Analog - Digital TV question

[tub...@myshop.com]

I have an old Realistic (Radio Shack) "Stereo TV Receiver". It's like a
radio, designed to receive the audio from tv stations. I've used it as
an audio amplifier for one of my computers. But I just wanted to see if
it actually received TV audio. I dont have much for an antenna, just a
rabbit ears. So I am not getting anything, and where I live getting any
tv signal is rare.

However, I'm wondering if it's possible to get anything. This was made
for analog tv. It has 3 buttons to select VHF low, VHF high, and UHF. I
know all the digital stations now use UHF.

With the proper antenna, is it possible to get the digital signal on
UHF, or can that only be gotten using a DTV converter? This has me
puzzled....

* I noticed that at the very end of the VHF low, near Channel 6, I do
get a very weak signal of some sort. I suspect I'm picking up a little
FM radio, but it's too weak to really hear clearly.

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 4/12/19 11:23 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
> I have an old Realistic (Radio Shack) "Stereo TV Receiver".

You been under a rock for the past 10 years?
They stopped analog TV broadcasting in 2009.



--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com

[Lucifer]

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 00:10:45 -0500, Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net>
wrote:

>On 4/12/19 11:23 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>> I have an old Realistic (Radio Shack) "Stereo TV Receiver".
>
>You been under a rock for the past 10 years?
>They stopped analog TV broadcasting in 2009.

Are you under a rock? The 4th of December 2019 is in the future.

[amdx]

Fox used just a tiny bit of poet license, you are just being evil and
anally retentive.

Mikek

[danny burstein]

In <82p2be17tnnl503v7...@4ax.com> tub...@myshop.com writes:

>* I noticed that at the very end of the VHF low, near Channel 6, I do
>get a very weak signal of some sort. I suspect I'm picking up a little
>FM radio, but it's too weak to really hear clearly.

Your radio will NOT work with any of the digital stations,
which is 99.999 or so percent of them.

However, there are a number of exceptions, namely
some low power stations that operated on "channel 6"
before the cutover, and remained in operation.

They're actually exploiting a loophole and are really
using that channel, NOT for the tv image, but because
the audio portion of channel 6 is at 87.7 Mhz.

That frequency is right at the edge of the FM
broadcast band. The older, "dial" type, radios
generally have enough slippage, so to speak, to
be able to pick them up. However, many of the
digital display/control ones have a "hard cut"
and won't go that low.

Typical example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WNYZ-LP


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[Fox's Mercantile]

Heh, where's the "like" button?

[tub...@myshop.com]

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 00:10:45 -0500, Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net>
wrote:

>On 4/12/19 11:23 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>> I have an old Realistic (Radio Shack) "Stereo TV Receiver".
>
>You been under a rock for the past 10 years?
>They stopped analog TV broadcasting in 2009.

Yes, Im aware of that, but dont answer my question. Can the audio
portion be received by my receiver or not?

[Fox's Mercantile]

Doesn't, but the answer is no.

[Michael Terrell]

There is no 'Audio Portion', there is a data stream containing both the video and one or more audio channels, and there may be one or more sub channels per the old bandwidth. Those 'stereo receivers' had a coil to pick up the horizontal sweep, which was used to separate the analog audio signal into two channels like Stereo FM, but the pilot frequency was 15.734KH instead of 19KHz. You not only don't have the analog audio, you can't recover the non existent NTSC horizontal signal. Other than a very few Low Power stations or translators, the thing is useless.

Ignore Jeff. He's an angry Liberal who has never worked at a TV station as an Engineer.

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 4/13/19 5:44 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
> Ignore Jeff. He's an angry Liberal who has never worked at a TV station as an Engineer.

I'd rather be an angry liberal than an ignorant Trump supporter.

[Michael Terrell]

On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 6:59:07 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
> On 4/13/19 5:44 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
> > Ignore Jeff. He's an angry Liberal who has never worked at a TV station as an Engineer.
>
> I'd rather be an angry liberal than an ignorant Trump supporter.

We all know that you supported Hillary and her slimy bucket of despicables.

It's sad, really. Those Anti Psychotic drugs were really helping you, before Obamacare took them away from you. I do hope that you do see the light some day. All of that raw, inflamed hatred is bad for your health.

