Name of plug in US
Man-wai Chang
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
What's the name of the plugs in USA?
It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
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Bob Villa
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> --
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RG6 or RG59. Mostly RG6 now for cable and satellite receivers.
The Ghost in The Machine
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
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THE ONES IN THE PIX ARE BNC CONNECTORS, USED IN SECURITY VIDEO SYSTEMS
IN THE U.S. AS WELL AS THE F CONNECTORS FOR RF TV VIDEO
PAT ECUM
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> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
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That is correct
The Ghost in The Machine
wrote:
> On Apr 30, 7:39 am, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
>
> THE ONES IN THE PIX ARE RCA CONNECTORS, USED IN SECURITY VIDEO SYSTEMS
> IN THE U.S. AS WELL AS THE F CONNECTORS FOR RF TV VIDEO
>
> PAT ECUM
> TGITM
OOPS!!! ON SECOND VIEWING THE ONE IN THE PIX IS USING CLASSY RCA
PLUGS, USED FOR COMPOSITE VIDEO AND AUDIO..
THE BNC CONNECTORS I MENTIONED ARE THE SLOTTED TWIST ON SUCKERS USED
AS EXPLAINED.
TGITM
Ivan
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> --
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This looks to me like an RF plug I have seen used for antenna input on
some imported FM tuners (my Onkyo has one). I don't recall the name
but Radio Shack used to have adapters to fit both the male and female
varieties of this to U,S,-standard threaded
F connectors.
Bill Gill
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
although it took him 2 tries. It is an RCA plug, used for
audio.
Bill
The Ghost in The Machine
CORRECT
TGITM
The Ghost in The Machine
> On 4/30/2011 6:39 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:
>
>
> > What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> > It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> You have gotten one good reply from The Ghost in the Machine,
> although it took him 2 tries. It is an RCA plug, used for
> audio.
>
> Bill
We may both be wrong..
They look like RCA But they are in fact imports used on Antenna
Connections to Signal Amplifiers.
ztgitm
Man-wai Chang
> They look like RCA But they are in fact imports used on Antenna
> Connections to Signal Amplifiers.
It's the TV antennae cable plug being used in Hong Kong, which was ruled
by UK before 1997. It's not RCA, the pin is shorter.
I wanna know the TECHNICAL name of that plug design.
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Man-wai Chang
No... tHe pin is a bit bigger and round at the tip. Not like BNC.
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Stephen
Weblink is in fact known as Belling Lee. They are used all over Great
Britain for both FM and UHF TV The ones in the pic are the male version of
Belling Lee.
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> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
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Chris S.
>> We may both be wrong..
>> They look like RCA But they are in fact imports used on Antenna
>> Connections to Signal Amplifiers.
>
> It's the TV antennae cable plug being used in Hong Kong, which was ruled
> by UK before 1997. It's not RCA, the pin is shorter.
>
> I wanna know the TECHNICAL name of that plug design.
>
Isn't it just a push-on non threaded F Connector?
Chris
Man-wai Chang
>> I wanna know the TECHNICAL name of that plug design.
>
> Isn't it just a push-on non threaded F Connector?
No screw!!
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Man-wai Chang
> All of you are all wrong.. The plugs that are on the white cable in the
> Weblink is in fact known as Belling Lee. They are used all over Great
> Britain for both FM and UHF TV The ones in the pic are the male version of
> Belling Lee.
I can't find a BNC female to Belling Lee adaptor in Amazon US...
In fact Amazon US doesn't have any electronics item with "Belling Lee"
in its specification.
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PV
> On 4/30/2011 10:16 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> All of you are all wrong.. The plugs that are on the white cable in
>> the Weblink is in fact known as Belling Lee. They are used all over
>> Great Britain for both FM and UHF TV The ones in the pic are the
>> male version of Belling Lee.
>
> I can't find a BNC female to Belling Lee adaptor in Amazon US...
>
> In fact Amazon US doesn't have any electronics item with "Belling Lee"
> in its specification.
2 minutes on google
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DerbyDad03
re: "...Hong Kong, which was ruled by UK before 1997...
Is that somehow relevant to your question?
Jeff Liebermann
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
Belling-Lee connector or IEC 169-2 connector
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug>
>What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
Belling-Lee connetors are not used in the USA. We use F connectors
and RCA connectors for TV RF:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector>
However, not all the F connector plugs are threaded as in "quick
connect" or "push on" connectors that simply slide over the threads.
Adapters are available:
<http://www.dealextreme.com/p/belling-lee-pal-tv-antenna-plug-to-f-cable-connectors-2-pack-18356>
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Man-wai Chang
> Is that somehow relevant to your question?
It seems that it's a UK format, like the 13A AC plug. :)
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> 2 minutes on google
PAL??? Belling Lee?
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> 2 minutes on google
BTW, it's being sold in Australia... not USA.
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Jamie
>> http://rfshop.com.au/Store/tabid/63/List/1/CategoryID/2/Category2ID/55/Category3/other/Level/3/ProductID/2928/Default.aspx
>>
>> 2 minutes on google
>
>
> PAL??? Belling Lee?
>
Jamie
Antonio Vernucci
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
That connector is extremely common in Italy. Its name is "9.5mm TV plug", see
http://www.xy-cabling.com/products/9-5mm-tv-plug-and-jack-602551.html
Adapters to F connectors are also very common, see
http://phaetonelectronic.en.made-in-china.com/product/AbWnTkFEhlhd/China-9-5mm-TV-Male-To-F-Female-Connector.html
Regards
Antonio Vernucci,
Rome Italy
Stephen
connector
There are at least three analogue TV broadcast systems, PAL, (Phase
Alternate Line), NTSC (National Television Standards Committee) and SECAM (a
variant of PAL where the audio and colour is carried in a different way)
Belling Lee is a connector standard, nothing to do with PAL so its a mistake
on the website.
