.
I spent millions.
I built allot of engines.
a whole boat load.
tj Frazir
13 times the trouk can rip the side walls out of the back wheels in a
funny car.
then TGOTB is P-max o2 boosted fuel injected into super/steam.
2800 foot pounds per inch of vane.
4 inch vane is 9000 foot pounds at 500 rpm.
tj Frazir
5 miles of pipe .
With the 24 x 4 inch svr .
4000 foot pounds at 400 rpm slower then waters flow .
Thats a cheep reliable hydra-electric that cranks !
But ajust to any head and its worth it.
tj Frazir
Its a set of drawings not a book.
Your car is 1 ton gets 25 mpg so 25 ccars is 25 tons and gets 1 gallon
per mile at 25 tons.
A truck is 25 tons and gets 7 mpg or 175 mpg/ton
a train gets 200 mpg/ton
Why are you too stupid and ignorant not to talk about energy ?
ALL you have done is make an ass of your self and prove by silence your
all too stupid to comunicate about anything related to facts.
I bet your as poor as you are stupid.
are you too good to talk energy ?
whats your problem ?
stick the axx in deep...and start over.
tj Frazir
2 , Your investmnts are gona tank.
3 , You care about your forced energy sales and monopoly cash.
4 ,, Your fucked because Im buying GM and allready have 100 million
engines and have only spent 1 billion.
Heres an invention they wount steel because the oil boss will have them
shot.
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tj Frazir
self serving brainless twits.
Know how I deal with morons ?
I can give what works to people in other places.
You can buy yours when evryone else has one.
You dont fucking think.
You are stupid and wrong and fakes.
brainless twits get whats feed to them and im busting yur spoons
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if your car dont get 175 mpg then YOU ARE FUCKING STUPID
A fucking 25 ton truck gets 175 mpg per ton so why dont your car
DUMBASSES !
The only problem with energy is as long as they can keep you FUCKING
stupid you will KEEP PAYING for staying fucking stupid.
and you are all fucking stupid
tj Frazir
175 MPG per ton is reality because millions of trucks are 25 ton and
get 7 mpg.
And you know from tv that trains are 200 mpg per ton.
Steam power 4 cyclinder water rocket diving the slide vane rotor puts
the truck and trains DURATION in your car .
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The end of the oil age ..
in a world that fears distroying the past to build a future.
tj Frazir
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175 mpg per ton is the standard .
Evry 25 ton truck at 7 mpg is in fact 1 ton at 175 mpg .
100 GOD DAM YEARS of hiding this engine worked so well you dont even
know what it is.
Its still the engine the GOV wount let you see.
Its the engine NOT IN a single book.
because the gov and standard oil got rid of it and still gaurd it
today.
im a billionaire and spent 1 on 100 million whale 7s.
This shit is about to hit the fan o fucking hardno one knows where all
the shit will go.
AZ Nomad
>Gravity...@webtv.net (tj Frazir) writes:
>>Not what the counter says jackass.
>Your counter says "Jackass"? what number system are you using?
>> You looked at it a few times.
>Your point being?
>> Your just ignorant and you work for an auto maker that loves it self.
>My just ignorant what?
>> or maybe your just flat out stupid.
>My flat out stupid what? *
It always cracks me up when somebody engages in a spelling flame while
misspelling a pile of words, or when an idiot like tj calls somebody
stupid while failing to exhibit the skills of a sixth grade education.
tj Frazir
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10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi per second.
One stroke per second.
24 x 4 inch slide vane rotor hub with 1x4x1/2 slots for 4 x 1/2 inch
slide vanes held flush with v8 valve springs.
Your far too stupid to coment on the engine.
1 ,,a dumbass will allways assume evryone speaks english and is from
usa.
What languages does a dumbass redneck like you speak ? Tryvial idiot
tj Frazir
and a 25 ton truck gets 7 mpg.
One truck ton gets 175 MPG .
Why dont your one ton car get 175 mpg ?
Eeyore
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>
Clearly nonsense from the basic principles of thermodynamics.
Graham
Eeyore
>
> a train can pull your ton 200 miles on a gallon
Did you study at The University of Idiocy ?
Graham
DanB
Why ask that? Because his number is low?
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_efficiency_in_transportation#Trains>
tj Frazir
Without looking id say its 235 mpg per train ton.
And a 25 ton truck IS 7 mpg and that IS 175 MPG per ton.
And 10 cubic inch steam at 650 psi injected into a 400 cubic inch
cylinder of water with a 1.2 inch nosel is 1 second of thrust at 500
pounds . Thats a jet ski from hell because that jet ski you have is the
same stroke of steam 400 times per second at 6000 rpm.
Your jet ski at 6000 rpm is 400 times a second.