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 4/13/19 6:16 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
> We all know that you supported Hillary and her slimy bucket of despicables.

I see you love the "fear and hatred" brand of Koolaid the GOP has been
selling for the past 40 years.

>
> It's sad, really. Those Anti Psychotic drugs were really helping you, before Obamacare took them away from you. I do hope that you do see the light some day. All of that raw, inflamed hatred is bad for your health.

You're a real prize, the best you can do is make up shit and resort to
ad hominem attacks?

You basically went in the toilet when a black man was elected president.
You've only gotten worse.

Keep it up with your diatribes, it only makes you look stupid.

[Michael Terrell]

On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 10:37:04 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
> On 4/13/19 6:16 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
> > We all know that you supported Hillary and her slimy bucket of despicables.
>
> I see you love the "fear and hatred" brand of Koolaid the GOP has been
> selling for the past 40 years.

Yawn. That's right out of the Liberal's rulebook 'Repeat a lie until it becomes the truth'.

> > It's sad, really. Those Anti Psychotic drugs were really helping you, before Obamacare took them away from you. I do hope that you do see the light some day. All of that raw, inflamed hatred is bad for your health.
>
> You're a real prize, the best you can do is make up shit and resort to
> ad hominem attacks?

I was only following your silly lead.

> You basically went in the toilet when a black man was elected president.
> You've only gotten worse.

Is that the best lie that you can come up with? He is only partly black, and he was never much of a man. Just the kind that you worship.

> Keep it up with your diatribes, it only makes you look stupid.

Continuing to post under the name of a business that you ran into the ground years ago makes you look like a super genius?

I really don't care what you think. Even though I wasn't on any of the newsgroups, I sent emails to people with information during that time. That included you, although I knew that you would never acknowledge any of them. One was where to find help with a HP scope. I won't waste any more time with you. Just keep channeling Skippy.

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 4/14/19 12:06 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
[ snip ]
More right wing echo chamber comments.

blah blah blah

I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

[OGG]

A lot you all know.

In the L.A. area channel 6 is an over the air Analog Channel !
It is the only one but it is there.

We also have a plethora of digital channels with very little useful
content unless you like to watch commercials.

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 4/14/19 9:49 AM, OGG wrote:
> In the L.A. area channel 6 is an over the air Analog Channel !
> It is the only one but it is there.

I moved to Texas in September of 2009.
So I'm no longer focused on what happens in LA.

[Michael Terrell]

Call letters? The only Ch6 that I see listed for that area is KSFV-CD, a LPTV station with a 360 watt signal that is transmitted on UHF Channel 22. I ran more power than that to cover the Ft. Greely Army base in the '70s. I had Ch8, and 650 Watts on a 130' tower on the WW-II part of the base.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Los_Angeles_television_stations

[mako...@yahoo.com]

>
> Yes, Im aware of that, but dont answer my question. Can the audio
> portion be received by my receiver or not?

OP

NO your analog receiver cannot receive the audio portion of a digital TV transmission.

m

[tub...@myshop.com]

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
<terrell....@gmail.com> wrote:

>the thing is useless.

It still works well as an audio amp for computer sound, using the AUX
input. Sounds a lot better than those so called (crap) "amplified
computer speakers".

[tub...@myshop.com]

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:36:56 -0500, Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net>
wrote:

>You're a real prize, the best you can do is make up shit and resort to
>ad hominem attacks?
>
>You basically went in the toilet when a black man was elected president.
>You've only gotten worse.
>
>Keep it up with your diatribes, it only makes you look stupid.

Good grief....

Fucking politics...... Not worth discussing since ALL politicians are
crooked liars. Dont matter what party they support.

There are only two suitable candidates. Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck.
Although I think my dog would do a better job than any president we've
had in the last half century. He belongs to the K9 party. VOTE FOR HIM!

[amdx]

Michael, it's nice to see you back around these parts, but this is no
way to act, Jeff was helpful, why such an attack. It is generally the
libs that do all the attacking. Why do you need to act the same. They
are wrong we just need to gently teach them to do better. When they know
better they will do better.
Jeff, have seen anything that Trump has done as president that you
like. I'll give you some help, The economy, Rocket Man, cutting taxes on
average $1,400 per household, rolling back regulations,
and a few from a liberal website.