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>> http://rfshop.com.au/Store/tabid/63/List/1/CategoryID/2/Category2ID/55/Category3/other/Level/3/ProductID/2928/Default.aspx
>> 2 minutes on google
>
> PAL??? Belling Lee?
>
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No its not as it won't physically fit.
Stephen
Bob F
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:39:47 +0800, Man-wai Chang
> <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>
> Belling-Lee connector or IEC 169-2 connector
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug>
>
>> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> Belling-Lee connetors are not used in the USA. We use F connectors
> and RCA connectors for TV RF:
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector>
> However, not all the F connector plugs are threaded as in "quick
> connect" or "push on" connectors that simply slide over the threads.
>
> Adapters are available:
> http://www.dealextreme.com/p/belling-lee-pal-tv-antenna-plug-to-f-cable-connectors-2-pack-18356
Thanks. I've got a dual tuner card from a thrift shop that has those connectors,
so you've just helped me out too.
Plai...@yawhoo.com
<pheeh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Apr 30, 6:39 am, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>>
>> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>>
>> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>>
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>> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
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>> ^ ^ 19:36:01 up 5 days 23:37 1 user load average: 1.09 1.05 1.05
>> ???! ???! ???! ???! ???! ???! ????? (CSSA):http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
>
>RG6 or RG59. Mostly RG6 now for cable and satellite receivers.
>
>http://www.walmart.com/ip/RCA-12-RG-6-Digital-Coaxial-Cable-With-Gold-Plated-F-Connectors-White/11600133?adid=77777777913300000038&wmlspartner=PSGooglePLA&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=11600133
RG6 and RG59 are CABLE designations, not a plug designation.
PlainBill
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What's the name of the plugs in USA?
It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
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Hello,
The F - connector is for Cable TV to plug into. There are usually other
jacks as well. Composite video and left & right audio jacks that are RCA.
Some TVs have an S-video jack which is a 4 pin connector that gives better
picture quality over composite video. Newer TVs will have Component video
jacks which are 3 video jacks all RCA, this is better that composite or
S-Video and even newer TVs with have an HDMI or DVI connector on them.
Using Component video cables for your picture will be better but less
convienent that HDMI.
Hope this help.
Shaun
mm
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>
>What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
>It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
So you want this to go on the antenna connector of a USA television?
Yes, F-connectors, but the name for oe without threads that goes on
quickly and holds on by spring tension, I don't know if I ever knew.
They sell adapters to go from threads to smooth at Ace Hardware for a
really good price, plus I guess they would have to name them on the
bubble pack. Hey< I still have some bubble packs.
Video adapter Push-on. Converts screw-on "F" type plug to push-on.
Adaptador para video
A presion
Only 99 cents a piece. Much cheaper than other brick stores, and
almost as cheap as mail order. Plus Ace Hardware has more hardware
than HD and Lowes.
So it's a push-on F-conector!
mm
wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:39:47 +0800, Man-wai Chang
><toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>>
>>What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>>
>>It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
>So you want this to go on the antenna connector of a USA television?
That is, if the answer to this question is Yes.
The url you give does have a center pin that is thicker than a US tv
will accept. But you brought up TVs so I'm figuring you provided the
wrong picture.
Percival P. Cassidy
> PAL refers to the type of analogueTV standard rather than he type of
> connector
>
> There are at least three analogue TV broadcast systems, PAL, (Phase
> Alternate Line), NTSC (National Television Standards Committee) and SECAM (a
> variant of PAL where the audio and colour is carried in a different way)
NTSC = Never Twice Same Color
SECAM = Something Entirely Contrary to American Method
PAL = Perfection At Last
Perce
mm
wrote:
Sure it will. Hold the back of the TV up to the screen. Oh, you're
right. The OP provided the wrong picture.
>
>Stephen
>
mm
<toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 4/30/2011 10:16 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> All of you are all wrong.. The plugs that are on the white cable in the
>> Weblink is in fact known as Belling Lee. They are used all over Great
>> Britain for both FM and UHF TV The ones in the pic are the male version of
>> Belling Lee.
>
>I can't find a BNC female to Belling Lee adaptor in Amazon US...
>
>In fact Amazon US doesn't have any electronics item with "Belling Lee"
>in its specification.
There is more to this world than Amazon.
Try Nile.com or Mississippi.com.
mm
wrote:
>PAL refers to the type of analogueTV standard rather than he type of
>connector
>
>There are at least three analogue TV broadcast systems, PAL, (Phase
>Alternate Line), NTSC (National Television Standards Committee) and SECAM (a
>variant of PAL where the audio and colour is carried in a different way)
>
>Belling Lee is a connector standard, nothing to do with PAL so its a mistake
>on the website.
And for that matter, BNC twist on, so why are they in this discussion
at all (in other posts)? I just learned that B stands for bayonet.
mm
mm
>
>
>"Man-wai Chang" wrote in message news:ipgsjv$ep8$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>
>What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
>It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
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>
>Hello,
>
>The F - connector is for Cable TV to plug into.
You must live in a Cable world. F is the only thing that will connect
to the antenna jack (or signal input jack) on most or all American tvs
these days, and to DVD recorders, and to VCRs in the past, and this
works well because F-connectors are used on the end of co-ax that goes
to antennas too, in the attic, on the roof, and probably from rabbit
ears, which btw are still sold.
So it hardly just for cable TV.
> There are usually other
>jacks as well. Composite video and left & right audio jacks that are RCA.
>Some TVs have an S-video jack which is a 4 pin connector that gives better
>picture quality over composite video. Newer TVs will have Component video
>jacks which are 3 video jacks all RCA, this is better that composite or
>S-Video and even newer TVs with have an HDMI or DVI connector on them.