The steam power water rocket is once per second.
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No way in hell your jet ski can run beside this 4 cylinder water rocket.
Its on 1 % the fuel of your boat.
Math rules.
tj Frazir
This slide vane rotor has its vanes held in flush with valve springs . A
cam wheel inside the rotor hub pushes the vanes out the top of the rotor
as the rotor turns and the gate block moves if the cam wheel does.
You wount find anything else like my rotor anywhere
tj Frazir
MSU ..then Spartain aeronnotics.
after xcity ussr. then amsterddam.
Im the planets biggest single trader and own 72 ships over 10,000 ton
and 2 over 150,000 ton and run lpe 22 inch cylinders 10 feet tall
without pistons because you cant convert the energy and not waist any so
I dont convert it and dont waist ANY.
IF then I waisted no energy because I did not convert it but used it at
peak duration then how will you convert it to rotation and back to
thrust 3 times and beet me ?
tj Frazir
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Mini doble boiler not the 1930 doble 13000 cubic inch per second tube
flash .
The mini is more like 120 cubic inch per second. You cant use the 1930
doble because its tooo much steam for your car .
1200 cubic inch second will run 2000 HP.
1 square inch of vane 1 rotation is 74 cubic inch more or less. at 500
rpm road speed thats 15 rotations per second ,,600 cubic inch per second
per inch of slide vane.
Water is driving the slide vane .
1000 cubic innch per second is 10% of anything else like a piston
engine of any kind.
Your car wishes it had a 30 inch stroke with a 4 inch boar.
tj Frazir
with water 100 %.
Its got 3 seconds to be full of water but neads 2.
Then the top valve shuts and the steam valve opens for 1/50 seconds .
That blasted the water out of the cylinder like a water rocket.
A relay timmer is programed to run the next cylinder and the next as to
allways run the next 1 second aprt.
Its simple .. tooo simple.
I build th best engines .
The few pics you see are over 13 years old.
fuel savings paid off a fleet.
Its no test engine .
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drop the tank between the roto and 4 cyclinders because you dont nead
that tank .
You dont nead the rotor either if your pushing a boat with the 4
cylinder water rocket.
The Train ton at 200 MPG is at 110 rpm and the truck is at 800 rpm and
your car is at 6000 rpm.
None of them are the peak duration of gas air steam. Only a water
rocket can run the peak duration of any amount of gas air that is put
in.
The water rocket will pick its own length of time for the stroke and
length of the stroke and use it all.
A steam piston and steam turbine converts steam to rotation but a
water rocket dont convert it to ratation and back to thrust.
Potenutal energy at peak duration is a 1 second thermal exchange at its
peak it is 1.1 seconds.
63 rpm is peak duration in any piston engine.
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But your piston engine cant do it.
This engine does it so easy your engines can not compete.
Your car dont have 2400 foot pounds of tourk when you nead it. Much
less 5000 foot pounds.
Your car has a trans,,and pistons and smog crap and a bunch of crap that
wears out fast like timming chains.
My engine has flaps that work thm selves a mini doble boiler and a
steam valve rack with a programable relay and an exhaust valve on top
each cylinder .
It drives a slide vane rotor with inner cam .
Not a thing you can bust or wear out in your life time .
Eeyore
Ever heard of inclines ?
Graham
Eeyore
> I know its low.
> Without looking id say its 235 mpg per train ton.
>
> And a 25 ton truck IS 7 mpg and that IS 175 MPG per ton.
Which, since it can go 'door to door' is a far better bet.
Graham
DanB
Have another pint and you will argue with any published number, I'm sure...
Eeyore
> west point.
> MSU ..then Spartain aeronnotics.
> after xcity ussr. then amsterddam.
>
> Im the planets biggest single trader
I suspect a mental illness at work here.
> and own 72 ships over 10,000 ton and 2 over 150,000 ton and run lpe 22 inch cylinders 10 feet tall
> without pistons
Care to post a link to an engine like that without pistons ?
In the meantime there's a REAL company called Maersk that has very large
ships using engines like this that DO have pistons ......
http://www.emma-maersk.com/engine/Wartsila_Sulzer_RTA96-C.htm
" At maximum economy the engine exceeds 50% thermal efficiency.
That is, more than 50% of the energy in the fuel in converted to motion."
Graham
Eeyore
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You're a clueless MORON. Standard for webtv users.
Graham
Eeyore
> Its simple .. tooo simple.
A good description of yourself.
Graham
Eeyore
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>
> drop the tank
On your head hopefully. You never know, it might shake your grey cells
into a configurattion where they work !
Graham
Eeyore
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>
> steam valve rack with a programable relay and an exhaust valve on top
> each cylinder .