►Move the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

►Pull the United States out of the Iranian nuclear deal.

►Stand up to NATO countries for not ponying up enough money to cover the
organization’s expenses and their own defense costs.

►Take on the news media and not back down, exposing bias and
agenda-driven journalism intended to run him out of office.

►Put an intense focus on immigration, the importance of border security
and the cost of illegal immigration, including U.S. citizens killed by
the undocumented.

►Target the ruthless Salvadoran street gang MS-13.


►Begin a dialogue with North Korea about ending its nuclear weapons
program.

OK, I got carried away, but do you agree with any of these accomplishments.

Mikek

[Michael Terrell]

This has nothing to do with your original question, it is trolling.

[Michael Terrell]

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 8:38:50 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:
> On 4/14/2019 12:06 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
> > On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 10:37:04 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
> >> On 4/13/19 6:16 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
> >>> We all know that you supported Hillary and her slimy bucket of despicables.
> >>
> >> I see you love the "fear and hatred" brand of Koolaid the GOP has been
> >> selling for the past 40 years.
> >
> > Yawn. That's right out of the Liberal's rulebook 'Repeat a lie until it becomes the truth'.
> >
> >>> It's sad, really. Those Anti Psychotic drugs were really helping you, before Obamacare took them away from you. I do hope that you do see the light some day. All of that raw, inflamed hatred is bad for your health.
> >>
> >> You're a real prize, the best you can do is make up shit and resort to
> >> ad hominem attacks?
> >
> > I was only following your silly lead.
> >
> >> You basically went in the toilet when a black man was elected president.
> >> You've only gotten worse.
> >
> > Is that the best lie that you can come up with? He is only partly black, and he was never much of a man. Just the kind that you worship.
> >
> >> Keep it up with your diatribes, it only makes you look stupid.
> >
> > Continuing to post under the name of a business that you ran into the ground years ago makes you look like a super genius?
> >
> > I really don't care what you think. Even though I wasn't on any of the newsgroups, I sent emails to people with information during that time. That included you, although I knew that you would never acknowledge any of them. One was where to find help with a HP scope. I won't waste any more time with you. Just keep channeling Skippy.
> >
>
> Michael, it's nice to see you back around these parts, but this is no
> way to act, Jeff was helpful, why such an attack. It is generally the
> libs that do all the attacking. Why do you need to act the same. They
> are wrong we just need to gently teach them to do better. When they know
> better they will do better.

I received a lot of abuse from him in 2016, and I am tired of being called stupid by him, just because I wouldn't vote for his choice.

I will no longer bother to read or reply to him.

I am reading messages in Seamonkey from a paid Usenet account that will not let me post messages, so I can filter out the trolls there. I have to post from Google Groups, so I don't know how often I will bother with Usenet.

[amdx]

Not all amplified computer speakers are crap, I have a set made by
Altec Lansing that consists of a sub woofer and two satellite speakers,
that does a fine job.

Mikek

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 4/15/19 7:19 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
> Fucking politics...... Not worth discussing since ALL politicians are
> crooked liars. Dont matter what party they support.

Which just goes to show you how ignorant you are.

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 4/15/19 7:38 PM, amdx wrote:
> OK, I got carried away, but do you agree with any of these accomplishments.
>
>                           Mikek

None of them.

[Paul Drahn]

But there are still low power analog TV stations still on the air, or
were on the air. One here in Central Oregon. All religious broadcasting.

Paul

[Fox's Mercantile]

On 4/14/19 12:06 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
> Continuing to post under the name of a business that
> you ran into the ground years ago makes you look like
> a super genius?

Uh huh, another one of your fantasies.
Fox's Mercantile is alive and well in Ranger Texas.

[Michael Terrell]

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 10:58:45 PM UTC-4, Paul Drahn wrote:
>
> But there are still low power analog TV stations still on the air, or
> were on the air. One here in Central Oregon. All religious broadcasting.

Do they transmit in stereo? Most LPTV stations operate on a shoestring, and adding the extra equipment for stereo wasn't cheap. The ones that I've seen recorded programs from Satellite, to video tape or a hard drive for later playback. What coverage are do they have with under 500W, and typically a tower under 100'?