>Using Component video cables for your picture will be better but less
>convienent that HDMI.
Yes, you're right.
>Hope this help.
>
>Shaun
John Fields
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NTSC
I hate repeats any way!
Jamie
The Daring Dufas
I've also heard them called "British Naval Connectors".
TDD
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> On 4/30/2011 10:16 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> All of you are all wrong.. The plugs that are on the white cable in the
>> Weblink is in fact known as Belling Lee. They are used all over Great
>> Britain for both FM and UHF TV The ones in the pic are the male version of
>> Belling Lee.
>
> I can't find a BNC female to Belling Lee adaptor in Amazon US...
>
> In fact Amazon US doesn't have any electronics item with "Belling Lee"
> in its specification.
In the US they are called PAL connectors.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103468
Geoff.
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson
>> We may both be wrong..
>> They look like RCA But they are in fact imports used on Antenna
>> Connections to Signal Amplifiers.
>
> It's the TV antennae cable plug being used in Hong Kong, which was ruled
> by UK before 1997. It's not RCA, the pin is shorter.
>
> I wanna know the TECHNICAL name of that plug design.
>
Belling-Lee.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling-Lee
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> I've also heard them called "British Naval Connectors".
In England some people joke that it stands for "Brand New Connector" and
the later TNC stands for "Terribly New Connector". :-)
Geoff
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> PAL refers to the type of analogueTV standard rather than he type of
> connector
Not in the US. They were called PAL connectors because only PAL TV sets and
VCR's used them. They were only sold in shops which catered to foreign
tourists, Indians and saliors. All three of which bought them in the US
because of the low taxes and then took or sent them "home".
Over the years I've referred to F connecters as NTSC connectors when someone
called the Belling-Lee ones PAL connectors, but no one got the joke. :-(
Geoff.
Stephen
Americans call a "PAL connector" is really strictly speaking a Belling Lee.
It sounds like "PAL connector has become everyday language in USA, just
like "Hoover" or "Xerox" whereas strictly speakign they are vacuum cleaner
and photocopier respectively.
Here in Great Britain, the F- connector is used for connecting satellite
dishes to the recievers or by the cable TV networks.
I persoanlly prefer F connector to Belling Lee as the latter can easily fall
out of the socket whereas F connectors dont.
Stephen.
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote in message
news:slrnirovu...@cable.mendelson.com...
Rich Grise
> On 4/30/2011 6:39 AM, Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>>
>> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>>
>> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>>
> although it took him 2 tries. It is an RCA plug, used for
> audio.
>
Yes, but the solid shell is probably confusing.
They're also used for demodulated plain ol' NTSC video, but
I can't speak at what they use in Rightpondia. ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
Paul
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
The UK version is mentioned here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug
"Belling-Lee connector or IEC 169-2 connector,
more often simply known as TV aerial plug"
A lot of my wiring here (Canada), is done with F series.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector
The RCA / Cinch connector is also a common
connector type on home electronics, being used
for audio and video. Compared to the Belling-Lee,
the central prong is longer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector
The antenna connector in my car, is like none
of those, so there is at least one other flavor,
and the prong on that one is even longer. I've
not succeeded in finding a match for it. (Antenna
rusted off car, so currently the car has no antenna.
I get an extra mile per gallon that way :-) )
Paul
Rich Grise
> "Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iph4j9$4at$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> They look like RCA But they are in fact imports used on Antenna
>>> Connections to Signal Amplifiers.
>>
>> It's the TV antennae cable plug being used in Hong Kong, which was ruled
>> by UK before 1997. It's not RCA, the pin is shorter.
>>
>> I wanna know the TECHNICAL name of that plug design.
>
No, the center conductor is too fat. It's an ordinary RCA plug, but
with the solid shell to impress the audiophools.
The push-on F connectors I have here have the slotted shell, but the center
conductor is about 22 or 24 AWG and there's a springy loop around the
shell leaves.
Hope This Helps!
Rich
mm
wrote:
>I can assure you that PAL refers to an analogue broadcast standard.
No one doubts that. It's also a DVD standard too iiuc.
> What the
>Americans call a "PAL connector" is really strictly speaking a Belling Lee.
I think it can be two things at the same time, and it's hard to be
just a Belling Lee when I for one had never heard of such a thing. I'm
sure that's true of many people who sell them in the US too.
>
>It sounds like "PAL connector has become everyday language in USA, just
>like "Hoover"
Hoover means vacuum cleaner in some other countries, but in the US
it's just another brand. Gerber means baby food in general some
places.
>or "Xerox" whereas strictly speakign they are vacuum cleaner
>and photocopier respectively.
Xerox does indeed mean photocopy here. I think a small part of my
jaunt in law school dealt with trademarks, but I've always thought the
rule was backwards from what it should be. If people use xerox as a
synonym for photocopy, that should strengthen the trademark and not
weaken it. Then the Xerox company, or the Scotch tape company
wouldn't have to waste their efforts defending their name, except in
advertising for another brand.
But when someone actually uses a Xerox machine or real Scotch tape,
making them call it Scotch brand tape or Xerox brand photocopying
seems silly.
And if someone on the news, for example, said the company released a
xerox of some document, just assume they used a real Xerox machine or
something living up to its standards.
Just my rant.
Jeff Liebermann
wrote:
>Thanks. I've got a dual tuner card from a thrift shop that has those connectors,
>so you've just helped me out too.
Y'er welcome. I had never heard of Belling-Lee connectors until some
friends arrived from UK with "universal" AM/FM/TV/SW contrivance that
did PAL, NTSC, and SECAM all in one box. I wanted to see how well it
worked, but when I tried to plug in a test cable, I couldn't find a
connector that would fit. The manual was useless. The local shopping
mall travel store was helpful. They allowed me to dig through their
collection of connectors, where I found one as part of a very
expensive adapter kit. A few photos and a dumb question in one of the
travel forums generated the necessary info. However, I didn't want to
wait for an adapter, so I made my own from some brass tubing and an F
connector.