> It drives a slide vane rotor with inner cam .
Your 'engine' doesn't exist.
Graham
Eeyore
Don't you have any hills where you live ?
Graham
DanB
If you have a problem with published numbers, show your study. I don't
have to defend published numbers. I don't have to 'prove' they take
terrain into consideration. Your claim, you fetch...
I've seen this stupid ploy many hundreds of time on usenet. You are not
clever. Amusing? Yes...
tj Frazir
in 1981.
Evry time I load a ship it pays for the ship.
Im a trader Ibuy nd sell ship loads.
I buy a ship load an hour after I sold it.
I am the planets best trader.
I use my money to buy ships and land banks forest ,,I bought 1 million
acres brazil 50,000 acres zambia 23000 aacres maine 40,000 mexico.
300,000 tons copper and split it 50 50 with zambia is 1 billion profit
per year.
My brazil farm is 5 million ton cane.
me and 4 other peope CAN buy GM.
You better look at this pic .
The cylinders are 400 cubic inch of water each and 10 cubic inch steam
at 650 psi .
Wiithout the last tank ,,eliminate the last tank end each stroke runs
out to 0.
One stroke per second.
Do the math stupid.
This is the best engine on earth built by the math on evrything that
ever was .
Math built it and its not converting thrust into rotation.
tj Frazir
Its 50 % better then a truck engine .
each cylinder is 200,000 pounds thrust but only puts out 10,000 pounds
thrust at the screw.
The ship engine converts 200,000 pounds into rotation on a 16 inch
crank .
If the poston wasnt there and water was it could push 10 feet of water
out without convering it to rotation.
You understand there is no way to convert it and not waist energy 50 %
evry time you do.
A car 4 inch piston is 250 psi or 12 squar inches at 250 psi 3000
pounds of thrust at 60 mph but just 800 pounds is pushing the car .
and the car is overlapping the trust at 4500 pounds thrust and 800
pounds is work.
4 second 22 inch x 10 foot stroke is 38000 HP water rocket. Its 3
times the ship HP on 1/8th the fuel.
The water rocket is 1/8th the ship engine and 1/400th a jet ski and
1/100th a boat motor.
Your spouting of about an engine you never did any math on.
tj Frazir
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You dont think this exsist !
Your retarted .
You dont know how o change your oil do you .
tj Frazir
But tgotb beets the ship 16 to 1.
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No rotor for a ship ,,just the nosel 22 inch.
In the 250 mpg 277 hp pic. the white top center is about 10 cubic inch
from the top filling wile the exhaust valve is open.
Thats a 4 inch cylinder and its 36 inch tall and the top 1 and 1/2 inch
will be full of steam at 650 psi in 1/50th second.
In the car.
But the ship then gets a drop of gas and 3 drops of O². ( rocket fuel
).
The car dont nead it.
The ship can run a few jets 22 inch each with a 20 cylnder 22 inch 10
feet tall pipes.
tj Frazir
Thats standard 175 MPG per ton.
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This is still better.
Your just stupid because this pic makes building one real easy.
I build the best engines on the planet.
tj Frazir
to thrust.
Evry time it was converted it lost energy.
The piston and crank does a bad job converting it then a prop does a
bad job converting it back to thrust.
It cant compete with any engine that dont convert it at all. The ship
that dont convert it used the most energy as work and lost the least
energy.
tj Frazir
inside.
I didnt show the top exhaust valves because they are too simple to
show.
I cut the mini doble boiler out because its by far better then the 1930
doble . The mini flash tube block and burner unit is automatic and
simple .
Its so good i dint show it.
You can use the mni doble as you know the 1930. Because i didnt show
you mine.
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This is how the 4 cyclinnder syeam power wate rocket works.
This is not how it looks having evolved for years.
In my ship i get the cylinders full and the xhaust valve is just
another flap on a light spring so it falls open when the cyl dont have
the force to hold it shut.
all that is left..
1 the rate i pump water inthe tube boiler and the flame size.
2..how long you let a steam valve open.
3.. how big you set te jet to be.
programable veribles.
I put the rotor flat
tj Frazir
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tj Frazir
the 17 hp home ac in a bucket.
far right is whale 1 the steam power water rocket boat cylinders
without a out flap.
Eeyore
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>
> You dont think this exsist !
Indeed I don't.
> Your retarted .
Talking of retarded, you don't even know how to spell properly.
> You dont know how o change your oil do you .
Oh yes I do. I prefer synthetics these days BTW. You need to change the
filter at the same time too.
Graham
tj Frazir
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hay stupid ,,you dint think Id cut an engine in two do ya fuckhead !
any machine shop can build whale 2.
175 MPG is the standard .
your just ignorant and stupid and arogant.