The only station I worked at that was BTSC was a 5 MW EIRP
site with a 1700' tower that covered about 1/3 of Florida and occasionally received reports of being picked up in Texas during high sunspot cycles.

I have already stated that a few LPTV stations still exist, but many became sub channels after the conversion to digital.

[tub...@myshop.com]

Altec Lansing is some of the tops in electronics. I have one of their
commercial power amps.

But I imagine you paid dearly for those speakers.

I have some very nice bookshelf speakers that I use with this tv
receiver box. Before that, I had a small radio receiver I used for an
amp, but that goofy thing would turn itself on and off. Being built with
ICs, I just tossed it. Working on IC stuff is not my cup of tea.

Its easier to just watch for receivers at rummage sales and Goodwill.

My "real" stereo is 1200 watts, but for using my bedroom computer, all I
need is 10 watts. Not to mention that I download videos. The sound on
them is so varied that I'd blow my ears out on the big stereo.

[tub...@myshop.com]

Yep, I pretty much know that now. I'm tempted to retune it to see how
far I can get ch6 into the FM band. But I got plenty of FM radios so why
bother....

[Lucifer]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell

<terrell....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 8:19:27 PM UTC-4, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
>> <terrell....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >the thing is useless.
>>
>> It still works well as an audio amp for computer sound, using the AUX
>> input. Sounds a lot better than those so called (crap) "amplified
>> computer speakers".
>
>This has nothing to do with your original question, it is trolling.

When I worked as a telephone exchange tech I listened to a
radio I put together from bits found in a rubbish bin.
I could listen to AM radio and VHF TV sound and it ran off
the 50 volts from the rack battery jack.

[Lucifer]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:48:37 -0500, amdx <noj...@knology.net> wrote:

I had something similar and it was great. I put the satellite speakers
either side of the monitor and the stereo effect was fantastic.
I used it with my VCR which had a stereo decoder.

> Mikek

[Lucifer]

Your current president trumps them all.

[Lucifer]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:11:51 -0500, Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net>
wrote:

>On 4/15/19 7:19 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>> Fucking politics...... Not worth discussing since ALL politicians are
>> crooked liars. Dont matter what party they support.
>
>Which just goes to show you how ignorant you are.

I'd have to say you are ignorant. There is no 15th month.

[Clifford Heath]

On 16/4/19 2:50 pm, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:48:37 -0500, amdx <noj...@knology.net> wrote:
>> Not all amplified computer speakers are crap, I have a set made by
>> Altec Lansing that consists of a sub woofer and two satellite speakers,
>> that does a fine job.

> Altec Lansing is some of the tops in electronics.

They used to be where you come from (the 1970s). In the 1990s they also
made mass-market computer speakers, which do sound pretty good, but are
no comparison to their audiophile stuff. I have a revamped pair of their
"Eight" speakers, with the piezo and mid drivers replaced by modern
Kevlar units, and they sound fantastic.

> But I imagine you paid dearly for those speakers.

I bought three sets of their computer speakers for the family, and still
use one. I recall them being about $AU120 per set. They made even
bigger, better ones too, my son bought a set, internally multi-amp'ed.

Clifford Heath.

[Lucifer]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 19:38:46 -0500, amdx <noj...@knology.net> wrote:

>On 14/4/2019 12:06 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
>> On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 10:37:04 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:

>?Move the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem.

I say take off and nuke Israel from orbit.

>?Pull the United States out of the Iranian nuclear deal.
>
>?Stand up to NATO countries for not ponying up enough money to cover the

>organization’s expenses and their own defense costs.
>

>?Take on the news media and not back down, exposing bias and

>agenda-driven journalism intended to run him out of office.
>

>?Put an intense focus on immigration, the importance of border security

>and the cost of illegal immigration, including U.S. citizens killed by
>the undocumented.
>

>?Target the ruthless Salvadoran street gang MS-13.
>
>
>?Begin a dialogue with North Korea about ending its nuclear weapons

>program.
>
>OK, I got carried away, but do you agree with any of these accomplishments.

I'm glad Trump got in.