--
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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
Phil Allison
"The Ghost in The Machine"
THE ONES IN THE PIX ARE BNC CONNECTORS,
** Wrong.
Phil Allison
"The Ghost in The Machine"
OOPS!!! ON SECOND VIEWING THE ONE IN THE PIX IS USING CLASSY RCA
PLUGS,
** Wrong again.
Michael A. Terrell
"Chris S." wrote:
>
> "Man-wai Chang" <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:iph4j9$4at$1...@dont-email.me...
> >> We may both be wrong..
> >> They look like RCA But they are in fact imports used on Antenna
> >> Connections to Signal Amplifiers.
> >
> > It's the TV antennae cable plug being used in Hong Kong, which was ruled
> > by UK before 1997. It's not RCA, the pin is shorter.
> >
> > I wanna know the TECHNICAL name of that plug design.
> >
>
> Isn't it just a push-on non threaded F Connector?
No. It is a European TV antenna connector. They weren't used for
anything in the US, except on equipment brought in by foreigners. Some
referred to it as a PAL connector in the US,
--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.
Michael A. Terrell
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 19:39:47 +0800, Man-wai Chang
> <toylet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>
>
> >What's the name of the plugs in USA?
> >It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> and RCA connectors for TV RF:
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector>
> However, not all the F connector plugs are threaded as in "quick
> connect" or "push on" connectors that simply slide over the threads.
The push on connectors were the 'G' series, and designed to be
matable with the 'F' series. Most places selling them are absolutely
clueless, like selling DE9 connectors as DB9. Mass marketing to, for
and by idiots. :(
> Adapters are available:
> <http://www.dealextreme.com/p/belling-lee-pal-tv-antenna-plug-to-f-cable-connectors-2-pack-18356>
If you want real fun, try to buy a 'HN' connector over the counter at
a wholesaler. ;-)
The Daring Dufas
> The Daring Dufas wrote:
>> I've also heard them called "British Naval Connectors".
>
> In England some people joke that it stands for "Brand New Connector" and
> the later TNC stands for "Terribly New Connector". :-)
>
> Geoff
>
I first wrote "Navel" but changed it when I figured no one might get the
joke. ^_^
TDD
Jeff Liebermann
<mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> The push on connectors were the 'G' series, and designed to be
>matable with the 'F' series.
Not exactly. The "G" series was contrived to provide a connector
suitable for passing up to 15A of current. The cable companies have
always powered line amps from DC on the cable. That was fine with
semi-rigid coax and compression connectors that could handle the
current. However, when the amps shrank in size, a newer smaller
connector was needed. That was the Type G connector.
<http://www.amphenolrf.com/products/typeg.asp?N=0&sid=4DBB51003571617F&>
>Most places selling them are absolutely
>clueless, like selling DE9 connectors as DB9. Mass marketing to, for
>and by idiots. :(
Well, lets see what Google can offer. Searching for DE9, I get
70,100,000 hits, while DB9 returns 8,830,000 hits. So about 12% are
clueless.
Actually, it should be DE9S or DE9P, but that's being picky.
> If you want real fun, try to buy a 'HN' connector over the counter at
>a wholesaler. ;-)
<http://www.amphenolrf.com/products/hn.asp?N=0&sid=4DBB510041D4E17F&>
Hi-V. I've never seen or used one. There are plenty of other obscure
connectors.
The RF industry is full of specialized connectors. There was one
connector found on many wireless cards where I couldn't find a mating
plug. It turned out that there wasn't a mating plug. It was a test
connector with a conical entry.
<http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/WG511.jpg>
Rich Grise
>>connector
>>
>>There are at least three analogue TV broadcast systems, PAL, (Phase
>>Alternate Line), NTSC (National Television Standards Committee) and SECAM
>>(a variant of PAL where the audio and colour is carried in a different
>>way)
>>
>>Belling Lee is a connector standard, nothing to do with PAL so its a
>>mistake on the website.
>
> And for that matter, BNC twist on, so why are they in this discussion
> at all (in other posts)? I just learned that B stands for bayonet.
I once had a salesman tell me it simply means "Bayonet Connector";
presumably the BN is BayoNet, as in TTY for TeleTYpe. :-)
Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise
Well, they looked like audiophool-grade RCAs to me; if not, then what
ARE they, or are you just having another tantrum?
Thanks,
Rich
Jasen Betts
>> We may both be wrong..
>> They look like RCA But they are in fact imports used on Antenna
>> Connections to Signal Amplifiers.
>
> It's the TV antennae cable plug being used in Hong Kong, which was ruled
> by UK before 1997. It's not RCA, the pin is shorter.
>
> I wanna know the TECHNICAL name of that plug design.
When not called "tv coaxial antenna plug" (or some variation thereof)
I've heard it called called "Belling-Lee" or "PAL" (neither of which
are technically accurate).
compared to F connectors it has the advantage of withstanding more
insertion cycles, but the disadvantage of poor impedance matching.
Wikipedia suggests it is standardised as "IEC 169-2"
--
⚂⚃ 100% natural
Jasen Betts
> Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>>
>>
>> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>>
>> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>>
>
> The UK version is mentioned here.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug
>
> "Belling-Lee connector or IEC 169-2 connector,
> more often simply known as TV aerial plug"
>
> A lot of my wiring here (Canada), is done with F series.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector
>
> The RCA / Cinch connector is also a common
> connector type on home electronics, being used
> for audio and video. Compared to the Belling-Lee,
> the central prong is longer.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector
> The antenna connector in my car, is like none
> of those, so there is at least one other flavor,
The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
doesn't seem to know it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_connector
--
⚂⚃ 100% natural
mm
>
>> The antenna connector in my car, is like none
>> of those, so there is at least one other flavor,
>
>The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
>no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
>doesn't seem to know it.
Motorola was the first or one of the first to make radios for motor
cars. Hence the name motor ola.
Phil Allison
"Jasen Betts" <ja...@xnet.co.nz>
** Kiwi sheep shagger alert !
>
> When not called "tv coaxial antenna plug" (or some variation thereof)
> I've heard it called called "Belling-Lee" or "PAL" (neither of which
> are technically accurate).
** The correct name for any thing, animal or person is that name by which it
is most commonly known.
Any other names are less correct.
Being technically accurate has nothing to do with names.
Or else, your correct name would be:
" tedious, PITA, sheep fucker and massive troll "
Get it ??
Betts you don't.
... Phil
Jasen Betts
>>
>> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S46D06/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1304163450&sr=8-10
>>
>>
>> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>>
>> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>>
>
> The UK version is mentioned here.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_aerial_plug
>
> "Belling-Lee connector or IEC 169-2 connector,
> more often simply known as TV aerial plug"
>
> A lot of my wiring here (Canada), is done with F series.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector
>
> The RCA / Cinch connector is also a common
> connector type on home electronics, being used
> for audio and video. Compared to the Belling-Lee,
> the central prong is longer.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector
> The antenna connector in my car, is like none
> of those, so there is at least one other flavor,
The car radio antenna plug is often called "Motorola"
no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
doesn't seem to know it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_connector
--
⚂⚃ 100% natural
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
> no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> doesn't seem to know it.
Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
Probably at one time RCA had a patent on its connector and Motorola
had a patent on theirs.
It wasn't until the second world war that the concept of standarization
across manufacturers was pushed. Companies made their own parts, connectors,
etc, and tried to prevent competion.
Phil Allison
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson"
> The Daring Dufas wrote:
>> I've also heard them called "British Naval Connectors".
>
> In England some people joke that it stands for "Brand New Connector" and
> the later TNC stands for "Terribly New Connector". :-)
** I was once told it stood for " Bloody Nice Connector " .......
.... Phil
Robert Green
<stuff snipped>
> It wasn't until the second world war that the concept of standarization
> across manufacturers was pushed. Companies made their own parts,
connectors,
> etc, and tried to prevent competion.
It seems that the manufacturers of anything battery-powered haven't gotten
the message. I have two shelves full of nearly identical batteries and
nearly identical chargers that are totally incompatible.
--
Bobby G.
Geoffrey S. Mendelson
> It seems that the manufacturers of anything battery-powered haven't gotten
> the message. I have two shelves full of nearly identical batteries and
> nearly identical chargers that are totally incompatible.
While I personally think the world would be a better place if everyone
standardized on 1.2 volt AA batteries (preferably NiMH at the moment) it's
a loosing battle.
You would figure that after the battery disaster with the original iPod
Apple would have done something better but it seems that their customers
prefer internal batteries that need to be replace by a technician or the
entire device recycled.
Come to think of it, every pocket music or video player I have ever seen
except for the first, a 256meg USB stick, had a "permanent" battery.
Klay_Anderson
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
>
The connectors in the photo are "press-on F" connectors. Cheap to
make, they simply slide on the chassis threaded F. They are horrible
and cause a lot of issues as they do not allow proper and tight
sheilding.
e-ya later!
Klay Anderson's iPhone 4/iOS4.3.2
Try FaceTime!
William Sommerwerck
news:2404ffd8-0270-4b00...@k27g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> The connectors in the photo are "press-on F" connectors.
> Cheap to make, they simply slide on the chassis threaded F.
> They are horrible and cause a lot of issues as they do not
> allow proper and tight sheilding.
I don't think that's correct. An F connector normally uses the center
conductor of the cable -- a wire -- as the center connection -- not an
RCA-like plug.
The press-on F connectors I've seen use a slotted jacket that usually fits
snugly and rarely causes problems.
Man-wai Chang
> make, they simply slide on the chassis threaded F. They are horrible
> and cause a lot of issues as they do not allow proper and tight
> sheilding.
Look at the "shell" carefully: no screw... :)
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spamtrap1888
> Jasen Betts wrote:
> > The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
> > no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> > doesn't seem to know it.
>
> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
>
Or the "GR" plug on General Radio equipment. People my age fairly
universally called it the "double banana" plug.
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
wrote:
The "GR" connector is *not* a "double banana". The GR connector is a
hermaphroditic connector about an inch in diameter.
Some GR to BNC in the first pic and a GR 'T's in the second and third:
spamtrap1888
wrote:
> On Sun, 1 May 2011 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com>
I mean the 1924 GR plug, not some modern 1960s RF connector.
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
wrote:
>On May 1, 8:35 am, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz>
'60s? <guffaw>
cl...@snyder.on.ca
<g...@mendelson.com> wrote:
>Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 4/30/2011 10:16 PM, Stephen wrote:
>>> All of you are all wrong.. The plugs that are on the white cable in the
>>> Weblink is in fact known as Belling Lee. They are used all over Great
>>> Britain for both FM and UHF TV The ones in the pic are the male version of
>>> Belling Lee.
>>
>> I can't find a BNC female to Belling Lee adaptor in Amazon US...
>>
>> In fact Amazon US doesn't have any electronics item with "Belling Lee"
>> in its specification.
>
>In the US they are called PAL connectors.
>
>http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103468
>
>Geoff.
Officially, on both sides of the pond, they are referred to as IEC
169-2, or IEC 60169-2 connectors, and they are CRAP for TV usage as
they are not a proper match to 75 ohm cable - actually closer to 50
ohm, and cause reflections and ghosting of the signal
The IEC 169-24, or "F" connector is superior for TV use.