> Mikek

[Lucifer]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:02:16 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
<terrell....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 8:38:50 PM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

>> On 14/4/2019 12:06 AM, Michael Terrell wrote:
>> > On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 10:37:04 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:

>> >> On 13/4/19 6:16 PM, Michael Terrell wrote:
>> >>> We all know that you supported Hillary and her slimy bucket of despicables.
>> >>
>> >> I see you love the "fear and hatred" brand of Koolaid the GOP has been
>> >> selling for the past 40 years.
>> >
>> > Yawn. That's right out of the Liberal's rulebook 'Repeat a lie until it becomes the truth'.
>> >
>> >>> It's sad, really. Those Anti Psychotic drugs were really helping you, before Obamacare took them away from you. I do hope that you do see the light some day. All of that raw, inflamed hatred is bad for your health.
>> >>
>> >> You're a real prize, the best you can do is make up shit and resort to
>> >> ad hominem attacks?
>> >
>> > I was only following your silly lead.
>> >
>> >> You basically went in the toilet when a black man was elected president.
>> >> You've only gotten worse.
>> >
>> > Is that the best lie that you can come up with? He is only partly black, and he was never much of a man. Just the kind that you worship.
>> >
>> >> Keep it up with your diatribes, it only makes you look stupid.
>> >
>> > Continuing to post under the name of a business that you ran into the ground years ago makes you look like a super genius?
>> >
>> > I really don't care what you think. Even though I wasn't on any of the newsgroups, I sent emails to people with information during that time. That included you, although I knew that you would never acknowledge any of them. One was where to find help with a HP scope. I won't waste any more time with you. Just keep channeling Skippy.
>> >
>>
>> Michael, it's nice to see you back around these parts, but this is no
>> way to act, Jeff was helpful, why such an attack. It is generally the
>> libs that do all the attacking. Why do you need to act the same. They
>> are wrong we just need to gently teach them to do better. When they know
>> better they will do better.
>
>
>I received a lot of abuse from him in 2016, and I am tired of being called stupid by him, just because I wouldn't vote for his choice.
>
>I will no longer bother to read or reply to him.

Use the kill file or just ignore him.

[jf...@my-deja.com]

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 6:48:38 PM UTC-7, amdx wrote:
> Not all amplified computer speakers are crap, I have a set made by
> Altec Lansing that consists of a sub woofer and two satellite speakers,
> that does a fine job.
>
> Mikek

The Voice of the Theatre was a great loudspeaker, almost as good as my Klipschorns...

[amdx]

On 4/15/2019 9:12 PM, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
> On 4/15/19 7:38 PM, amdx wrote:
>> OK, I got carried away, but do you agree with any of these
>> accomplishments.
>>
>>                            Mikek
>
> None of them.
>

Now, you, "are just being evil and anally retentive." :-)

Mikek
PS, How come you don't think the countries in NATO should pay their bill?
Aren't you happy that most Americans are doing better in the improved
economy?
Isn't it a good thing that Rocket man is not send up rockets for
further testing?
Do you really think we should just allow illegals to cross the boarder
unchecked?
Are you really against Targeting MS-13?

Ok, no need to answer, with an answer like "None of them" you are just
anti Trump, it no longer matters what you want, or what is right, if
Trump is for it, you are against it.
You lack the grey matter to make your own decision.
Sorry, please rethink how you decide right and wrong, good and bad,
it has nothing to do with who is in office.

Mikek

[amdx]

On 4/15/2019 11:50 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:48:37 -0500, amdx <noj...@knology.net> wrote:
>
>> On 4/15/2019 7:19 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
>>> <terrell....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the thing is useless.
>>>
>>> It still works well as an audio amp for computer sound, using the AUX
>>> input. Sounds a lot better than those so called (crap) "amplified
>>> computer speakers".
>>>
>> Not all amplified computer speakers are crap, I have a set made by
>> Altec Lansing that consists of a sub woofer and two satellite speakers,
>> that does a fine job.
>>
>> Mikek
>
> Altec Lansing is some of the tops in electronics. I have one of their
> commercial power amps.
>
> But I imagine you paid dearly for those speakers.

Somebody did! I bought them at a church sale, cheap, years ago.
OH, and just this weekend I bought a Pristine Sangean ATS-818 radio for
$1 including manual and a wall wart power supply. Easily worth $80 to
$100, $199 whaen it was new.