Paul
>
> The car radio antenna plug is often called "Motorola"
> no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> doesn't seem to know it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_connector
>
I didn't realize it was that common.
Paul
zek
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> @~@ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
> / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
> /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.38.4
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The name of the plug is, how an RCA phonograph plug should have been
made.
Greg
Rich Grise
>
> " tedious, PITA, sheep fucker and massive troll "
Oh, dear, Phil's broken again.
Rich Grise
> On Apr 30, 5:39 am, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>>
>> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> The connectors in the photo are "press-on F" connectors.
Not the ones I saw in the picture. The center pin is WAY too fat
for an F. They're simply audiophool-style RCA connectors with a solid
shell that looks "kewl".
Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise
>> Cheap to make, they simply slide on the chassis threaded F.
>> They are horrible and cause a lot of issues as they do not
>> allow proper and tight sheilding.
>
> I don't think that's correct. An F connector normally uses the center
> conductor of the cable -- a wire -- as the center connection -- not an
> RCA-like plug.
>
> The press-on F connectors I've seen use a slotted jacket that usually fits
> snugly and rarely causes problems.
And are good for about ten or twenty insertions before they get loose.
Cheers!
Rich
Rich Grise
> Jasen Betts wrote:
>> The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
>> no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
>> doesn't seem to know it.
>
> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
>
> Probably at one time RCA had a patent on its connector and Motorola
> had a patent on theirs.
>
> It wasn't until the second world war that the concept of standarization
> across manufacturers was pushed. Companies made their own parts,
> connectors, etc, and tried to prevent competion.
>
http://shop.vetcosurplus.com/catalog/popup_image.php?pID=8818
Hope This Helps!
Rich
Rich Grise
>
> While I personally think the world would be a better place if everyone
> standardized on 1.2 volt AA batteries (preferably NiMH at the moment) it's
> a loosing battle.
I'll never ever waste my money on NiMH batteries again. They're the
crappiest excuse for batteries I've ever encountered. After about six
months of use, and charge/use cycles, their useful life (per charge)
deteriorates to a matter of seconds.
Anyone who spends money on NiMHs, even with a "smart" charger, is an
idiot.
And you misspelled "losing."
Hope This Helps!
Rich
Rich Grise
>
> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
THERE IS NO APOSTROPHE IN THE POSSESSIVE ITS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please clue up.
Rich Grise, Self-Appointed Chief,
Internet Apostrophe Police
Rich Grise
>
> The car radio antenna plug is often called "Motorola"
> no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> doesn't seem to know it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_connector
>
http://shop.vetcosurplus.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8818
close-up:
Michael A. Terrell
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:53:28 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
> <mike.t...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > The push on connectors were the 'G' series, and designed to be
> >matable with the 'F' series.
>
> Not exactly. The "G" series was contrived to provide a connector
> suitable for passing up to 15A of current. The cable companies have
> always powered line amps from DC on the cable. That was fine with
> semi-rigid coax and compression connectors that could handle the
> current. However, when the amps shrank in size, a newer smaller
> connector was needed. That was the Type G connector.
> <http://www.amphenolrf.com/products/typeg.asp?N=0&sid=4DBB51003571617F&>
The 'G' connector was mostly used on modules in CATV line amps and
MATV headend modules to plug in band splitters, single channel strip
amplifiers or other items. They had to make a very good connection, and
there was no room to use something like a BNC connector. Not only did
the connectors have to pass power to amplifier modules, they provided
all the mechanical mounting for the modules. The final requirement was
no RF leakage, even though there were no threads.
> >Most places selling them are absolutely clueless, like selling DE9
> > Mass marketing to, for and by idiots. :(
>
> Well, lets see what Google can offer. Searching for DE9, I get
> 70,100,000 hits, while DB9 returns 8,830,000 hits. So about 12% are
> clueless.
Do a search for "Small Computer Serial Interface" for another laugh.
It gives over 70K hits but a few years ago it was over a half million,
including the website of a college in their computer course. I emailed
them to point out the bad information and was told that "That is an old
page, and we don't update those."
> Actually, it should be DE9S or DE9P, but that's being picky.
It describes the shell size and number of possible contacts. The S or
P tells which half. It would be rare to find someone who only carries
one half, wouldn't it? :)
> > If you want real fun, try to buy a 'HN' connector over the counter at
> >a wholesaler. ;-)
>
> <http://www.amphenolrf.com/products/hn.asp?N=0&sid=4DBB510041D4E17F&>
> Hi-V. I've never seen or used one. There are plenty of other obscure
> connectors.
RCA used them in their TV transmitters. I had a couple new, Amphenol
still in the bags I picked up surplus when I worked in Broadcasting.
> The RF industry is full of specialized connectors. There was one
> connector found on many wireless cards where I couldn't find a mating
> plug. It turned out that there wasn't a mating plug. It was a test
> connector with a conical entry.
> <http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/WG511.jpg>
>
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> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.
The Ghost in The Machine
wrote:
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
> --
> You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
> Teflon coated.
WE DONT CARE FOR YOUR INPUT.
CONTROL YOUR MADKED ID TROLLING, YOU TWO FACED FREAK.
GO ATTEND YOUR ANTI-GOVERNMENT WEBPAGE AND LEAVE US ALONE.
NOTE THAT YOUR NAME HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN A POLICE REPORT.
IT WOULD SERVE YOUR BEST INTEREST TO APPLY YOUR COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE TO
ENDING THE HARASSMENT CAMPAIGN YOU STARTED AGAINST MR. QUIJANO OR BE
ENJOINED IN A CRIMINAL LAWSUIT WITH THE KNOWN SUSPECTED CYBER-STALKING
INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTS.
TGITM
Michael A. Terrell
"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" wrote:
>
> Jasen Betts wrote:
> > The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
> > no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
> > doesn't seem to know it.
>
> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
No, It was developed by Galvin manufacturing, who called their first
car radio the 'Motorola'. Then they changed the company's name to
Motorola.
> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
How so? The Motorola plug has an exposed center conductor, and
spring contacts on the body to hold it in the jack.
The RCA jack was developed for radios to add a Phono input to sell
turntables instead of the existing acoustic phonos. The connector has a
shorter center pin, and the outer contact was split ever 90 degrees to
allow it to be forced over the jack. Most early phono connectors I saw
wouldn't fit inside a Motorola jack, and the center contact was too
short to reach the center of a Motorola jack. Also, the braid of the
shielded cable was soldered to the shell of the Phono connector, but the
Motorola plugs were crimped to the shield of the RG-62, 93 ohm coax.
Some OEMs didn't even solder the center pin. Instead, they shoved a
piece of rubber into it, to hold the wire to the side.
<http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/About_Motorola/History/Timeline>
> Probably at one time RCA had a patent on its connector and Motorola
> had a patent on theirs.
Of course they did. At one time a 'Factory radio' for a Ford vehicle
could be a Bendix, a Motorola, or a Philco. General Motors radios were
built by Delco, who built home radios at one time. The smaller car
companies bought customized radios from various manufacturers with the
required nosepiece, shaft spacings and lengths to fit that car.
> It wasn't until the second world war that the concept of standarization
> across manufacturers was pushed. Companies made their own parts, connectors,
> etc, and tried to prevent competion.
Not true. A lot of early US radios used the same connectors for
batteries. Tube families all used the same sockets. Binding Posts,
Phone Tip Jacks, and Banana Jacks were very common to connect headphone
or speakers. The common terminal strips were used as well.
Most of the military connectors developed for W.W.II were obsolete
soon after the war ended, and the next generation of Military
electronics was developed. They are the hardest thing to find when you
collect surplus military electronics.
Michael A. Terrell
zek wrote:
>
> On Apr 30, 7:39¬ am, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
> >
> > What's the name of the plugs in USA?
> >
> > It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
> >
> > --
> > ¬ ¬ @~@ ¬ Might, Courage, Vision, SINCERITY.
> > ¬ / v \ ¬ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
> > /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) ¬ Linux 2.6.38.4
> > ¬ ¬ ^ ^ ¬ 19:36:01 up 5 days 23:37 1 user load average:1.09 1.05 1.05
>
> The name of the plug is, how an RCA phonograph plug should have been
> made.
YAWn.............................................
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You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aidô on it, because it's
Teflon coated.
The Ghost in The Machine
wrote:
> zek wrote:
>
> > On Apr 30, 7:39Â am, Man-wai Chang <toylet.toy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
> > > What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> > > It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> > > --
> > > Â / v \ Â Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you!
> > > /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Â Linux 2.6.38.4
> > > Â Â ^ ^ Â 19:36:01 up 5 days 23:37 1 user load average:1.09 1.05 1.05
> > > ä¸ å€Ÿè²¸! ä¸ è© é¨™! ä¸ æ ´äº¤! ä¸ æ‰“äº¤! ä¸ æ‰“åŠ«! ä¸ è‡ªæ®º! è«‹è€ƒæ…®ç¶œæ ´ (CSSA):http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
>
> > The name of the plug is, how an RCA phonograph plug should have been
> > made.
>
> YAWn.............................................
>
> --
> Teflon coated.
GROW UP AND GET OUT OF HERE....GO YAWN UP SOME OTHER GROUP,
"ENGINEER".
YOUR ENTIRE PATHETIC LIFE MUST BE A YAWN..IF YOU DID ANYTHING GOOD
WITH IT YOUR MISERABLE OLD LIFE WOULDN'T BE SO BORING....TAKE MY
ADVICE AND KILL THE KRWACKHEAD FOOL.
PATECUM
TGITM
spamtrap1888
wrote:
>
> The RCA jack was developed for radios to add a Phono input to sell
> turntables instead of the existing acoustic phonos.
A friend's mother has an RCA radio with a Television jack. Apparently
it was "television ready" in that you could plug your speakerless,
audio-amplifier-free RCA television into it.
The problem with both the RCA plug and the Motorola plug, compared to
other coaxial plugs, is that the hot lead makes contact before the
ground does.
John Fields
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>On Sun, 1 May 2011 08:00:41 -0700 (PDT), spamtrap1888 <spamtr...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On May 1, 4:29 am, "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote:
>>> Jasen Betts wrote:
>>> > The car radio antenna plug if often called "Motorola"
>>> > no doubt it has a technical name too, but Wikipedia
>>> > doesn't seem to know it.
>>>
>>> Why can't Motorola be it's proper name? It was "invented" by Motorola.
>>> It's a longer version of the the RCA connector, "invented" by RCA.
>>>
>>
>>Or the "GR" plug on General Radio equipment. People my age fairly
>>universally called it the "double banana" plug.
>
>The "GR" connector is *not* a "double banana". The GR connector is a
>hermaphroditic connector about an inch in diameter.
---
The "GR" connector spamtrap 1888 was talking about is, in fact, a
double banana plug/jack with the contacts on 0.75" centers.
The connector you're talking about, the GR874 series, is a
hermaphroditic connector intended for RF use.
http://www.ietlabs.com/pdf/Datasheets/874_9.pdf
--
JF
John Fields
wrote:
>The name of the plug is, how an RCA phonograph plug should have been
>made.
>
>Greg
---
Why?
--
JF
John Fields
<prote...@gmail.com> wrote:
>WE DONT CARE FOR YOUR INPUT.
---
"We"???
What group of loons has enjoined you as their spokesman?