[Fox's Mercantile]

Apparently you can only parrot Fox News talking points.
Come back when YOU can think for yourself.

[amdx]

None of what I wrote came from Fox News, in fact 70% of the points I
wrote came from a liberal writing the good things Trump has done, he
listed 12 more positive points, but then when on to say he still wants
Trump impeached.
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/09/12/donald-trump-impeachment-welcome-but-hes-done-20-things-right-column/1258575002/
At least this lib can see past his ideological leaning.
Mikek

[peterw...@gmail.com]

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 8:15:27 AM UTC-4, amdx wrote:

> None of what I wrote came from Fox News, in fact 70% of the points I
> wrote came from a liberal writing the good things Trump has done,<<

You really need to read your "Screwtape Letters" (C.S. Lewis)

Evil disguises itself with 'good works' as a mean to ensnare the gullible. That the Orange Toad has the occasional positive impact is an excellent example of this phenomenon, making the absolute fact that it is an absolute abomination just muddy enough to fool its base.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

[amdx]

Well, please educate me, What is the evil that President Trump is
planning to do the the United States of America?

Waiting with great anticipation of your erudite words,
Mikek

[peterw...@gmail.com]

Without going into great detail, the Orange Toad has, effectively, destroyed any faith in the word of anyone in the Executive Branch.

It has appointed a drunken, unqualified fool to the Supreme Court - far worse than Clarence Thomas.

It is appointing unqualified red-litmus judges as fast as it can.

It has appointed its own (highly unqualified) tadpoles to critical Whites House staff positions.

Healthcare
The Military
Education
The Environment

And, it lies without shame or surcease.

If you need more: https://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

[tub...@myshop.com]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 17:47:31 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell

<terrell....@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 8:19:27 PM UTC-4, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 15:44:55 -0700 (PDT), Michael Terrell
>> <terrell....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >the thing is useless.
>>
>> It still works well as an audio amp for computer sound, using the AUX
>> input. Sounds a lot better than those so called (crap) "amplified
>> computer speakers".
>
>This has nothing to do with your original question, it is trolling.

Trolling????
You apparently know nothing about what a troll is.....

But just so you do know:
A troll is someone who comes to an electronics newsgroup and starts an
off topic political discussion. If you look in a mirror, you'll see a
real troll.....

[tub...@myshop.com]

On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 21:11:51 -0500, Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net>
wrote:

>On 4/15/19 7:19 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>> Fucking politics...... Not worth discussing since ALL politicians are
>> crooked liars. Dont matter what party they support.
>
>Which just goes to show you how ignorant you are.

Your opinion and immature elementary school name calling, means nothing
to me. Come back when you grow up, and have something pertinent to the
topic of this newsgroup to say........

[amdx]

On 4/18/2019 12:33 PM, pf...@aol.com wrote:
> Without going into great detail, the Orange Toad has, effectively, destroyed any faith in the word of anyone in the Executive Branch.

You mean like, you can keep your doctor, or this will cut your
healthcare by $2,500?

>
> It has appointed a drunken, unqualified fool to the Supreme Court - far worse than Clarence Thomas.

I can't find anything that doesn't go back 30 years about Kavanaugh's
drinking, and you call him drunken. Hardly unqualified. Certainly not a
fool.

>
> It is appointing unqualified red-litmus judges as fast as it can.

I have to agree it is as fast as he can, but that is very slow because
of democrats stonewalling. Your Red-Litmus line just means he's not
hiring the judges you want to legislate rather than follow the law.

>
> It has appointed its own (highly unqualified) tadpoles to critical Whites House staff positions.

Just more whining from the left.

[Fox's Mercantile]

Which just proves my point.

[bruce2...@gmail.com]

On Sat, 13 Apr 2019 00:10:45 -0500, Fox's Mercantile <jda...@att.net>
wrote:

>On 4/12/19 11:23 PM, tub...@myshop.com wrote:
>> I have an old Realistic (Radio Shack) "Stereo TV Receiver".
>
>You been under a rock for the past 10 years?

Everyone is under a rock. It all depends on where.

[Michael Terrell]

Sigh. Are you really that stupid? Show me the last thread that I started in this group, and prove that it was political. You can't.