---
>CONTROL YOUR MADKED ID TROLLING, YOU TWO FACED FREAK.
>GO ATTEND YOUR ANTI-GOVERNMENT WEBPAGE AND LEAVE US ALONE.
---
"Us"???
What group of loons has enjoined you as their spokesman?
---
>NOTE THAT YOUR NAME HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN A POLICE REPORT.
---
As the _issuer_ of a complaint, more than likely and, judging from
your reply, the complaint was issued against _you_.
---
>IT WOULD SERVE YOUR BEST INTEREST TO APPLY YOUR COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE TO
>ENDING THE HARASSMENT CAMPAIGN YOU STARTED AGAINST MR. QUIJANO OR BE
>ENJOINED IN A CRIMINAL LAWSUIT WITH THE KNOWN SUSPECTED CYBER-STALKING
>INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTS.
>
>TGITM
---
Hollow threats, ergo you shout.
If you had a case, in the real world, you would have already taken it
to court and would have been willing to have it adjudicated by
disinterested parties.
Since you have not and, instead, prefer to have it tried here, you've
already lost because of your demeanor.
--
JF
JIMMIE
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cable-Tex-Coaxial-Aerial-Cable-White/dp/B003S...
>
> What's the name of the plugs in USA?
>
> It seems that USA televisions only use F Type connectors.
>
> --
> /( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.38.4
> ^ ^ 19:36:01 up 5 days 23:37 1 user load average: 1.09 1.05 1.05
> 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA):http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa
Dont know what they are called but Radio Shack has the adapters, just
bought one. Also for what it is worth the male plugs for those cables
will fit a stard F type socket. I thought they were just quick connect
F connectors and had bee using them as such until I bought a stereo
for my daughter that HAD to have one.
Jimmie
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
<jfi...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 1 May 2011 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost in The Machine
><prote...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>WE DONT CARE FOR YOUR INPUT.
>
>---
>"We"???
>
>What group of loons has enjoined you as their spokesman?
His multiple personalities (dumb computer, more stupid ghost, Roy Queerjano,
and others).
>---
>
>>CONTROL YOUR MADKED ID TROLLING, YOU TWO FACED FREAK.
>>GO ATTEND YOUR ANTI-GOVERNMENT WEBPAGE AND LEAVE US ALONE.
>
>---
>"Us"???
>
>What group of loons has enjoined you as their spokesman?
>---
>
>>NOTE THAT YOUR NAME HAS BEEN MENTIONED IN A POLICE REPORT.
>
>---
>As the _issuer_ of a complaint, more than likely and, judging from
>your reply, the complaint was issued against _you_.
>---
>
>>IT WOULD SERVE YOUR BEST INTEREST TO APPLY YOUR COMPUTER KNOWLEDGE TO
>>ENDING THE HARASSMENT CAMPAIGN YOU STARTED AGAINST MR. QUIJANO OR BE
>>ENJOINED IN A CRIMINAL LAWSUIT WITH THE KNOWN SUSPECTED CYBER-STALKING
>>INDIVIDUALS ACCOUNTS.
>>
>>TGITM
>
>---
>Hollow threats, ergo you shout.
>
>If you had a case, in the real world, you would have already taken it
>to court and would have been willing to have it adjudicated by
>disinterested parties.
>
>Since you have not and, instead, prefer to have it tried here, you've
>already lost because of your demeanor.
He's just an unemployed sparky from Brookyln, living in mommy's basement.
The Ghost in The Machine
wrote:
> On Sun, 01 May 2011 17:50:07 -0500, John Fields
>
EAT FECES, I READ IT CLEARS THE ILL EFFECT OF CRACK COCAINE IN YOU
BRAIN.
YOU FOOL...I AM NOT ROY QUINTANO YOU QUEER ASS FOOL....
BUT HE IS AN ESTEEM US CITIZEN...WE'RE GOING TO HUNT YOU DOWN AND
BRING YOY TO JUSTICE, LIKE DONT TO BIN LADEN....
YOU FAGGOTY FUCK FREAK...LEAVE ROY OUT OF THIS YOU TERRORIST
BASTARD !!!
YOUR FATE IS WRITTEN IN THE SAND OF THE DESSERT AND THE CONCRETE OF
THE CITY.
PATECUM
TGITM
The Ghost in The Machine
THEY ARE CALLED FUCKIT CONNECTORS.......
AS IN "FUCKIT" IT IS NOT IMPORATANT.
TGITM
The Ghost in The Machine
> On Sun, 1 May 2011 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost in The Machine
>
GET A GRIP FIELDS HE IS IN HIDING....THEY NEED TO ID AND APPREHEND HIS
CYBERSTALKING FOOLISH ASS BEFORE THEY CAN PROSECUTE HIM...HOPEFULLY
IT'LL GO WRONG AND WE'LL SEE HIS DEAD BODY ON DISPLAY SOMEWHERE....
PATECUM
TGITM
Michael A. Terrell
John Fields wrote:
>
> On Sun, 1 May 2011 14:18:38 -0700 (PDT), The Ghost in The Machine
> <prote...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >WE DONT CARE FOR YOUR INPUT.
>
> ---
> "We"???
>
> What group of loons has enjoined you as their spokesman?
Roy and all his dirty, crack smoking sock puppets:
Roy J Quijano
415 E 151st St
Bronx, NY 10455
(718) 292-1943
He's the reason for my current sigfile.
Michael A. Terrell
Hopefully, it'll be bulldozed with the other falling down dumps in
the area.
Michael A. Terrell
That's because they were never intended to be plugged in to equipment
under power, due to leakage currents in the AC powered equipment. There
is a Switchcraft version of the Phono/RCA that has a built in switch to
be used hot. It can be wired to short out the connector, until the plug
is inserted.
Explain want difference it would make on a car radio? that is the
only application it was designed for.